BF4 PS4 has 64 player battlers...60fps

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#51 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]720p on med-high settings.

mitu123

You just randomply pulled that out of your ass, I have not seen any official specs of BF4 on any next gen console.  If its at at mid-high settings at 720p it will have the pleasure of being the worst next gen title visually on either console.

I go by experience, and no way the console versions will be at Ultra, that would require 4xMSAA which is gpu intensive and Ultra on Shadows which is cpu intensive. Med-high makes the most sense with 64 players and 60FPS.

They should have no problem hitting ultra settings at 1080p if they did 30fps.  But even if they bump it up to 60 it should be higher then medium .  Current consoles ran it at lowest settings at clos to 720p.  64 players was a problem for the current consoels because lack of ram.

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#52 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Still not 1080p. lostrib

who gives a shit

the asshats who thought it would be 1080p 60fps on PS4

I don't know who these asshats were. Most people thought it would be 720 @ 60fps or 1080p @30fps. Frankly I'm happier with 720p @ 60fps on PS4 'cos I'd rather have higher framerate than higher res.
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#53 Shewgenja
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Was there ever any doubt?  Sure would suck if the PS4 couldn't handle a game well at the start of a generation.

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#54 clyde46
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

You just randomply pulled that out of your ass, I have not seen any official specs of BF4 on any next gen console.  If its at at mid-high settings at 720p it will have the pleasure of being the worst next gen title visually on either console.

AM-Gamer

I go by experience, and no way the console versions will be at Ultra, that would require 4xMSAA which is gpu intensive and Ultra on Shadows which is cpu intensive. Med-high makes the most sense with 64 players and 60FPS.

They should have no problem hitting ultra settings at 1080p if they did 30fps.  But even if they bump it up to 60 it should be higher then medium .  Current consoles ran it at lowest settings at clos to 720p.  64 players was a problem for the current consoels because lack of ram.

Not with that shit-tier hardware.
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#55 lostrib
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

You just randomply pulled that out of your ass, I have not seen any official specs of BF4 on any next gen console.  If its at at mid-high settings at 720p it will have the pleasure of being the worst next gen title visually on either console.

AM-Gamer

I go by experience, and no way the console versions will be at Ultra, that would require 4xMSAA which is gpu intensive and Ultra on Shadows which is cpu intensive. Med-high makes the most sense with 64 players and 60FPS.

They should have no problem hitting ultra settings at 1080p if they did 30fps.  But even if they bump it up to 60 it should be higher then medium .  Current consoles ran it at lowest settings at clos to 720p.  64 players was a problem for the current consoels because lack of ram.

not sure they even got to the lowest PC settings 

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#56 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]I go by experience, and no way the console versions will be at Ultra, that would require 4xMSAA which is gpu intensive and Ultra on Shadows which is cpu intensive. Med-high makes the most sense with 64 players and 60FPS.

lostrib

They should have no problem hitting ultra settings at 1080p if they did 30fps.  But even if they bump it up to 60 it should be higher then medium .  Current consoles ran it at lowest settings at clos to 720p.  64 players was a problem for the current consoels because lack of ram.

not sure they even got to the lowest PC settings 

Now you're just reaching. :P I have 2 copies of BF3 on PC and on PS3. The PS3 version ran at the lowest PC settings for sure.
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#57 lowe0
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] And? I'm a paying customer, the product does not fit my needs so I will not be buying it.

$60 lost. Not exactly worth changing their plans over.

And? Why are you accepting 720p in 2013? How long have you had a 1080p HDTV? Isn't it about time games took advantage of that?

About 7 years. But no, I don't think game developers have to cater solely to me. If I want to play a game with a Battlefield-sized budget, then I accept that I'm not the only one they'll have in mind when they make it.
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#58 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

You just randomply pulled that out of your ass, I have not seen any official specs of BF4 on any next gen console.  If its at at mid-high settings at 720p it will have the pleasure of being the worst next gen title visually on either console.

AM-Gamer

I go by experience, and no way the console versions will be at Ultra, that would require 4xMSAA which is gpu intensive and Ultra on Shadows which is cpu intensive. Med-high makes the most sense with 64 players and 60FPS.

They should have no problem hitting ultra settings at 1080p if they did 30fps.  But even if they bump it up to 60 it should be higher then medium .  Current consoles ran it at lowest settings at clos to 720p.  64 players was a problem for the current consoels because lack of ram.

Yeah that's why I also say it has high settings in areas.
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still have to get it for ps4 tho.....my 670black did not handle Bf3 well at all....to the point to wher ei had to put back in my 560ti
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#60 lostrib
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still have to get it for ps4 tho.....my 670black did not handle Bf3 well at all....to the point to wher ei had to put back in my 560tistereointegrity

my 670 handles bf3 fine

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#61 clyde46
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"] $60 lost. Not exactly worth changing their plans over.

And? Why are you accepting 720p in 2013? How long have you had a 1080p HDTV? Isn't it about time games took advantage of that?

About 7 years. But no, I don't think game developers have to cater solely to me. If I want to play a game with a Battlefield-sized budget, then I accept that I'm not the only one they'll have in mind when they make it.

I bet you were one of those people who said we didn't need colour TV.
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#62 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Still not 1080p. Mrmedia01

 

Who cares. 720P 60fps will be good enough with 64 players for us BIG SCREEN console gamers. Please no PC & console fighting right now lol. Its to early for that crap.

PC's cant use big screens?

And lol at 720p what is it, 2006.

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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]still have to get it for ps4 tho.....my 670black did not handle Bf3 well at all....to the point to wher ei had to put back in my 560tilostrib

my 670 handles bf3 fine

which 670
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#64 lowe0
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="clyde46"] And? Why are you accepting 720p in 2013? How long have you had a 1080p HDTV? Isn't it about time games took advantage of that?

About 7 years. But no, I don't think game developers have to cater solely to me. If I want to play a game with a Battlefield-sized budget, then I accept that I'm not the only one they'll have in mind when they make it.

I bet you were one of those people who said we didn't need colour TV.

Since I was born well after its invention, you'd be wrong. More to the point, I have no problem with sponsoring innovation - I'd love to get my hands on a Tesla, or on a more attainable note, I plan on getting an Oculus Rift when the consumer versions are available - but it absolutely has to provide value. I'm not interested in more pixels just to have more pixels.
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#65 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

60FPS? Nice! Is it 1080p though? Or just 720p up-scaled to 1080p?

mitu123

720p on med-high settings.

Not even max settings at 720p? :shock:.

 

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#66 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]still have to get it for ps4 tho.....my 670black did not handle Bf3 well at all....to the point to wher ei had to put back in my 560tistereointegrity

my 670 handles bf3 fine

which 670

EVGA FTW

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#67 mitu123
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still have to get it for ps4 tho.....my 670black did not handle Bf3 well at all....to the point to wher ei had to put back in my 560tistereointegrity
WTF? Even one of my EVGA SC 4GB 670s handled it alone.O_o

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#68 lostrib
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lowe0"] About 7 years. But no, I don't think game developers have to cater solely to me. If I want to play a game with a Battlefield-sized budget, then I accept that I'm not the only one they'll have in mind when they make it.lowe0
I bet you were one of those people who said we didn't need colour TV.

Since I was born well after its invention, you'd be wrong.

Wow, you suck

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HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

 

720p.

 

Oh, poor consolites. Not. Lol!

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

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#70 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

my 670 handles bf3 fine

lostrib

which 670

EVGA FTW

the 2gb i take it.....i got the 4gig and it does not like bf3
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#71 Mr-Kutaragi
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lol so much nerd rage in thread over one multiplat launch game. Please do not cry.
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#72 Snugenz
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lol so much nerd rage in thread over one multiplat launch game. Please do not cry.Mr-Kutaragi

Who's crying?.

We're not the ones that have to play the game at 720p with med-high settings :lol:

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#73 menes777
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

 

720p.

 

Oh, poor consolites. Not. Lol!

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

Kinthalis

That's funny considering that 720p was available on PC in the late 90's.  

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Better on xboxWON! 

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#75 Nengo_Flow
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I rather have 60 fps with 1080p, than 30fps 1080p.
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#76 Snugenz
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I rather have 60 fps with 1080p, than 30fps 1080p.Nengo_Flow

:?

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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]I rather have 60 fps with 1080p, than 30fps 1080p.Snugenz

:?

:lol:

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#78 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I'm not interested in more pixels just to have more pixels.lowe0

*ahem*

Let's all take a moment to really talk about Lowe0. This is the guy saying 720p and 60fps is fine when he said before he returned his copy of Dishonored on PC because it didn't support 3 monitors properly. Then went and bought the 360 to play instead of the PC one cos it was apparently 3 monitors or bust for him.

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#79 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] I'm not interested in more pixels just to have more pixels.seanmcloughlin

*ahem*

Let's all take a moment to really talk about Lowe0. This is the guy saying 720p and 60fps is fine when he said before he returned his copy of Dishonored on PC because it didn't support 3 monitors properly. Then went and bought the 360 to play instead of the PC one cos it was apparently 3 monitors or bust for him.

That's some of the most facepalm worthy shit i've seen on here in a while, can't believe he actually did that. :shock:

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#80 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

*ahem*

Let's all take a moment to really talk about Lowe0. This is the guy saying 720p and 60fps is fine when he said before he returned his copy of Dishonored on PC because it didn't support 3 monitors properly. Then went and bought the 360 to play instead of the PC one cos it was apparently 3 monitors or bust for him.

Snugenz

That's some of the most facepalm worthy shit i've seen on here in a while, can't believe he actually did that. :shock:

Really wish I had the thread on hand, can't even remember what thread it was in. But he most definitely said it. Other people called him on it too

EDIT: Oh and it gets better. There was a user fix created to make it work on 3 monitors but he said it wasn't good enough 

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#81 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Since I was born well after its invention, you'd be wrong. More to the point, I have no problem with sponsoring innovation - I'd love to get my hands on a Tesla, or on a more attainable note, I plan on getting an Oculus Rift when the consumer versions are available - but it absolutely has to provide value. I'm not interested in more pixels just to have more pixels.seanmcloughlin

*ahem*

Let's all take a moment to really talk about Lowe0. This is the guy saying 720p and 60fps is fine when he said before he returned his copy of Dishonored on PC because it didn't support 3 monitors properly. Then went and bought the 360 to play instead of the PC one cos it was apparently 3 monitors or bust for him.

Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?
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#82 Mr-Kutaragi
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]lol so much nerd rage in thread over one multiplat launch game. Please do not cry.Snugenz

Who's crying?.

We're not the ones that have to play the game at 720p with med-high settings :lol:

Can you not read thread to see who is crying? I see gamer argue over unimpressive launch title that is multiplat to 5 system. Of course they do not optimize for next gen system when meeting launch and develop for many system. Launch title are never impressive performance, look at 360 launch game compare to later. Why waste resource optimize for version that will not sell so much, next gen console will only have few million userbase in first quarters. Sometimes, gamer should use logic. I guess too much to ask of gamespot user.
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Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?lowe0

have you noticed that you're awful

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#84 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

*ahem*

Let's all take a moment to really talk about Lowe0. This is the guy saying 720p and 60fps is fine when he said before he returned his copy of Dishonored on PC because it didn't support 3 monitors properly. Then went and bought the 360 to play instead of the PC one cos it was apparently 3 monitors or bust for him.

lowe0

Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?

Ok let's say that's still there. How would 3 monitors add more value to the gaming experience? you're saying 1080p idn't needed cos it doesn't add anything more but why does 3 monitors?

Also it's almost moot cos you said you went and got the 360 version to play instead which is factually a worse version with no ability to EVER support 3 monitors. How does that make sense at all? Doesn't play PC version for lack of 3 Monitor support (which was fixed) but goes and buys the 360 version instead of waiting for a proper fix 

If anyone else said the things you said you would have a field day calling them on their shit. 

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#85 mitu123
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ITT: People still argue with lowe0 even though he's a troll.

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#86 ProjectPat187
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lol PC has been running this game with 64 players at 1080p and higher res since the first battlefield game came out in the entire series LOL Atleast the consoles are almost catching up. But still have years to go, thats right YEARS!!!
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#87 glez13
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

*ahem*

Let's all take a moment to really talk about Lowe0. This is the guy saying 720p and 60fps is fine when he said before he returned his copy of Dishonored on PC because it didn't support 3 monitors properly. Then went and bought the 360 to play instead of the PC one cos it was apparently 3 monitors or bust for him.

lowe0

Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?

Actually I would say that the second quote is the one that made you look bad. The first one was mostly unnecessary, probably just adding salt to the wounds. The second one is the one that needs elaboration.

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#88 lonewolf604
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Not 1080p huh? I guess consoles will never enter that virgin territory...... And by virgin territory I mean all the hermits.
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#89 lostrib
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Not 1080p huh? I guess consoles will never enter that virgin territory...... And by virgin territory I mean all the hermits. lonewolf604

well i would hope that all that children who own consoles are also virgins

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#90 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Not 1080p huh? I guess consoles will never enter that virgin territory...... And by virgin territory I mean all the hermits. lonewolf604

Hey look it's an insult from 10 years ago

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#91 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

seanmcloughlin

Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?

Ok let's say that's still there. How would 3 monitors add more value to the gaming experience? you're saying 1080p idn't needed cos it doesn't add anything more but why does 3 monitors?

Also it's almost moot cos you said you went and got the 360 version to play instead which is factually a worse version with no ability to EVER support 3 monitors. How does that make sense at all? Doesn't play PC version for lack of 3 Monitor support (which was fixed) but goes and buys the 360 version instead of waiting for a proper fix 

If anyone else said the things you said you would have a field day calling them on their shit. 

I already did address how 3 monitors would add value: a wider field of view. But that presumes that I dedicate a space entirely to that. Let's approach this from an entirely different perspective for a moment. Suppose for a second that we take platform out of it: consider a PC in one's living room. Are they going to set up 3 televisions in order to get triple monitor? No. Setting cost aside, it's simply not practical - you still have to use that room as a living room, den, etc. - that space is shared among the entire household and whatever myriad uses they have for said space. So, it's simply not practical. So where's the line for practicality? How do normal people have their furniture set up, and how large of televisions do they have? Well, let's assume we're all normal people here. As I've previously invited other posters to do, grab a tape measure and head out to your living room. Measure the distance between your eyes in your normal seating position, and the screen (thanks to my lovely wife, I can establish this as 11 feet as of this exact instant). Then look it up on a chart vs. your screen size, or break out a calculator and do the math yourself (20/20 vision can resolve details of one arc minute). Are you getting full 1080p in your living room setup? If not, then why bother wasting resources on it?
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#92 lostrib
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?lowe0

Ok let's say that's still there. How would 3 monitors add more value to the gaming experience? you're saying 1080p idn't needed cos it doesn't add anything more but why does 3 monitors?

Also it's almost moot cos you said you went and got the 360 version to play instead which is factually a worse version with no ability to EVER support 3 monitors. How does that make sense at all? Doesn't play PC version for lack of 3 Monitor support (which was fixed) but goes and buys the 360 version instead of waiting for a proper fix 

If anyone else said the things you said you would have a field day calling them on their shit. 

I already did address how 3 monitors would add value: a wider field of view. But that presumes that I dedicate a space entirely to that. Let's approach this from an entirely different perspective for a moment. Suppose for a second that we take platform out of it: consider a PC in one's living room. Are they going to set up 3 televisions in order to get triple monitor? No. Setting cost aside, it's simply not practical - you still have to use that room as a living room, den, etc. - that space is shared among the entire household and whatever myriad uses they have for said space. So, it's simply not practical. So where's the line for practicality? How do normal people have their furniture set up, and how large of televisions do they have? Well, let's assume we're all normal people here. As I've previously invited other posters to do, grab a tape measure and head out to your living room. Measure the distance between your eyes in your normal seating position, and the screen (thanks to my lovely wife, I can establish this as 11 feet as of this exact instant). Then look it up on a chart vs. your screen size, or break out a calculator and do the math yourself (20/20 vision can resolve details of one arc minute). Are you getting full 1080p in your living room setup? If not, then why bother wasting resources on it?

tl;dr  lowe is boring

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?lowe0

Ok let's say that's still there. How would 3 monitors add more value to the gaming experience? you're saying 1080p idn't needed cos it doesn't add anything more but why does 3 monitors?

Also it's almost moot cos you said you went and got the 360 version to play instead which is factually a worse version with no ability to EVER support 3 monitors. How does that make sense at all? Doesn't play PC version for lack of 3 Monitor support (which was fixed) but goes and buys the 360 version instead of waiting for a proper fix 

If anyone else said the things you said you would have a field day calling them on their shit. 

I already did address how 3 monitors would add value: a wider field of view. But that presumes that I dedicate a space entirely to that. Let's approach this from an entirely different perspective for a moment. Suppose for a second that we take platform out of it: consider a PC in one's living room. Are they going to set up 3 televisions in order to get triple monitor? No. Setting cost aside, it's simply not practical - you still have to use that room as a living room, den, etc. - that space is shared among the entire household and whatever myriad uses they have for said space. So, it's simply not practical. So where's the line for practicality? How do normal people have their furniture set up, and how large of televisions do they have? Well, let's assume we're all normal people here. As I've previously invited other posters to do, grab a tape measure and head out to your living room. Measure the distance between your eyes in your normal seating position, and the screen (thanks to my lovely wife, I can establish this as 11 feet as of this exact instant). Then look it up on a chart vs. your screen size, or break out a calculator and do the math yourself (20/20 vision can resolve details of one arc minute). Are you getting full 1080p in your living room setup? If not, then why bother wasting resources on it?

Wth does all that have to do with you being a total hypocrite with the Dishonored situation.

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Anyone else notice that when you put back the part of the post that was cut out, about being fine with innovation when it actually adds value (say, a wider field of view), that it doesn't sound so bad anymore? Almost like it was consciously edited just to look that way?lowe0

Ok let's say that's still there. How would 3 monitors add more value to the gaming experience? you're saying 1080p idn't needed cos it doesn't add anything more but why does 3 monitors?

Also it's almost moot cos you said you went and got the 360 version to play instead which is factually a worse version with no ability to EVER support 3 monitors. How does that make sense at all? Doesn't play PC version for lack of 3 Monitor support (which was fixed) but goes and buys the 360 version instead of waiting for a proper fix 

If anyone else said the things you said you would have a field day calling them on their shit. 

I already did address how 3 monitors would add value: a wider field of view. But that presumes that I dedicate a space entirely to that. Let's approach this from an entirely different perspective for a moment. Suppose for a second that we take platform out of it: consider a PC in one's living room. Are they going to set up 3 televisions in order to get triple monitor? No. Setting cost aside, it's simply not practical - you still have to use that room as a living room, den, etc. - that space is shared among the entire household and whatever myriad uses they have for said space. So, it's simply not practical. So where's the line for practicality? How do normal people have their furniture set up, and how large of televisions do they have? Well, let's assume we're all normal people here. As I've previously invited other posters to do, grab a tape measure and head out to your living room. Measure the distance between your eyes in your normal seating position, and the screen (thanks to my lovely wife, I can establish this as 11 feet as of this exact instant). Then look it up on a chart vs. your screen size, or break out a calculator and do the math yourself (20/20 vision can resolve details of one arc minute). Are you getting full 1080p in your living room setup? If not, then why bother wasting resources on it?

Whats that sound folks? Its the sound of someone moving the goalposts.
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ok let's say that's still there. How would 3 monitors add more value to the gaming experience? you're saying 1080p idn't needed cos it doesn't add anything more but why does 3 monitors?

Also it's almost moot cos you said you went and got the 360 version to play instead which is factually a worse version with no ability to EVER support 3 monitors. How does that make sense at all? Doesn't play PC version for lack of 3 Monitor support (which was fixed) but goes and buys the 360 version instead of waiting for a proper fix 

If anyone else said the things you said you would have a field day calling them on their shit. 

clyde46

I already did address how 3 monitors would add value: a wider field of view. But that presumes that I dedicate a space entirely to that. Let's approach this from an entirely different perspective for a moment. Suppose for a second that we take platform out of it: consider a PC in one's living room. Are they going to set up 3 televisions in order to get triple monitor? No. Setting cost aside, it's simply not practical - you still have to use that room as a living room, den, etc. - that space is shared among the entire household and whatever myriad uses they have for said space. So, it's simply not practical. So where's the line for practicality? How do normal people have their furniture set up, and how large of televisions do they have? Well, let's assume we're all normal people here. As I've previously invited other posters to do, grab a tape measure and head out to your living room. Measure the distance between your eyes in your normal seating position, and the screen (thanks to my lovely wife, I can establish this as 11 feet as of this exact instant). Then look it up on a chart vs. your screen size, or break out a calculator and do the math yourself (20/20 vision can resolve details of one arc minute). Are you getting full 1080p in your living room setup? If not, then why bother wasting resources on it?

Whats that sound folks? Its the sound of someone moving the goalposts.

I assume the circular arguments will follow?

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They haven't even announced if its 720p or 1080p yet, so dont listen to that clyde fool.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Ok let's say that's still there. How would 3 monitors add more value to the gaming experience? you're saying 1080p idn't needed cos it doesn't add anything more but why does 3 monitors?

Also it's almost moot cos you said you went and got the 360 version to play instead which is factually a worse version with no ability to EVER support 3 monitors. How does that make sense at all? Doesn't play PC version for lack of 3 Monitor support (which was fixed) but goes and buys the 360 version instead of waiting for a proper fix 

If anyone else said the things you said you would have a field day calling them on their shit. 

clyde46
I already did address how 3 monitors would add value: a wider field of view. But that presumes that I dedicate a space entirely to that. Let's approach this from an entirely different perspective for a moment. Suppose for a second that we take platform out of it: consider a PC in one's living room. Are they going to set up 3 televisions in order to get triple monitor? No. Setting cost aside, it's simply not practical - you still have to use that room as a living room, den, etc. - that space is shared among the entire household and whatever myriad uses they have for said space. So, it's simply not practical. So where's the line for practicality? How do normal people have their furniture set up, and how large of televisions do they have? Well, let's assume we're all normal people here. As I've previously invited other posters to do, grab a tape measure and head out to your living room. Measure the distance between your eyes in your normal seating position, and the screen (thanks to my lovely wife, I can establish this as 11 feet as of this exact instant). Then look it up on a chart vs. your screen size, or break out a calculator and do the math yourself (20/20 vision can resolve details of one arc minute). Are you getting full 1080p in your living room setup? If not, then why bother wasting resources on it?

Whats that sound folks? Its the sound of someone moving the goalposts.

Really. What changed, specifically?
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]lol so much nerd rage in thread over one multiplat launch game. Please do not cry.Mr-Kutaragi

Who's crying?.

We're not the ones that have to play the game at 720p with med-high settings :lol:

Can you not read thread to see who is crying? I see gamer argue over unimpressive launch title that is multiplat to 5 system. Of course they do not optimize for next gen system when meeting launch and develop for many system. Launch title are never impressive performance, look at 360 launch game compare to later. Why waste resource optimize for version that will not sell so much, next gen console will only have few million userbase in first quarters. Sometimes, gamer should use logic. I guess too much to ask of gamespot user.

Scuses scuses, enjoy that 720p bro.

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YES!! 64 players and 60 fps I'm TOO EXCITED! and don't give a **** about 720 or 1080.. will look good anyway. 

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I already did address how 3 monitors would add value: a wider field of view. But that presumes that I dedicate a space entirely to that. Let's approach this from an entirely different perspective for a moment. Suppose for a second that we take platform out of it: consider a PC in one's living room. Are they going to set up 3 televisions in order to get triple monitor? No. Setting cost aside, it's simply not practical - you still have to use that room as a living room, den, etc. - that space is shared among the entire household and whatever myriad uses they have for said space. So, it's simply not practical. So where's the line for practicality? How do normal people have their furniture set up, and how large of televisions do they have? Well, let's assume we're all normal people here. As I've previously invited other posters to do, grab a tape measure and head out to your living room. Measure the distance between your eyes in your normal seating position, and the screen (thanks to my lovely wife, I can establish this as 11 feet as of this exact instant). Then look it up on a chart vs. your screen size, or break out a calculator and do the math yourself (20/20 vision can resolve details of one arc minute). Are you getting full 1080p in your living room setup? If not, then why bother wasting resources on it?lowe0

Good lord you are a master of deflection.