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#52 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]The shooting aspects are secondary, rpgs are ROLE PLAYING GAMES. Their primary aspect is too allow full customization and to allow choices. You think Fallout 3 should be compared to CoD or BF?parkurtommo
it cant be an rpg and an fps? i wasn't aware games could only be a part of one genre

Yeah sure they can, but comparing them to solid FPSs doesn't make any sense, it's just unfair.

not really. they're just great for different reasons.
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#53 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] OWNED you play FPS like COD which has auto aim and u claim it gunplay better yet criticizing Stalker gunplaySNIPER4321

nah, i dont play much CoD anymore. you shouldn't assume things, it just makes you look like a bigger idiot

are not u hyping black ops 2 and Halo 4??

Where are the innovations SNIPER?
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] OWNED you play FPS like COD which has auto aim and u claim it gunplay better yet criticizing Stalker gunplaySNIPER4321

nah, i dont play much CoD anymore. you shouldn't assume things, it just makes you look like a bigger idiot

are not u hyping black ops 2 and Halo 4??

Halo 4 yea but not once have i hyped BLOPS 2 :|
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#55 Raymundo_Manuel
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My favorite so far is the Borderlands series, but mainly because I have not played so many FPS games out there.

I'm sure it'd be a tougher fight if I had played through STALKER, Fallout NV, or Metro because those three games look awesome, but I just have not gotten around to them yet.

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#57 parkurtommo
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You can't really form a respectable opinion on STALKER with just 3 hours of gameplay, I was pretty much forcing myself to play the first few hours because it seemed so terrible. But I don't know when, I just sort of understood the purpose of the game and enjoyed it a lot after that... Really not good for first impressions, considering it has fairly mediocre gunplay, outdated graphics, crappy presentation. Everything is bad. But the atmosphere easily outshines any other FPS.

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#58 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]

are not u hyping black ops 2 and Halo 4??

SNIPER4321
Halo 4 yea but not once have i hyped BLOPS 2 :|

halo has terrible gunplay. it feel like we are firing a water gun. :lol:

Still waiting on the innovations list.
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#59 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]

are not u hyping black ops 2 and Halo 4??

SNIPER4321
Halo 4 yea but not once have i hyped BLOPS 2 :|

halo has terrible gunplay. it feel like we are firing a water gun. :lol:

cool opinion dude. are you mad because the Halo series has innovated more than the STALKER series?
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#60 mems_1224
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You can't really form a respectable opinion on STALKER with just 3 hours of gameplay, I was pretty much forcing myself to play the first few hours because it seemed so terrible. But I don't know when, I just sort of understood the purpose of the game and enjoyed it a lot after that... Really not good for first impressions, considering it has fairly mediocre gunplay, outdated graphics, crappy presentation. Everything is bad. But the atmosphere easily outshines any other FPS.

parkurtommo
if a game takes hours before it sucks you in then thats just terrible design. it can still be a good game but idk how it can be considered one of the best in the genre when there are so many high quality games
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#62 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] halo has terrible gunplay. it feel like we are firing a water gun. :lol:

cool opinion dude. are you mad because the Halo series has innovated more than the STALKER series?

Halo didnot innovate anything. it same since 2001. and when it was release. there were better FPS on PC.

Metro LL is the same as 2033 :lol:
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#63 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] halo has terrible gunplay. it feel like we are firing a water gun. :lol:

cool opinion dude. are you mad because the Halo series has innovated more than the STALKER series?

Halo didnot innovate anything. it same since 2001. and when it was release. there were better FPS on PC.

how would you know that if you haven't played them? do you even own an xbox? and you still haven't listed the innovations stalker made. you keep dodging the question and trying to change the subject in order to talk down on a game i like. we're all waiting for your list of stalker innovations. should be easy right?
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#64 Lief_Ericson
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] compare to typical american shooters. they bring fresh concept in FPS genre.

Why don't you tell me exactly in what they innovated?

oh really? tell me one FPS that is exactly like STALKER.

Minecraft
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#65 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

You can't really form a respectable opinion on STALKER with just 3 hours of gameplay, I was pretty much forcing myself to play the first few hours because it seemed so terrible. But I don't know when, I just sort of understood the purpose of the game and enjoyed it a lot after that... Really not good for first impressions, considering it has fairly mediocre gunplay, outdated graphics, crappy presentation. Everything is bad. But the atmosphere easily outshines any other FPS.

mems_1224
if a game takes hours before it sucks you in then thats just terrible design. it can still be a good game but idk how it can be considered one of the best in the genre when there are so many high quality games

Exactly, you don't know. Please play it some more if you want to know. :P Honestly, I think it's good design, makes the player more patient. And I can see why you don't like Dark Souls and DeS as well since they are similar in that way.
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#66 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Lief_Ericson"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Why don't you tell me exactly in what they innovated?

oh really? tell me one FPS that is exactly like STALKER.

Minecraft

Exactly like STALKER, eh? :p
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#67 Raymundo_Manuel
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

You can't really form a respectable opinion on STALKER with just 3 hours of gameplay, I was pretty much forcing myself to play the first few hours because it seemed so terrible. But I don't know when, I just sort of understood the purpose of the game and enjoyed it a lot after that... Really not good for first impressions, considering it has fairly mediocre gunplay, outdated graphics, crappy presentation. Everything is bad. But the atmosphere easily outshines any other FPS.

mems_1224

if a game takes hours before it sucks you in then thats just terrible design. it can still be a good game but idk how it can be considered one of the best in the genre when there are so many high quality games

It's not pristine perfect design, but many RPGs, and other games with a heavy emphasis on progression, begin slow simply because you start with essentially nothing; no stats, no gear, no good items, and no good weapons.

Calling it terrible game design is rather extreme.

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#68 PAL360
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Fallout 3 and New Vegas

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#69 N30F3N1X
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Exactly like STALKER, eh? :pparkurtommo

Stfu, it's the same

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#70 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

You can't really form a respectable opinion on STALKER with just 3 hours of gameplay, I was pretty much forcing myself to play the first few hours because it seemed so terrible. But I don't know when, I just sort of understood the purpose of the game and enjoyed it a lot after that... Really not good for first impressions, considering it has fairly mediocre gunplay, outdated graphics, crappy presentation. Everything is bad. But the atmosphere easily outshines any other FPS.

parkurtommo
if a game takes hours before it sucks you in then thats just terrible design. it can still be a good game but idk how it can be considered one of the best in the genre when there are so many high quality games

Exactly, you don't know. Please play it some more if you want to know. :P Honestly, I think it's good design, makes the player more patient. And I can see why you don't like Dark Souls and DeS as well since they are similar in that way.

i played dark souls for 25 hours. if it takes more than that to draw someone in then something is definitely wrong with that game :P
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#71 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] if a game takes hours before it sucks you in then thats just terrible design. it can still be a good game but idk how it can be considered one of the best in the genre when there are so many high quality games

Exactly, you don't know. Please play it some more if you want to know. :P Honestly, I think it's good design, makes the player more patient. And I can see why you don't like Dark Souls and DeS as well since they are similar in that way.

i played dark souls for 25 hours. if it takes more than that to draw someone in then something is definitely wrong with that game :P

25 hours? Yeah.. .that should be enough. o_O
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#72 Arach666
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Easily the STALKER series,New vegas was also pretty good and so was Metro.
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#74 mems_1224
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Name me 5 other FPS with 1. huge open levels 2. isn't linear 3. has an inventory and loot 4. has a quest system 5. doesn't have regenerating health, but instead uses a health system where you have to use med kits / bandages / anti rads to cure yourself. In Stalker, you can shoot and enemy, run away and hide and wait for them to bleed out (if they don't have any bandages or medkits). Stalkers world is completely unscripted, and completely dynamic. What other FPS does that?SNIPER4321
borderlands 2
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#75 Obviously_Right
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ITT: SNIPER getting owned.

Seriously just list the "innovations" bro :lol:

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#76 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Why don't you tell me exactly in what they innovated?Lief_Ericson
oh really? tell me one FPS that is exactly like STALKER.

Minecraft

Minecraft is like STALKER? :? Now SW really has gone crazy

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#77 parkurtommo
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ITT: SNIPER getting owned.

Seriously just list the "innovations" bro :lol:

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STALKER getting owned? Bro that game is better than anything else in this thread by far. Who gives a sh*t about innovation lmao.
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#78 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Name me 5 other FPS with 1. huge open levels 2. isn't linear 3. has an inventory and loot 4. has a quest system 5. doesn't have regenerating health, but instead uses a health system where you have to use med kits / bandages / anti rads to cure yourself. In Stalker, you can shoot and enemy, run away and hide and wait for them to bleed out (if they don't have any bandages or medkits). Stalkers world is completely unscripted, and completely dynamic. What other FPS does that?mems_1224
borderlands 2

Do you really want to argue that Borderlands 2 has all the things he listed? lol
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#79 platniumgamer
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it's certainly not stalker.

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#80 parkurtommo
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it's certainly not stalker.

platniumgamer
nah it's halo reach
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#81 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Name me 5 other FPS with 1. huge open levels 2. isn't linear 3. has an inventory and loot 4. has a quest system 5. doesn't have regenerating health, but instead uses a health system where you have to use med kits / bandages / anti rads to cure yourself. In Stalker, you can shoot and enemy, run away and hide and wait for them to bleed out (if they don't have any bandages or medkits). Stalkers world is completely unscripted, and completely dynamic. What other FPS does that?Nanomage
borderlands 2

Do you really want to argue that Borderlands 2 has all the things he listed? lol

its meets his criteria :P
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#82 MrYaotubo
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The STALKER games by far.
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#83 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

ITT: SNIPER getting owned.

Seriously just list the "innovations" bro :lol:

parkurtommo

STALKER getting owned? Bro that game is better than anything else in this thread by far. Who gives a sh*t about innovation lmao.

Not STALKER.

He said Metro 2033's "Russian developers" had brought "innovation" to the genre through the game, despite the fact that:

1. Metro 2033 doesn't innovate at all

2. Metro's devs aren't Russian :lol:

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#84 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] borderlands 2

Do you really want to argue that Borderlands 2 has all the things he listed? lol

its meets his criteria :P

It has some things in common sure,but it´s really nothing like Borderlands,at all,there´s really no game out there that´s quite the same as the STALKER games,especially considering what those games have to offer in the mid/late game,wich is pretty incredible. Besides,even if they were similar,STALKER came out years before Borderlands,so that would make it quite unique when it came out,and even then,it still is really.
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#85 Nanomage
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But anyway,yeah,I´d say the best answer is the Stalker games,by some margin.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Fallout 3 meets all of SNIPER4321 criteria of "innovation"?

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#87 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Name me 5 other FPS with 1. huge open levels 2. isn't linear 3. has an inventory and loot 4. has a quest system 5. doesn't have regenerating health, but instead uses a health system where you have to use med kits / bandages / anti rads to cure yourself. In Stalker, you can shoot and enemy, run away and hide and wait for them to bleed out (if they don't have any bandages or medkits). Stalkers world is completely unscripted, and completely dynamic. What other FPS does that?Nanomage
borderlands 2

Do you really want to argue that Borderlands 2 has all the things he listed? lol

It doesn't have all of those things but it's still a better game.

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#88 platniumgamer
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[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

it's certainly not stalker.

parkurtommo

nah it's halo reach

yep... halo reach is the correct answer for everything. :)

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#89 Plagueless
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Fallout 3 & New Vegas. I can't decide which. Love them both. Borderlands gets an honorable mention, and I liked Stalker as well.
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#90 NeonNinja
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Fallout: New Vegas is the best.

Metro 2033 is right behind it. But New Vegas takes the cake without any real effort here.

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Fallout 3/New Vegas.

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#92 cain006
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Either STALKER CoP or New Vegas.

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] you havenot played the game

ive played it for 3 hours. so far nothing special or innovative. just a solid game with mediocre gunplay

mediocre gunplay? let me guess "WHY it has no Auto-aim???" "why my target is not hitting enemies"??

i think it has more to do with the terrible ai... especially in stalker, the games exploration was fun but combat was like fighting a down syndrome revolution.
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#94 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

You can't really form a respectable opinion on STALKER with just 3 hours of gameplay, I was pretty much forcing myself to play the first few hours because it seemed so terrible. But I don't know when, I just sort of understood the purpose of the game and enjoyed it a lot after that... Really not good for first impressions, considering it has fairly mediocre gunplay, outdated graphics, crappy presentation. Everything is bad. But the atmosphere easily outshines any other FPS.

parkurtommo
if a game takes hours before it sucks you in then thats just terrible design. it can still be a good game but idk how it can be considered one of the best in the genre when there are so many high quality games

Exactly, you don't know. Please play it some more if you want to know. :P Honestly, I think it's good design, makes the player more patient. And I can see why you don't like Dark Souls and DeS as well since they are similar in that way.

dark souls / des pulls you in right away, stalker i never played more than 3 hours because the combat was just not fun, I couldn't imagine trying to continue playing past that point just to experience the good atmoshphere, if it was atmosphere that was the best thing in the game, they should have designed something up front ... dark souls, demon souls didn't wait to make it's atmoshphere known, it was heavy right from the beginning and the gameplay at the start didn't really turn into anything else torwards the end, it was consistently awesome from start to finish.,
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#95 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Metro 2033

soon to be Metro Last Light. All hail Russian Dvelopers. bringing innovation to FPS genre.

parkurtommo
:lol: russia :lol:

umm... yeah. Russia.

Since when did 4A become Russian???
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#96 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

it's certainly not stalker.

platniumgamer

nah it's halo reach

yep... halo reach is the correct answer for everything. :)

What's the worst game this gen? Damn, you are right.. :cool:
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#97 cain006
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] :lol: russia :lol:Mozelleple112
umm... yeah. Russia.

Since when did 4A become Russian???

Come on it's eastern europe, same diff.

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#98 Masenkoe
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New Vegas. No contest.

N30F3N1X

Seriously.

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#99 pelvist
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S.t.a.l.k.e.r, without a doubt.

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#100 WiiMan21
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Lol at SNIPER, what a joke of a user. :P

He gives us PC gamers a bad rep.