At this point is there any reason to own an xbox one?

Reasons: Xbox live, friends and social gaming, multi tasking and multi media functions, exclusives like Gears, Halo, Forza, QB, upcoming exclusives like Scalebound, Recore etc, for those who dont give a shit about PC gaming and already have an established friends base on xbox live from their 360 days (which a lot do), cheaper price point, superior controller.

I love my PS4 too, but im certainly not paying for PS+ just to play games online as i don't believe i should have to pay to play games online on my XB1, yet alone on a system where online play was free no more than a couple of years ago, that and the social aspect of Playstation sucks and PSN is totally unreliable.

Really, this "problem" where QB is being released on the PC as well is such a non issue for me, and if you turn it into one you are an idiot and a cry baby like crap gamer. Honestly if there was ever an example to show how some gamers are whiny little self entitled cry babies this was it! Stop giving us a bad image!

I already said, "If you are strictly a console gamer and don't care about PC gaming" therefore there was no need to point out that they are projected for PC. Also for newcomers what difference does it make whether the game is out or not? If you're new to Xbox or gaming in general then you haven't played those games.

You're upset, but my post honestly wasn't meant to upset you.

If you can read my post without being in defense mode for just one minute and take a look at what I'm saying there is nothing for you to be upset about.

Do I speak for everyone? Nope, but going off everything that has happened this gen, anticipated game polls, games nominated by fans as the best games this gen, and general game sales my points are pretty solid.

Can someone still buy all the games MS has announced on xbox one? Absolutely. My point, however, was that for someone who doesn't already own a xbox one is there a reason to buy one when PC offers the same game in a better form.

I acknowledge that PC gaming isn't for everyone and have always argued for console over PC for some of the very reasons you mention here, however, just like consoles PC's aren't stagnate. Many of the arguments I've used in the past to justify console over PC just aren't relevant anymore. Consoles are more like PC than ever before (as well as many of the issues I've argued for console for) and PC has become more reliable than they have been in the past.

My strongest and last standing argument for console over PC was it's exclusives. If consoles lost that one card, I would have no real argument or justification for preferring consoles over PC as exclusives in general are far and in between this generation.

Good post.

It seems honest and I can accept your rationality, thing is, you already own an xbox one so it's not really a thought process you need to deal with. If I already owned a xbox one I'd be less of an issue but I'd still be kind of upset that I could have invested in a PC and got an overall better experience.

As for playing with buddies, I don't mind that much I hate being forced to pay for online gaming (PSN or XBL) so PC having that free is already an advantage to me in that department. I criticized Sony on that point this gen and MS for years. PS3 had it perfect for online and being free IMO but now PC completely owns the online argument outside of Wii Eww.

But I bet going into my local gamestop and asking anyone buying the X1 why not get the better experience by building a gaming PC? Then laying out truthful costs and what knowledge will be needed for upkeep, most will still go with the console. Its just a fact in our current society. Nobody wants to do work or fix its to play a video game and I know of only one friend with his PC hooked to his living room HDTV. We can argue the pluses and minuses all day, but the truth is the bulk of the US population are lazy and want convenience. Consoles provide that.

Wow. I feel like someone took that a bit personally

Beefy? It doesn't need to be beefy. The console isn't. Anyway if you don't have a gaming PC and don't plan on getting one then get the console. However it makes no sense for anyone else to buy the console.

@LJS9502_basic: Already replied to Casharmy about this.

Someone'll surely find some reason to own that over a Wii U at the very least, like they found why they would pick up an Original XBOX over a GameCube at the time.

No good reason. Convenience over PC, and not running into issues sure sure. I'm with ya on that. And people will always have preferences, like the controller and what their friends have.

But in this case, seeing how I literally just want to play Scalebound and Quantum break (and hopefully these either release on other PC platforms, or the windows store drastically improves), and you can play all multiplats better on the Ps4 there isn't any reason for me to get one. And I have other issues with the Xbone besides games, like needing online for basic things, (unacceptable) and lacking features 360 had.

And I vastly prefer consoles to PC, but as far as cost of a gaming PC goes, people are greatly overestimating those costs. Still throwing those $1000+ figures around. There will be a gpu that beats the Ps4 for around $100 from AMD, when Polaris launches. You can buy a gpu that beats the Xbox one for a bit over $100 right now, if you can't wait a few months.

I don't game much on PC either, but I need a PC for other things so buying a gpu for a third of the price of a console is still worth it to play what I do. I'm looking forward to upgrading when Zen hits.

Of course.

If you are a console gamer and want to play games like Halo, Quantum Break, Gears, Forza, Fable, Rare games and most multiplats, Xbox One is a worth platform to have.

If someone wants to game on console they have no other choice but to purchase an Xbox to play these games. There is not exceptions. I don't see the complication. :|

Love the fact that according to cows everyone has a high end gaming PC, and the general public care for PC gaming and the whole gaming world works the way SW dicates. The general public dont care for higher res etc they care for ease of use and what there friends are playing on and multiplats which is why the PS4 is doing so well.

Cows insecurity is immense,

Good for you.

I came across this thread while weighing up PS4 vs Xbox One. I'm still undecided at the moment; though I like the idea of the One's backwards compatibility, it just seems a bit redundant unless I get rid of the 360 completely. Whereas the PS4 has a few exclusives I might be interested in. Not to mention I got rid of my previous Sony systems - big mistake to be honest - and would like to pick up some of the older games as digital downloads.

Anyway, one of the arguments in the thread made me register - the argument that people should just build/buy a gaming rig rather than a console. I somewhat disagree and think it purely depends on personal circumstances and no, I don't mean finances. I won't deny that they may find improved performance and/or graphics but the overall package is just less appealing to me than a console. The space required, the upkeep/maintenance, the temperamentality of PCs at times all being valid reasons in my opinion. The screen size is another issue entirely. I know two people with a maintained gaming rig, one has his set up with what I believe is a 22" monitor in the corner of a living area and I'm sure it runs amazingly well but I can't imagine enjoying any hack and slash game for example on a screen that small. The other uses his with a 42" HDTV. Great, perfect "console experience" in my opinion. The downside now coming back to the space required; having a tower sitting around in a living area just isn't aesthetically pleasing. At least to me. I should note that his is in his bedroom so it's not a problem for him as he loves technology. Whereas, I'm the type of person that doesn't even like having a TV in the bedroom.

I also find it a bit antisocial to head into a corner of the home to game, leaving your girlfriend/family/kids/whoever to sit on their own. When I game, my girlfriend is usually next to me. We're doing our own thing, yeah, but still interacting with each other. Not to mention it's simple for her to pick up a spare controller and join in if I'm playing something she's into. The only games I play on a PC (laptop in my case for the most part) are strategy games and the like. Games designed for PC, that work best with a keyboard and mouse.

Anyway, I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion of anything discussed in the topic nor do I even think that's possible judging by some replies lol, just pointing out that people don't need to be "stupid" or "poor" to not want a gaming rig in their home.

The fact that some of you'll in here are telling someone they are wrong cause they rather game on a console and play games on an Xbox rather than a PC is just retarded. Who are you'll to tell someone their preferences are wrong lol. They'll always be a reason to buy a console over a high end gaming rig and pretty much both the PS4 and Xbox is a low end gaming console compared to a high end gaming PC cause none of these consoles can play games on ultra settings, so to sit there and question is there a reason to buy a xbox, of course it is. For consoles gamers the reasons are Quantum Break, Gears, Halo, Forza, Scalebound, Cup head, etc etc etc. Those are games that can only be played on 1 home gaming console and that's the xbox but if you into gaming PC then you have another option to play the game just like if you have a PS4 yoy have options for SF, No man's sky, final fantasy and etc.

Just named two games that are huge on the system that aren't on PC. Think you're reading what you want to read ;P

The games you mentioned will only be available through the Windows Store.. Which means making an Xbox Live account on a Windows 10 device running DirectX12.. You'll have Achievements, a unified friends list, party chat, and online play with Xbox Live players..

As far as Microsoft is concerned, you just joined the Xbox Live family and are actively supporting their ecosystem.. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter if you bought that game via the Windows Store on PC or the Windows Store on Xbox One.. In either case, you just supported an XB1/PC exclusive which gives Microsoft more and more leverage with developers to make more XB1/PC exclusives..

If you want to buy an Xbox One in a addition to your PC, great!.. With cross-buy, cross-save, and etc, your games and content will follow you from device to device.. If you want to buy a PS4 or Wii U in addition to your PC, great!.. As long as you're interested in buying games like Quantum Break, Gears 4, Scalebound, and etc for your PC, you're still supporting XB1/PC exclusives.. And if you're a console gamer who only games on consoles, the Xbox One is still there for you complete with XB1/PC exclusives that can't be played on PS4..

It's a complete win/win..

Is that your goal?

Sounds good for Xbox ... More people who can buy the game is potentially more sales for the games ... More sales for the games is more profit for the xbox team and hopefully more games for xbox one

Xbox One has better games then PS4

Xbox One and Xbox Live Gold is the better overall value

Nothing to play on ps4 ... 99% of ps4 exclusives is one N done toss it in the pile of games ... and sony ain't made a good online game yet

Sure cow, same thing cows did all last gen and still doing it. Keep up the bad work loser

Yes, you do fail. You're claiming there is no reason to own an X1 because they share a lot of games with PC. Isn't that the same thing as saying all you cows have a gaming rig? I have a gaming rig yet I'm going to most likely get the X1 version. Just seems like a game I'd rather play on my console.

Bottom line cow, there are plenty of reasons for someone to buy an X1. Just because you moronic cows don't think so doesn't make it a fact. Something you and your kind need to learn

Based on reviews alone, games Sony developed/had a hand in/published:

Socom Series? Motorstorm? Bloodborn? Resistance? Warhawk? Little Big Planet? Wipeout? Fat Princess? Killzone? Starhawk? Gran Turismo?

Xbox 1 has a fraction of the games PS4 has, a fraction of the exclusives, and a significantly lower number of higher scoring games. The Last AAA Exclusive XBox1 had was 2 years ago. Don't start making up crap because your console of choice has just become redundant overnight to anyone who has a GPU valued $100 or more (ie: any half decent gamer). A home PC can outperform an xbox 1 for less than the cost of an xbox1 in upgrades - and then outperform the xbox1 on it's own 'exclusives'.

Because you are a lemming - and lemmings actually enjoy having the worst version of multiplats.

Wrong you dim whited cow. I play a majority of my games on PC but this is a game I feel I'd rather play on the X1. Being a lem or whatever has NO bearing in my decision. Don't lump me in with the you and your fellow idiots.

@Bigboi500: Right. I don't think the average person owns a computer meant for more than Microsoft Office.

Uh huh.. Enjoy having capable pc, and one outdated pay per month 'pc' which gets a couple games a year.

Just a note for future reference - I have played 1 PS4 game in the last year, that is Bloodborn, and it wasn't even on a PS4 I own. By comparison I have 120 steam games.

Were you always this hostile, or are you just frustrated at everyone mentioning how XBox is dead?

> "I'm the hostile one?"
>"You dim witted cow"

Yup, you are.

Well when you start out with insults then yes he would be the hostile one. Still playing the victim kid? You having a hard time with your reading comprehension?

Him calling you a lemming is hostile now?

I thought calling him a dimwit is far more hostile than just naming him a fanboy, oh and look you call him an idiot as well.

God you're a broken record, only person playing the victim here is you little mama (fucking Full House and its shit Elvis gags)

Sure it is. He called me a lem as an insult not to identify where my so called allegiance is.

Not the point but I'm starting to see a pattern here. You have reading comprehension issues.

Right you don't need to bold everything love, I can understand what you're referring too by your daft comment alone.

Also lol, you call people cows all the time for so much as not liking MS' offerings with A LOT of malice behind it.

Him calling you a lem isn't hostile tito, just him stating that he thinks you're a fanboy.

You're the one who insulted him by calling him an idiot alongside a cow and guess what, every time you mention cows you add insults beforehand so we know that cow alone is an insult from you.

Keep failing.

Yeah actually I do. You have reading comprehension issues and I just want to make sure you understand. Learn how to comprehend and I won't have to bold it for you.

Yep I call people cows all the time and it's meant as an insult just like what the other guy said. Thanks for proving my point kiddo.

Yeah it was but coming from someone with massive reading comprehension problems I didn't expect you to get it.

Keep trying to play the victim. You're very good at it

LOL love the rage in here. Wish I had some popcorn. Meltdown of the massive variety.

Door stop.

Paper weight.

Blunt weapon.

Step stool.

Tire chock.

I am sure that there are other uses.

20M is far from dead - yes, but going forward, which is the context I am speaking in, is pretty much dead for the Xbox 1. It's bleeding exclusives as Microsoft shifts it's focus from the Xbox1 to PC in effort to not fall flat on their asses in the face of Sony.

Here, you may recognize this:

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Giving him the benefit of doubt, lets assume he created his account at the minimum age of 13 for TOS. This puts his birth date at 1990, making him some 25 Years old. His behavior shows him in his teens, I wonder what age he thinks I am for him to be calling me a kid? I think he should take a breather from the SW metagame for a while..

@bloodlust_101 said:

@kingtito said:

@bloodlust_101 said:

Were you always this hostile, or are you just frustrated at everyone mentioning how XBox is dead?

I'm the hostile one? Aren't you the idiot insulting me and my choice because I'd rather play 1 game on the X1 than my PC? Umm hahah oh the hypocrisy.

I could care less what you think about the X1 but 20M is far from dead kid.

20M is far from dead - yes, but going forward, which is the context I am speaking in, is pretty much dead for the Xbox 1. It's bleeding exclusives as Microsoft shifts it's focus from the Xbox1 to PC in effort to not fall flat on their asses in the face of Sony.

Here, you may recognize this:

Gallery

@naughtyottsel said:

Right you don't need to bold everything love, I can understand what you're referring too by your daft comment alone.

Also lol, you call people cows all the time for so much as not liking MS' offerings with A LOT of malice behind it.

Him calling you a lem isn't hostile tito, just him stating that he thinks you're a fanboy.

You're the one who insulted him by calling him an idiot alongside a cow and guess what, every time you mention cows you add insults beforehand so we know that cow alone is an insult from you.

Keep failing.

Giving him the benefit of doubt, lets assume he created his account at the minimum age of 13 for TOS. This puts his birth date at 1990, making him some 25 Years old. His behavior shows him in his teens, I wonder what age he thinks I am for him to be calling me a kid? I think he should take a breather from the SW metagame for a while..

Sure from a fanboys perspective in SWs but NOT in reality. Just because the X1 is going to share some games with PC doesn't mean the general public is going to flock to the PC. Lot's of people prefer to play on consoles for various reasons but only someone like you would think otherwise. Funny how that works isn't it.

Right kid, you responded to ME simply because I said I'm going to play QB on the X1 rather than my gaming PC. I think you're younger because kids often then other people are idiots or wrong because they don't think the way you they do. That would be YOU in a nutshell.

Sorry little guy but I'd bet I have kids about your age or close to it.

The metagame is dead guy and actually has nothing to do with what I've said. You're just a butthurt fanboy upset because I'd rather play QB on my X1. Why? That is the real question. Why doesn't it bother you sooooo much that you just felt the need to respond to my post? Could it be because you're butthurt? Yeah I'd say so.

You have kids my age? A sad realization that you may be over 50. But then I see the way you write, the words you use, and the lacking train of thought and realize you probably didn't meet the 13 year old requirement on Gamespot.

Enjoy your dead console comprised of the worst versions of multiplat titles.

ONLY if you are really into , i repeat , REALLY INTO ( caps to emphasize ) some of its exclusives. For no other reason.

Weak hardware // Sales lackster which leads to subpar support from 3rd parties // less quantity of games overall than PS4 // 95% of the time multiplatforms playing worse // Future is looking pale // Some of its great exclusives find their way on PC sooner than later ( Tomb / Quantum for example ) // lacking some of the most defining titles on their respective genres like Street Fighter 5 for fighting games ...

X1 is for a reason far second this generation.

Not quite kid.

Spoken like a true idiot fanboy, upset because I chose to play QB on my X1 when it comes out. You're a very sad individual. It must really suck to be so narrow minded.

@bloodlust_101 said:

@kingtito said:

@bloodlust_101 said:

Were you always this hostile, or are you just frustrated at everyone mentioning how XBox is dead?

I'm the hostile one? Aren't you the idiot insulting me and my choice because I'd rather play 1 game on the X1 than my PC? Umm hahah oh the hypocrisy.

I could care less what you think about the X1 but 20M is far from dead kid.

20M is far from dead - yes, but going forward, which is the context I am speaking in, is pretty much dead for the Xbox 1. It's bleeding exclusives as Microsoft shifts it's focus from the Xbox1 to PC in effort to not fall flat on their asses in the face of Sony.

Here, you may recognize this:

Gallery

@naughtyottsel said:

Right you don't need to bold everything love, I can understand what you're referring too by your daft comment alone.

Also lol, you call people cows all the time for so much as not liking MS' offerings with A LOT of malice behind it.

Him calling you a lem isn't hostile tito, just him stating that he thinks you're a fanboy.

You're the one who insulted him by calling him an idiot alongside a cow and guess what, every time you mention cows you add insults beforehand so we know that cow alone is an insult from you.

Keep failing.

Giving him the benefit of doubt, lets assume he created his account at the minimum age of 13 for TOS. This puts his birth date at 1990, making him some 25 Years old. His behavior shows him in his teens, I wonder what age he thinks I am for him to be calling me a kid? I think he should take a breather from the SW metagame for a while..

cause your behavior is much better right?

Are you in yours 40s still frequenting a game forum just to single out one group?

Oh good lord that's pathetic.

@naughtyottsel: dude, take a break