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#3401 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Hit detection isn't perfect in this game.

mitu123

I knew that, just wondering if it has happened to anyone besides me.

I noticed it too...

Remember putting 4 rockets into one tank, lol.

I think mine usually die in 3 shots (and im sure there was no other damage to it). Its either cause I hit it in some vitals or some guy was repairing the tank yous hot lol.

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#3402 Masculus
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Aww damn. Can't play it. I have to compile a database with 3 million observations... It completely takes the juice out of the processors. Meanwhile I have to watch the damn thing goes. No void the internet can't fill in though =) .

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#3403 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"] I knew that, just wondering if it has happened to anyone besides me. argetlam00

I noticed it too...

Remember putting 4 rockets into one tank, lol.

I think mine usually die in 3 shots (and im sure there was no other damage to it). Its either cause I hit it in some vitals or some guy was repairing the tank yous hot lol.

I remember not seeing an X mark when I hit a tank.

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#3404 PC360Wii
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How on earth do you fly a jet smoothly????
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#3405 Dante2710
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I noticed it too...Remember putting 4 rockets into one tank, lol.mitu123
Yah, usually a hit from the back will disable the vehicle, and it takes 4 rpgs from the front to kill a tank (if an engineer isnt repairing it).
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#3406 Dante2710
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I remember not seeing an X mark when I hit a tank.mitu123
Yup Yup, thats whats happening to me every now and then.
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#3407 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]

Are the RPGs sort of inconsistent for anyone else? I shoot at a vehicle from the back and sometimes it doesnt register,maybe its just me.

mitu123

Hit detection isn't perfect in this game.

projectile explosives need a minimum distance before the explosive arms and detonates. Otherwise it's just gonna break apart on contact
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#3408 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]

Are the RPGs sort of inconsistent for anyone else? I shoot at a vehicle from the back and sometimes it doesnt register,maybe its just me.

wis3boi

Hit detection isn't perfect in this game.

projectile explosives need a minimum distance before the explosive arms and detonates. Otherwise it's just gonna break apart on contact

Yet I manage to do direct hits and sometimes nothing happens.

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#3409 KungfuKitten
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I was unable to knife someone today :P
Ran up behind him, and hit F, and my guy sliced and missed for some reason. The person was walking away from me but I was practically inside his pants running into him from behind. Then I had the knife in my hands and sliced 3 more times. The second time hit but didn't trigger the animation and that is how he noticed and shot me.

Hit detection is not perfect yet no, but a vast improvement over BFBC2. I never encounter the 'i shot you and you shot me' experience for one.

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#3410 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Hit detection isn't perfect in this game.

mitu123

projectile explosives need a minimum distance before the explosive arms and detonates. Otherwise it's just gonna break apart on contact

Yet I manage to do direct hits and sometimes nothing happens.

yea, but if you are too close, it's not going to explode because the charges havent had time to arm
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#3411 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]

Are the RPGs sort of inconsistent for anyone else? I shoot at a vehicle from the back and sometimes it doesnt register,maybe its just me.

wis3boi

Hit detection isn't perfect in this game.

projectile explosives need a minimum distance before the explosive arms and detonates. Otherwise it's just gonna break apart on contact

In real life yes, but not in BF3. I've killed myself couple times with SMAW or RPG, when some dude has run in front of me just when I shot.

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#3412 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Hit detection isn't perfect in this game.

Icarian

projectile explosives need a minimum distance before the explosive arms and detonates. Otherwise it's just gonna break apart on contact

In real life yes, but not in BF3. I've killed myself couple times with SMAW or RPG, when some dude has run in front of me just when I shot.

yes, that can happen, but point blank rockets, or otherwise very close shots, arent going to go through armor. Even said so in a loading screen
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#3413 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"] projectile explosives need a minimum distance before the explosive arms and detonates. Otherwise it's just gonna break apart on contactwis3boi

Yet I manage to do direct hits and sometimes nothing happens.

yea, but if you are too close, it's not going to explode because the charges havent had time to arm

I at least want an X mark knowing I hit the tank, gee.:x

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#3414 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Yet I manage to do direct hits and sometimes nothing happens.

mitu123

yea, but if you are too close, it's not going to explode because the charges havent had time to arm

I at least want an X mark knowing I hit the tank, gee.:x

that would be nice, because as is, yes it does visually look like its hit detection (which it isnt)
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yes, that can happen, but point blank rockets, or otherwise very close shots, arent going to go through armor. Even said so in a loading screenwis3boi

Haven't seen that message myself. It has to be quite close then, because I've destroyed some tanks from really short range.

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#3416 mitu123
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]yes, that can happen, but point blank rockets, or otherwise very close shots, arent going to go through armor. Even said so in a loading screenIcarian

Haven't seen that message myself. It has to be quite close then, because I've destroyed some tanks from really short range.

I destroy 2 of them around the same time, one of them was less than 10 feet from me.

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#3417 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]yes, that can happen, but point blank rockets, or otherwise very close shots, arent going to go through armor. Even said so in a loading screenIcarian

Haven't seen that message myself. It has to be quite close then, because I've destroyed some tanks from really short range.

yea im not saying its gonna do zero damage, but its a hell of a lot better if you give the rocket time to travel...Hell, even star wars battlefront had this mechanic
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

good move on the flashlights. Using them in daylight is really dumb, they're made for dark areas/night time, where they SHOULD be that blinding.

wis3boi

I notice a lot of guys are using the M249 + foregrip + flashlight and getting a lot of kills in all of the maps. They get in really close and can blind everybody no matter what the light. This shoudl balance that out real well.

oh god...the people who bumrush with the m249 are so annoying :lol:

So many try hards with that stupid gun. I was on the tower yesterday sniping and a guy was at C shooting back at me and I went down in 3 shots from it. So 2 from an SV98 is a death and 3 from an M249 is a death. Thats some bad balance.

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#3419 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"] oh god...the people who bumrush with the m249 are so annoying :lol:wis3boi

I use it. I don't use the flashlight, but a 249 with a foregrip attatchment would be pretty devistating at close ranges.

I notice that they only register about half the shots at close range. If they registered 100% of them, the 249 would be unstoppable. It's annoying but understandable.

The 249 + scope + bipod + ammo perk (200 round boxes) gets you a lot of points if you know how to properly use a 249 for suppressive fire.

heh reminds me of how much I love the suppressing fire feature in BF3. My friend saw me browsing my battlelog and goes "What? 21% accuracy? Wow that's bad" and I was like "suppression gets me the love of my teammates. And points."

21% and complaining? what are your friends? gods?
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I use it. I don't use the flashlight, but a 249 with a foregrip attatchment would be pretty devistating at close ranges.

I notice that they only register about half the shots at close range. If they registered 100% of them, the 249 would be unstoppable. It's annoying but understandable.

The 249 + scope + bipod + ammo perk (200 round boxes) gets you a lot of points if you know how to properly use a 249 for suppressive fire.

BrunoBRS

heh reminds me of how much I love the suppressing fire feature in BF3. My friend saw me browsing my battlelog and goes "What? 21% accuracy? Wow that's bad" and I was like "suppression gets me the love of my teammates. And points."

21% and complaining? what are your friends? gods?

must be that mentality of "if I see nothing I wont shoot." I fire even if it's just a guess or if I just feel like it

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#3421 BrunoBRS
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How on earth do you fly a jet smoothly????PC360Wii
practice. and not using the mouse for maneuvering lol.
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#3422 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] heh reminds me of how much I love the suppressing fire feature in BF3. My friend saw me browsing my battlelog and goes "What? 21% accuracy? Wow that's bad" and I was like "suppression gets me the love of my teammates. And points." wis3boi

21% and complaining? what are your friends? gods?

must be that mentality of "if I see nothing I wont shoot." I fire even if it's just a guess or if I just feel like it

my accuracy is 7.something % D: granted, i snipe with assault rifles/carbines and short range scopes.
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#3423 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I use it. I don't use the flashlight, but a 249 with a foregrip attatchment would be pretty devistating at close ranges.

I notice that they only register about half the shots at close range. If they registered 100% of them, the 249 would be unstoppable. It's annoying but understandable.

The 249 + scope + bipod + ammo perk (200 round boxes) gets you a lot of points if you know how to properly use a 249 for suppressive fire.

BrunoBRS

heh reminds me of how much I love the suppressing fire feature in BF3. My friend saw me browsing my battlelog and goes "What? 21% accuracy? Wow that's bad" and I was like "suppression gets me the love of my teammates. And points."

21% and complaining? what are your friends? gods?

Mine is 10% xD

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#3424 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]How on earth do you fly a jet smoothly????BrunoBRS
practice. and not using the mouse for maneuvering lol.

I actually use the mouse all the time. A joystick or gamepad is probably better but really if you just practice you'll be fine with a mouse.

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just to rub it in

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#3426 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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just to rub it in

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SAGE_OF_FIRE

lol awesome :P

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#3427 Wasdie  Moderator
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just to rub it in

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SAGE_OF_FIRE

It's beautiful.

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#3428 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"]How on earth do you fly a jet smoothly????Vaasman

practice. and not using the mouse for maneuvering lol.

I actually use the mouse all the time. A joystick or gamepad is probably better but really if you just practice you'll be fine with a mouse.

but dat dragging. the split second you spend putting the mouse back in position to pull it more is a moment you weren't turning but your target/chaser was.
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#3429 Dante2710
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Longest game so far for me.....1hr and 7 min :|
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#3430 BrunoBRS
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just to rub it in

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SAGE_OF_FIRE

if they don't put the freaking letters in the freaking maps, it'll be impossible to navigate that thing. it's already confusing enough in places like firestorm.

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#3431 mitu123
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Longest game so far for me.....1hr and 7 min :|Dante2710
How does Conquest last that long?D=

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#3432 Mystic-G
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Am I the only one that thinks the lighting for the expansion maps is dull and listless?

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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]Longest game so far for me.....1hr and 7 min :|mitu123

How does Conquest last that long?D=

I agree. A game that long would almost bore me. Thats way too long for one match

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] heh reminds me of how much I love the suppressing fire feature in BF3. My friend saw me browsing my battlelog and goes "What? 21% accuracy? Wow that's bad" and I was like "suppression gets me the love of my teammates. And points." wis3boi

21% and complaining? what are your friends? gods?

must be that mentality of "if I see nothing I wont shoot." I fire even if it's just a guess or if I just feel like it

Always be constantly dumping. Even failing getting hits is joy.

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#3435 Dante2710
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How does Conquest last that long?D=mitu123
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/3877651/1/250901935/ I tried pushing as much as i could, but there is so much i could do. Eventually i gave up and just sat at the back of the base killing jets and helicopters.
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just to rub it in

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SAGE_OF_FIRE

OUCH. This is why I'm a PC gamer.

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#3437 Am_Confucius
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[QUOTE="bleehum"] The nerf is a bit much, but they're just ridiculous right now.Wasdie

Actually for broad daylight, you shouldn't get flashed at all. I say nerf it further. It should just be a dead giveaway of your position, not blind anybody even in the slightest.

That will just make it completely worthless. I think it's a great mechanic, but a little OP as it is. Also, from a gameplay perspective, I don't see why flashlights wouldn't blind you in day light.
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#3438 Am_Confucius
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I was unable to knife someone today :P
Ran up behind him, and hit F, and my guy sliced and missed for some reason. The person was walking away from me but I was practically inside his pants running into him from behind. Then I had the knife in my hands and sliced 3 more times. The second time hit but didn't trigger the animation and that is how he noticed and shot me.

Hit detection is not perfect yet no, but a vast improvement over BFBC2. I never encounter the 'i shot you and you shot me' experience for one.

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What? Killing eachother with bullets is awesome.

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The knife is very finicky. Sometimes knifing works for me, like a round I just played in, and sometimes it doesn't.

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#3440 AcidSoldner
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How useful are the rocket pods for jets? It next up for my jet unlocks and I'm wondering if it's worth it over hear seekers.
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#3441 BrunoBRS
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I never encounter the 'i shot you and you shot me' experience for one.

KungfuKitten
i have :D though one of the times it was more like "i shot you while your RPG came in my general direction". also do stealth nades count? :P
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#3442 BrunoBRS
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How useful are the rocket pods for jets? It next up for my jet unlocks and I'm wondering if it's worth it over hear seekers.AcidSoldner
let me put it this way: you can only use heatseekers on enemies that most likely have flares to get rid of them. there's a reason people use the MG on enemy jets. rocket pods, on the other hand, are a land vehicle killing machine. aim them well and you can disable in one dive bomb, and even kill if you're good with the MG. if not, just turn around and blow up the tank together with the engie trying to repair it.
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]How useful are the rocket pods for jets? It next up for my jet unlocks and I'm wondering if it's worth it over hear seekers.BrunoBRS
let me put it this way: you can only use heatseekers on enemies that most likely have flares to get rid of them. there's a reason people use the MG on enemy jets. rocket pods, on the other hand, are a land vehicle killing machine. aim them well and you can disable in one dive bomb, and even kill if you're good with the MG. if not, just turn around and blow up the tank together with the engie trying to repair it.

Ok sweet, and yeah, I've pretty much only shot down other jets with the MG aside from a couple. I'll definitely be loading those rocket pods up then :D
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So...are the rocket pods bombs or rockets? They aren't heat seaking, are they?

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#3445 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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So...are the rocket pods bombs or rockets? They aren't heat seaking, are they?

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They're just rockets.

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#3446 Wasdie  Moderator
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So...are the rocket pods bombs or rockets? They aren't heat seaking, are they?

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They are straight fire dummy rockets like the helos.

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So...are the rocket pods bombs or rockets? They aren't heat seaking, are they?

Am_Confucius

Like the default rockets from Choppers. Just point and fire with no deviation in their path.

Damn you wasdie you beat me to it :P

Anyway I find heatseekers only good against low grade chopper pilots who are idiots or have no flares yet. Its easy points. But I haven't take down any jets with them.

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I think I'm done with guided missiles on jets, it takes three hits to kill a tank with them.
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but at the same time rocket pods suck
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#3450 wis3boi
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just to rub it in

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it's so beautiful :O