Battlefield 3 console multiplayer limited by hardware and networks +Setting

XMNR: EA and DICE finally began pulling back the curtain on Battlefield 3 this week and even more details concerning the multiplayer on the PS3 and Xbox 360 have just come out.

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, painted the first dreary picture of a battle being waged in recent memory, with the White House itself being the nerve center of an enemy occupation. Upcoming games like Homefront, which depicts a Korean invasion Red Dawn ****are going there as well. Crysis 2, albeit a much more fictionalized alien invasion will feature a war torn New York City. It's not much of a stretch to figure that DICE would bring the fight to US as well

inb4 PC Gamer whine fests.

Didn't BF2 Armored Fury already have maps on US soil?lowe0

Would you really wnt 64 players on a console?

Yeah the game spans US and more. That is great IMO, although I really dont care where it is, as long as the maps are well done :P. BF3 :)

Didn't BF2 already have that highway map? BC2 also has maps in Alaska.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/frontlinesfuelofwar/index.html Frontlines: Fuel of War That game is 50 players online and released by fairly unknown developer. IM calling bs.hellnojustno

MAG had 256 and Resistance had 64. So consoles can definetly handle a lot of players online. Maybee DICE feels 24 is the right amount for consoles

[QUOTE="hellnojustno"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/frontlinesfuelofwar/index.html Frontlines: Fuel of War That game is 50 players online and released by fairly unknown developer. IM calling bs.Funconsole

It's because of bandwith caps instilled by Sony and MS. 24 players is the absolute max they can have with all the Frostbite features and whatnot. Frontlines has none of that.

What's with every war based game taking place in the US? I guess WiC must feel like a trend setter at this point.

u can blow up walls on frontline big deal.hellnojustno

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="hellnojustno"]u can blow up walls on frontline big deal.hellnojustno

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="hellnojustno"]u can blow up walls on frontline big deal.hellnojustno

I can't wait for the next round of consoles simply because I'm sick of pc games being downsized because of their limitations. Game design and ambition took a huge step backwards with this gen. Just try to imagine Arma 2 on consoles and you see what it's such a big deal for these types of games to go multiplatform. Hardware is so cheap right now I know that the big 3 could make an affordable yet powerful console. I guess MS and Sony just need to make back all the billions they lost when they launched. As far as I know they are still in the hole. The original Xbox lost MS 4 billion bucks so I guess they learned their lesson on console longevity.

[QUOTE="hellnojustno"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/frontlinesfuelofwar/index.html Frontlines: Fuel of War That game is 50 players online and released by fairly unknown developer. IM calling bs.Funconsole

That's very ignorant^ and you wonder why majority of PC gamers hate console gamers.

LINK

I can't wait for the next round of consoles simply because I'm sick of pc games being downsized because of their limitations. Game design and ambition took a huge step backwards with this gen. Just try to imagine Arma 2 on consoles and you see what it's such a big deal for these types of games to go multiplatform. Hardware is so cheap right now I know that the big 3 could make an affordable yet powerful console. I guess MS and Sony just need to make back all the billions they lost when they launched. As far as I know they are still in the hole. The original Xbox lost MS 4 billion bucks so I guess they learned their lesson on console longevity.

bachilders

Their it is. I knew PC gamers would come in here complaining like always.

[QUOTE="bachilders"]

I can't wait for the next round of consoles simply because I'm sick of pc games being downsized because of their limitations. Game design and ambition took a huge step backwards with this gen. Just try to imagine Arma 2 on consoles and you see what it's such a big deal for these types of games to go multiplatform. Hardware is so cheap right now I know that the big 3 could make an affordable yet powerful console. I guess MS and Sony just need to make back all the billions they lost when they launched. As far as I know they are still in the hole. The original Xbox lost MS 4 billion bucks so I guess they learned their lesson on console longevity.

XboximusPrime

Their it is. I knew PC gamers would come in here complaining like always.

Thanks for adding onto my point.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="bachilders"]

I can't wait for the next round of consoles simply because I'm sick of pc games being downsized because of their limitations. Game design and ambition took a huge step backwards with this gen. Just try to imagine Arma 2 on consoles and you see what it's such a big deal for these types of games to go multiplatform. Hardware is so cheap right now I know that the big 3 could make an affordable yet powerful console. I guess MS and Sony just need to make back all the billions they lost when they launched. As far as I know they are still in the hole. The original Xbox lost MS 4 billion bucks so I guess they learned their lesson on console longevity.

Jebus213

Their it is. I knew PC gamers would come in here complaining like always.

Thanks to adding onto my point.

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

The solution is easy:

Consoles need dedicated servers if they are to match the player limit in the PC version.

It remains to be seen if Sony or MS would allow something like that.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Their it is. I knew PC gamers would come in here complaining like always.

XboximusPrime

Thanks to adding onto my point.

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

If consoles didn't water down games so badly we wouldn't be complaining.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Their it is. I knew PC gamers would come in here complaining like always.

XboximusPrime

Thanks to adding onto my point.

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Thanks to adding onto my point.

Jebus213

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

If consoles didn't water down games so badly we wouldn't be complaining.

lol, your not helping your case by proving my point.

The solution is easy:

Consoles need dedicated servers if they are to match the player limit in the PC version.

It remains to be seen if Sony or MS would allow something like that.

The_Capitalist

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

XboximusPrime

If consoles didn't water down games so badly we wouldn't be complaining.

lol, your not helping your case by proving my point.

Nah, its the other way around. Its your fault that you're complaining about somebody else complaining.

I hope they can pull off 32, 24 just doesn't seem enough on maps built for 64.-RocBoys9489-

I think the maps will be scaled like in BF2. Imaginary "artillery will kill everything" lines do a lot.

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

The solution is easy:

Consoles need dedicated servers if they are to match the player limit in the PC version.

It remains to be seen if Sony or MS would allow something like that.

-RocBoys9489-

People are already complaining about the maximum players count. I can see in the future compromises being made if the hate gets to a certain degree. While i don't like any recent battlefield games, i would love for the PC to get some love after all these years.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="hellnojustno"] the houses dont even break apart realistically on bad company 2. red faction guerilla is only game with decent destruction.lowe0

That's because the damage wasn't modeled to affect everything.

Try this if you want something like that: http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=970&lim=20

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"] Crysis. DragonfireXZ95

That's because the damage wasn't modeled to affect everything.

Try this if you want something like that: http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=970&lim=20

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Crysis' destruction was actually a disappointment to me. Try using C4 on anything more substantial than sheet metal or palm trees - it does about as much damage as, say, harsh language. You can knock down a guard tower with a rocket launcher, but it won't make a dent in a concrete wall.lowe0

That's because the damage wasn't modeled to affect everything.

Try this if you want something like that: http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=970&lim=20

inb4 PC Gamer whine fests.

XboximusPrime

What in that article was there to whine about?

All I read that even mentioned the PC was:

"Console gamers were disappointed to learn that while the PC version of Battlefield 3 supports 64 players, the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions will only support 24 players according to details revealed from retail sites."

and:

"While definitely not official, DICE's Johan Andersson recommends a Window 7 PC with a 64-bit processor and a video card that supports DX11. However, the Frostbite 2.0 engine is being built to scale based on the hardware."

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

That's because the damage wasn't modeled to affect everything.

Try this if you want something like that: http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=970&lim=20

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

inb4 PC Gamer whine fests.

Raymundo_Manuel

What in that article was there to whine about?

All I read that even mentioned the PC was:

"Console gamers were disappointed to learn that while the PC version of Battlefield 3 supports 64 players, the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions will only support 24 players according to details revealed from retail sites."

and:

"While definitely not official, DICE's Johan Andersson recommends a Window 7 PC with a 64-bit processor and a video card that supports DX11. However, the Frostbite 2.0 engine is being built to scale based on the hardware."

I meant people coming into the thread whinning about how consoles are running there games. and it happened already.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Their it is. I knew PC gamers would come in here complaining like always.

XboximusPrime

Thanks to adding onto my point.

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

Battlefield 3 PC is good for gaming. PC gamers not willing to see our beloved series go down without a fight is good for gaming. Our attitude towards this has helped the likes of BF3 and Homefront, hell even Black Ops become significantly better games on PC than they would have otherwise.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Thanks to adding onto my point.

FGMPR

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

Battlefield 3 PC is good for gaming. PC gamers not willing to see our beloved series go down without a fight is good for gaming. Our attitude towards this has helped the likes of BF3 and Homefront, hell even Black Ops become significantly better games on PC than they would have otherwise.

you mean rainbow 6 which is arguably better and more popular since it was supposedly consolized?

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

XboximusPrime

Battlefield 3 PC is good for gaming. PC gamers not willing to see our beloved series go down without a fight is good for gaming. Our attitude towards this has helped the likes of BF3 and Homefront, hell even Black Ops become significantly better games on PC than they would have otherwise.

you mean rainbow 6 which is arguably better and more popular since it was supposedly consolized?

Yes I mean R6. Don't tell me it was "supposedly" consoled. It's ****ing heart was ripped out, stomped on, and then set on fire.

And what has popularity got to do with anything? Is CoD really the best MP experience on consoles?, Is Farmville the greatest game in the world?. R6 was a popular, high selling game on PC that's now sold on 3 platforms and has been turned into something accessible for even the biggest gimps out there.

Please, go on steam, at least play R6 3, and try and tell me that the game has changed for the better.