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#101 DerekLoffin
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[QUOTE="SKaREO"]4K resolution is for a stage projector. You don't need 4K resolution for gaming, that's just outrageously stupid.metal_zombie
I remember people saying the same things when HDTVs were being introduced

Except, they are mostly right in the case of 4K. For instance, my room setup, even if my TV could show 4k, I couldn't see it (in fact, I can't even get the full affect of 1080p at my distance). You either need an absolute monster of a TV, or to be sitting unhealthily close to it to truly get the effect of 4k resolution.
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#102 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="SKaREO"]4K resolution is for a stage projector. You don't need 4K resolution for gaming, that's just outrageously stupid.DerekLoffin
I remember people saying the same things when HDTVs were being introduced

Except, they are mostly right in the case of 4K. For instance, my room setup, even if my TV could show 4k, I couldn't see it (in fact, I can't even get the full affect of 1080p at my distance). You either need an absolute monster of a TV, or to be sitting unhealthily close to it to truly get the effect of 4k resolution.

cool time will tell I suppose
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#103 mulalatum
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="DerekLoffin"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"] I remember people saying the same things when HDTVs were being introduced

Except, they are mostly right in the case of 4K. For instance, my room setup, even if my TV could show 4k, I couldn't see it (in fact, I can't even get the full affect of 1080p at my distance). You either need an absolute monster of a TV, or to be sitting unhealthily close to it to truly get the effect of 4k resolution.

cool time will tell I suppose

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#104 mulalatum
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Any resolution over 1080p is utterly useless(for a living room tv), and only exists there for bragging rights and big numbers.

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#105 lostrib
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Any resolution over 1080p is utterly useless(for a living room tv), and only exists there for bragging rights and big numbers.

mulalatum

I think this is more in relation to PC gaming

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#106 mulalatum
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[QUOTE="mulalatum"]

Any resolution over 1080p is utterly useless(for a living room tv), and only exists there for bragging rights and big numbers.

lostrib

I think this is more in relation to PC gaming

Then why is it posted here?
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#107 Lumpy311
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="mulalatum"]

Any resolution over 1080p is utterly useless(for a living room tv), and only exists there for bragging rights and big numbers.

mulalatum

I think this is more in relation to PC gaming

Then why is it posted here?

Because it is System Wars and the PC is a system?

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#108 mulalatum
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[QUOTE="mulalatum"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

I think this is more in relation to PC gaming

Lumpy311

Then why is it posted here?

Because it is System Wars and the PC is a system?

seems more pc discussion worthy to me
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#109 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="mulalatum"]

Any resolution over 1080p is utterly useless(for a living room tv), and only exists there for bragging rights and big numbers.

mulalatum

I think this is more in relation to PC gaming

Then why is it posted here?

idk, probably because they just announced the new GPUs.  

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#110 kraken2109
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[QUOTE="mulalatum"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="DerekLoffin"] Except, they are mostly right in the case of 4K. For instance, my room setup, even if my TV could show 4k, I couldn't see it (in fact, I can't even get the full affect of 1080p at my distance). You either need an absolute monster of a TV, or to be sitting unhealthily close to it to truly get the effect of 4k resolution.

cool time will tell I suppose

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Do any of you guys read that chart? e.g. 4k is worth it if your TV is 50" and you sit closer than 22 feet. I think most people sit closer than 22 feet to their TV...
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#111 mulalatum
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="mulalatum"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"] cool time will tell I suppose

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Do any of you guys read that chart? e.g. 4k is worth it if your TV is 50" and you sit closer than 22 feet. I think most people sit closer than 22 feet to their TV...

Most people dont use 50 in tvs,
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#112 lostrib
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="mulalatum"] http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/629/200ppdengleski.png No mulalatum
Do any of you guys read that chart? e.g. 4k is worth it if your TV is 50" and you sit closer than 22 feet. I think most people sit closer than 22 feet to their TV...

Most people dont use 50 in tvs,

i'm sure there are a lot of people who do

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#113 glez13
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[QUOTE="mulalatum"][QUOTE="kraken2109"] Do any of you guys read that chart? e.g. 4k is worth it if your TV is 50" and you sit closer than 22 feet. I think most people sit closer than 22 feet to their TV...lostrib

Most people dont use 50 in tvs,

i'm sure there are a lot of people who do

That chart is incorrect anyways. For a 4k TV, for you to notice it  in a 50", you need to seat around 3 feet or a little closer.

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/

This other one is about lower resolutions but gives more perspective

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Article/How-Far-Should-I-Sit.php

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#114 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="mulalatum"][QUOTE="kraken2109"] Do any of you guys read that chart? e.g. 4k is worth it if your TV is 50" and you sit closer than 22 feet. I think most people sit closer than 22 feet to their TV...lostrib

Most people dont use 50 in tvs,

i'm sure there are a lot of people who do

 

I have a 50" TV and a 27 inch monitor. A nice 32 inch 4K monitor would perfect for around 4 feet. Which is perfect PC gaming distance fomr a monitor, and I definitely sit less than 10 feet from my 50 inch TV as well.

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#115 glez13
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="mulalatum"] Most people dont use 50 in tvs,Kinthalis

i'm sure there are a lot of people who do

 

I have a 50" TV and a 27 inch monitor. A nice 32 inch 4K monitor would perfect for around 4 feet. Which is perfect PC gaming distance fomr a monitor, and I definitely sit less than 10 feet from my 50 inch TV as well.

No it wouldn't. For around 4 feet you would need a display around 65".

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#116 mitu123
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[QUOTE="RimacBugatti"]Would I be able to get 4K resolution with 2 GTX 690'sclyde46
Not enough VRAM.

Yep, 2GB would be slaughtered when maxing out games with AA.
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#117 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="mulalatum"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

I think this is more in relation to PC gaming

lostrib

Then why is it posted here?

idk, probably because they just announced the new GPUs.  

R9 280X is not quite new i.e. tweaked (GDDR5-6000Mhz to GDDR5-6400Mhz) and renamed 7970 GE ASIC.
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#118 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="mulalatum"] Then why is it posted here?ronvalencia

idk, probably because they just announced the new GPUs.  

R9 280X is not quite new i.e. tweaked (GDDR5-6000Mhz to GDDR5-6400Mhz) and renamed 7970 GE ASIC.

this thread is in relation to the 290x

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#119 clyde46
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="SKaREO"]4K resolution is for a stage projector. You don't need 4K resolution for gaming, that's just outrageously stupid.DerekLoffin
I remember people saying the same things when HDTVs were being introduced

Except, they are mostly right in the case of 4K. For instance, my room setup, even if my TV could show 4k, I couldn't see it (in fact, I can't even get the full affect of 1080p at my distance). You either need an absolute monster of a TV, or to be sitting unhealthily close to it to truly get the effect of 4k resolution.

Hush you troll. Go tell people who own sports cars or 4x4's that its a waste of money. Go tell Beamerboy that his TV is a waste of money as a cheapo HDTV from Wal-mart would be sufficient.
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#120 millerlight89
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Is the 280x just a rebrand?
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#121 clyde46
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Is the 280x just a rebrand?millerlight89
Nope, as far as I can tell its a new GPU. Although its the last of the 28nm chips.
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#122 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Is the 280x just a rebrand?clyde46
Nope, as far as I can tell its a new GPU. Although its the last of the 28nm chips.

Cool, haven't been keeping up lately. I knew I should have taken bluerayhidef with a bucket of salt.
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#123 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Is the 280x just a rebrand?millerlight89
Nope, as far as I can tell its a new GPU. Although its the last of the 28nm chips.

Cool, haven't been keeping up lately. I knew I should have taken bluerayhidef with a bucket of salt.

Well, from what I've seen on tech sites, the top tier card, a single 290X can play at least Dirt 3 across 3 30in monitors without breaking a sweat. Something the Titan is yet to do I believe.
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#124 danten81
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No way will Nvidia let this go they will annouce something similar in the future which is good that means competitive price and what not

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Definitely, Nvidia love to meddle.
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#125 clyde46
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Well, AMD is making a lot of noise about this new 290x and its new Mantle API. According to them, running BF4 with Mantle on a 290x, it runs rings around a Titan. Now considering the Titan is the current king of the video card pile and costs over $1000, AMD are really amp'ing it up if they can release this card for less than the cost of a GTX780.
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#126 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Nope, as far as I can tell its a new GPU. Although its the last of the 28nm chips.

Cool, haven't been keeping up lately. I knew I should have taken bluerayhidef with a bucket of salt.

Well, from what I've seen on tech sites, the top tier card, a single 290X can play at least Dirt 3 across 3 30in monitors without breaking a sweat. Something the Titan is yet to do I believe.

Yea I have been following that one, just not the lower tiers. I may get two 280xs and call it a day. Then again, crossfire hasn't had the best of luck in the driver department. If the 290x is as good as sources would lead us to believe, may just get a single one of those and call it a day.
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#127 SKaREO
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All flash no substance. I'd rather play Grand Theft Auto in 720p at 30fps than play that shitty game in 4k resolution with 10,000 fps.
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#128 clyde46
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Cool, haven't been keeping up lately. I knew I should have taken bluerayhidef with a bucket of salt.

Well, from what I've seen on tech sites, the top tier card, a single 290X can play at least Dirt 3 across 3 30in monitors without breaking a sweat. Something the Titan is yet to do I believe.

Yea I have been following that one, just not the lower tiers. I may get two 280xs and call it a day. Then again, crossfire hasn't had the best of luck in the driver department. If the 290x is as good as sources would lead us to believe, may just get a single one of those and call it a day.

Industry sources are thinking a $600 price point which is $400 less than a Titan and $50 less than a GTX 780 so if AMD can handle this correctly, they will be laughing all the way to the bank. However, these performance gains are rumoured to be using the new Mantle API which won't be launching till December. On the plus side, AMD is making this open source(?) so it will be available for Nividia and Intel to use.
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#129 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Well, from what I've seen on tech sites, the top tier card, a single 290X can play at least Dirt 3 across 3 30in monitors without breaking a sweat. Something the Titan is yet to do I believe.

Yea I have been following that one, just not the lower tiers. I may get two 280xs and call it a day. Then again, crossfire hasn't had the best of luck in the driver department. If the 290x is as good as sources would lead us to believe, may just get a single one of those and call it a day.

Industry sources are thinking a $600 price point which is $400 less than a Titan and $50 less than a GTX 780 so if AMD can handle this correctly, they will be laughing all the way to the bank. However, these performance gains are rumoured to be using the new Mantle API which won't be launching till December. On the plus side, AMD is making this open source(?) so it will be available for Nividia and Intel to use.

$600 would be a solid price point for this card. I would love to give AMD another go. I just need them to step it up in the driver department. Not a fanboy of either company. I always found gpu/cpu fanboys crazier than system fanboys.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea I have been following that one, just not the lower tiers. I may get two 280xs and call it a day. Then again, crossfire hasn't had the best of luck in the driver department. If the 290x is as good as sources would lead us to believe, may just get a single one of those and call it a day.

Industry sources are thinking a $600 price point which is $400 less than a Titan and $50 less than a GTX 780 so if AMD can handle this correctly, they will be laughing all the way to the bank. However, these performance gains are rumoured to be using the new Mantle API which won't be launching till December. On the plus side, AMD is making this open source(?) so it will be available for Nividia and Intel to use.

$600 would be a solid price point for this card. I would love to give AMD another go. I just need them to step it up in the driver department. Not a fanboy of either company. I always found gpu/cpu fanboys crazier than system fanboys.

I've had two AMD or ATI cards as they were back then, a HD4670 and a HD4870 and both were solid performers. Had no driver issues with either. Hell, the only driver problem I've ever encountered was with a GTX260 Maxxcore from BFG that refuses to play nice with F@H. It ran games just fine but the driver would crash when I used to run the F@H client.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Industry sources are thinking a $600 price point which is $400 less than a Titan and $50 less than a GTX 780 so if AMD can handle this correctly, they will be laughing all the way to the bank. However, these performance gains are rumoured to be using the new Mantle API which won't be launching till December. On the plus side, AMD is making this open source(?) so it will be available for Nividia and Intel to use.

$600 would be a solid price point for this card. I would love to give AMD another go. I just need them to step it up in the driver department. Not a fanboy of either company. I always found gpu/cpu fanboys crazier than system fanboys.

I've had two AMD or ATI cards as they were back then, a HD4670 and a HD4870 and both were solid performers. Had no driver issues with either. Hell, the only driver problem I've ever encountered was with a GTX260 Maxxcore from BFG that refuses to play nice with F@H. It ran games just fine but the driver would crash when I used to run the F@H client.

Last one I had was a 5870 and while I had driver issues, they weren't as bad as people said. My 670s have been having driver issues now, but it's mostly sli crap. I love the performance gains for two cards, but they can be a damn headache some times.
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#132 clyde46
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] $600 would be a solid price point for this card. I would love to give AMD another go. I just need them to step it up in the driver department. Not a fanboy of either company. I always found gpu/cpu fanboys crazier than system fanboys.

I've had two AMD or ATI cards as they were back then, a HD4670 and a HD4870 and both were solid performers. Had no driver issues with either. Hell, the only driver problem I've ever encountered was with a GTX260 Maxxcore from BFG that refuses to play nice with F@H. It ran games just fine but the driver would crash when I used to run the F@H client.

Last one I had was a 5870 and while I had driver issues, they weren't as bad as people said. My 670s have been having driver issues now, but it's mostly sli crap. I love the performance gains for two cards, but they can be a damn headache some times.

I have two cards but they aren't in SLI. I run a 460 for PhysX.
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#133 robbie80
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for the people saying they going to wait on Nvidia.  

 

Here are 4 reasons not to.

 

1) Nvidia are price gougers ... At best they going to price their cards at around the same price of the new amd line. 

2) everytime a new GPU comes out. Its always easy to say "OH THE NEXT SET OF GPUS FROM X COMPANY IS GOING TO BLOW THESE AWAY SO WAIT".  Essentially you will be waiting for a long time with that opinion. 

3) With AMD you are guarenteed that your gpu will be optimized for basically every multiplat going into this next generation. Whereas with Nvidia you always going to be worring about optimization.

4) If mantel picks up, Thats going to be alot of free juice for your GPU . Frostbite 3 is already supporting mantel and there are alot of good games coming out on Frostbite.  Im pretty sure Unreal Engine 4 and CryEngine are going to support mantel as well.   Chris Roberts was at the AMD event to show star citizen , and a staff member at crynet forums has said they will be considering mantel support .   

 

 

So to me, AMD looks like the shiz this gen.

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yea Amd look set to come back and the offer value for money I be going with them for my gaming PC just wondering is better to go with LCD 32" or monitor won't be gaming higher than 1080p.I plan on buying the new r9 280x.
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PC Gaming = Hardware for games that don't exist. R9 290X to run retro side scrollers and console ports, lol.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea I have been following that one, just not the lower tiers. I may get two 280xs and call it a day. Then again, crossfire hasn't had the best of luck in the driver department. If the 290x is as good as sources would lead us to believe, may just get a single one of those and call it a day. millerlight89
Industry sources are thinking a $600 price point which is $400 less than a Titan and $50 less than a GTX 780 so if AMD can handle this correctly, they will be laughing all the way to the bank. However, these performance gains are rumoured to be using the new Mantle API which won't be launching till December. On the plus side, AMD is making this open source(?) so it will be available for Nividia and Intel to use.

$600 would be a solid price point for this card. I would love to give AMD another go. I just need them to step it up in the driver department. Not a fanboy of either company. I always found gpu/cpu fanboys crazier than system fanboys.

Just got my first AMD card in a long while (last was a 4870, then was on an nvidia 570 for a few years) and I couldn't be happier with the drivers and quality hardware.  Solid 60 fps....solid 60fps everywhere

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#136 Lumpy311
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PC Gaming = Hardware for games that don't exist. R9 290X to run retro side scrollers and console ports, lol.AestheticGamer

And Star Citizen.

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All flash no substance. I'd rather play Grand Theft Auto in 720p at 30fps than play that shitty game in 4k resolution with 10,000 fps.SKaREO
And us PC gamers will be playing GTAV in at least 1080p at 60 fps, unlike you.
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#138 mulalatum
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[QUOTE="SKaREO"]All flash no substance. I'd rather play Grand Theft Auto in 720p at 30fps than play that shitty game in 4k resolution with 10,000 fps.DragonfireXZ95
And us PC gamers will be playing GTAV in at least 1080p at 60 fps, unlike you.

*some*
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#139 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="SKaREO"]All flash no substance. I'd rather play Grand Theft Auto in 720p at 30fps than play that shitty game in 4k resolution with 10,000 fps.mulalatum
And us PC gamers will be playing GTAV in at least 1080p at 60 fps, unlike you.

*some*

Semantics, my dear.
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#140 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="SKaREO"]All flash no substance. I'd rather play Grand Theft Auto in 720p at 30fps than play that shitty game in 4k resolution with 10,000 fps.mulalatum
And us PC gamers will be playing GTAV in at least 1080p at 60 fps, unlike you.

*some*

My $600 laptop can run almost any game in 1080p at maximum settings. I'm sure I'll run GTA V on high settings, 1080p, Dx11, max AA and so on. (Console versions will be equal to low settings, 720p, no AA, Dx9) It really doesn't take much lol.
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#141 kipsta77
Member since 2012 • 1119 Posts

Impressive.

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#143 mulalatum
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="mulalatum"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] And us PC gamers will be playing GTAV in at least 1080p at 60 fps, unlike you.

*some*

My $600 laptop can run almost any game in 1080p at maximum settings. I'm sure I'll run GTA V on high settings, 1080p, Dx11, max AA and so on. (Console versions will be equal to low settings, 720p, no AA, Dx9) It really doesn't take much lol.

No, it only takes 600 dollars.
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#144 Kinthalis
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="mulalatum"] *some*mulalatum
My $600 laptop can run almost any game in 1080p at maximum settings. I'm sure I'll run GTA V on high settings, 1080p, Dx11, max AA and so on. (Console versions will be equal to low settings, 720p, no AA, Dx9) It really doesn't take much lol.

No, it only takes 600 dollars.

 

Only when you're tlkaing about a laptop. A desktop for $250 could beat a console in performance (going with an AMD APU).

 

Not thta it matters. You get what you pay for. 

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#145 NEWMAHAY
Member since 2012 • 3824 Posts

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

idk, probably because they just announced the new GPUs.  

lostrib

R9 280X is not quite new i.e. tweaked (GDDR5-6000Mhz to GDDR5-6400Mhz) and renamed 7970 GE ASIC.

this thread is in relation to the 290x

I can't tell whether Ronva is an idiot or someone who has zero grasp of the english language.
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#146 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Head's up for anyone in the UK but its going to cost £480. That's what I heard and I'm just letting you guys know... Don't ask how I know. I won't say. Also Day one for me. Running 2560x1080 with 2GB 680 is pushing breaking point right now so I need this 512bit 4GB :D.
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#147 AestheticGamer
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Either way if you have friends playing Battlefield 4 on the consoles will be way better than the PC version where nobody talks but then again you all will just brag about being able to run 32xaa (as if anyone gives a f*ck in the real world).
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#148 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Either way if you have friends playing Battlefield 4 on the consoles will be way better than the PC version where nobody talks but then again you all will just brag about being able to run 32xaa (as if anyone gives a f*ck in the real world).AestheticGamer
Really?... God damn maybe I was dreaming by I was in a server a while ago with people who go to the same server and play the game very very well who talk and kick ban hackers, same as my my CSS server... Its a mini gaming community of around 60-70 regular users. GTFO.
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#149 lostrib
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Either way if you have friends playing Battlefield 4 on the consoles will be way better than the PC version where nobody talks but then again you all will just brag about being able to run 32xaa (as if anyone gives a f*ck in the real world).AestheticGamer

the PC version will haver VOIP  included in the game

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#150 Lumpy311
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Either way if you have friends playing Battlefield 4 on the consoles will be way better than the PC version where nobody talks but then again you all will just brag about being able to run 32xaa (as if anyone gives a f*ck in the real world).AestheticGamer

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