Battlefield 3 Unveiling at GDC 2011

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#101 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

not interested if its like BF2. want moar BFBC

Sandvichman
The console versions should be like BC while leaving the PC version like BF2, that way everyone wins.

Except console players who would also want a bf2 experience.

Even if true, I hope it's possible for that to happen.
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#102 mitu123
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

doubt it. Name one console game with 64 players online in a single match where there are multiple jets flying in the sky, many people flying and manning helicopters, driving jetskis, jeeps, tanks. Console hardware just isnt up to it.

Infinite_Access

console part was a joke

my point was If BF3 will have the scale of BF2 then why making BF3 there are stillmanypeople playing BF 2

Frontlines: Fuels of War. No one plays it anymore but it could do it I believe. Warhawk on PS3 (launch title)

MAG has 264 spaced out on pretty large maps.. ground vehicles. AI controlled Air vehicles.

It could happen.. just keep the graphics a little bit down.. and itll be fine.

Frontlines is 50 players and has dedicated servers. EA's servers are crap.XD

Warhawk is not a launch title, came out in 2007, PS3 was in 2006, and had 32 players.

Reistance 2 had 60 players.

MAG is 256.

It can happen, but there's some changes to be made, otherwise I agree with you.

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#103 lowe0
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Console gamers are not worthy of the same content that the PC users get.

Remmib
I'd love to see your argument for this. Please prove the relative worth of a console gamer vs. a PC gamer.
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#104 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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This thread is full of elitests. 64 players can be done on consoles.. ps3 has proven this.. (with a launch game no doubt Warhawk)

Console gamers should get everything PC gamers get... I don't care how "worthy" you think you are.

My 60 bucks is worth the same as yours.

(((Ofcourse the graphics can be dumbed down a bit but everyone should get the same content)))

Infinite_Access

Technical limitations (primarily the bandwidth one) is only half the reason to worry. The other half is the perceived limitations of console users by publishers. They don't think you can handle even something as simple as changing and creating squads.

BF2 was released in 2005. There have been three console Battlefields since. None of them with the features and functionality you claim consoles can easily pull off. If they finally do with BF3 I'd be enormously surprised.

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#105 inggrish
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I will shut up for now about consoles dumbing down the BF3 pc experience, as we havn't seen anything about it yet. However, If Battlefield 3 ends up with a single game player cap less than 64, consoles will be to blame

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#106 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

This thread is full of elitests. 64 players can be done on consoles.. ps3 has proven this.. (with a launch game no doubt Warhawk)

Console gamers should get everything PC gamers get... I don't care how "worthy" you think you are.

My 60 bucks is worth the same as yours.

(((Ofcourse the graphics can be dumbed down a bit but everyone should get the same content)))

McStrongfast

Technical limitations (primarily the bandwidth one) is only half the reason to worry. The other half is the perceived limitations of console users by publishers. They don't think you can handle even something as simple as changing and creating squads.

BF2 was released in 2005. There have been three console Battlefields since. None of them with the features and functionality you claim consoles can easily pull off. If they finally do with BF3 I'd be enormously surprised.

Demize99, also known as the lead guy in charge of the game, has said several times that they could put more then 32 players on the console versions. The reason for the low player count is a design choice, nobody would want to play a bc2 map with 64 players,. i would be a cluster. Most things bf2 did, can be done on a console.
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#107 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

This thread is full of elitests. 64 players can be done on consoles.. ps3 has proven this.. (with a launch game no doubt Warhawk)

Console gamers should get everything PC gamers get... I don't care how "worthy" you think you are.

My 60 bucks is worth the same as yours.

(((Ofcourse the graphics can be dumbed down a bit but everyone should get the same content)))

Remmib

Howaboutno.

Console gamers are to blame for the dumbing down of almost every single franchise I have ever loved, due to devs having to cater to the lowest common IQ denominator.

Console gamers are not worthy of the same content that the PC users get.

Hail the master race

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#108 Ondoval
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I think that 64 players at 20 fps in consoles can be fine, as usual.

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#109 RawDeal_basic
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[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

2011 Battle of the 3

-Killzone 3

-Modern Warfare 3

-Battlefield 3

-Uncharted 3

-Gears of War 3

-Resistance 3

Fusiondonut

To bad Hardcore Battlefield fans don't care about those **** console centric games, most of them even never heard of them. They just want an epic BF experience just like BF2 and 2142. But that's to much asked in todays market with crap ports, linear crap games an console limitations.

I'll take Uncharted 2, MGS4, and Mario Galaxy 2 over any of your precious pc games that have come out over the last 10 years.

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#110 Ondoval
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I'll take Uncharted 2, MGS4, and Mario Galaxy 2 over any of your precious pc games that have come out over the last 10 years.

RawDeal_basic

I bought MGS 4 and Uncharted 2. I started both, but was unable to finish any of them. The plot is great, but I was't appealed by the gameplay mechanics.

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Multiplayer game of the year 2011 easy.
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#112 psn8214
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Demize99, also known as the lead guy in charge of the game, has said several times that they could put more then 32 players on the console versions.Sandvichman

Then why didn't they? In my experience playing Bad Company 2 on PS3 and PC, I find the action much more focused and tight on PC - the extra eight really goes a long way towards ramping up the action for everyone. It's a noticeable improvement going from console to PC.

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#113 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Demize99, also known as the lead guy in charge of the game, has said several times that they could put more then 32 players on the console versions.psn8214

Then why didn't they? In my experience playing Bad Company 2 on PS3 and PC, I find the action much more focused and tight on PC - the extra eight really goes a long way towards ramping up the action for everyone. It's a noticeable improvement going from console to PC.

Port valdez is already a cluster with 24, let alone 32, you dont want 3 times that many players. Its a design choice. I mean, imagine trying to play rush with 64. The maps were never designed to have more then 32, it would just be too many.
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#114 EnergyAbsorber
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Finally the TRUE sequel to BF2.

BF3 is going to own souls..

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#115 psn8214
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Port valdez is already a cluster with 24, let alone 32, you dont want 3 times that many players. Its a design choice. I mean, imagine trying to play rush with 64. The maps were never designed to have more then 32, it would just be too many. Sandvichman

Oh, I know that. I was referring to the lack of 32 on consoles. I think anything more than 32 players on ANY of the Bad Company 2 maps would be a major cluster, you're absolutely right, especially playing Rush and Vietnam.

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#116 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

2011 Battle of the 3

-Killzone 3

-Modern Warfare 3

-Battlefield 3

-Uncharted 3

-Gears of War 3

-Resistance 3

Fusiondonut

To bad Hardcore Battlefield fans don't care about those **** console centric games, most of them even never heard of them. They just want an epic BF experience just like BF2 and 2142. But that's to much asked in todays market with crap ports, linear crap games an console limitations.

Yeh, we're just so above those filthy console games. No enjoyment to be had in those titles, not hardcore enough.
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#117 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Demize99, also known as the lead guy in charge of the game, has said several times that they could put more then 32 players on the console versions.Sandvichman

Then why didn't they? In my experience playing Bad Company 2 on PS3 and PC, I find the action much more focused and tight on PC - the extra eight really goes a long way towards ramping up the action for everyone. It's a noticeable improvement going from console to PC.

Port valdez is already a cluster with 24, let alone 32, you dont want 3 times that many players. Its a design choice. I mean, imagine trying to play rush with 64. The maps were never designed to have more then 32, it would just be too many.

i didn't like to play on 64 player servers even in BF2. it was too much.

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#118 inggrish
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Then why didn't they? In my experience playing Bad Company 2 on PS3 and PC, I find the action much more focused and tight on PC - the extra eight really goes a long way towards ramping up the action for everyone. It's a noticeable improvement going from console to PC.

groowagon

Port valdez is already a cluster with 24, let alone 32, you dont want 3 times that many players. Its a design choice. I mean, imagine trying to play rush with 64. The maps were never designed to have more then 32, it would just be too many.

i didn't like to play on 64 player servers even in BF2. it was too much.

really? I find so long as the maps are large and well designed, its a brilliant experience to be in 64 player matches

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#119 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Fusiondonut"]

[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

2011 Battle of the 3

-Killzone 3

-Modern Warfare 3

-Battlefield 3

-Uncharted 3

-Gears of War 3

-Resistance 3

RawDeal_basic

To bad Hardcore Battlefield fans don't care about those **** console centric games, most of them even never heard of them. They just want an epic BF experience just like BF2 and 2142. But that's to much asked in todays market with crap ports, linear crap games an console limitations.

I'll take Uncharted 2, MGS4, and Mario Galaxy 2 over any of your precious pc games that have come out over the last 10 years.

I love those games, but no Crysis and STALKER?
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#120 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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[QUOTE="McStrongfast"]

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

This thread is full of elitests. 64 players can be done on consoles.. ps3 has proven this.. (with a launch game no doubt Warhawk)

Console gamers should get everything PC gamers get... I don't care how "worthy" you think you are.

My 60 bucks is worth the same as yours.

(((Ofcourse the graphics can be dumbed down a bit but everyone should get the same content)))

Sandvichman

Technical limitations (primarily the bandwidth one) is only half the reason to worry. The other half is the perceived limitations of console users by publishers. They don't think you can handle even something as simple as changing and creating squads.

BF2 was released in 2005. There have been three console Battlefields since. None of them with the features and functionality you claim consoles can easily pull off. If they finally do with BF3 I'd be enormously surprised.

Demize99, also known as the lead guy in charge of the game, has said several times that they could put more then 32 players on the console versions. The reason for the low player count is a design choice, nobody would want to play a bc2 map with 64 players,. i would be a cluster. Most things bf2 did, can be done on a console.

Do you have a source for that?

I have him saying they're bandwidth capped on consoles.

For Battlefield it's bandwidth; we are bandwidth capped on the consoles. For PC, I'd like to get back to big scale 64 player.Alan Kertz

Nobody would want 64 players on the small, narrow BC2 Rush maps. That's why you accommodate for the higher player count by making the maps larger and more open.

As I was saying, if BF2 could be done on consoles then why hasn't it been? Third time wasn't the charm.

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#121 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

This thread is full of elitests. 64 players can be done on consoles.. ps3 has proven this.. (with a launch game no doubt Warhawk)

Console gamers should get everything PC gamers get... I don't care how "worthy" you think you are.

My 60 bucks is worth the same as yours.

(((Ofcourse the graphics can be dumbed down a bit but everyone should get the same content)))

Sandvichman

Howaboutno.

Console gamers are to blame for the dumbing down of almost every single franchise I have ever loved, due to devs having to cater to the lowest common IQ denominator.

Console gamers are not worthy of the same content that the PC users get.

Hail the master race

Hail

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[spoiler] It's a joke [/spoiler]

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#122 Heil68
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Hope it's good.
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#123 deangallop
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Yet it's neither funny or accurate.

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#125 Remmib
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Yet it's neither funny or accurate.

deangallop

Apparently it hit a little too close to home.:lol:

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#126 deangallop
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[QUOTE="deangallop"]

Yet it's neither funny or accurate.

Remmib

Apparently it hit a little too close to home.:lol:

You keep thinking that ;)

None of the points are true other than auto-aim (which isnt really a big deal), so it fails as an insult.

and it fails as a joke because it's not funny.

Therefor it's neither funny or accurate.