Beyond: Two Souls - First gameplay and impressions

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#101 mrmusicman247
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Basically, if you liked Heavy Rain, you will like Beyond. If you didn't , you most likely won't like it.
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#102 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"][QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] They should call it an Interactive movie with QTE's, I don't think the basic requirement for being a game has been achieved, it doesn't have gameplay.

I don't get the hype... your just watching a story unfold and your just watching and occasionally hitting a button to make you feel like you have some interaction with the world, story or characters. Honestly I get why people would like this but I just don't get it. I want to play a character, have control of their movements and get absorbed in a world in a adventure game not just observe it... its really not for me.

That's exactly what a friend of mine said when he was being very skeptical about Heavy Rain being a good game. That was until he actually played it himself.

I difference being is that I played the demo for heavy rain and just wasn't interested. This just looks more of the same. I'm not knocking it but its clear that its created its own niche genre of some sort that I have no interest in, simply put doesn't interest me from a game play point of view what so ever. It may have audience and be a great game in its own right. Just not for me. I like the showing at E3 but looking at the game play... 25minutes of it. I'm not interested.
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#103 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]It's not like it's somehow more fun, or deep, to control a qte or short, nearly mentally devoid, segments that you just select for a response.CajunShooter
Who are you to say what others can find fun or not? Like I said people have different taste. One person might not like fast gameplay etc but prefer the slower pacing of an adventure game with QTEs being the "action" sequences. My friend's girlfriend would never be able to play a fast pace action game because she just isn't very good at using 360/PS3 controllers. She was able to play through Heavy Rain though and enjoy it because it was a slower paced game and had manageable QTEs that didn't immediately fail you for missing a couple.

Stop with your entitlement that all gamers prefer their gameplay to be the same kind you do.

It's not gameplay, and that's the whole issue. There are gameplay types that don't require you to be good at twitchy mechanics, such as turn based games in general.

You can enjoy it all you want, but don't call it a game.

And why bother snipping my post, it's so short, that line was in reference to the first. In the event that it had gameplay, there is no excuse for those mechanics.

Also, your friend seems to be taking advantage of the mentally handicapped, it's fine to not like games, but utterly incapable of playing any of them? If you can't play FF, you are pretty handicapped, you may not like it, but you better be able to play it.

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#104 PAL360
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Damn, PS3 reaching CGI quality visuals already :shock:

Peredith

Sony rely on one player interactive movies to pretend PS3 is more powerful than 360. Personally, i like how MS allways give priority to fun factor, open unscripted events, split screen and online coop, etc over anything else. Funny, how, despite all of that, 360 games still manage to reach PS3´s exclusives graphical level.

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#105 ispeakfact
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Knew Quantics next game would generate copious amounts of butthurt and jelly. Games are becoming more and more cinematic and movie like. If you can't accept that, stop playing games.
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#106 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"][QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"] I don't get the hype... your just watching a story unfold and your just watching and occasionally hitting a button to make you feel like you have some interaction with the world, story or characters. Honestly I get why people would like this but I just don't get it. I want to play a character, have control of their movements and get absorbed in a world in a adventure game not just observe it... its really not for me.

That's exactly what a friend of mine said when he was being very skeptical about Heavy Rain being a good game. That was until he actually played it himself.

I difference being is that I played the demo for heavy rain and just wasn't interested. This just looks more of the same. I'm not knocking it but its clear that its created its own niche genre of some sort that I have no interest in, simply put doesn't interest me from a game play point of view what so ever. It may have audience and be a great game in its own right. Just not for me. I like the showing at E3 but looking at the game play... 25minutes of it. I'm not interested.

Fair enough. :) Atleast you gave it a try. ;) For the people who've never seen Heavy Rain and don't plan to buy it i suggest that you watch this playtrough it's hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj35uRbmhhY
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#107 Inconsistancy
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Knew Quantics next game would generate copious amounts of butthurt and jelly. Games are becoming more and more cinematic and movie like. If you can't accept that, stop playing games.ispeakfact
That's to an extreme of cinematic/movie-like to the extent of not really being a game anymore(at all).
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#108 heretrix
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I rather liked Heavy Rain, I loved the atmosphere and their unique take on QTEs (although I still hate them). Also any game/story/movie featuring psychic powers is interesting to me.

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#109 Miketheman83
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Only Sony fans would pay $60 for a game without gameplay :lol:
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#111 ispeakfact
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Only Sony fans would pay $60 for a game without gameplay :lol:Miketheman83
Only lems would buy a console with no games. :cool:
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#113 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Only Sony fans would pay $60 for a game without gameplay :lol:ispeakfact
Only lems would buy a console with no games. :cool:

Only cows would buy a system for $599 with no games. Lets not forget that.

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#114 ispeakfact
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Knew Quantics next game would generate copious amounts of butthurt and jelly. Games are becoming more and more cinematic and movie like. If you can't accept that, stop playing games.Inconsistancy
That's to an extreme of cinematic/movie-like to the extent of not really being a game anymore(at all).

Yeah it is, actually. Again, games are changing and becoming pseudo movies. You can't stop it. It's been drifting in that direction for the last two gens actually. Really since games started being played with roms. Those who call Heavy Rain just a qte, didn't play it. Simple as that because if you did, there was much much more to it than qte events. Many call MGS4 a movie. I watched the Watch Dogs demo. There were parts that very much reminded me of Heavy Rain. This is the direction the industry is headed. Good luck in trying to stop it.
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#115 stvee101
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Usually I don't like QTEs,but Heavy Rain's QTE's were actually alot of fun and quite tense at times.

I think if you liked HR you'll like this,and if you didn't...well chances Beyond won't be to your taste.

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#116 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Knew Quantics next game would generate copious amounts of butthurt and jelly. Games are becoming more and more cinematic and movie like. If you can't accept that, stop playing games.ispeakfact
That's to an extreme of cinematic/movie-like to the extent of not really being a game anymore(at all).

Yeah it is, actually. Again, games are changing and becoming pseudo movies. You can't stop it. It's been drifting in that direction for the last two gens actually. Really since games started being played with roms. Those who call Heavy Rain just a qte, didn't play it. Simple as that because if you did, there was much much more to it than qte events. Many call MGS4 a movie. I watched the Watch Dogs demo. There were parts that very much reminded me of Heavy Rain. This is the direction the industry is headed. Good luck in trying to stop it.

Lol Microsoft games aren't like that. Games like Halo, Gears, Forza are all about gameplay. Thats the difference between Sony games and Microsoft games.
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#117 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Damn, PS3 reaching CGI quality visuals already :shock:

Desmonic

Sony rely on one player interactive movies to pretend PS3 is more powerful than 360. Personally, i like how MS allways give priority to fun factor, open unscripted events, split screen and online coop, etc over anything else. Funny, how, despite all of that, 360 games still manage to reach PS3´s exclusives graphical level.

??..

You haven't meet Killzone, Uncharted, God of War 3, inFamous, Resistance, Demon's Souls and even MGS4. The only games that fit your descreption of "PS3 exclusives" are Heavy Rain and now Beyond. So yeah...

"open unscripted events"... right.. Xbox 360 exclusives are sooooo open ended, they just let you do everything you want, how you want it and when you want it...:roll: Just like Halo and Gears right? Sooooooooooooooooooooooo unscripted lol

Heavy Rain, Beyond, Uncharted series and God of War series, Killzone series (the biggest flagships of PS3) are indeed very linear. Their best looking parts are usually on rail quick time events. Never said they were bad games, they are fantastic at what they are doing.

Now, Gears 3 and Halo 4 look equaly good, despite their options to play in coop with 4 players. In the case of Halo, the environments are indeed open and the battles unscripted.

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lol. "gameplay"
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#120 The_Gaming_Baby
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Worries me how surprised people are by how the game looks. Did you guys even play Heavy Rain?

I can't wait to pick up this game

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#121 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"] Only lems would buy a console with no games. :cool:Desmonic

Only cows would buy a system for $599 with no games. Lets not forget that.

True that. We really only had Ratchet, Resistance and Uncharted (not too bad, but not so great either) in the first year or so...Glad so much has changed as the years went by hehe :P

Still, if you as the same thing to the resident cows (ispeakfact for example) they shall tell you it came with Jelly or some sh*t lol I just hope neither Sony or any other company makes the "599$" mistake again though....

Yeah, I'm just amazed at how bad some peoples memories are.

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#123 Miketheman83
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Even the Last of Us demo lacked gameplay. 90% of the demo was him walking around slowly looking at the city. The other 10% was QTE's and clunky shooting mechanics.
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#124 reynal1287
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony rely on one player interactive movies to pretend PS3 is more powerful than 360. Personally, i like how MS allways give priority to fun factor, open unscripted events, split screen and online coop, etc over anything else. Funny, how, despite all of that, 360 games still manage to reach PS3´s exclusives graphical level.

PAL360

??..

You haven't meet Killzone, Uncharted, God of War 3, inFamous, Resistance, Demon's Souls and even MGS4. The only games that fit your descreption of "PS3 exclusives" are Heavy Rain and now Beyond. So yeah...

"open unscripted events"... right.. Xbox 360 exclusives are sooooo open ended, they just let you do everything you want, how you want it and when you want it...:roll: Just like Halo and Gears right? Sooooooooooooooooooooooo unscripted lol

Heavy Rain, Beyond, Uncharted series and God of War series, Killzone series (the biggest flagships of PS3) are indeed very linear. Their best looking parts are usually on rail quick time events. Never said they were bad games, they are fantastic at what they are doing.

Now, Gears 3 and Halo 4 look equaly good, despite their options to play in coop with 4 players. In the case of Halo, the environments are indeed open and the battles unscripted.

Delusional lembro,gears is linear and scipted as well(even halo is a straight path),and you've said multiple times you don't have a ps3 so how do you know? play the games then talk.

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#125 ispeakfact
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] That's to an extreme of cinematic/movie-like to the extent of not really being a game anymore(at all).

Yeah it is, actually. Again, games are changing and becoming pseudo movies. You can't stop it. It's been drifting in that direction for the last two gens actually. Really since games started being played with roms. Those who call Heavy Rain just a qte, didn't play it. Simple as that because if you did, there was much much more to it than qte events. Many call MGS4 a movie. I watched the Watch Dogs demo. There were parts that very much reminded me of Heavy Rain. This is the direction the industry is headed. Good luck in trying to stop it.

Lol Microsoft games aren't like that. Games like Halo, Gears, Forza are all about gameplay. Thats the difference between Sony games and Microsoft games.

So...you guys are no different than sheep? Waiting on two titles every two years? The difference between Sony and MS games? Sony as many...MS has close to none. :cool:
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#126 HAZE-Unit
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Looks stunning and more interesting than Hevay Rain story wise.

The first person view gameplay is interesting too.

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#127 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Oh sweet. So it looks like you're gonna be playing as the spirit. This game is gonna be epic. Games are changing, my little jelly folk. They are becoming more cinematic and pseudo movie like. Either except it, or get ready for a whole lotta butthurt.

I've never seen a movie where the main character failed to drink orange juice because I didn't press the right button. I'd rather have more stuff like the Last of Us where it might be linear but you at least decide what happens, than stuff where you just push the button on screen to make things happen. Heavy Rain is OK so far (picked it back up again when this got announced) but I don't really think I want another game in that style.
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#128 lazerface216
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I shouldn't have watched that. It reminds me just how incredibly dull QTEs are.

My hype dropped just like that.

FrozenLiquid

your hype was never up to begin with, you were ripping david in the other thread about this game. you just love to post...

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#129 HAZE-Unit
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Sony >>>>>>>> all of the negative people in this thread.

I mean my god I hope you won't be in a leading gaming company someday and some people like Quantic Dream come to you, games like Beyond and Heavy Rain won't see light of day.

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#130 RyuRanVII
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It only does interactive movies.
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#131 ispeakfact
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It only does interactive movies.RyuRanVII
It only produces jelly. :cool:
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#132 001011000101101
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Nice cut scene.
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#133 shinrabanshou
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Nice cut scene.001011000101101

Game site impressions from a closed door event:

SixthAxix

"However, at first glance, the action looked just like anything you would see in Heavy Rain. The button prompts appear in the same fashion and are just as reaction based as before. There?s one big difference though ? we were told that the entire scene was interactive. That?s right, you can actually move the player around and make the escape for yourself. The characters in Beyond are not controlled by a cutscene, but the animations are so seemless you can?t even tell unless you were actually playing it for yourself."

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#134 Zensword
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I thought this games was just Heavy Rain 2.0 but after reading some articles, it sounds interesting.

"Cage explained that there are multiple paths to follow in each scenario and that the game is not linear: "This is a sandbox," he said, just before he used Aiden to possess a sniper and shoot down three SWAT officers as they stood in position around Jodie, who was injured and crouched behind a car." Another article from Joystiq

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#136 Zensword
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Cage was eager to mention the rich action sequences and the amount of control players will have over Jodie and Aiden's every move, even when it appeared they were being controlled via cutscene or pre-determined paths. From Joystiq
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#139 Mystery_Writer
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that was really interesting. thanks for the links
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#140 casharmy
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I do not like the concept of this game. Wish they went down the path of Kara:( Maybe that will be their next project. I loved Heavy Rain. This looks too much like Heavy Rain (with all the QTEs). The story is what kills it though, it's like watching a trailer for a movie I probably won't like. Also even though I loved Heavy Rain, I don't exactly want YET ANOTHER game loaded with QTE's. Apparantly that's all this guy does. 2Chalupas

This, not much more to say on the matter.

I would have been all over this if they had stuck to that original concept. I mean why even show that demo to end up going with something like this, pff...not what I was hyped for.

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#141 navyguy21
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My hype just dropped :| I thought for sure that they would make a more interactive game. Many times in Heavy Rain i got bored because it wasnt interactive enough. When i play games, i want to PLAY them. There was more gameplay in Indigo Prophecy, not sure why they cut back in Heavy Rain.
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#143 Zensword
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]My hype just dropped :| I thought for sure that they would make a more interactive game. Many times in Heavy Rain i got bored because it wasnt interactive enough. When i play games, i want to PLAY them. There was more gameplay in Indigo Prophecy, not sure why they cut back in Heavy Rain.

Cage was eager to mention the rich action sequences and the amount of control players will have over Jodie and Aiden's every move, even when it appeared they were being controlled via cutscene or pre-determined paths. From JoystiqIt's immediately clear that Cage has internalized lessons gleaned from the criticism that his previous game, Heavy Rain, received. He takes every opportunity to remind us that, even though Beyond features QTEs, players will be constantly in direct control of the characters.The Verge
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#144 Grovilis
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I'm assuming that it mainly has to do with the fact that it's all on rails and QTEs, but I'm genuinely surprised at how impressive the graphics look. Looks good.

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#145 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="Zensword"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]My hype just dropped :| I thought for sure that they would make a more interactive game. Many times in Heavy Rain i got bored because it wasnt interactive enough. When i play games, i want to PLAY them. There was more gameplay in Indigo Prophecy, not sure why they cut back in Heavy Rain.

Cage was eager to mention the rich action sequences and the amount of control players will have over Jodie and Aiden's every move, even when it appeared they were being controlled via cutscene or pre-determined paths. From JoystiqIt's immediately clear that Cage has internalized lessons gleaned from the criticism that his previous game, Heavy Rain, received. He takes every opportunity to remind us that, even though Beyond features QTEs, players will be constantly in direct control of the characters.The Verge

To be fair, we also had control in Heavy Rain, but it was never meaningful. Im not sure i can tolerate another game where the only times i have full control are just a few compared to other games. I mean Uncharted is linear and heavily scripted, but its an abolute BLAST to play and experience. Heavy Rain? Not so much.
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#146 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="Zensword"]I thought this games was just Heavy Rain 2.0 but after reading some articles, it sounds interesting.

"Cage explained that there are multiple paths to follow in each scenario and that the game is not linear: "This is a sandbox," he said, just before he used Aiden to possess a sniper and shoot down three SWAT officers as they stood in position around Jodie, who was injured and crouched behind a car." Another article from Joystiq

Now that's really f*cking interesting. Need to see it before hype soars astronomically again.
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#147 shinrabanshou
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The new mechanics sound interesting.

I fall into the camp that enjoyed the Heavy Rain "experience" but people's criticisms of it aren't unjustified.

This sounds like it keeps most of the relative niche novelty, while addressing the "that's not a game" critique. Keen to see more of how the possession works.

Story will still probably be a clusterf*ck though.

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#148 lx_theo
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I liked Heavy Rain, and this seems to expand on it gameplay wise a bit. Interested to see more.

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#149 Swift_Boss_A
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The idea of playing a character through her young, teen and adult life definitely intrigues me, and this other world entity gameplay is just the icing on the cake. I personally have no issue with QTE based gameplay and it's not like such a drastic take on gaming is over-exposed. Im all for fresh new unconventional gameplay.... except motion controller based.

I would also like to mention that it's quite clear by the interviews with David Cage that he really prefers films, it begs the question why not just make films? But Im glad their are all these different minds in the industry at work, at least Cage comes off as genuine and not pretending to make proper expected games. This title is clearly not for everyone but like Heavy Rain there is definitely an audience out there for such a genre.
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#150 mccoyca112
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It'll be great to have another fresh breath of air. I'll probably get it when it's cheap though. I learned my lesson with heavy rain. Fun, and different, but 1/10 for replay factor.