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#301 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Like I told Wasdie in the other thread, now you know how Killzone fans thought about reviewers trashing the story in KZ3 lol. But with the BF3 criticism it stretches farther than just story, from all the reviews I've been reading.

Luxen90

For real tho Treal? Were Killzone Fans really butthurt about reviewers trashing KZ3's story? I thought the campaign overall was decent, but the reviewers trashing it was justified I'd say. Mainly because I felt like GG kind of made that seem to be a "main thing" about the game. They talked a lot about improving the campaign over Killzone 3 and they also even brought in a book writer or script writer who does movies, so that's where it probably came from. Oh and MP was a disappointment too :(.

It's more about how people don't think story should be weighed so heavily in the review. That's all. I thought the SP gameplay design was better than Killzone 2, but not at your own pace, and one of the last on-rails sequences was bad, with little to no control.

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#302 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

So how come Uncharted 3 doesn't have a new thread? I mean if you close the BF3 hype thread after 3000 how come the Uncharted 3 thread hasn't closed after almost 7000? I'm sensing something here...

Ragnarok1051

I think Wasdie cares more about Battlefield 3 :P.

And I'm guessing another mod liked Forza 4 more too. :P

Sounds almost like a....

=o

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Yeah, Chris Watters just flops everything that wasn't designed for the 360.

so funny... you actually believe that. where is the humanity people?

Take a look at his record. I mean he gave ODST a 9.0 despite saying it had completely recycled multiplayer.

Every single reviewer on earth has an instance that folks dont agree... look at all the people who hated IGN yesterday now quoting IGN review of Uncharted 3 and blaming Gamespot for poor reviewing... Kevin V has had crap reviews, and Gerthsman had bad reviews and the whole definition of bad is that I DONT AGREE... so take control of your emotion and move forward knowing that every opinion in this hobby we all love so much is on even footing and only yours means more.
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#304 Bigboi500
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How many cows are gonna tell Stevo his sig is wrong in this thread? :lol:

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#305 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I think Wasdie cares more about Battlefield 3 :P.

sanim02

And I'm guessing another mod liked Forza 4 more too. :P

Really? No-way. STOP.the.Presses.:o

Something shady going on in system wars? Shutdown. The. Internet.
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#306 Alpha-Male22
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One more

:P


Reviewers really didn't hold back on the single player.

BC2's story was horrible but it was saved by its openness and destruction. Too bad about BF3

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#307 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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How many cows are gonna tell Stevo his sig is wrong in this thread? :lol:

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You know your signature is a huge success when your signature from another thread is a talking point. =D
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#308 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Actually glad GS gave it an 8.5 so that the bloody self esteem of the EA pr goes down

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#309 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I think Wasdie cares more about Battlefield 3 :P.

Stevo_the_gamer

And I'm guessing another mod liked Forza 4 more too. :P

Sounds almost like a....

=o

Nope, not that. I think that Wasdie and Adobe just like those games enough to remember and pay attention to their threads. That's not a bad thing. If I were a mod, I would have probably been paying attention to Uncharted 3's thread :lol:. That pic is lame dude.

I don't even care whether or not Uncharted 3 gets another thread. I had some good discussions in the one already there.

Wait, let me say this again: It's not a BAD thing lol.

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#310 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="jjccjj92"]Call of Duty hasn't had infinite respawning enemies since the first Modern Warfare. You know what game does, though? BF3. :lol:

commonfate

Black Ops had infinite respawning enemies.

In only a few distinct parts. Feel free to try again though. :)

Try again at what?

What was said is that CoD hasn't had infinite respawning enemies since Modern Warfare. Which is wrong to begin with, since WaW had them at every other turn. Black Ops does have them, distinct or not. I only remember two levels that had them, but they're still there...

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#311 organic_machine
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Just read the review and the score makes perfect sense. I don't know why people are damage controlling. Admit it flopped, and enjoy the great game with a great score.

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#312 Fizzman
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There is no way on Earth that MW3 can get above an 8.5 on GS.

BF3 has delievered a better MP experience. Please dont say you havent played MW3 yet. I have played it........four years ago.

The SP will be another four hour infinite respawning enemies fest with a plot that looks like it was auto generated by a computer.

fueled-system

typical I hate cod so despite me not seeing differences I will hate on it response

I hate COD because its a horrible franchise that has ruined the FPS market. I have played MW1 extensively and MW2 for about a week and it was just MW1.1.

Reviewers only want KS perks and 80000 levels to unlock Desert camo #2424242424. The SP in the COD games is the worst writing on the face of the Earth and reviewers praise its four hour campaign with a plot that makes no sense. It's one giant plot hole.

BF3 has those features now too, but fortunately Dice didnt cave and make the MP a twitch camp fest and actually promotes communication and teamwork.

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#313 topsemag55
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Actually glad GS gave it an 8.5 so that the bloody self esteem of the EA pr goes down

OB-47
8.5/10 = 85%, so how is that a bad rating?
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#314 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="commonfate"][QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

Black Ops had infinite respawning enemies.

IndianaPwns39

In only a few distinct parts. Feel free to try again though. :)

Try again at what?

What was said is that CoD hasn't had infinite respawning enemies since Modern Warfare. Which is wrong to begin with, since WaW had them at every other turn. Black Ops does have them, distinct or not. I only remember two levels that had them, but they're still there...

I second this..got very annoying

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#315 Shiroibwoy
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I guess EA isn't flying reviewers in helicopters to paradise resorts where they relax in their own hotelroom with a hooked up console and CoD like Activision does.

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#316 Luxen90
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It's more about how people don't think story should be weighed so heavily in the review. That's all. I thought the SP gameplay design was better than Killzone 2, but not at your own pace, and one of the last on-rails sequences was bad, with little to no control.

TREAL_Since
Ah okay I see what you mean and yeah, I think Killzone 3 was more "cinematic" while Killzone 2 was just a war thing. I'd probably say I enjoyed KZ3 more just because of controls.
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#317 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] And I'm guessing another mod liked Forza 4 more too. :PTREAL_Since

Sounds almost like a....

=o

Nope, not that. I think those Wasdie and Adobe just like those games enough to remember and pay attention to their threads. That's not a bad thing. If I were a mod, I would have been paying attention to Uncharted 3's thread :lol:. The pic is lame dude.

Wait, let me say this again: It's not a BAD thing lol.

Mayne, it ain't a bad thing, I mean it's pretty obvious.:P It's practically an open book, just like good ol' Steven's agenda.:lol:

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#318 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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8.5 at Gamespot--it will be the day that the tears from BF fans will flow like the amazon!

Stevo_the_gamer

Page 1 of the hype thread.

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#319 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="commonfate"][QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

Black Ops had infinite respawning enemies.

IndianaPwns39

In only a few distinct parts. Feel free to try again though. :)

Try again at what?

What was said is that CoD hasn't had infinite respawning enemies since Modern Warfare. Which is wrong to begin with, since WaW had them at every other turn. Black Ops does have them, distinct or not. I only remember two levels that had them, but they're still there...

To be fair, COD's campaign is all about an action-movie esque feel and tight linear gunplay which progresses at a rapid pace. The infinitely respawning enemies are simply a gameplay mechanic to harbor that (much like Uncharted relies on big set pieces to aid narrative). Not saying I love it, but there's a reason why it's done.
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#320 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

How many cows are gonna tell Stevo his sig is wrong in this thread? :lol:

Stevo_the_gamer
You know your signature is a huge success when your signature from another thread is a talking point. =D

I could also spark discussion if I post inaccurate information but what's the point other than attract attention?
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#321 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

How many cows are gonna tell Stevo his sig is wrong in this thread? :lol:

Stevo_the_gamer
You know your signature is a huge success when your signature from another thread is a talking point. =D

agreed, plus did anyone notice stevos sig is wrong? :) System Wars be crazy tonight....!
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#322 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Actually glad GS gave it an 8.5 so that the bloody self esteem of the EA pr goes down

topsemag55
8.5/10 = 85%, so how is that a bad rating?

They're comparing it to the ratings COD gets. They're crying, "It's not fair!" Surprising how big of a deal 0.5 difference makes.
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#323 enterawesome
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Well, this thread seems a lot less blood thirsty than I thought it would be. And people are up-in-arms about UC3 getting a 9? SW makes me sad, people never get mad about the games I want them to. :(
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#324 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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It's not a BAD thing lol.

TREAL_Since

It's a glorious thing!

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#325 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Actually glad GS gave it an 8.5 so that the bloody self esteem of the EA pr goes down

topsemag55

8.5/10 = 85%, so how is that a bad rating?

not a bad reading on it's own. But COD scored higher, and we know the EA pr was really shooting down COD.

Still, this game is immensly better online. It looks so damn good I'm getting a computer just to play it.

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#326 GodofBigMacs
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I sort of expected this in the recent days. After hearing about campaign's shortcomings, I saw this coming because GS seems to value single player more than other reviewers. This said, I'm expecting same score or lower from MW3.
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#327 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

There is no way on Earth that MW3 can get above an 8.5 on GS.

BF3 has delievered a better MP experience. Please dont say you havent played MW3 yet. I have played it........four years ago.

The SP will be another four hour infinite respawning enemies fest with a plot that looks like it was auto generated by a computer.

Fizzman

typical I hate cod so despite me not seeing differences I will hate on it response

I hate COD because its a horrible franchise that has ruined the FPS market. I have played MW1 extensively and MW2 for about a week and it was just MW1.1.

Reviewers only want KS perks and 80000 levels to unlock Desert camo #2424242424. The SP in the COD games is the worst writing on the face of the Earth and reviewers praise its four hour campaign with a plot that makes no sense. It's one giant plot hole.

BF3 has those features now too, but fortunately Dice didnt cave and make the MP a twitch camp fest and actually promotes communication and teamwork.

It killed fps? You mean developers who copied COD did

No developer is trying for innovation. By your logic halo should also be despised and any other game that included health regen, messaging, coop etc

The single player was fine again your hatred is showing there.

And lol at camp fest have you even played bf3? it is far more of a camp fest then cod is.

And not to mention there has been zero teamwork from what I seen

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#328 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

8.5 at Gamespot--it will be the day that the tears from BF fans will flow like the amazon!

Stevo_the_gamer

Page 1 of the hype thread.

Lol. We could avoid this drama if the acceptable review score for games wasn't between 9 and 10. :P
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#329 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

Actually glad GS gave it an 8.5 so that the bloody self esteem of the EA pr goes down

ActionRemix
8.5/10 = 85%, so how is that a bad rating?

They're comparing it to the ratings COD gets. They're crying, "It's not fair!" Surprising how big of a deal 0.5 difference makes.

i think it's less "it's 0.5 lower" and more "they think BF is inferior to CoD".
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#330 commonfate
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I guess EA isn't flying reviewers in helicopters to paradise resorts where they relax in their own hotelroom with a hooked up console and CoD like Activision does.

Shiroibwoy
Maybe it's just an inferior game? :)
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#331 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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just like good ol' Steven's agenda.:lol:

sanim02

I have an agenda in the BF3 hype thread? Well, besides collecting all of Wasdie's tears, I am going to enjoy this thread very much. =D

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#332 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="commonfate"] In only a few distinct parts. Feel free to try again though. :)Ravensmash

Try again at what?

What was said is that CoD hasn't had infinite respawning enemies since Modern Warfare. Which is wrong to begin with, since WaW had them at every other turn. Black Ops does have them, distinct or not. I only remember two levels that had them, but they're still there...

To be fair, COD's campaign is all about an action-movie esque feel and tight linear gunplay which progresses at a rapid pace. The infinitely respawning enemies are simply a gameplay mechanic to harbor that (much like Uncharted relies on big set pieces to aid narrative). Not saying I love it, but there's a reason why it's done.

I'm not attacking the idea, exactly. It was super annoying on Veteran in WaW because of the grenade spam but other than that it was never game breaking for me.

I'm just pointing out that it was said CoD hasn't had infinite enemies since MW and that was incorrect since Black Ops had them :P

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#333 fueled-system
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Well, this thread seems a lot less blood thirsty than I thought it would be. And people are up-in-arms about UC3 getting a 9? SW makes me sad, people never get mad about the games I want them to. :(enterawesome
people were upset that tom nitpicked.


BF3 review was fine the uc3 review was meh

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#334 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Shiroibwoy"]

I guess EA isn't flying reviewers in helicopters to paradise resorts where they relax in their own hotelroom with a hooked up console and CoD like Activision does.

commonfate
Maybe it's just an inferior game? :)

hmm... i'll go with "no". :P
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#335 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

Actually glad GS gave it an 8.5 so that the bloody self esteem of the EA pr goes down

OB-47

8.5/10 = 85%, so how is that a bad rating?

not a bad reading on it's own. But COD scored higher, and we know the EA pr was really shooting down COD.

Still, this game is immensly better online. It looks so damn good I'm getting a computer just to play it.

Not to mention Nvidia released a WHQL driver specifically for this game. I am impressed by some of the visuals, I have to admit.
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#336 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Nope, not that. I think that Wasdie and Adobe just like those games enough to remember and pay attention to their threads. That's not a bad thing. If I were a mod, I would have probably been paying attention to Uncharted 3's thread . That pic is lame dude.


I don't even care whether or not Uncharted 3 gets another thread. I had some good discussions in the one already there.

Wait, let me say this again: It's not a BAD thing lol.

Stevo_the_gamer

It's a glorious thing!

You know what would really be a glorious thing? When MW3 outscores BF3. Not just because it's COD, but because it's, you know, better :P.

Sanim, I can't wait for my free PSN game!

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#337 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]just like good ol' Steven's agenda.:lol:

Stevo_the_gamer

I have an agenda in the BF3 hype thread? Well, besides collecting all of Wasdie's tears, I am going to enjoy this thread very much. =D

you need a special recepticle or else they lose their magic properties.
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#338 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

I think Wasdie cares more about Battlefield 3 :P.

Stevo_the_gamer

And I'm guessing another mod liked Forza 4 more too. :P

Sounds almost like a....

=o

Oh Steven. You and your conspiracies. You never rest do you?

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#339 commonfate
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[QUOTE="commonfate"][QUOTE="Shiroibwoy"]

I guess EA isn't flying reviewers in helicopters to paradise resorts where they relax in their own hotelroom with a hooked up console and CoD like Activision does.

BrunoBRS
Maybe it's just an inferior game? :)

hmm... i'll go with "no". :P

Bruno you know by now that SW doesn't work like that :P Scores are the only thing that corelate to how good a game is. Personal opinion does not matter! :x
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#340 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="topsemag55"] 8.5/10 = 85%, so how is that a bad rating?

They're comparing it to the ratings COD gets. They're crying, "It's not fair!" Surprising how big of a deal 0.5 difference makes.

i think it's less "it's 0.5 lower" and more "they think BF is inferior to CoD".

Being a reviewer must be such a hard job. For big games, politics are important and they have to rate high. That's why Gamespot can hand out 5.5's for lesser known series like Ace Combat but must rate COD 8.5+
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#341 illmatic87
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Let me guess: Everyone is on the same boring anti-CoD sentiments after this 8.5?
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#342 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]typical I hate cod so despite me not seeing differences I will hate on it response

fueled-system

I hate COD because its a horrible franchise that has ruined the FPS market. I have played MW1 extensively and MW2 for about a week and it was just MW1.1.

Reviewers only want KS perks and 80000 levels to unlock Desert camo #2424242424. The SP in the COD games is the worst writing on the face of the Earth and reviewers praise its four hour campaign with a plot that makes no sense. It's one giant plot hole.

BF3 has those features now too, but fortunately Dice didnt cave and make the MP a twitch camp fest and actually promotes communication and teamwork.

It killed fps? You mean developers who copied COD did

No developer is trying for innovation. By your logic halo should also be despised and any other game that included health regen, messaging, coop etc

The single player was fine again your hatred is showing there.

And lol at camp fest have you even played bf3? it is far more of a camp fest then cod is.

And not to mention there has been zero teamwork from what I seen

Try playing Conquest and not Rush which is not what the BF series was designed for.

How on Earth is BF3 more campy than COD which uses maps the size of my two car garage? What an absolutely hilarious thing to say.

The story in COD games are incredibly one dimensional and minimal effort is put in putting together a coherent story. Ohhh man, but look at the nuke making my helicopter crash. WHAT A GREAT SP!!!!!!!!!!

Here is a typical COD BLOPS MP lobby.

VOTE FOR NUKE TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ohh look i spawned and if i walf for three seconds i can see the enemy. Better yet if i throw a grenade, i will get a triple kill and get my Chopper Gunner and watch a movie while i "out play everyone.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Nope, not that. I think that Wasdie and Adobe just like those games enough to remember and pay attention to their threads. That's not a bad thing. If I were a mod, I would have probably been paying attention to Uncharted 3's thread . That pic is lame dude.


I don't even care whether or not Uncharted 3 gets another thread. I had some good discussions in the one already there.

Wait, let me say this again: It's not a BAD thing lol.

TREAL_Since

It's a glorious thing!

You know what would really be a glorious thing? When MW3 outscores BF3. Not just because it's COD, but because it's, you know, better :P.

Sanim, I can't wait for my free PSN game!

Don't remind me you... :x Man I'm going to bed, screw y'all! Damnit GS, now I gotta spend money!

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#344 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]just like good ol' Steven's agenda.:lol:

Stevo_the_gamer

I have an agenda in the BF3 hype thread? Well, besides collecting all of Wasdie's tears, I am going to enjoy this thread very much. =D

LMFAO! Aww poor Wasdie. He probably went to go play the game to release some stress. I haven't seen him here much after the review. I know he knows the game is amazing though.

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/p>

Oh Steven. You and your conspiracies. You never rest do you?

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I just came back from a wonderful nap actually. :]
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#346 spookykid143
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Let me guess: Everyone is on the same boring anti-CoD sentiments after this 8.5?illmatic87
Pretty much.

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#347 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"] 8.5/10 = 85%, so how is that a bad rating?topsemag55

not a bad reading on it's own. But COD scored higher, and we know the EA pr was really shooting down COD.

Still, this game is immensly better online. It looks so damn good I'm getting a computer just to play it.

Not to mention Nvidia released a WHQL driver specifically for this game. I am impressed by some of the visuals, I have to admit.

They are fantastic, and if the game was reviewed on the MAIN REASON people are buying it, and something that is a BF trademark; multiplayer, then Bf3 might score higher. But because they looked at it as the whole package, thanks to the rather lacklustre campaign (DICE really doesn't know how to make campaigns exciting) I think that's why it scored lower than COD.

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#348 h575309
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=o

Stevo_the_gamer

Is that wasdie with his underwear on his head?

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#349 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] And I'm guessing another mod liked Forza 4 more too. :PRagnarok1051

Sounds almost like a....

=o

Oh Steven. You and your conspiracies. You never rest do you?

Dem tears son, dem tears. It's like mope.:P (mooo (cows) + dope, ehh ehhh?:P)

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Let me guess: Everyone is on the same boring anti-CoD sentiments after this 8.5?illmatic87
Didn't you hear? There is no more hope for the industry now :P Not my words ^