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#1 chikenfriedrice
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Has to be Crysis....just stated the game but either I suck with m/k (which I think I do) or the AI is very impressive...they flank, they come out of the jungle and attack, they throw grenades like crazy, they can see me when I don't think they can....what game has better AI than this?
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#2 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Wolf 3D had the best enemy AI >_>
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i thought FEAR had the best enemy AI.
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#4 Dr-Doctor
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The original Hlaf Life has the best enemy AI.
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#5 BubbyJello
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I would say DKC. Those damn Kremlings are smart.
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#6 demon565
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I would say Halo 3 had some impressive A.I. for the enemy although not for the marines. Also Fear was very impressive.
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I would say Halo 3 had some impressive A.I. for the enemy although not for the marines. Also Fear was very impressive. demon565

I played fear on the 360 and hated it but maybe the PC version was better and yes Halo 3 was pretty good in the AI dept

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#8 Kez1984
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Stalker.
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#9 chikenfriedrice
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Wolf 3D had the best enemy AI >_>Jandurin

old school!

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#10 Doom_HellKnight
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Half-Life (1), S.T.A.L.K.E.R and F.E.A.R all have very impressive AI.
Half-Life more so, considering the AI of the HECU Marines still stands up to the AI we see in today's games. At least, IMO.

F.E.A.R's AI is made more impressive by the amazing animations that support it.

Whilst Halo 3's enemy AI was quite nice, the friendly marines have succumbed to the "stupid" virus, infecting the AI of some of the more recent games.

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#11 mo0ksi
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i thought FEAR had the best enemy AI.bulletsword
Definately. They adapt well to their surroundings and it surprises me even to this day. STALKER also deserves a noting.

With the TC choosing Crysis, I'll have to strongly disagree with you. There are several times when I was in front of KPA soldiers and they showed very slow reactions. They don't adapt well to the enviornment at all most of the time either. I cruised through the game 6 times on Delta. That's an issue for me.

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#12 chikenfriedrice
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Stalker.Kez1984

never played a stalker game...I just started the whole PC thing so maybe i'll check it out....there is a new one coming right?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Wolf 3D had the best enemy AI >_>chikenfriedrice

old school!

Spion! *gasp* *runs* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch4rtjoPAIA
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#14 locopatho
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Half Life games. Even the first one is better than most games today scarily enough
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#15 killab2oo5
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Gears of War and Condemned have been the most impressive for me so far.
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#16 Vandalvideo
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i thought FEAR had the best enemy AI.bulletsword
Agree. FEAR easily has the best AI.
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#17 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Stalker.chikenfriedrice

never played a stalker game...I just started the whole PC thing so maybe i'll check it out....there is a new one coming right?

Yea, not a sequel, prequel, 50 new map added and i think they are augmenting the 50 percent of the stuff already there, if you like rpg hybrids like deus ex or system shock 2 it's worth a look, if you like more run and gun type games like halflife or halo, it might not appeal. Some people love it, others hate it.

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#18 Nisim19
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halo 3 on legndary
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halo 3 on legndaryNisim19
:) It was much funner with the skulls that make them yell and dodge grenades. There were some others,but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
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#20 Kez1984
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Half Life games. Even the first one is better than most games today scarily enoughlocopatho

Yea, your absolutely right. Also it was amazing seeing the A.I battle each other. Particularly the Marines.

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[QUOTE="Nisim19"]halo 3 on legndarykillab2oo5
:) It was much funner with the skulls that make them yell and dodge grenades. There were some others,but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

I like the one that made 'em cheer when you got a headshot and have confetti explode out their heads. :lol:
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#22 Lonelynight
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STALKER or Crysis

Both had problems, but they are in a large open environment oppose to games like FEAR where there are in close corridors.

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#23 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="bulletsword"]i thought FEAR had the best enemy AI.mo0ksi

Definately. They adapt well to their surroundings and it surprises me even to this day. STALKER also deserves a noting.

With the TC choosing Crysis, I'll have to strongly disagree with you. There are several times when I was in front of KPA soldiers and they showed very slow reactions. They don't adapt well to the enviornment at all most of the time either. I cruised through the game 6 times on Delta. That's an issue for me.

it's probably me I must suck lol....I need to break the gamepad out

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#24 skilfulgary
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R6 vegas 2.they can make some good moves on you that i sometimes get jealous of

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#25 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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it's probably me I must suck lol....I need to break the gamepad out

chikenfriedrice
Just learn to use mouse/keyboard. It's worth it to use the different interface.
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#26 fjburgos
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Gears of War and Condemned have been the most impressive for me so far.killab2oo5
Gear of War for mee has one of the most dumbest AI. Heavenly Sword too. But Uncharted has great AI those guys sometimes are dificutl to hit. If you playit in hardest mode is almost imposible.
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#27 DuDisNow
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Halo 3 has the best enemy AI. When one of their "friends die" they go beserk, they dodge grenades when thrown at them, they send out the weaker allies first then go after their enemy. They also react very fast and take cover without question.
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#28 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

it's probably me I must suck lol....I need to break the gamepad out

Jandurin

Just learn to use mouse/keyboard. It's worth it to use the different interface.

I guess...I mean it takes some getting used to because I have to look down sometimes and it's not as natural as a gamepad but I have been a console gamer my whole life so that's the problem lol

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#29 waynehead895
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Nisim19"]halo 3 on legndaryJandurin
:) It was much funner with the skulls that make them yell and dodge grenades. There were some others,but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

I like the one that made 'em cheer when you got a headshot and have confetti explode out their heads. :lol:

The confetti one is called Grunt's Birthday Party. Absolutely loved it.
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]Gears of War and Condemned have been the most impressive for me so far.fjburgos
Gear of War for mee has one of the most dumbest AI. Heavenly Sword too. But Uncharted has great AI those guys sometimes are dificutl to hit. If you playit in hardest mode is almost imposible.

I love Gears but the AI is nothing to write home about. It's ok on Insane mode.
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I guess...I mean it takes some getting used to because I have to look down sometimes and it's not as natural as a gamepad but I have been a console gamer my whole life so that's the problem lol

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Try inverting mouse look?
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#32 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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FEAR has some of the best AI I've ever seen. That's really what saves the game from being just another mediocre FPS.
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#33 Tiefster
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RFoM had some pretty good enemy AI, it actually surprised me that Chimera would come looking for me. Crysis probably had some of the best though, once you got used to it it was easy but initially the AI kicked my ass.
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#34 _Nightcrawle_
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i thought FEAR had the best enemy AI.bulletsword

i played it on the ps3 and i was really stunned on how they reacted with the surroundings

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#35 Killfox
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STALKER or Crysis

Both had problems, but they are in a large open environment oppose to games like FEAR where there are in close corridors.

Lonelynight

Agreed. I am more impressed by how good the AI was in such an open environment. It is very hard to write how AI acts with so many object on screen and so many possibilities. So that why I feel they were both the more impressive games with AI.

Anyone can write good AI if they are in corridors sine there are only so many scenarios that can be played out in each.

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#36 redneckdouglas
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They're all pretty generic and stupid in general. Too much recycled AI coding through-out the years. That is not what they claimed "next-generation".
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#37 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I guess...I mean it takes some getting used to because I have to look down sometimes and it's not as natural as a gamepad but I have been a console gamer my whole life so that's the problem lol

Jandurin

Try inverting mouse look?

the mouse I like the keyboard I hate! I hate using W to and S to walk etc lol

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#38 kenshinhimura16
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Uncharted.

The AI in Crysis was bad even in the hardest dif. I would believe that STALKER has a good AI, but they just have a good arsenal which kills you sooner, they still move in a line and go behind trees as soon as you fire, but they dont try to surround you at all or flank you.

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the mouse I like the keyboard I hate! I hate using W to and S to walk etc lol

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Ah. That just takes time.
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#40 Bazfrag
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i thought FEAR had the best enemy AI.bulletsword
It failed the "Bazfrag Test"(tm). Which is: Does the enemy walk dumbly round a corner you have covered?

To be fair thats only when they cannot flank, but strolling into your gunfire one at a time is something i would expect from Doom.

"but they turn over furniture to make thier own cover" you could say. Yeah, once, and its scripted.

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Yeah, once, and its scripted.

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Dude, everyone knows good AI is evidenced by how much they like hot lead in their bowels. ... I'm getting kinda punchy. I should tone myself down a notch. :lol:
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#42 Bazfrag
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[QUOTE="Bazfrag"]

Yeah, once, and its scripted.

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Dude, everyone knows good AI is evidenced by how much they like hot lead in their bowels. ... I'm getting kinda punchy. I should tone myself down a notch. :lol:

Nah! Your fine as you are :P
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#43 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

the mouse I like the keyboard I hate! I hate using W to and S to walk etc lol

Jandurin

Ah. That just takes time.

yeah and I will try to get used to it...I just hate getting my ass handed to me while I learn lol

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2142, honestly. they act exactly like online players do, right up to the kamikazes.
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#45 crunchUK
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halo 3 ENEMY AI and rainbow 6 vegas.

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halo 3 ENEMY AI and rainbow 6 vegas.

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R6V was a hard game....I still haven't beat it :P

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#47 akif22
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it's hard to tell .. i don't really notice if AI is good or not

and you have to remember that some of the things enemeis do might not even by AI technically .. e.g. actions that they do randomly to give the impression of AI

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#48 naval
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]

[QUOTE="bulletsword"]i thought FEAR had the best enemy AI.chikenfriedrice

Definately. They adapt well to their surroundings and it surprises me even to this day. STALKER also deserves a noting.

With the TC choosing Crysis, I'll have to strongly disagree with you. There are several times when I was in front of KPA soldiers and they showed very slow reactions. They don't adapt well to the enviornment at all most of the time either. I cruised through the game 6 times on Delta. That's an issue for me.

it's probably me I must suck lol....I need to break the gamepad out

no don't worry, the ai in crysis was definitely good ,although broken. what i mean is they somethimes bechaved in a random maner or do strange things but when they are behavign as expected then there are pretty dangegrous - they surround you from all sides and move behind trees etc.

On topic I think best I is definitely FEAR

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#49 ice144
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half life, FEAR, and crysis are the only ones I can think of that literally make me think on the fly to compete with them.
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#50 ReverseCycology
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Speaking about enemy AI, man those enemy AI in Battlefield Bad Company are super psychic. They always know where you are even if you're using a silenced sniper on top of a mountain. You shoot one guy and the other guys know where you are afters! And they're pretty good shots too. Pretty annoying.