Battlefield 3 console multiplayer limited by hardware and networks +Setting

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

If consoles didn't water down games so badly we wouldn't be complaining.

Jebus213

lol, your not helping your case by proving my point.

Nah, its the other way around. Its your fault that you're complaining about somebody else complaining.

Oh man...My head...:?

I'm gonna go lay down.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="FGMPR"] If we stopped complaining about PC gaming series being ruined by consoles time and time again, Battlefield 3 would have been 24/32 players for us, too. It's easy to sit there and tell us stop complaining when your a part of the lowest common denominator. You're not the one who had to watch classic PC games like Ghost Recon, Rainbow 6, Deus Ex, Battlefield (between 2-3) etc become simplified, less ambitious and regressive sequels of a game they were supposed to be improving on.

Battlefield 3 PC is good for gaming. PC gamers not willing to see our beloved series go down without a fight is good for gaming. Our attitude towards this has helped the likes of BF3 and Homefront, hell even Black Ops become significantly better games on PC than they would have otherwise.

FGMPR

you mean rainbow 6 which is arguably better and more popular since it was supposedly consolized?

Yes I mean R6. Don't tell me it was "supposedly" consoled. It's ****ing heart was ripped out, stomped on, and then set on fire.

And what had popularitygot to do with anything? Is CoD really the best MP experience on consoles?, Is Farmville the greatest game in the world?. R6 was a popular, high selling game on PC that's now sold on 3 platforms and has been turned into something accessible for even the biggest gimps out there.

Please, go on steam, at least play R6 3, and try and tell me that the game has changed for the better.

R6 on XBOX 1 and Vegas on the HD consoles were great, It hink your just jaded.

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

you mean rainbow 6 which is arguably better and more popular since it was supposedly consolized?

XboximusPrime

Yes I mean R6. Don't tell me it was "supposedly" consoled. It's ****ing heart was ripped out, stomped on, and then set on fire.

And what had popularitygot to do with anything? Is CoD really the best MP experience on consoles?, Is Farmville the greatest game in the world?. R6 was a popular, high selling game on PC that's now sold on 3 platforms and has been turned into something accessible for even the biggest gimps out there.

Please, go on steam, at least play R6 3, and try and tell me that the game has changed for the better.

R6 on XBOX 1 and Vegas on the HD consoles were great, It hink your just jaded.

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

you mean rainbow 6 which is arguably better and more popular since it was supposedly consolized?

XboximusPrime

Yes I mean R6. Don't tell me it was "supposedly" consoled. It's ****ing heart was ripped out, stomped on, and then set on fire.

And what had popularitygot to do with anything? Is CoD really the best MP experience on consoles?, Is Farmville the greatest game in the world?. R6 was a popular, high selling game on PC that's now sold on 3 platforms and has been turned into something accessible for even the biggest gimps out there.

Please, go on steam, at least play R6 3, and try and tell me that the game has changed for the better.

R6 on XBOX 1 and Vegas on the HD consoles were great, It hink your just jaded.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

Yes I mean R6. Don't tell me it was "supposedly" consoled. It's ****ing heart was ripped out, stomped on, and then set on fire.

And what had popularitygot to do with anything? Is CoD really the best MP experience on consoles?, Is Farmville the greatest game in the world?. R6 was a popular, high selling game on PC that's now sold on 3 platforms and has been turned into something accessible for even the biggest gimps out there.

Please, go on steam, at least play R6 3, and try and tell me that the game has changed for the better.

FGMPR

R6 on XBOX 1 and Vegas on the HD consoles were great, It hink your just jaded.

whatever dude, im just tired of hearing about it like you guys have it so bad.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

Yes I mean R6. Don't tell me it was "supposedly" consoled. It's ****ing heart was ripped out, stomped on, and then set on fire.

And what had popularitygot to do with anything? Is CoD really the best MP experience on consoles?, Is Farmville the greatest game in the world?. R6 was a popular, high selling game on PC that's now sold on 3 platforms and has been turned into something accessible for even the biggest gimps out there.

Please, go on steam, at least play R6 3, and try and tell me that the game has changed for the better.

FGMPR

R6 on XBOX 1 and Vegas on the HD consoles were great, It hink your just jaded.

whatever dude, im just tired of hearing about it like you guys have it so bad.

[QUOTE="FGMPR"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

R6 on XBOX 1 and Vegas on the HD consoles were great, It hink your just jaded.

XboximusPrime

whatever dude, im just tired of hearing about it like you guys have it so bad.

But you got to understand what your ssaying... the game is completly different... it's just another common FPS, before it was unique.

I mean, you PC gamers get better graphics, MMOs, Steam (which is arguably the best thing ever), the best way to play FPS's adn RTS's, free online play, Blizzard games, and HD resolutions that would make a console gamers head spin. So im sorry if I dont see why you guys have it so bad.

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="hellnojustno"]u can blow up walls on frontline big deal.hellnojustno

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="FGMPR"] Do you know what the difference between my argument and your's is? I've actually played all the games we're discussing here, which means I'm basing my posts on more than picking a fight with users of other systems. Bebi_vegeta

whatever dude, im just tired of hearing about it like you guys have it so bad.

But you got to understand what your ssaying... the game is completly different... it's just another common FPS, before it was unique.

Im sure the game will still be good though. Im sorry if it wasnt to you like it once was, but you guys get alot of good stuff we console gamers dont get. You should appreciate those.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

whatever dude, im just tired of hearing about it like you guys have it so bad.

XboximusPrime

But you got to understand what your ssaying... the game is completly different... it's just another common FPS, before it was unique.

Im sure the game will still be good though. Im sorry if it wasnt to you like it once was, but you guys get alot of good stuff we console gamers dont get. You should appreciate those.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

But you got to understand what your ssaying... the game is completly different... it's just another common FPS, before it was unique.

Iantheone

Im sure the game will still be good though. Im sorry if it wasnt to you like it once was, but you guys get alot of good stuff we console gamers dont get. You should appreciate those.

I dont know dude. All im saying is you shouldnt all be so jaded about this. Im trying to be as understanding as I can now. I know i wasnt before, but really its just sounding a bit petty in the grand scheme of things. Life will go on, chances are youll all still buy this game, and chances are youll enjoy it. Unless the game is bad, in which case itll be bad on all paltforms.

Wait, wait, I just found out the PC version of this game will support 64 players online. So what are we complaining about again? why is 64 players a bad thing?

Wait, wait, I just found out the PC version of this game will support 64 players online. So what are we complaining about again? why is 64 players a bad thing?

XboximusPrime

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Wait, wait, I just found out the PC version of this game will support 64 players online. So what are we complaining about again? why is 64 players a bad thing?

Iantheone

So, this is just a way for you guys to go "Hur look at what my thing can do that yours cant, therefore we are better then you"? thats what your making it sound like. In which case I walk away and call you a elitist fool. unless thats not what your getting at?

Why are people using MAG, Resistance 2 and Frontlines, those games have toned down graphics, little to no destruction, no advanced physics, not very good lighting, etc.

They aren't even that technically impressive while Bad Company 2 is and Battlefield 3 is said to outdo what Bad Company 2 did, seeing how the game even has maps in New York City there will be a limit.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

But you got to understand what your ssaying... the game is completly different... it's just another common FPS, before it was unique.

Iantheone

Im sure the game will still be good though. Im sorry if it wasnt to you like it once was, but you guys get alot of good stuff we console gamers dont get. You should appreciate those.

I'm not buying it if its stuck at 24.... They can compromise on some things if they have to... If I buy a battlefield game... I want it to feel like a battlefield...not... run for 3 minutes then either get a kill or a death.

And I'm not paying 800 bucks to just get started on a PC so I can play it.

i dont know why pc gamers would complain it seems like they will be treating the pc and console versions differently anyways....and i dont really care as a proper BF game should be superior on the pc anyways. Obviously bigger maps and jets and 64 players and destruction wouldnt be that great on consoles..campzor

I think its just PC gamers thinking there better then everyone else again.

[QUOTE="hellnojustno"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/frontlinesfuelofwar/index.html Frontlines: Fuel of War That game is 50 players online and released by fairly unknown developer. IM calling bs.15strong

MAG had 256 and Resistance had 64. So consoles can definetly handle a lot of players online. Maybee DICE feels 24 is the right amount for consoles

The solution is easy:

Consoles need dedicated servers if they are to match the player limit in the PC version.

It remains to be seen if Sony or MS would allow something like that.

The_Capitalist

[QUOTE="campzor"]i dont know why pc gamers would complain it seems like they will be treating the pc and console versions differently anyways....and i dont really care as a proper BF game should be superior on the pc anyways. Obviously bigger maps and jets and 64 players and destruction wouldnt be that great on consoles..XboximusPrime

I think its just PC gamers thinking there better then everyone else again.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

Wait, wait, I just found out the PC version of this game will support 64 players online. So what are we complaining about again? why is 64 players a bad thing?

XboximusPrime

So, this is just a way for you guys to go "Hur look at what my thing can do that yours cant, therefore we are better then you"? thats what your making it sound like. In which case I walk away and call you a elitist fool. unless thats not what your getting at?

[QUOTE="hellnojustno"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/frontlinesfuelofwar/index.html Frontlines: Fuel of War That game is 50 players online and released by fairly unknown developer. IM calling bs.Funconsole

MAG proves you can have over 200 players, but everything else graphically and technically aren't even there.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]i dont know why pc gamers would complain it seems like they will be treating the pc and console versions differently anyways....and i dont really care as a proper BF game should be superior on the pc anyways. Obviously bigger maps and jets and 64 players and destruction wouldnt be that great on consoles..spookykid143

I think its just PC gamers thinking there better then everyone else again.

Which is BS actualy.

[QUOTE="campzor"]i dont know why pc gamers would complain it seems like they will be treating the pc and console versions differently anyways....and i dont really care as a proper BF game should be superior on the pc anyways. Obviously bigger maps and jets and 64 players and destruction wouldnt be that great on consoles..XboximusPrime

I think its just PC gamers thinking there better then everyone else again.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]i dont know why pc gamers would complain it seems like they will be treating the pc and console versions differently anyways....and i dont really care as a proper BF game should be superior on the pc anyways. Obviously bigger maps and jets and 64 players and destruction wouldnt be that great on consoles..SAGE_OF_FIRE

I think its just PC gamers thinking there better then everyone else again.

sir! :evil:That is absolutely 100 percent correct :P, but It did end up being that now didnt it? This ended being about PC Gamer elitism adn that they are being treated less because the console version is trying to be just as good as their version, like it usualy is with these threads.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Why bother? I already finished the game.lowe0

The solution is easy:

Consoles need dedicated servers if they are to match the player limit in the PC version.

It remains to be seen if Sony or MS would allow something like that.

I bet this is because EA can only deal with 20 snipers, they don't want to here about people whine about 50 snipers on every map

i call these limitations blessings in disguise

i call these limitations blessings in disguise

Harisemo

i call this butthurt

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

i call these limitations blessings in disguise

Firebird-5

i call this butthurt

why are you butthurt?

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

i call these limitations blessings in disguise

Harisemo

i call this butthurt

why are you butthurt?

because i was born into a race where reading comprehension seems to be a rare skill

i call these limitations blessings in disguise

Harisemo

hahahaha I call it Battlefield 1/3 on console, Battlefield 3 on PC. I think it's time to face facts and understand that gaming on an enclosed propriety box with 5 year old hardware has it's limit's. BF3 PC shatters those limit's and has left console only players gagging for a better way. That better way is called PC gaming.

Sorry.

because i was born into a race where reading comprehension seems to be a rare skill

Firebird-5

ok but you're butthurt for non gaming reasons. I would advise you express your butthurt-ness in OT.

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

i call these limitations blessings in disguise

FGMPR

I would assume that by your standards Battlefield Bad Company is a defintion of Battlefield 1/3 and Battlefield 2 and 3 are the "real deal" than I would gladly take Battlefield 1/3

[QUOTE="FGMPR"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

i call these limitations blessings in disguise

Harisemo

I would assume that by your standards Battlefield Bad Company is a defintion of Battlefield 1/3 and Battlefield 2 and 3 are the "real deal" than I would gladly take Battlefield 1/3

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="FGMPR"] hahahahah I call it Battlefield 1/3 on console, Battlefield 3 on PC. ferret-gamer

I would assume that by your standards Battlefield Bad Company is a defintion of Battlefield 1/3 and Battlefield 2 and 3 are the "real deal" than I would gladly take Battlefield 1/3

because imo Battlefield 1/3 is better and more fun. BF2 was crap

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

I would assume that by your standards Battlefield Bad Company is a defintion of Battlefield 1/3 and Battlefield 2 and 3 are the "real deal" than I would gladly take Battlefield 1/3

Harisemo

because imo Battlefield 1/3 is better and more fun. BF2 was crap

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] why?FGMPR

because imo Battlefield 1/3 is better and more fun. BF2 was crap

no problem here mate.

Edit: you edited your previous post and said consoles are limited and I agree with that and like i said these limitations regarding BF are blessings in disguise for me. As for PC gaming being so superior, if I saw it that way I would gladly sell my consoles, all its gamesand my hdtv and buy a decent gaming rig

[QUOTE="FGMPR"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

because imo Battlefield 1/3 is better and more fun. BF2 was crap

Harisemo

no problem here mate.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Thanks to adding onto my point.

FGMPR

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

Battlefield 3 PC is good for gaming. PC gamers not willing to see our beloved series go down without a fight is good for gaming. Our attitude towards this has helped the likes of BF3 and Homefront, hell even Black Ops become significantly better games on PC than they would have otherwise.

unlike the consoles not all PCs are alike, Im guessing your one of those elites who can afford those super expensive PCs that cost more than most people can afford. The irony is that you dream of anambitious PC game that won't even play on 98% of the PCs out in the market.

360 and PS3 are powerful machines, they are better or on par with most of the PCs in the market.

[QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="hellnojustno"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/frontlinesfuelofwar/index.html Frontlines: Fuel of War That game is 50 players online and released by fairly unknown developer. IM calling bs.mattuk69

yeah. propably so that PC fanboys can feel special.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="hellnojustno"] the houses dont even break apart realistically on bad company 2. red faction guerilla is only game with decent destruction.lowe0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwT8XM0AUPM

[QUOTE="FGMPR"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

look, if PC gamers would stop complaining about their game being downsized because of the mean ol consoles, then i wouldnt have reason to bring it up.

Khanbhai0

Battlefield 3 PC is good for gaming. PC gamers not willing to see our beloved series go down without a fight is good for gaming. Our attitude towards this has helped the likes of BF3 and Homefront, hell even Black Ops become significantly better games on PC than they would have otherwise.

unlike the consoles not all PCs are alike, Im guessing your one of those elites who can afford those super expensive PCs that cost more than most people can afford. The irony is that you dream of anambitious PC game that won't even play on 98% of the PCs out in the market.

360 and PS3 are powerful machines, they are better or on par with most of the PCs in the market.

I'm no "elite" my friend, I'm a broke full time student who proably put's more money into gaming than I should. I just deal with facts, and that fact is, is that consoles are running 5/6 year old hardware and just cannot compete with even mid-level PC hardware these days. Battlefield 3 is vista/win 7 only because EA/DICE know that most PC gamers have moved on from XP, just like most of them own appropriate hardware. It's hard not to be a PC gamer and not own hardware that eclipsis the consoles, because console equilvilant hardware is insanely cheap these days.