Average GPU is 4 times more powerfull than the Ps3.

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#1 loco145
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By the info from this site:

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats

Is easy to determine that the average Nvidia GPU doing folding is about 3.9 more powerfull than the Ps3.

13,324 GPUs give 1466 Tflops.

40,286 Ps3s give 1136 Tflops.

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yea us pc gamers always seem to gett the best stuff. :)
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#3 WillieBeamish
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yea us pc gamers always seem to gett the best stuff. :)blackdreamhunk

What about those of us who have PC's AND Consoles? We put hermits to shame. :P

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#4 Cedmln
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I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.
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#5 0rbs
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I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.Cedmln

I agree. All that power, and you still can't get ahold of mgs4 and littlebigplanet, i don't play my ps3 for stats, i play it for games.

:P

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#6 loco145
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I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.Cedmln
G80 GPUs and UP, we are talking from 2006s GPUs here...
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PC is the full package. Best controls (KB/Mouse), best online, best graphics, largest library, variety, highest # of good exclusives, everything.

This isn't a surprise in the least. GPU's are very cheap nowadays and even the older ones tend to outperform the consoles on a massive scale.

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I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.Cedmln

If a console was upgradable it would be a PC...The point is Cows go on and on about the stupid cell processor thinking it is the greatest thing ever when an Intel or AMD processor can outperform it day in and day out.

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PC is the full package. Best controls (KB/Mouse), best online, best graphics, largest library, variety, everything.

This isn't a surprise in the least. GPU's are very cheap nowadays and even the older ones tend to outperform the consoles on a massive scale.

Puckhog04

Alot of what your stating is opinion, personally I prefer the controller over a keyboard and mouse even if it is slower, also consoles online play has started to develop a very vast community that I would argue is even greater then the PCs free online community.

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That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year.
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.APOLLOCJD

If a console was upgradable it would be a PC...The point is Cows go on and on about the stupid cell processor thinking it is the greatest thing ever when an Intel or AMD processor can outperform it day in and day out.

The cell processor is the real gimmick.. People keep on going on about the Wii's motion controls being gimmicky.. But some games they run brilliant on and have changed the way we controled games before... The Cell on the other hand has done nothing, and other then overhyped preview screens, it is neck and neck with the supposedly inferior hardware of the Xbox360.

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By the info from this site:

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats

Is easy to determine that the average Nvidia GPU doing folding is about 3.9 more powerfull than the Ps3.

13,324 GPUs give 1466 Tflops.

40,286 Ps3s give 1136 Tflops.

loco145

Consoles dont require this type of raw power to run heavy games.So far every game coming on both the next gen consoles are pretty good.They mostly require optimization and they are good to go.Besides if they followed your advice and replaced that "So-called" weak GPU with your requirements.The manufacturing cost would be A LOT !

Their aim is NOT TO ACHIEVE HIGH FRAME RATES but to make the game look as good as the PC version.Which so far they are achieving.

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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.0rbs

I agree. All that power, and you still can't get ahold of mgs4 and littlebigplanet, i don't play my ps3 for stats, i play it for games.

:P

Agreed. Sheep are constantly made fun of for touting sales, why aren't hermits for touting these stupid statistics? Especially when so few developers actually take advantage of them?
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That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year. espoac
huh funny I don't see sins of the solar empire on console, how spore, how starcraft2, wait maybe daiblo, how guild wars. OH snap PC is the best LOL
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

PC is the full package. Best controls (KB/Mouse), best online, best graphics, largest library, variety, everything.

This isn't a surprise in the least. GPU's are very cheap nowadays and even the older ones tend to outperform the consoles on a massive scale.

APOLLOCJD

Alot of what your stating is opinion, personally I prefer the controller over a keyboard and mouse even if it is slower, also consoles online play has started to develop a very vast community that I would argue is even greater then the PCs free online community.

That's fine. Of course i'm stating opinion. What else would i be stating? I don't have facts to support it...but largest library and best graphics is Fact. Also, KB/Mouse = Faster play and incredibly Precise so, for me, hands down better than anything. Plus I'm very good. :) Best online...well, i guess that's opinion. Frankly, if you have ever played any Steam game online on PC you'd realize the community for PC is so much better in terms of support, people, and amounts of servers. Personally i don't see how anyone can consider PC online inferior to any online but w/e, to each his own.

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The Average GPU is probably a Intel XMA or whatever they're called.

You should of said the Average NVidia GPU owned by people who use Folding @ Home.

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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

PC is the full package. Best controls (KB/Mouse), best online, best graphics, largest library, variety, everything.

This isn't a surprise in the least. GPU's are very cheap nowadays and even the older ones tend to outperform the consoles on a massive scale.

APOLLOCJD

Alot of what your stating is opinion, personally I prefer the controller over a keyboard and mouse even if it is slower, also consoles online play has started to develop a very vast community that I would argue is even greater then the PCs free online community.

Greater than free pc community? What? Try and give one reason why.

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#18 loco145
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The Average GPU is probably a Intel XMA or whatever they're called.

You should of said the Average NVidia GPU owned by people who use Folding @ Home.

angelkimne
I did said that :o
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#19 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="0rbs"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.espoac

I agree. All that power, and you still can't get ahold of mgs4 and littlebigplanet, i don't play my ps3 for stats, i play it for games.

:P

Agreed. Sheep are constantly made fun of for touting sales, why aren't hermits for touting these stupid statistics? Especially when so few developers actually take advantage of them?

ok hot shot mmo's are the top seeling ever!!! the best ones are on pc!!! heck even sims sell bettter lol

Oh and the pc is the best selling plat form ever, pc has all genres lol oh snap!!!

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#20 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

The Average GPU is probably a Intel XMA or whatever they're called.

You should of said the Average NVidia GPU owned by people who use Folding @ Home.

loco145
I did said that :o

You said "Average GPU'....
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#21 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

The Average GPU is probably a Intel XMA or whatever they're called.

You should of said the Average NVidia GPU owned by people who use Folding @ Home.

angelkimne

I did said that :o

You said "Average GPU'....

The thread titles have limited text space.... Read the OP.

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[QUOTE="espoac"]That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year. blackdreamhunk
huh funny I don't see sins of the solar empire on console, how spore, how starcraft2, wait maybe daiblo, how guild wars. OH snap PC is the best LOL

Sins of the Solar Empire is good, okay. Spore flopped, Starcraft 2 isn't out yet and probably isn't coming for a while and Diablo and Guild Wars are old. As I said, as far as quality software goes, the PC has no advantage over consoles.
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#23 loco145
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="espoac"]That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year. espoac
huh funny I don't see sins of the solar empire on console, how spore, how starcraft2, wait maybe daiblo, how guild wars. OH snap PC is the best LOL

Sins of the Solar Empire is good, okay. Spore flopped, Starcraft 2 isn't out yet and probably isn't coming for a while and Diablo and Guild Wars are old. As I said, as far as quality software goes, the PC has no advantage over consoles.

Crysis Warhead is being relead tomorrow....
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#24 angelkimne
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The thread titles have limited text space.... Read the OP.

loco145
Fair enough.
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="espoac"]That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year. espoac
huh funny I don't see sins of the solar empire on console, how spore, how starcraft2, wait maybe daiblo, how guild wars. OH snap PC is the best LOL

Sins of the Solar Empire is good, okay. Spore flopped, Starcraft 2 isn't out yet and probably isn't coming for a while and Diablo and Guild Wars are old. As I said, as far as quality software goes, the PC has no advantage over consoles.

sins of the solar is a new genre so what kind of genre have consoles even made none oh snap lol
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I have a gaming PC and a 360 and for games I'll take my 360 over the crap that's been hitting the PC
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[QUOTE="espoac"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="espoac"]That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year. loco145
huh funny I don't see sins of the solar empire on console, how spore, how starcraft2, wait maybe daiblo, how guild wars. OH snap PC is the best LOL

Sins of the Solar Empire is good, okay. Spore flopped, Starcraft 2 isn't out yet and probably isn't coming for a while and Diablo and Guild Wars are old. As I said, as far as quality software goes, the PC has no advantage over consoles.

Crysis Warhead is being relead tomorrow....

So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?
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#28 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="espoac"]That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year. espoac
huh funny I don't see sins of the solar empire on console, how spore, how starcraft2, wait maybe daiblo, how guild wars. OH snap PC is the best LOL

Sins of the Solar Empire is good, okay. Spore flopped, Starcraft 2 isn't out yet and probably isn't coming for a while and Diablo and Guild Wars are old. As I said, as far as quality software goes, the PC has no advantage over consoles.

No matter how you spin it, the PC still has the most highly rated AAA's and AA's of any 2 consoles combined.

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I have a gaming PC and a 360 and for games I'll take my 360 over the crap that's been hitting the PCFFXIII360
yea rehashed game play on console the very reason capcom wants to muilit plat. They need something new and fresh lol.

hey check this something that console can't do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVsT4D2_VTI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AOyLcvyEEo&feature=related

hey look console don't have space games lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi8n6uN091E

yea console are soooo great!!!

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[QUOTE="espoac"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="espoac"]That's great and all but what PC games are really taking advantage of that? Crysis, maybe. All this bragging about graphical capabilities is pointless. As far as quality games go the PC certainly hasn't had an advantage over consoles in the last year. blackdreamhunk
huh funny I don't see sins of the solar empire on console, how spore, how starcraft2, wait maybe daiblo, how guild wars. OH snap PC is the best LOL

Sins of the Solar Empire is good, okay. Spore flopped, Starcraft 2 isn't out yet and probably isn't coming for a while and Diablo and Guild Wars are old. As I said, as far as quality software goes, the PC has no advantage over consoles.

sins of the solar is a new genre so what kind of genre have consoles even made none oh snap lol

You're going off-topic...When did I ever say anything about consoles creating new genres?
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Their aim is NOT TO ACHIEVE HIGH FRAME RATES but to make the game look as good as the PC version.Which so far they are achieving.

lesner87

kinda an interesting statement given that all console ports look way better on a pc and run at higher frame rates...

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OPERATIVE SYSTEM...nvidia gpu? what?
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[QUOTE="FFXIII360"]I have a gaming PC and a 360 and for games I'll take my 360 over the crap that's been hitting the PCblackdreamhunk

yea rehashed game play on console the very reason capcom wants to muilit plat. They need something new and fresh lol.

hey check this something that console can't do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVsT4D2_VTI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AOyLcvyEEo&feature=related

hey look console don't have space games lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi8n6uN091E

yea console are soooo great!!!

Crysis MP sucked and the game was fun until the end

If Crysis is your main reason for PC gaming that's pretty sad

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So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?espoac
Crysis Warhead is a full standalone game... This show's how much you know...
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="FFXIII360"]I have a gaming PC and a 360 and for games I'll take my 360 over the crap that's been hitting the PCFFXIII360

yea rehashed game play on console the very reason capcom wants to muilit plat. They need something new and fresh lol.

hey check this something that console can't do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVsT4D2_VTI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AOyLcvyEEo&feature=related

hey look console don't have space games lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi8n6uN091E

yea console are soooo great!!!

holo was reashed game so was UT3 wonder why?

Crysis MP sucked and the game was fun until the end

If Crysis is your main reason for PC gaming that's pretty sad

here is what happens when game devs spend too many years working on the console

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54666

have taken a good look at capcom sales from japan to the west. lol

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[QUOTE="espoac"]So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?loco145
Crysis Warhead is a full standalone game... This show's how much you know...

:| It's a standalone expansion pack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_Warhead
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="espoac"]So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?espoac
Crysis Warhead is a full standalone game... This show's how much you know...

:| It's a standalone expansion pack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_Warhead

Even ID soft ware is regreting they made rage on the console. They are now fucusing on their wolfstin game instead because they know consoles are old. lol
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#38 xscrapzx
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I just don't understand why people have this argument in here. I mean a pc you can upgrade and a console you can not. I dont understand why people even bother arguing about this anymore. Its really beating a dead horse to the extent of not even worth commenting about.

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#39 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="espoac"]So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?espoac
Crysis Warhead is a full standalone game... This show's how much you know...

:| It's a standalone expansion pack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_Warhead

Stand Alone Expansion pack? Lol, I guess Resistance 2 is an stand alone expansion pack also...
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Since when was folding@home a good measure of performance in games?


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[QUOTE="espoac"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="espoac"]So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?blackdreamhunk
Crysis Warhead is a full standalone game... This show's how much you know...

:| It's a standalone expansion pack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_Warhead

Even ID soft ware is regreting they made rage on the console. They are now fucusing on their wolfstin game instead because they know consoles are old. lol

Are you serious? You're joking, right?
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[QUOTE="espoac"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="espoac"]So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?blackdreamhunk
Crysis Warhead is a full standalone game... This show's how much you know...

:| It's a standalone expansion pack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_Warhead

Even ID soft ware is regreting they made rage on the console. They are now fucusing on their wolfstin game instead because they know consoles are old. lol

Has nothing to do with being "old" :|. Its the fact that PC's are unlimted as far as implemented and designing a game. Consoles are limited because they are not upgradable and they come as they are.

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[QUOTE="espoac"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="espoac"]So, let me get this straight... You think an expansion pack makes the PC's lineup better than 360 or PS3's?blackdreamhunk
Crysis Warhead is a full standalone game... This show's how much you know...

:| It's a standalone expansion pack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_Warhead

Even ID soft ware is regreting they made rage on the console. They are now fucusing on their wolfstin game instead because they know consoles are old. lol

Has nothing to do with being "old" :|. Its the fact that PC's are unlimted as far as implemented and designing a game. Consoles are limited because they are not upgradable and they come as they are.

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#44 loco145
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Since when was folding@home a good measure of performance in games?
Teufelhuhn
Gaming perfomance? How about this. A low end 8600gt can max out CoD4 at 1280 x 800 while the Ps3 have to render it at the very low resolution of 1024 x 600 with Mid settings...
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#45 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Since when was folding@home a good measure of performance in games?
loco145
Gaming perfomance? How about this. A low end 8600gt can max out CoD4 at 1280 x 800 while the Ps3 have to render it at the very low resolution of 1024 x 600 with Mid settings...



Okay. And what does folding have to do with this?
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#46 blackdreamhunk
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check out this game dev had to say about the consoles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVsT4D2_VTI

just keep watching and he will say it.

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I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.Cedmln

The point is, the PS3 isn't "future proof."
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#48 blackdreamhunk
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hey lets look at what pc gamers are ready for, are console even ready yet a nope

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4557935.ece

This not done on a console is it! ;) oh snap!

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#49 hongkingkong
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[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I don't understand your point. If Consoles were upgradable thise argument would be completely useless.loco145
G80 GPUs and UP, we are talking from 2006s GPUs here...

Isn't PS3's GPU from 2005 :P pathetic

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#50 -DrRobotnik-
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PC is the full package. Best controls (KB/Mouse), best online, best graphics, largest library, variety, highest # of good exclusives, everything.

This isn't a surprise in the least. GPU's are very cheap nowadays and even the older ones tend to outperform the consoles on a massive scale.

Puckhog04

You say that, but its actually the controls that put me off PC gaming. Im aware im missing out on a great libray, but when it comes to anything other than RTS i hate KB/M.