Best Platformer this gen

[QUOTE="2-10-08"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Never said it wasn't. It is however quite overrated. I mean it still uses the episode setup from Sunshine. That pretty much killed it right there. That and the lack of any real hub worlds. So many games from past gens beat all the games listed here. R&C was the only good game up there and it's not really a platformer. Sonic Unleashed is a platformer that did something new for the franchise and remixed some old concepts for people who are real Sega fans. That and it's the only platformer I can think of that takes skill to play. It's more technical than it is broken. Some nice side missions, hubs to explore(though they are incredibly small), nice mix of speed stages and combat stages, and a great presentation. Sonic Unleashed beats the snot out Sonic 06 and proved Sonic is still alive. Dark Gaia was simply epic. Really, Sonic Unleashed was the best choice I could think of considering I didn't really like the games listed here. I see no problem with that.sonicthemegaman

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="2-10-08"] Weird, considering Tools of Destruction was more like previous R & Cs than Super Mario Galaxy was to Super Mario Sunshine. Super Mario Galaxy, there is nothing wrong with that game.Shinobishyguy

Since when does Mario Galaxy have camera issues!?! Isn't one of the reasons Mario Galaxy is hailed so much is because of it's perfect camera!?!Willy105

[QUOTE="Willy105"]Since when does Mario Galaxy have camera issues!?! Isn't one of the reasons Mario Galaxy is hailed so much is because of it's perfect camera!?!sonicthemegaman

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

LBP rocks as a creative tool, but it's pretty damn flawed as a platformer. The mechanics are floaty and janky. And I love LBP. But as a straight up platformer, it can't compete.

Manticore7

:shock: Is this even possible??

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Willy105"]Since when does Mario Galaxy have camera issues!?! Isn't one of the reasons Mario Galaxy is hailed so much is because of it's perfect camera!?!Willy105

super mario galaxy followed close by super paper mario and nsmb

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Battle with Kingfin?sonicthemegaman

super mario galaxy followed close by super paper mario and nsmb

mariokart64fan

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Willy105"] There were camera problems there? I thought it was an awesome (although easy) boss.Willy105

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] It's way too easy to run into Kingfin when he is offscreen. He is constantly moving and the camera isn't fixed on him. It's simply hard to SEE Kingfin when fighting him wihich gives an insulting easy boss fight artificial difficulty. Even Egg Genesis had a better camera and when you fight it as silver, you can't even see the ground but, at least you can see the damn robot.sonicthemegaman

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Did I say it was rehashed? ToD being more like the first didn't exactly kill ya know. As for Galaxy, my point about Sunshine was because Sunshine had design issues that made it bad. Being more like SM64 is what made Galaxy any good to begin with. Copying Sunshine did more harm than good and the game was obviously some sorta successor to SM64. Too bad SM64 is argueably better than Galaxy. There is something wrong in almost every game ever made. SMG being too easy and having camera issues disproves that there is "nothing wrong with that game".sonicthemegaman

and considering that it's the weakest of the 3d mario's, that's saying alot.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Willy105"] I never had that experience before. I never even came close to Kingfin, let alone run into him offscreen. How is that possible? Anyway, I am more experienced with camera, since I started playing when the first games that used a camera came out.Willy105

trust me. it takes some real skill with the camera to beat bosses like Iblis Phase 2 where Iblis literally attacks you from offscreen.sonicthemegaman

didnt you say sonic and the dark knight was better then galaxy in an other thread? o,o

hardcore sonic fan.

sonic would be proud of you

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]and even then super mario sunshine is better than every console sonic game after adventure 2. :|Shinobishyguy

and considering that it's the weakest of the 3d mario's, that's saying alot.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Willy105"]There's a difference. Cameras for N64 games were primitive. The camera for Sonic 06 is broken.

Shinobishyguy

Broken design I overcame :D

didnt you say sonic and the dark knight was better then galaxy in an other thread? o,o

hardcore sonic fan.

sonic would be proud of you

[QUOTE="Manticore7"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

LBP rocks as a creative tool, but it's pretty damn flawed as a platformer. The mechanics are floaty and janky. And I love LBP. But as a straight up platformer, it can't compete.

bobcheeseball

:shock: Is this even possible??

I would suggest getting SMG. While NSMB will likely be a great game, from what I've seen of videos of it - it looks significantly different than galaxy.

I'm sure you can pick SMG up used ... and based on the ratings here, currently over 50% of folks believe it to be the top platformer this gen. NSMB seems to be more multiplayer based and while possibly a contender for best platformer this gen - it's a totally different game.

Definitely Super Mario Galaxy. No contest.

SMG and it's not even close. LBP has a great level editor, but it's overy floaty platforming mechanics are mediocre. It might win best level editor but certainly not best platformer. R&C is a fairly good game but it doesn't have the same level polish and just isn't on the same level as SMG. Mirror's Edge was an absolute blast. It was a huge breath of fresh air, but some of the mechanics did not work as well as the should have and the combat was clunky and just not fun.

Galaxy no contest. I just love mario so much.

Super Mario Galaxy.

I tried LBP but some of the levels weren't very fun... It doesn't make it better that the stuff you need to jump on is the exact same color as the background.

It was still enjoyable though.

But we still have New Super Mario Bros Wii coming so why make this thread now?

Super Mario Galaxy, Mario platformers deliver big time, and that's the gospel truth.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Sonic Heroes?sonicthemegaman

and considering that it's the weakest of the 3d mario's, that's saying alot.

D-Did you just say Sonic Heroes was better then Super Mario Sunshine? :shock:

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]yes..even that.

and considering that it's the weakest of the 3d mario's, that's saying alot.

D-Did you just say Sonic Heroes was better then Super Mario Sunshine? :shock:

No it's not because sunshine is much worse than heroes. For starters, Heroes brought back the old Sonic atitude while Sunshine's story is somewhat of a ripoff of Sonic Adventure 2. Sunshine also had underwater levels which are never fun unless it's an Insomninac game like Spyro or Ratchet. That stuff has never worked and water the game's theme for christ sake. Sunshine is also unfairly hard and cheap at times. Not even the giant croc at the end of Lost Jungle can compete with the frustration that is the Sand Bird. Sunshine had episodes while Heroes had actual levels with actual missions. Even the VA in Heroes is better. I swear I got chills when Bowser starting talking. I mean I'd like for him to have a voice but his voice in Sunshine was bad and he didn't really say anything until the end of the game. Speaking of which, Sunshine has a terrible story. At least learning that MS came back was actually cool. How Baby Bowser got tricked into thinking Peach was his mom just to later admit that he already knew it wasn't true was a stupid idea for a story. Heroes had better music that fit the game and was something I could rock out to. Noki Bay, Delfino Plaza, and the Special stage themes were the only good songs from Sunshine. Heores even had better gameplay. Utilizing team based gameplay was a great homage to Chaotix and it was cool to see the old gang make an appearance in the game. It was classic Sonic action in 3d with a lemon twist. ST should have just improved on that game and made a sequel instead of bothering to make that Shadow game. As for Sunshine? Lots of paint washing and coin collecting. The episode setup made the core gameplay almost impossible like once the game came to end. There was no replay value. The underwater levels sealed the deal there. Sunshine also has extra sensitive jumping controls. Jump in the wrong direction or jump in the wrong along and Fludd's hover is the only thing that can save you. So many pitfall deaths you'd thinl you were playing Sonic Unleashed but at least when you die in that game, it's not because the midair controls are robotic in nature. That's saying alot cause Unleashed kinda screwed the jumping a bit yet Sunshine still manages to fail even harder. Heroes lets you fly and perform homing attacks that can all save you from a pitfall. The fact that Heroes lets you change direction in midair is enough right there. Heroes had better bosses. So much better that I can hardly feel the need to explain why. I least you only fight the same bosses with different teams instead of going against the same giant blooper in two different locations just so it can die the same way. The manta-ray thing was the only decent boss in Sunshine. Metal Overload beats Bowser in a hot tub any day. I could go on and on about how much better Heroes is than Sunshine so unless you have any counter points, Heroes is still better than Sunshine which is understandable because you're comparing one of the best Sonic games to one of the worst 3d mario games.sonicthemegaman

D-Did you just say Sonic Heroes was better then Super Mario Sunshine? :shock:

Out of the available choices from the poll, easily the best platformer this generation is Super Mario Galaxy...though LittleBigPlanet is second on my list.

Easily Super Mario Galaxy for me.

I really liked Super Mario Galaxy... but I lovedHenry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure.

Umm, well I actually think I'd have to give the nudge to Henry Hatsworth.

It's like a ninja gaiden/tetris attack blend of awesome. And I don't mean the new Ninja Gaiden, but the old NES ones (this has more to do with the inferiority of the DS hardware than anything). It's a bit deeper than Ninja Gaiden combat-wise though.

Also the music is awesome :) I downloaded the whole soundtrack from EA's website.

It's really difficult imo. At least the later boss fights. They made me want to throw my DS :P Which I can because handhelds are convinient that way :P

Mr_Nordquist

Spread the word, brother!

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

D-Did you just say Sonic Heroes was better then Super Mario Sunshine? :shock:

Pices

I could say the same about Mario......

Super Mario Galaxy (The level design is fantastic I can't wait to see the level design in Super Mario Galaxy 2)

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] As a matter of fact, yes.sonicthemegaman

I could say the same about Mario......

ANYTHING that has Sonic is better than Mario is good, right? So, if they released Sonic and the 7 Dwarfes, then its a good game? Ofcourse, its SONICPices

I could say the same about Mario......

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]

I could say the same about Mario......

sonicthemegaman

that says alot about your credibility

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]except that mario platformers aren't pieces of crap like the recent sonic outings.Shinobishyguy

it's pretty damn obvious that you'll eat up any crap sonic team dishes out.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]

I could say the same about Mario......

sonicthemegaman

I own both 3D Sonic games and 3D Mario games, including Sonic Heroes and Super Mario Sunshine. Guess what? I liked Sunshine better. Does that mean I'm wrong, now?

I only like Sonic 06 because unlike you, I know what it is. A beta. Sonic 06 was rushed and wasn't able to be properly finished which lead to the game infamous camera issues and incredibly short length. However, actively playing 06 is like playing the spiritual successor to the Sonic Adventure games. A lot of good ideas went into the game. A hub world, side missions, medals to collect, and of course the action stages but it didn't come out right because of the deadline. Sonic 06 is the kinda game ST should use as a basis if they ever decide to make SA3. Alas, SU kills 06 in every way so I'm more interested in the Hedgehog Engine and what ST will do with it. All in all, Sonic 06 is simply unfinished and really boils down to a fan-only game. It isn't good but it's not complete trash. I have the PS3 version which came out last so maybe that's why it has less issues though I was told the game played worse on PS3. Can't really tell but the game is ok. Oh, and Heroes still beats Sunshine to a plup.sonicthemegaman

...Are you saying it's alright for SEGA to release a "beta" to the public as a finished project?

LBP and super mario galaxy are pretty much equal for me. I choose LBP though cause i haven't touched galaxy sensed I accidentally deleted my data :cry:

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] I only like Sonic 06 because unlike you, I know what it is. A beta. Sonic 06 was rushed and wasn't able to be properly finished which lead to the game infamous camera issues and incredibly short length. However, actively playing 06 is like playing the spiritual successor to the Sonic Adventure games. A lot of good ideas went into the game. A hub world, side missions, medals to collect, and of course the action stages but it didn't come out right because of the deadline. Sonic 06 is the kinda game ST should use as a basis if they ever decide to make SA3. Alas, SU kills 06 in every way so I'm more interested in the Hedgehog Engine and what ST will do with it. All in all, Sonic 06 is simply unfinished and really boils down to a fan-only game. It isn't good but it's not complete trash. I have the PS3 version which came out last so maybe that's why it has less issues though I was told the game played worse on PS3. Can't really tell but the game is ok. Oh, and Heroes still beats Sunshine to a plup.VGobbsesser

..Are you saying it's alright for SEGA to release a "beta" to the public as a finished project?