Best Car Models: Gran Turismo 5: P, Forza 2, or PGR 4 (Poll) (56k)

Yeah, cuz lemmings can soo easily know whats going with development of GT5 :roll:

Good thing you are damage controlling. a Car at 50MPH can cause rediculous amount of havok. www.wreckedexotics.com , have a look at the site and storys, some cars crash at 50mph and have devestating damage. That Forza Saleen video, that car is easily going what? 80mph, and a bumper barely went flying off? LMFAO.

waits for the *but but teh GT5 dont hav deh damage :cry: * Sorry, i dont even care about GT5 to be honest. I more of a Toca and Grid guy. If you played Toca and Grid, you would know what damage is.

RazMaTaz-1

and as i said, the actual physics bit is great, but the visual bit isn't. learn to read :|. and yeah TOCA had cool damage... GT5p doesn't. but don't worry because it still has better damage modelling :lol:

and as i said. even scraping your car against the wall can damage your engine enough to halve it's power in forza 2. damage IS NOT just about cars crinkling.

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]I like how the fanboy lemmings totally changed the subject of what this thread is about. Pathetic :roll:marklarmer

the thread is about car models, trying not to include damage to those car models is just a fanboys way of making GT win.

Why don't you? Stop trolling and being so desperate. This is his thread, not yours. If you don't like it, go make your own thread.Bubblehash

please quote where it said this does not include damage modeling. ITS A POLL FFS, what is it mandatory to choose GT5?

lemmings are getting really despereate now...

FIrst...we got damage modeling woo hoo

then...blah blah still damage modeling makes everything good

then...so what if it doesn't look realisitc at all, we still have it

then...well it affects the car greatly.

lemmings are getting really despereate now...

FIrst...we got damage modeling woo hoo

then...blah blah still damage modeling makes everything good

then...so what if it doesn't look realisitc at all, we still have it

then...well it affects the car greatly.

Adonymous

and thats worse than asking people to use their imagination in a graphics comparison?

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

so damage modelling isnt part of the car?

marklarmer

No.

pathetic, why dont i just create the same poll just asking which game has better damage modelling?

so saying damage modeling is directly linked to a cars modeling is trolling?

lemmings are getting really despereate now...

FIrst...we got damage modeling woo hoo

then...blah blah still damage modeling makes everything good

then...so what if it doesn't look realisitc at all, we still have it

then...well it affects the car greatly.

Adonymous

i am getting desperate????? :shock: i've been saying the same thing throughout. :| another failure from the keyboard of you and cowdom

We are not talking about damage modeling, but that seems to keep going over your head. It has been said plenty on times in this thread that we aren't talking about damage. Yet you ignore that and keep on trying to argue. So yes you are trolling.Bubblehash

hmm, thats funny all it says in the opening post is:

"This is only about the car models, not the environments"

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]Why don't you? Stop trolling and being so desperate. This is his thread, not yours. If you don't like it, go make your own thread.marklarmer

please quote where it said this does not include damage modeling. ITS A POLL FFS, what is it mandatory to choose GT5?

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

lemmings are getting really despereate now...

FIrst...we got damage modeling woo hoo

then...blah blah still damage modeling makes everything good

then...so what if it doesn't look realisitc at all, we still have it

then...well it affects the car greatly.

crunchUK

i am getting desperate????? :shock: i've been saying the same thing throughout. :| another failure from the keyboard of you and cowdom

whine whine whine

dude, give up.

GT5 has better graphics than Forza.

Forza has laughable Damage Modelling...especially compared to GRID, Toca, GTR, etc....either do it right or don't do it at all.

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

We are not talking about damage modeling, but that seems to keep going over your head. It has been said plenty on times in this thread that we aren't talking about damage. Yet you ignore that and keep on trying to argue. So yes you are trolling.marklarmer

hmm, thats funny all it says in the opening post is:

"This is only about the car models, not the environments"

Rikusaki is back.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]Why don't you? Stop trolling and being so desperate. This is his thread, not yours. If you don't like it, go make your own thread.Bubblehash

please quote where it said this does not include damage modeling. ITS A POLL FFS, what is it mandatory to choose GT5?

i do apologize for thinking realistic is better. i chose GT5 anyway, i just wanted to watch cows squirm over the whole damage thing.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZaHmyCcSszo&feature=related

Jack **** happened :|

Adonymous

this.

Ownage approved.

That's not realistic at all!

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZaHmyCcSszo&feature=related

Jack **** happened :|

Rikusaki

this.

Ownage approved.

That's not realistic at all!

...yea I know :|

[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

lemmings are getting really despereate now...

FIrst...we got damage modeling woo hoo

then...blah blah still damage modeling makes everything good

then...so what if it doesn't look realisitc at all, we still have it

then...well it affects the car greatly.

Adonymous

i am getting desperate????? :shock: i've been saying the same thing throughout. :| another failure from the keyboard of you and cowdom

whine whine whine

dude, give up.

GT5 has better graphics than Forza.

Forza has laughable Damage Modelling...especially compared to GRID, Toca, GTR, etc....either do it right or don't do it at all.

fine, don't listen to me and my pals called reason and logic. be a fanboy because i am finished talking to you unless you have something that doesn't translate into MOOOOOOOOO

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]Why don't you? Stop trolling and being so desperate. This is his thread, not yours. If you don't like it, go make your own thread.marklarmer

please quote where it said this does not include damage modeling. ITS A POLL FFS, what is it mandatory to choose GT5?

i do apologize for thinking realistic is better. i chose GT5 anyway, i just wanted to watch cows squirm over the whole damage thing.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZaHmyCcSszo&feature=related

Jack **** happened :|

Adonymous

this.

Ownage approved.

That's not realistic at all!

...yea I know :|

Polyphony won't include damage in their game until they feel that they can do it RIGHT.

This... this is far from it.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

lemmings are getting really despereate now...

FIrst...we got damage modeling woo hoo

then...blah blah still damage modeling makes everything good

then...so what if it doesn't look realisitc at all, we still have it

then...well it affects the car greatly.

crunchUK

i am getting desperate????? :shock: i've been saying the same thing throughout. :| another failure from the keyboard of you and cowdom

whine whine whine

dude, give up.

GT5 has better graphics than Forza.

Forza has laughable Damage Modelling...especially compared to GRID, Toca, GTR, etc....either do it right or don't do it at all.

fine, don't listen to me and my pals called reason and logic. be a fanboy because i am finished talking to you unless you have something that doesn't translate into MOOOOOOOOO

hahahahahahahahahaha

reason and logic...if you knew anything about reason and logic you'd just stop posting...now

This is how this thread went:

OP:Hai guise lets talk about beatiful cars :D :D :D

you: lol car doesn't show dents, car suxxors

OP: noo...me talkie about cars, not damage

you: totally unrealsitc blah blah...look it doesn't go boom so it suxxors

OP: :| u srsly?

you: an...an..and cars act different when damaged

OP: I'm talking about graphicx

you; ohh and moar carsss...and did i mention damage...and painting cars...

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZaHmyCcSszo&feature=related

Jack **** happened :|

Rikusaki

this.

Ownage approved.

That's not realistic at all!

...yea I know :|

Polyphony won't include damage in their game until they feel that they can do it RIGHT.

This... this is far from it.

yeah, are all you cows going to judge GT5s damage on 8 second clips? though it is fun to watch people so eager to discredit forza 2s damage.

hahahahahahahahahaha

reason and logic...if you knew anything about reason and logic you'd just stop posting...now

This is how this thread went:

OP:Hai guise lets talk about beatiful cars :D :D :D

you: lol car doesn't show dents, car suxxors

OP: noo...me talkie about cars, not damage

you: totally unrealsitc blah blah...look it doesn't go boom so it suxxors

OP: :| u srsly?

you: an...an..and cars act different when damaged

OP: I'm talking about graphicx

you; ohh and moar carsss...and did i mention damage...and painting cars...

Adonymous

You're good.

This topic was supposed to be about the car models in their perfect form.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

hahahahahahahahahaha

reason and logic...if you knew anything about reason and logic you'd just stop posting...now

This is how this thread went:

OP:Hai guise lets talk about beatiful cars :D :D :D

you: lol car doesn't show dents, car suxxors

OP: noo...me talkie about cars, not damage

you: totally unrealsitc blah blah...look it doesn't go boom so it suxxors

OP: :| u srsly?

you: an...an..and cars act different when damaged

OP: I'm talking about graphicx

you; ohh and moar carsss...and did i mention damage...and painting cars...

Rikusaki

You're good.

forgot to add in achievements though :(

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZaHmyCcSszo&feature=related

Jack **** happened :|

marklarmer

this.

Ownage approved.

That's not realistic at all!

...yea I know :|

Polyphony won't include damage in their game until they feel that they can do it RIGHT.

This... this is far from it.

yeah, are all you cows going to judge GT5s damage on 8 second clips? though it is fun to watch people so eager to discredit forza 2s damage.

ok genius, show us a montage of some of the best crashes from forza that reflect realism please

This topic was supposed to be about the car modesl in their perfect form.

If you bring in damage into this thread, Gran Turismo 5 might as well not be in the poll.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Polyphony won't include damage in their game until they feel that they can do it RIGHT.

This... this is far from it.

RazMaTaz-1

yeah, are all you cows going to judge GT5s damage on 8 second clips? though it is fun to watch people so eager to discredit forza 2s damage.

ok genius, show us a montage of some of the best crashes from forza that reflect realism please

I want to see this too.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

Yeah, cuz lemmings can soo easily know whats going with development of GT5 :roll:

Good thing you are damage controlling. a Car at 50MPH can cause rediculous amount of havok. www.wreckedexotics.com , have a look at the site and storys, some cars crash at 50mph and have devestating damage. That Forza Saleen video, that car is easily going what? 80mph, and a bumper barely went flying off? LMFAO.

waits for the *but but teh GT5 dont hav deh damage :cry: * Sorry, i dont even care about GT5 to be honest. I more of a Toca and Grid guy. If you played Toca and Grid, you would know what damage is.

crunchUK

and as i said, the actual physics bit is great, but the visual bit isn't. learn to read :|. and yeah TOCA had cool damage... GT5p doesn't. but don't worry because it still has better damage modelling :lol:

and as i said. even scraping your car against the wall can damage your engine enough to halve it's power in forza 2. damage IS NOT just about cars crinkling.

you wanna talk physics? Ok, click a button on the controller and it shows all this so called G force and latitude of the cars movement, yet the cars movement is not even any better than that of GT5's. How do you know its not just made up numbers that are being calculated? How you do you Know MS didnt pay the science mag about the Forza = Most dynamically realistic driving eva?, Also, I have taken my uncles porsche down Nurboring(i will gladly post pics of my uncles porsche), and that car sticks on the groud at 150mph. In Forza, you can barely corner the 911 turbo at 100 mph. You litterly have to break.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

Yeah, cuz lemmings can soo easily know whats going with development of GT5 :roll:

Good thing you are damage controlling. a Car at 50MPH can cause rediculous amount of havok. www.wreckedexotics.com , have a look at the site and storys, some cars crash at 50mph and have devestating damage. That Forza Saleen video, that car is easily going what? 80mph, and a bumper barely went flying off? LMFAO.

waits for the *but but teh GT5 dont hav deh damage :cry: * Sorry, i dont even care about GT5 to be honest. I more of a Toca and Grid guy. If you played Toca and Grid, you would know what damage is.

RazMaTaz-1

and as i said, the actual physics bit is great, but the visual bit isn't. learn to read :|. and yeah TOCA had cool damage... GT5p doesn't. but don't worry because it still has better damage modelling :lol:

and as i said. even scraping your car against the wall can damage your engine enough to halve it's power in forza 2. damage IS NOT just about cars crinkling.

you wanna talk physics? Ok, click a button on the controller and it shows all this so called G force and latitude of the cars movement, yet the cars movement is not even any better than that of GT5's. How do you know its not just made up numbers that are being calculated? How you do you Know MS didnt pay the science mag about the Forza = Most dynamically realistic driving eva?, Also, I have taken my uncles porsche down Nurboring(i will gladly post pics of my uncles porsche), and that car sticks on the groud at 150mph. In Forza, you can barely corner the 911 turbo at 100 mph. You litterly have to break.

Yeah.

Forza 2's physics calculations are very inaccurate.

So are their car models.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

Yeah, cuz lemmings can soo easily know whats going with development of GT5 :roll:

Good thing you are damage controlling. a Car at 50MPH can cause rediculous amount of havok. www.wreckedexotics.com , have a look at the site and storys, some cars crash at 50mph and have devestating damage. That Forza Saleen video, that car is easily going what? 80mph, and a bumper barely went flying off? LMFAO.

waits for the *but but teh GT5 dont hav deh damage :cry: * Sorry, i dont even care about GT5 to be honest. I more of a Toca and Grid guy. If you played Toca and Grid, you would know what damage is.

RazMaTaz-1

and as i said, the actual physics bit is great, but the visual bit isn't. learn to read :|. and yeah TOCA had cool damage... GT5p doesn't. but don't worry because it still has better damage modelling :lol:

and as i said. even scraping your car against the wall can damage your engine enough to halve it's power in forza 2. damage IS NOT just about cars crinkling.

you wanna talk physics? Ok, click a button on the controller and it shows all this so called G force and latitude of the cars movement, yet the cars movement is not even any better than that of GT5's. How do you know its not just made up numbers that are being calculated? How you do you Know MS didnt pay the science mag about the Forza = Most dynamically realistic driving eva?, Also, I have taken my uncles porsche down Nurboring(i will gladly post pics of my uncles porsche), and that car sticks on the groud at 150mph. In Forza, you can barely corner the 911 turbo at 100 mph. You litterly have to break.

it helps that you are pretty much wrong given that the nuburgring track has corners of like 8 degrees and you can do them at pretty much any speed. . .... also could i please have proof of these bogus calculations?

also i :lol:'d at "in their perfect form" :lol:. cow narrowing it down enough until ps3 can be best at something :lol::lol::lol:

typical cow. car models only because...? i wonder why... :roll: OOH RIGHT. because it's the only thing in GT5p that looks decent.

anyway: car models GT5p, overall pgr 4.

also capture card my ***. that red pgr supra is a screen from BEFORE it was out. :roll:

crunchUK

Typical fanboy response, now was that really called for, fanboy??

you wanna talk physics? Ok, click a button on the controller and it shows all this so called G force and latitude of the cars movement, yet the cars movement is not even any better than that of GT5's. How do you know its not just made up numbers that are being calculated? How you do you Know MS didnt pay the science mag about the Forza = Most dynamically realistic driving eva?, Also, I have taken my uncles porsche down Nurboring(i will gladly post pics of my uncles porsche), and that car sticks on the groud at 150mph. In Forza, you can barely corner the 911 turbo at 100 mph. You litterly have to break.

RazMaTaz-1

Why is it that people always think that "damage" in reference to Foza is about bumpers flying off? That isnt what people are talking about at all. It's not the aesthetic damage. It has nothing to do with that. It's about the gradual deterioration of the car depending on how you race it.

Also: are you really saying that you taking your uncle's porsche round a track > developers of car-racing games? :lol:

[QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]GT5 Hands Down....no contest.Jared2720

that depends if you think real cars are invincible.

we're talking about car models, not how they behave.

so damage modelling isnt part of the car?

Go to your local auto parts store and ask for damage modeling to get your answer.

Drive your car through an auto parts store and you will get damage modeling

Also, why would microsoft pay off a Scientific publication to write an article about their video game, months after it's release? Readers of scientific publications sure are a lucrative marketing demographic, right?

Seriously, if you cant come up with an arguement better than "they were paid off", dont bother.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

Yeah, cuz lemmings can soo easily know whats going with development of GT5 :roll:

Good thing you are damage controlling. a Car at 50MPH can cause rediculous amount of havok. www.wreckedexotics.com , have a look at the site and storys, some cars crash at 50mph and have devestating damage. That Forza Saleen video, that car is easily going what? 80mph, and a bumper barely went flying off? LMFAO.

waits for the *but but teh GT5 dont hav deh damage :cry: * Sorry, i dont even care about GT5 to be honest. I more of a Toca and Grid guy. If you played Toca and Grid, you would know what damage is.

RazMaTaz-1

and as i said, the actual physics bit is great, but the visual bit isn't. learn to read :|. and yeah TOCA had cool damage... GT5p doesn't. but don't worry because it still has better damage modelling :lol:

and as i said. even scraping your car against the wall can damage your engine enough to halve it's power in forza 2. damage IS NOT just about cars crinkling.

you wanna talk physics? Ok, click a button on the controller and it shows all this so called G force and latitude of the cars movement, yet the cars movement is not even any better than that of GT5's. How do you know its not just made up numbers that are being calculated? How you do you Know MS didnt pay the science mag about the Forza = Most dynamically realistic driving eva?, Also, I have taken my uncles porsche down Nurboring(i will gladly post pics of my uncles porsche), and that car sticks on the groud at 150mph. In Forza, you can barely corner the 911 turbo at 100 mph. You litterly have to break.

+ The fact that you can spell the name of the course in question - Nurburgring - is further proof of the honesty pours forth from your post. That and the impeccable grammar.

From the way your post was formed, I doubt that your credibility over Physics is in question.. Only joking. Please formulate a better and come back later.

typical cow. car models only because...? i wonder why... :roll: OOH RIGHT. because it's the only thing in GT5p that looks decent.

anyway: car models GT5p, overall pgr 4.

also capture card my ***. that red pgr supra is a screen from BEFORE it was out. :roll:

crunchUK

baaaaaaa or *does a lemming noise*??????? which one are YOU?

But KOTORkicker, he drove his uncle's porsche. He knows what he's talking about.Ninja-Hippo

Exactly. And he drove it around the 'ring without ever using the brakes, so obviously he has all the answers.

If you want to challenge any other aspect of GT5P's graphics, then by all means go ahead. But whatever you do, don't even THINK about challenging its car models. That is nothing less than suicide.nervmeister

obviously, which makes this thread pointless, look at the results. at least some of us tried to make it interesting by talking about damage.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]

Yeah, cuz lemmings can soo easily know whats going with development of GT5 :roll:

Good thing you are damage controlling. a Car at 50MPH can cause rediculous amount of havok. www.wreckedexotics.com , have a look at the site and storys, some cars crash at 50mph and have devestating damage. That Forza Saleen video, that car is easily going what? 80mph, and a bumper barely went flying off? LMFAO.

waits for the *but but teh GT5 dont hav deh damage :cry: * Sorry, i dont even care about GT5 to be honest. I more of a Toca and Grid guy. If you played Toca and Grid, you would know what damage is.

KOTORkicker

and as i said, the actual physics bit is great, but the visual bit isn't. learn to read :|. and yeah TOCA had cool damage... GT5p doesn't. but don't worry because it still has better damage modelling :lol:

and as i said. even scraping your car against the wall can damage your engine enough to halve it's power in forza 2. damage IS NOT just about cars crinkling.

you wanna talk physics? Ok, click a button on the controller and it shows all this so called G force and latitude of the cars movement, yet the cars movement is not even any better than that of GT5's. How do you know its not just made up numbers that are being calculated? How you do you Know MS didnt pay the science mag about the Forza = Most dynamically realistic driving eva?, Also, I have taken my uncles porsche down Nurboring(i will gladly post pics of my uncles porsche), and that car sticks on the groud at 150mph. In Forza, you can barely corner the 911 turbo at 100 mph. You litterly have to break.

+ The fact that you can spell the name of the course in question - Nurburgring - is further proof of the honesty pours forth from your post. That and the impeccable grammar.

From the way your post was formed, I doubt that your credibility over Physics is in question.. Only joking. Please formulate a better and come back later.

i was taking the mick that the circuit wasnt even taht great :| Dumbos confirmed.

neways, heres my uncles porsche that i hammered around the circuit:

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/7/26/f_12072008497m_757f4f9.jpg

I think you guys are clueless. Do any of you actually drive first?

2ndly, GTR touring cars handle around the bend at over 100mph with ease at tight corners. The fact you have to harshly break and then accelorate is beyond stupid. Even GT5 lacks this concept. The steering only rotates of what? 1 wheel turn when speeding? thats pathetic.