Ask yourself, what does Konami have to lose?

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? PBSnipes

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? Dualshockin

halo= multiplat you mean the pc finally got halo2 right when halo 3 is about to come out. Gears of War wont be released on the pc probably until gears of war2 comes out and even then you would need vista, a top notch pc and you would need to pay for Live

GeoW didnt even sell to 30% of the the 360 fanbase, it has sold about 3 million copies btw.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? Carmilla31

????

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? Apocalypse33

btw aint dr 2 multi plat?

[QUOTE="lockjaw333"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerApocalypse33

MGS4 is a system seller. And the fact is MGS fans are hardcore lovers of MGS, they will buy a ps3 just for MGS4 as soon as it comes out.

Xbox owners have shown little interest in MGS games, and I see a port months later not affecting PS3 at all really.

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="moohan"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerMr-XXX300

Are you serious? The reason MGS 2 flopped was because it came out on PS2 first and the Xbox didn't have a ton of systems sold at that point.Sorry to say this guys but as much as I love the MGS franchise it is not a systems seller. It never has been.

[QUOTE="lockjaw333"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerApocalypse33

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? Carmilla31

that is? im serious i dont know which game you are talking about.:|

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="lockjaw333"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerPBSnipes

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? Dualshockin

Halo 3

Gears of War 2

Forza 2

Too Human

Mass Effect

Lost Odyssey

Blue Dragon

Banjo Kazooie 3

PGR 4

I have to sell my 360 due to money issues, so the PS3 will be my only system for awhile. I would love to have any of those games on the PS3.

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? istreakforfood

that is? im serious i dont know which game you are talking about.:|

[QUOTE="Fr3357YL3"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? Dualshockin

Halo 3

Gears of War 2

Forza 2

Too Human

Mass Effect

Lost Odyssey

Blue Dragon

Banjo Kazooie 3

PGR 4

I have to sell my 360 due to money issues, so the PS3 will be my only system for awhile. I would love to have any of those games on the PS3.

hiding behind the pc are we?

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]If Microsoft can pay $50 million for downloadable content, Sony better pay up for the biggest game on their system.PBSnipes

Sony does not negotiate with terrorists.

...in other words, they don't buy exclusives.

PS3 is not losing games, its merely sharing them. Big difference. Why pay for a game your still getting anyway?

There's no reason to PAY for it unless you've got deep pockets and a lot of desperation. I.E., you're M$.

Trenton himself said it, they don't pay for exclusives. Its a real waste of money. That money is better spent making sure the first party games are good.

What dick heads, i mean the PS3 hasn't even been out a full year yet, and Konami is thinking of runing to another console. What a bunch of wimps. And why would i want to by a watered down crapy port to the Xbox 360, this game was made just for the PS3 hardware, you reallly think that a port is going to be any good?

marvelfan

Just like the other multiplat ps3 games? :roll:

What dick heads, i mean the PS3 hasn't even been out a full year yet, and Konami is thinking of runing to another console. What a bunch of wimps. And why would i want to by a watered down crapy port to the Xbox 360, this game was made just for the PS3 hardware, you reallly think that a port is going to be any good?

marvelfan

if u feel that strongly about it buy the ps3 version. problem solved.

Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerApocalypse33

This wont happen, Sony needs all the help they can get.

We could just stop arguing and see what happens.CraigJK

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Lemmings always talk about how their system has the best games. Well, if the games are so good then why are they always trying to steal Sonys games? Fr3357YL3

Halo 3

Gears of War 2

Forza 2

Too Human

Mass Effect

Lost Odyssey

Blue Dragon

Banjo Kazooie 3

PGR 4

I have to sell my 360 due to money issues, so the PS3 will be my only system for awhile. I would love to have any of those games on the PS3.

can u make a list of ps3 games coming out at the about the same time u want over that list?

[QUOTE="Mr-XXX300"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="moohan"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerApocalypse33

Are you serious? The reason MGS 2 flopped was because it came out on PS2 first and the Xbox didn't have a ton of systems sold at that point.Sorry to say this guys but as much as I love the MGS franchise it is not a systems seller. It never has been.

Because the Industry has done a 180, The Playstation is no longer the leading brand and without a decent user base Konami runs the risk of actually losing money. The 360 has the bigger install base already and if you think that PS2 fans have not converted to the 360, think again. I loved the PS2 I will not be buying a PS3 anytime soon. That is one less copy of MGS4 that would have sold if it doesn't come to the 360.

Trenton himself said it, they don't pay for exclusives. Its a real waste of money. That money is better spent making sure the first party games are good. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerSig12047

This wont happen, Sony needs all the help they can get.

hiding behind the pc are we?ParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="lockjaw333"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerApocalypse33

ued get more money out of ur ps3 if u sold it...can u make a list of ps3 games coming out at the about the same time u want over that list?munsoned

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]hiding behind the pc are we?Dualshockin

your making it sound like everyone has a high end pc, vista, and a xbox live account which you would needto run games like gears of war. I doubt you even have a high rig pc to run Gears of War youre just hiding behind it like most people on the sony side

Last time I checked MGS 2 was ported to the Xbox and the world didn't come to an end.

Bread_or_Decide

last time i checked there were 4 times as many ppl with a ps2 compared to the xbox. not that way this time huh?

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]Sony could get pissed and refuse to work with them, and sony is konami's biggest customerlockjaw333

I remember reading a few times that many companies do not trust M$ as trustworthy long term partners. Hollywood was skeptical doing business with M$ for example. I don't know how things are right now, but M$ always tries to force their own way, and if that doesnt work, they will try to tear it down. And as consumers, we are a lot better off is both Sony and M$ stays competeting against each other. Game studios/consumers will get ripped off if one company exercises absolute control. And M$ already is very goodat that role in other areas.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]hiding behind the pc are we?Dualshockin

PC is a completely different market then consoles. Just because Alien Syndrome is coming to the PSP and the Wii you wouldn't say that's not a Wii exclusive beacuse I can buy it for the PSP. Sounds ridiculous doesn't it?

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]hiding behind the pc are we?Dualshockin

So when are Halo3 and Gears of War supposed to be out on PC

Konami will lose credibility. Much like PS fans lost credibility with Capcom when DMC4 went multiplat.

RazMaTaz-1

I'm just curious if Konami and Square lost credibility when the jumped ship to Sony from Nintendo in the first place in regards to Metal Gear and Final Fantasy?

PC is a completely different market then consoles.

Mr-XXX300

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

Konami will lose credibility. Much like PS fans lost credibility with Capcom when DMC4 went multiplat.

SemiMaster

I'm just curious if Konami and Square lost credibility when the jumped ship to Sony from Nintendo in the first place in regards to Metal Gear and Final Fantasy?

They won't lose any credibilty, It's just fanboys that can't face the fact that there systems is not the market leader anymore and 3rd parties have to make money.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

Konami will lose credibility. Much like PS fans lost credibility with Capcom when DMC4 went multiplat.

SemiMaster

I'm just curious if Konami and Square lost credibility when the jumped ship to Sony from Nintendo in the first place in regards to Metal Gear and Final Fantasy?

[QUOTE="Mr-XXX300"]

PC is a completely different market then consoles.

Teufelhuhn

Sorry buy the SW Logic is failed and I just mentioned the reason. PC and Apple are in there own market. Playstation 3,Xbox 360 and Wii are in theirs and then you have DS and PSP. Unless you really would compare a game like Alien Syndrome for the PSP to the Wii version.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]hiding behind the pc are we?ParadiddleFill

your making it sound like everyone has a high end pc, vista, and a xbox live account which you would needto run games like gears of war. I doubt you even have a high rig pc to run Gears of War youre just hiding behind it like most people on the sony side

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]hiding behind the pc are we?Dualshockin

your making it sound like everyone has a high end pc, vista, and a xbox live account which you would needto run games like gears of war. I doubt you even have a high rig pc to run Gears of War youre just hiding behind it like most people on the sony side

thats not an excuse its the truth most people wont be able to play gears of war on there pc's

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]hiding behind the pc are we?LosDaddie

So when are Halo3 and Gears of War supposed to be out on PC

I don't want MGS4 to become Multiplat because most multiplatform games are notorious for sucking on the PS3 horribly.

And I just want you to know that Konami doesn't have the final desicion in if it goes to the 360, they aren't making the game, only publishing it.

CraigJK

theyre paying for it, so unless Kojima wants to pay for the thing himself they have a lot of weight in the situation

Metal Gear was never an exclusive franchise to begin with. So it wouldn't be a surprise at all if it's multiplat. It would be better if it goes to the 360 because more people owns a 360 than the PS3. In the end Konami wins, gamers wins, fanboys loses.

thats not an excuse its the truth most people wont be able to play gears of war on there pc'sParadiddleFill

Why does everyone assume the game will be ported to 360. Why not water down the graphics and sell it to wii users? Everyone here is thinking in the perspective of the US and Europe. How many American made and European madecars are in Japan? Oh that's right, none.360 sales are horrible in Japan, why, it was developed by a U.S. company. The Japanese public will be more inclined to not buy Konami products because they are selling out to the enemy(USA). If they sell to the Wii, no PR problems. zaney

They have money to lose. Porting a game costs money, especially when its been specifically developed for one platform.Teufelhuhn

typically porting only adds 10-20% more to the total. and in this case it would increase the potential market by 200%. i'd say that's a worthwhile investment.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]thats not an excuse its the truth most people wont be able to play gears of war on there pc'sDualshockin

most likely its going to require a high end computer