Assassin's Creed. PS3 vs Xbox 360. Producer explains the differences!!!

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.Mystikef

Man are your reading skills poor.

The higher frame-rate for the 360, which seems to happen in just about EVERY multiplatform game, would give the 360 the edge in power, despite what Sony has been feeding you fanboys.  The PS3 IS NOT keeping up with the processing.

It is obvious that the PS3 and 360 are close in power, but the PS3 has a bottleneck somewhere that is keeping it from reaching the frames-per-second that the 360 is acheiving.

we need more women like her in the videogame industry.Natural_Mystic

Enjoy climbing and fighting with no RUMBLE on the PS3, have fun with that.swanlee

That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.NobuoMusicMaker

hahahaha, ps3 has really shown its power!

Good....the problem is that, with its price tag, the ps3 should perform at least slightly better...Thats what I expect from a system with a bigger price tag.

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.LuvGaming

Actually she didn't say the textures are better on the PS3 she just said there is a slight difference that could mean they are worse

[QUOTE="tree-branch"]For paying 200 more dollars to get a ps3 the multplats should be better on ps3.elcoholic

Nah, you already get a bluray player, wifi, free online, bigger HD, silent and reliable hardware for those $200. 

[QUOTE="tree-branch"]For paying 200 more dollars to get a ps3 the multplats should be better on ps3.LuvGaming

Enjoy climbing and fighting with no RUMBLE on the PS3, have fun with that.swanlee

That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.NobuoMusicMaker

That makes no sense. If that was the case, then why did almost every multiplat title last gen look better on Xbox? 

[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.Anonymous79

Actually he didn't say the textures are better on the PS3 he just said there is a slight difference that could mean they are worse

Um... you mean she!?

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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.kage_53

Man are your reading skills poor.

The higher frame-rate for the 360, which seems to happen in just about EVERY multiplatform game, would give the 360 the edge in power, despite what Sony has been feeding you fanboys.  The PS3 IS NOT keeping up with the processing.

It is obvious that the PS3 and 360 are close in power, but the PS3 has a bottleneck somewhere that is keeping it from reaching the frames-per-second that the 360 is acheiving.

 GPU and CPU.

Do you think you're the forum police or something? I'm not in school and I'm not about to correct my sentences since it's 8 in the morning where I live and I also really do not care to. Btw, you spelled too, to. Learn how to spell correctly. "Im not getting on you to much".LuvGaming

No Im not the forum police and I never said I was.  I was never talking about spelling or anything of the like, I was speaking of sentence structure and to correct me on grammar has nothing to do with this topic.  What I was correcting you on had everything to do with this topic since you were trying make it out that one system would be noticeable diffrence but the other wasn't.  I wasnt trying to be a jerk or anything about spelling or grammar since I think its stupid to correct such stuff over the internet if you understand them, I was just trying to correct you on the point that you were wrong about what she was trying to say.

So overall no hard feelings towards you I was just trying to correct you on your misslead interperpitation of her statments, but like I said it doesnt matter since a few slightly better textures here or there or a 1-2 FPS more wont really do much for the game making it a moot point to even argue over. 

[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]For paying 200 more dollars to get a ps3 the multplats should be better on ps3.ASKLEIPIOS

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[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]For paying 200 more dollars to get a ps3 the multplats should be better on ps3.LuvGaming

  The PS3 has more peak power, but is terribly inefficient.

[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.Anonymous79

Actually he didn't say the textures are better on the PS3 he just said there is a slight difference that could mean they are worse

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[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.Kreean

Actually he didn't say the textures are better on the PS3 he just said there is a slight difference that could mean they are worse

Um... you mean she!?

[QUOTE="LuvGaming"]Do you think you're the forum police or something? I'm not in school and I'm not about to correct my sentences since it's 8 in the morning where I live and I also really do not care to. Btw, you spelled too, to. Learn how to spell correctly. "Im not getting on you to much".justforlotr2004

No Im not the forum police and I never said I was.  I was never talking about spelling or anything of the like, I was speaking of sentence structure and to correct me on grammar has nothing to do with this topic.  What I was correcting you on had everything to do with this topic since you were trying make it out that one system would be noticeable diffrence but the other wasn't.  I wasnt trying to be a jerk or anything about spelling or grammar since I think its stupid to correct such stuff over the internet if you understand them, I was just trying to correct you on the point that you were wrong about what she was trying to say.

So overall no hard feelings towards you I was just trying to correct you on your misslead interperpitation of her statments, but like I said it doesnt matter since a few slightly better textures here or there or a 1-2 FPS more wont really do much for the game making it a moot point to even argue over. 

As for AC, both versions will be exactly the same so I guess we can agree on at least one thing. =)

Why would she bring up the textures on the PS3 and then bring up the fact that the 360 version is currently running at a few extra fps? Makes no sense to diss 1 version and praise another. Anyways, both versions will be the same so w/e.LuvGaming

Tell me, when did she say the PS3 version would have better textures?

THis is what I read: "WIth the PS3, you will see some texture differences."

At this point in time, we have seen nothing from the PS3 that shows advanced or superior texturing.

[QUOTE="LuvGaming"] Why would she bring up the textures on the PS3 and then bring up the fact that the 360 version is currently running at a few extra fps? Makes no sense to diss 1 version and praise another. Anyways, both versions will be the same so w/e.Kestastrophe

Tell me, when did she say the PS3 version would have better textures?

THis is what I read: "WIth the PS3, you will see some texture differences."

At this point in time, we have seen nothing from the PS3 that shows advanced or superior texturing.

That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.NobuoMusicMaker

Lol what the hell. Ohh...I see why your posting. You dont have any games to play on your superior system.  :shock: 

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[QUOTE="LuvGaming"]Do you think you're the forum police or something? I'm not in school and I'm not about to correct my sentences since it's 8 in the morning where I live and I also really do not care to. Btw, you spelled too, to. Learn how to spell correctly. "Im not getting on you to much".LuvGaming

No Im not the forum police and I never said I was. I was never talking about spelling or anything of the like, I was speaking of sentence structure and to correct me on grammar has nothing to do with this topic. What I was correcting you on had everything to do with this topic since you were trying make it out that one system would be noticeable diffrence but the other wasn't. I wasnt trying to be a jerk or anything about spelling or grammar since I think its stupid to correct such stuff over the internet if you understand them, I was just trying to correct you on the point that you were wrong about what she was trying to say.

So overall no hard feelings towards you I was just trying to correct you on your misslead interperpitation of her statments, but like I said it doesnt matter since a few slightly better textures here or there or a 1-2 FPS more wont really do much for the game making it a moot point to even argue over.

As for AC, both versions will be exactly the same so I guess we can agree on at least one thing. =)

Nonono I wasn't talking about YOUR sentence structure, I was talking about your comprehension skills of the sentence structure. lol hard to explain actually, what Im talking about is the fact that shes saying NEITHER will be noticeable from the way says it. She says it at the end of talking about both meaning shes talking about everything in general from what she said above.

If she was to put "With Xbox 360 right now you may see a little bit smoother framerate, maybe a couple more frames per second right now but its so negligible that you wont notice it." Then you would be right. Though she just says "It's so negligible right now that unless you're sitting there looking at them both side by side, you're not going to see any difference." meaning that neither are noticeable because she is generalizing the entire ideal.

On a side note I think your sentence structure and grammar is perfectly fine and I would never correct you on that unless I absolutly couldnt understand what you were saying. I am just correcting you on your wrong assumption.

lol Im just gonna stop now since I kinda sound like a stuckup jerk even though that is not my intention.

justforlotr2004, who really knows what she meant by "slight texture difference". I honestly thougth that she meant that the PS3 could possible have slightly better looking textures due to maybe a higher amount of AF. I mean, she mentioned a pro for the 360 version so I figured she was giving out a pro for the PS3 version as well.LuvGaming

She was giving a pro for both, but she never said that either one would not be noticeable.  You can possibly notice the FPS on the 360 vs PS3 if next to each-other and you can possibly notice the textures on the PS3 vs 360.  What I was saying is that you were making it out to be that the PS3 has got the uperhand with that it will have a noticeable difference where the 360 wont.  So overall I agree though that although I am right about the sentence structure it could be that she did indeed mean the 360 wont be noticeable but you cant just automatically assume that with the way its worded. 

Anyway that doesnt matter right now, what matters is that both console owners will have a good game and everyone is a winner.

"With PLAYSTATION 3, currently, you can see maybe a slight difference in some of the textures"

She might as well have gone out and said it, WORSE TEXTURES:|

"With PLAYSTATION 3, currently, you can see maybe a slight difference in some of the textures"

She might as well have gone out and said it, WORSE TEXTURES:|

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Although that may be true I seriously doubt she would word it like that if so.  She would of said the 360 might have slightly better textures rather than say the PS3 has worse textures since giving a positive is better than giving a negative to the press.  Even though they mean the same thing you would never want to use a negative situation when promoting your product.

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.martin_f

Yeah, its superior in HDMI with 1080p output, standard HDD, standard Wi-fi, and disc capacity isn't it? Psh, get real. It might have a better GPU, but thats all.  

That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game.  The lesser console, PS3 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, 360.NobuoMusicMaker

True.

[QUOTE="martin_f"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.D_Znuhtz

Yeah, its superior in HDMI with 1080p output, standard HDD, standard Wi-fi, and disc capacity isn't it? Psh, get real. It might have a better GPU, but thats all.  

 Better GPU, better gaming CPU, better and more efficient architecture, better online service(Although, PSN is coming along nicely) and thats just the basics.

[QUOTE="martin_f"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.D_Znuhtz

Yeah, its superior in HDMI with 1080p output, standard HDD, standard Wi-fi, and disc capacity isn't it? Psh, get real. It might have a better GPU, but thats all.

Techinqly none of what you just listed important for developing a game to look good except mabye the extra space and thats a big mabye for a lot of developers.  The 1080p and stuff is a very moot argument when it comes to developing games for most companies since they will choose 720p over it since thats the laregest demographic and its more stable.  Oh and the standard HDD does help a bit with being able to have a standard cache for each game but that just helps loading times for the most part.  Though yeah the PS3 does have some nice advantages like that but they dont really push the PS3 forward to much in terms of development.

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[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]For paying 200 more dollars to get a ps3 the multplats should be better on ps3.LuvGaming

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[QUOTE="martin_f"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.Nagidar

Yeah, its superior in HDMI with 1080p output, standard HDD, standard Wi-fi, and disc capacity isn't it? Psh, get real. It might have a better GPU, but thats all.

Better GPU, better gaming CPU, better and more efficient architecture, better online service(Although, PSN is coming along nicely) and thats just the basics.

More reliable hardware too eh? :lol: Better gaming CPU? Wtf? Reeeeally reaching now, aren't ya. The only difference in the architecture is the fact that its similar to PC development, so devs are used to it. 

Better CPU

Free Online

Comparable GPU

Wi-fi connectivity

1080p output

Standard HDD

5x the disc capacity

"and thats just the basics" 

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[QUOTE="martin_f"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.justforlotr2004

Yeah, its superior in HDMI with 1080p output, standard HDD, standard Wi-fi, and disc capacity isn't it? Psh, get real. It might have a better GPU, but thats all.

Techinqly none of what you just listed important for developing a game to look good except mabye the extra space and thats a big mabye for a lot of developers. The 1080p and stuff is a very moot argument when it comes to developing games for most companies since they will choose 720p over it since thats the laregest demographic and its more stable. Oh and the standard HDD does help a bit with being able to have a standard cache for each game but that just helps loading times for the most part. Though yeah the PS3 does have some nice advantages like that but they dont really push the PS3 forward to much in terms of development.

He said "superior in all categories", which is an absolute fallacy. Xenos is probably better than the RSX, but thats all. I've never heard anyone outside of board fanboys say "the Xenon beats teh Cell". Here they'll argue about it all day, like the guy above talking about threads and SPE's like he has any idea what they mean and isn't just parroting something he heard from some other equally uninformed lemming.  

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]

[QUOTE="martin_f"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.D_Znuhtz

Yeah, its superior in HDMI with 1080p output, standard HDD, standard Wi-fi, and disc capacity isn't it? Psh, get real. It might have a better GPU, but thats all.

Better GPU, better gaming CPU, better and more efficient architecture, better online service(Although, PSN is coming along nicely) and thats just the basics.

More reliable hardware too eh? :lol: Better gaming CPU? Wtf? Reeeeally reaching now, aren't ya. The only difference in the architecture is the fact that its similar to PC development, so devs are used to it.

Better CPU

Free Online

Comparable GPU

Wi-fi connectivity

1080p output

Standard HDD

5x the disc capacity

"and thats just the basics"

Although I dont agree with the guy your arguing with your points are also moot like I said above.  Only the Space and HDD will even really help for development, infact 1080p would make it worse for developers since they have to optimise and cut stuff back to make sure the game runs smooth at such a high resolution with not stuttering.  The space allows developers to be relaxed about their coding and the ammount of video/audio they put in which can be a positive but not always needed.  The HDD helps with load times but not really much for development but they still use it.  

The wi-fi, free online (actually worse for developers I belive since they have to pay for servers but cant remember exactly), 1080p all are just extra's that dont help the development at all.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]

[QUOTE="martin_f"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.D_Znuhtz

Yeah, its superior in HDMI with 1080p output, standard HDD, standard Wi-fi, and disc capacity isn't it? Psh, get real. It might have a better GPU, but thats all.

Better GPU, better gaming CPU, better and more efficient architecture, better online service(Although, PSN is coming along nicely) and thats just the basics.

More reliable hardware too eh? :lol: Better gaming CPU? Wtf? Reeeeally reaching now, aren't ya. The only difference in the architecture is the fact that its similar to PC development, so devs are used to it. 

Better CPU

Free Online

Comparable GPU

Wi-fi connectivity

1080p output

Standard HDD

5x the disc capacity

"and thats just the basics" 

CPU: The Xenon has 3 General Purpose Cores, all of which have Branch Prediction, guess what that means? It means the Xenon is better at things like Physics, AI ect. The Cell has ONE General Purpose Processor and none of the SPE's have the features of a full fledged GP Core and all of the SPE's have to transfer through the SPU to write data to the XDR, thats whats called a bottleneck.

Online: Free and lackluster compared to XBL, no way to deny this.

GPU: WRONG! Not comparable at ALL, the Xenos has 48 Unified Pipelines and runs consistantly at 99% efficiency, the RSX can come nowhere near this. Not to metion the Xenos has twice the Triangle fill rate, more Shader Ops per second, uses DX9L, a higher Shader Model and has 10MB eDRAM.

WIFI: Sucks for gaming, don't even mention it.

1080p: Are you insane, the 360 also outputs 1080p.

Standard HDD: Yep, it does, no arguement there(Obviously), but has it helped the PS3 get better games?

5x Capacity: Yep, same as above.

The xbox360 is held back by the PS3, the xbox360 has higher fps, which means they could push up the graphical quality at the expense of the extra fps, but they won't bc the PS3 will lag. themyth01

Not really I think it sorta balances out.  

If the remove the extra textures the PS3 would have the same FPS most likely and if they add the extra textures for the 360 the extra FPS would disappear.  Meaning they both would be exactly equal, well at least in theory. :P

Im not exactly sure how much both different from each other but from what I understand it seems that they could balance it out even perfectly if they wanted to. 

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any multiplat can be better on PS3 in every way possible... ex oblivion

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l1mIt

hmm if its better then why did it score less than the "crappy" 360 version...that is weird

lower standards lemming? a 9.5 now is better than a 9.6 from a YEAR ago... and it was a fact PS3s oblivion had better textures and a farther draw distance...

oblivion is a game thats an example that any port can be better on PS3

How is a 9.5 now better than a 9.6 a year ago I dont get that one sorry. I keep forgetting how passionate you cows are over that one game.

can you say lower standards?

low...er....stand...ards... try it lemming its not to hard

can you say that the ps3 version came out a year later? If the game didn't look better, then Bethesda wouldn't be very good devs would they? O, and by the way, with the sales of Oblivion on PS3 as crappy as they are, dont look forward to Elder Scrolls V on your ps3 anywhere near the 360/PC launch.

ya thats a smart one...bring up sales, where xflop was released a year ahead of PS3...isnt obvious what oblivion would sell more on? :|

even with the ps3's current userbase in consideration, ES4 is selling like poop 

Here is a multiplatform devs opinion about the PS3 and the CELL:

INTERVIEW: Unlocking PS3's Cell Power

or

What makes the PS3's Cell so special? A developer speaks up and tell us

She isn't hot. I'm hot. But I'm just a young girl who plays games. Not make them. :P So she has the upper hand. -shakes fist-hotdaisy18

That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.NobuoMusicMaker

Much like PS2-xbox, but this time the difference is this: 0.0000000000000000000000000000001% 

[QUOTE="The_One_White"][QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="The_One_White"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.LuvGaming

It says that the 360 has the better framerate and i would prefer smoother playing to some terxtures looking different...

the interview doesnt say better textures though...does it?

Dude, textures take such little space, it doesnt even matter, get you head out of your purple clouds. No where do they say that the PS3's textures are better, they just said some slight differences in the textures and if that is any indication to all multiplatformers, they are WORSE.

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[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]For paying 200 more dollars to get a ps3 the multplats should be better on ps3.ASKLEIPIOS

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.The_One_White

It says that the 360 has the better framerate and i would prefer smoother playing to some terxtures looking different... 

How do you know the texures are superior on ps3, she doesn't say that? For all we know, they could be superior on 360.

[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="The_One_White"][QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="The_One_White"]

[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]That's why multiplatform releases are bad for the game. The lesser console, Xbox360 in this case, downgrades the more powerful console, PS3.MrGrimFandango

It says that the 360 has the better framerate and i would prefer smoother playing to some terxtures looking different...

the interview doesnt say better textures though...does it?

Dude, textures take such little space, it doesnt even matter, get you head out of your purple clouds. No where do they say that the PS3's textures are better, they just said some slight differences in the textures and if that is any indication to all multiplatformers, they are WORSE.