Better Hardware = Better Gameplay, Sorry sheeps

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

 these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Stumpt25

Sony and MS took real risks in pushing the envelop of technology in games. Nintendo whined and cried and then concocted the Wiimote.

History has proven that people get bored with dated graphics. People will get bored with the Wii. Bad graphics = bad gameplay. 

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

 these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Stumpt25

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Stumpt25

its not always about better gameplay, but different gameplay. This difference means a fresh experience which in turn offers more fun regularly (though highly arguable). I find the Wii to be great as a second console, or even a 1st console with a 360 added on... either way, its great fun! 

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Stumpt25

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Ngon

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics? 

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Berserker_2

Sony and MS took real risks in pushing the envelop of technology in games. Nintendo whined and cried and then concocted the Wiimote.

History has proven that people get bored with dated graphics. People will get bored with the Wii. Bad graphics = bad gameplay.

you say Sony and Microsoft took risks when they only did the usual upgrade in graphics which has been proven successful? And if your second statement is true then wouldn't it be Nintendo that was indeed taking a risk of people getting bored?

I really dont understand what you said... it seems contradictive. 

[QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Berserker_2

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics? 

not just graphics... better physics and AI

Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"

just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamers

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Flamepheonix

There aren't enough people that think SNES is the best. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but the truth is that technology must improve.

I got news for ya; The wii DOES have better hardware than its preddeccessor.

So yah, that pretty much ends your argument.

Plus R:FOM, for all its graphical goodness, doesnt really bring "Better" gameplay to the mix. Its the same old tired FPS that has been produced over and over....it might be great for Console kids but for those of us who have been playing high class FPS games on PC's for multiple generations R:FOM is just another clone with good graphics.  Its even WORSE because you have to play it with those god awful dual shock controllers which is about as accurrate as trying to hit an apple off a chimps head from 500 feet away with a sawed off shotgun.....its just an excercise in masochism.

[QUOTE="Flamepheonix"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Berserker_2

There aren't enough people that think SNES is the best. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but the truth is that technology must improve.

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Ngon

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics?

not just graphics... better physics and AI

Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"

just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamers

It's funny that the Sheep rarely post in threads that are logical. I think this is why you see much more Sony bashing. Sheep flock to the Sony bashing threads and never debate about their own console. 

[QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Berserker_2

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics?

not just graphics... better physics and AI

Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"

just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamers

It's funny that the Sheep rarely post in threads that are logical. I think this is why you see much more Sony bashing. Sheep flock to the Sony bashing threads and never debate about their own console.

Do you know what a Strawman fallacy is? Because you just committed one right there. 

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

kansasdude2009

its not always about better gameplay, but different gameplay. This difference means a fresh experience which in turn offers more fun regularly (though highly arguable). I find the Wii to be great as a second console, or even a 1st console with a 360 added on... either way, its great fun! 

Yes, and sometimes different = poorer

Prove Zelda + Wiimote has gameplay that even comes close to Oblivion.  You can't.  Because an Input deveice doesn't equate good gameplay

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Ngon

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics?

not just graphics... better physics and AI

Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"

just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamers

The Wii is not even aimed at any one group at all. Do you think a kid will play Metroid Prime 3 or RE from start to finish? Or will an adult like to play Dewy's Adventure? Or would a casual play Trauma Center? In some cases yes, but the Wii really aims for everyone...

But whatever... I dont care as long as im liking what I get! 

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Stumpt25

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

callmewaffle

its not always about better gameplay, but different gameplay. This difference means a fresh experience which in turn offers more fun regularly (though highly arguable). I find the Wii to be great as a second console, or even a 1st console with a 360 added on... either way, its great fun!

Yes, and sometimes different = poorer

Prove Zelda + Wiimote has gameplay that even comes close to Oblivion. You can't. Because an Input deveice doesn't equate good gameplay

They are not even close! Zelda is 3rd person and Oblivion is 1st... 

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Ngon

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics? 

not just graphics... better physics and AI

Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"

just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamers

^^^ flamebait :)

My 360 is my primary console. but my wii is an excellent secondary console. it provides different types of games, different ideas, it has its own different potential. i like that a company finally seperated itself from the others. also the wii graphics will look great, just way behind 360 and PS3. i have no problem with wii having xbox level graphics and beyond. thats no problem as long as A- the games are good and B- they provide a different experience. thats way im looking forward to seeing mario galaxy, metroid prime 3, resident evil umbrella chronicles, no more heroes, etc. games designed to use the wii mote. The wii is an excellent system worthy of a purchase.jg4xchamp

not just graphics... better physics and AI.Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamersNgon

Yes Resistance got a 9 in graphics but why don't you go see what Warioware:Smooth Moves got in the Graphics department.

I'm going to provide an example where Graphics = Gameplay.

Kane and Lynch.   You enter a club, pushing your way through hundreds of dancing coked up patrons, your intentions are to hide in plain sight from the bouncers and make your way upstairs.  The music changes and the dancers begin to disperse as some would rather sit down than dance to bono (joke).  Your cover is spread thin, so you have to find your way to a shady corner to remain hidden.

After you complete your upstairs business, you return to the dance floor resulting in a disasterous shootout on the dance floor where scared club-going kids are your bullet shields and cover.

Something the Wii can't do.

[QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Berserker_2

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics?

not just graphics... better physics and AI

Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"

just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamers

It's funny that the Sheep rarely post in threads that are logical. I think this is why you see much more Sony bashing. Sheep flock to the Sony bashing threads and never debate about their own console. 

This is SW - no fanboy posts anything logical. I can't see why you're pointing the finger just at nintendo fanboys-  I've yet to see a Sony fanboy or MS fanboy question their own console. Sony in particular. "Just wait until 2008!11!11"

And it's obviously clear you've never been to the Wii board. There is still the occasional thread questioning wii's power in the long term, and it's staying power particulary with its currently lackluster library (compared to 360 and PC).

But Wii is not aimed to just kids and casuals. You're getting software and hardware mixed up. Tell me an 8 year old or casual who would pick up or be allowed to pick up a Resident Evil on Wii. Same goes for Disaster, Metroid Prime 3, Manhunt 2, No More Heroes. I'm sick of idiots confusing the term 'family-friendly' with 'kiddy'.    

[QUOTE="Ngon"]not just graphics... better physics and AI.Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamersDualshockin

Thats why i have a ******* $3600 PC that can do almost anything the PS3 can, but one keyword: better.

And i really don't care for Blu-Ray so don't even bring it up ;) 

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Ngon"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

MaTT2011

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

Good poit about upgrading consoles. The same could be said of PCs. I wonder why people upgrade PCs? Maybe they like better graphics?

not just graphics... better physics and AI

Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"

just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamers

It's funny that the Sheep rarely post in threads that are logical. I think this is why you see much more Sony bashing. Sheep flock to the Sony bashing threads and never debate about their own console.

Do you know what a Strawman fallacy is? Because you just committed one right there.

Im willing to go out on a limb and say that most SW users don't know what most of the logical fallacys are.  

Which is why so many VC and XBLA games are outscoring brand new games?foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Ngon"]not just graphics... better physics and AI.Sheep need to stop using this excuse "gameplay > graphics"just admit it, wii is aim for kids and casuals gamersShadow_op

Thats why i have a ******* $3600 PC that can do almost anything the PS3 can, but one keyword: better.

And i really don't care for Blu-Ray so don't even bring it up ;)

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Which is why so many VC and XBLA games are outscoring brand new games?Dualshockin

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/adventure/castlevaniasotn/index.html?q=castlevania

Sad only 2 games on the ps3 outscore that game.. One of which is a multiplat and better on the 360. 

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Which is why so many VC and XBLA games are outscoring brand new games?Dualshockin

Did you expect everyone of them to be a masterpiece? 

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/doubledungeonstg16/review.html?sid=6168910http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/dungeonexplorertg16/review.html?sid=6168850http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/teenagemutantninjaturtles/review.html?sid=6168657http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/legendofkagenes/review.html?sid=6168159http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/newrallyx/review.html?sid=6163674http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/puzzle/luxor2/review.html?sid=6168840 There's alot more of where those came from.Dualshockin

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Ngon

if gameplay > graphics, why upgrade consoles for? you know.

even creator of wii said wii is a gamecube

This is why cows are the most unintelligent on SW. Gameplay is more important than graphics but who said graphics dont matter? EXAMPLE FOR THE DUMB, BLIND AND LAME:

Food > Shelter 

Food is more important than shelter but who said shelter doesn't matter? Shelter is important but takes a back seat in terms of need when dealing with food.

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Stumpt25

I agree that better hardware = capability for new gameplay...but if devs can't even make innovative wii games with the wiimote (how can you not!!) then what are they doing? ANyway, Gears was great but IMO its not something we havent see before. Same with RFOM. 

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Berserker_2

Sony and MS took real risks in pushing the envelop of technology in games. Nintendo whined and cried and then concocted the Wiimote.

History has proven that people get bored with dated graphics. People will get bored with the Wii. Bad graphics = bad gameplay. 

Tell that to the ps2. weakest system of last gen, still doin good 7 years later

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Marka1700

Sony and MS took real risks in pushing the envelop of technology in games. Nintendo whined and cried and then concocted the Wiimote.

History has proven that people get bored with dated graphics. People will get bored with the Wii. Bad graphics = bad gameplay. 

Tell that to the ps2. weakest system of last gen, still doin good 7 years later

 Tell that people who play Starcraft about dated graphics.. Hmm..

Tell that people who play Starcraft about dated graphics.. Hmm..ArisShadows

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/adventure/castlevaniasotn/index.html?q=castlevaniaSad only 2 games on the ps3 outscore that game.. One of which is a multiplat and better on the 360.

MTBare

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Theres been loads of sheep posts saying: Gameplay>>>>Graphics

which is extremely true, however, just because a game has good graphics are we saying that the gameplay is going to suck? hell no! think about it: GeOW, Oblivion, R:FOM

these are all great games and yet, they have nice graphics (i know im going to get 100000 posts saying "R:FOM wasnt goodgraphics!!!"... but, it was, it ss graphics scored a 9 in gamespot.)

better hardware means more room to push gameplay and graphics. AND ANYWAY, LETS ENCOURAGE DEVS TO KEEP STANDARDS HIGH! if for every game that comes out we go: Graphics dont matter! then standards are going to drop.

ty

Marka1700

Sony and MS took real risks in pushing the envelop of technology in games. Nintendo whined and cried and then concocted the Wiimote.

History has proven that people get bored with dated graphics. People will get bored with the Wii. Bad graphics = bad gameplay.

Tell that to the ps2. weakest system of last gen, still doin good 7 years later

Not only is Berserker completely and utterly wrong its seriously scary people think like that. Its seriously funny that people in the world can be so naive, biased and unintelligent. I mean, is this what I have to compete with in the world? lol.

Anyway saying bull and acting like its fact = Self owned.

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]Tell that people who play Starcraft about dated graphics.. Hmm..foxhound_fox

 It won't beat my Starcraft, but Dawn of War.

Ocarina of Time, a game from 1998, re-released on the Wii VC scores higher than all of the PS3's library except one game... :roll:foxhound_fox

One game with a good score>>>>>>>>tens of games with bad scores lol? Grasping at straws are we....Dualshockin

Yes you're right, I'M the one grasping straws. I'm the one who has one arcade game that is better than most of the ps3 games. On top of the countless retail games that pwnt the ps3 into oblivion (excuse the pun).

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Ocarina of Time, a game from 1998, re-released on the Wii VC scores higher than all of the PS3's library except one game... :roll:Dualshockin

how old are you?