Bioshock 2 looks absolutley stunning/beautiful/gorgeous

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

I'm pissed that it takes place in Rapture again.

Seems to me that the new devs felt insecure about going in a new direction, which is a goddamn shame, because one of the best things about BioShock was how fresh and unspoiled it felt.

Rapture was a virgin world, just waiting to be ****ed, and now they're gonna bring the gal out again and turn her into a cheap ass whore.

Why can't they do that 'island cult deprogrammer' bull **** that Levine had planned orginally? That sounded cool as hell.

Nerd_Man

Maybe it's easier playing a different FPS than complaining about what Bioshock is...

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

I'm pissed that it takes place in Rapture again.

Seems to me that the new devs felt insecure about going in a new direction, which is a goddamn shame, because one of the best things about BioShock was how fresh and unspoiled it felt.

Rapture was a virgin world, just waiting to be ****ed, and now they're gonna bring the gal out again and turn her into a cheap ass whore.

Why can't they do that 'island cult deprogrammer' bull **** that Levine had planned orginally? That sounded cool as hell.

Nerd_Man

Maybe it's easier playing a different FPS than complaining about what Bioshock is...

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

1. I loved the original Bioshock.

2. I'm complaining about what I'm seeing from the upcoming sequel (ie, a lack of the "fresh factor" that helped to make the first one so good).

3. Where's the problem?

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

I'm pissed that it takes place in Rapture again.

Seems to me that the new devs felt insecure about going in a new direction, which is a goddamn shame, because one of the best things about BioShock was how fresh and unspoiled it felt.

Rapture was a virgin world, just waiting to be ****ed, and now they're gonna bring the gal out again and turn her into a cheap ass whore.

Why can't they do that 'island cult deprogrammer' bull **** that Levine had planned orginally? That sounded cool as hell.

jethrovegas

Maybe it's easier playing a different FPS than complaining about what Bioshock is...

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

1. I loved the original Bioshock.

2. I'm complaining about what I'm seeing from the upcoming sequel (ie, a lack of the "fresh factor" that helped to make the first one so good).

3. Where's the problem?

Ok, lemme get this straight... You want the sequel to take place somewhere else than an underwater city? That's asking for too much, if so. The atmosphere is one of the things that made the original great, and I don't see why they would want to change it so much as making it take place elsewhere. It's like telling Mario to make his next game on a random tropical island instead of the Mushroom Kingdom....... Oh wait

Ok, lemme get this straight... You want the sequel to take place somewhere else than an underwater city? That's asking for too much, if so. The atmosphere is one of the things that made the original great, and I don't see why they would want to change it so much as making it take place elsewhere. It's like telling Mario to make his next game on a random tropical island instead of the Mushroom Kingdom....... Oh wait

Nerd_Man

Why?

Why can't you have great atmosphere in another location besides an underwater city?

Where is it written?

Looks good, I really hope it continues on this path.

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

Ok, lemme get this straight... You want the sequel to take place somewhere else than an underwater city? That's asking for too much, if so. The atmosphere is one of the things that made the original great, and I don't see why they would want to change it so much as making it take place elsewhere. It's like telling Mario to make his next game on a random tropical island instead of the Mushroom Kingdom....... Oh wait

Why?

Why can't you have great atmosphere in another location besides an underwater city?

Where is it written?

Ok, lemme get this straight... You want the sequel to take place somewhere else than an underwater city? That's asking for too much, if so. The atmosphere is one of the things that made the original great, and I don't see why they would want to change it so much as making it take place elsewhere. Nerd_Man

It's not impossible to have atmosphere in a place other than Rapture.

It's like telling Mario to make his next game on a random tropical island instead of the Mushroom Kingdom....... Oh wait

Nerd_Man

No one seemed to care when he went into fricking outer space.

it wouldnt make any sense in comparison to the original, thats why. it would be like making mgs4 take place in space just because the whole land thing got old after 3 games.mtradr43

It would make plenty of sense.

There were unique and original things about BioShock besides the "ZOMG guys, we're totally underwater" effect.

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

Ok, lemme get this straight... You want the sequel to take place somewhere else than an underwater city? That's asking for too much, if so. The atmosphere is one of the things that made the original great, and I don't see why they would want to change it so much as making it take place elsewhere. It's like telling Mario to make his next game on a random tropical island instead of the Mushroom Kingdom....... Oh wait

jethrovegas

Why?

Why can't you have great atmosphere in another location besides an underwater city?

Where is it written?

Sorry, I forgot to include "In my opinion".

But seriously, Bioshock is what it is. I don't see why anyone would be asking for it to change itself into something else completely different than what it is. The underwater city was one of the signature aspects of the original game.

If you really have a problem for why they didn't change the atmosphere, you could easily just play a different game, like I originally said - because it already sounds like you are just asking for a different game, BUT with the same name..

Honestly, the Big Daddy part kills it for me. What can really take on a Big Daddy? Yeah, they showed that the Big Sister was strong enough, but all her moments will most likely be scripted. That will be boring.

[QUOTE="mtradr43"] it wouldnt make any sense in comparison to the original, thats why. it would be like making mgs4 take place in space just because the whole land thing got old after 3 games.jethrovegas

It would make plenty of sense.

There were unique and original things about BioShock besides the "ZOMG guys, we're totally underwater" effect.

But seriously, Bioshock is what it is. I don't see why anyone would be asking for it to change itself into something else completely different than what it is. The underwater city was one of the signature aspects of the original game.Nerd_Man

One of the signature aspects. A change of location should not completely change the essence of the game. If it does, then there was something wrong in the first place.

Honestly, the Big Daddy part kills it for me. What can really take on a Big Daddy? Yeah, they showed that the Big Sister was strong enough, but all her moments will most likely be scripted. That will be boring.

D00nut

Yeah, they showed that the Big Sister was strong enough, but all her moments will most likely be scripted.D00nut

What, because they used scripted moments for effect in the demo level? Or is that just a wild guess?

Sorry, I forgot to include "In my opinion".

But seriously, Bioshock is what it is. I don't see why anyone would be asking for it to change itself into something else completely different than what it is. The underwater city was one of the signature aspects of the original game.

If you really have a problem for why they didn't change the atmosphere, you could easily just play a different game, like I originally said - because it already sounds like you are just asking for a different game, BUT with the same name..

Nerd_Man

No, I'm asking for a SEQUEL with the same sort of bold originality, the same sort of ridiculous, visceral combat, the same sort of wonderful writing, the same sort of willingness to explore interesting and fresh thematic material, and the same sort of exceptional production qualities.

BioShock had a hell of alot more going for it than the fact that you could look outside of Rapture's windows and see the ocean.

[QUOTE="D00nut"]Yeah, they showed that the Big Sister was strong enough, but all her moments will most likely be scripted.Cherokee_Jack

What, because they used scripted moments for effect in the demo level? Or is that just a wild guess?

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

Sorry, I forgot to include "In my opinion".

But seriously, Bioshock is what it is. I don't see why anyone would be asking for it to change itself into something else completely different than what it is. The underwater city was one of the signature aspects of the original game.

If you really have a problem for why they didn't change the atmosphere, you could easily just play a different game, like I originally said - because it already sounds like you are just asking for a different game, BUT with the same name..

jethrovegas

No, I'm asking for a SEQUEL with the same sort of bold originality, the same sort of ridiculous, visceral combat, the same sort of wonderful writing, the same sort of willingness to explore interesting and fresh thematic material, and the same sort of exceptional production qualities.

BioShock had a hell of alot more going for it than the fact that you could look outside of Rapture's windows and see the ocean.

Previously you said (Or someone said, anyways) that in the original game the atmosphere was something new and original... But now it's not; and therefore, the sequel should not be in Rapture now. I don't think that was the point of introducing Rapture to all of us - I don't think the main intent of trying to look and feel new was what the creators really cared about - they wanted to tell an interesting story and create a franchise out of it. Now they have, and have perfect opportunities to really let us see Rapture in more ways than we ever have with this sequel.
I don't think the point was to try to be fresh, but you seem to be stuck up over the original because it was fresh, and now the company has to go elsewhere bringing newer things that would not make any sense to the series.

Previously you said (Or someone said, at least) that in the original game the atmosphere was something new and original... But now it's not; and therefore, the sequel should not be in Rapture now. I don't think that was the point of introducing Rapture to all of us - I don't think the main intent of trying to look and feel new was what the creators really cared about - they wanted to tell an interesting story and create a franchise out of it. Now they have, and have perfect opportunities to really let us see Rapture in more ways than we ever have with this sequel.
I don't think the point was to try to be fresh, but you seem to be stuck up over the original because it was fresh, and now the company has to go elsewhere bringing newer things that would not make any sense to the series.

Nerd_Man

That might not have been the point, but that's how that **** went down. I was there, I remember.

Which brings us back to square one: I want more fresh, but they are not going to give it to me because they are giantic whores and they are scared of fresh like a child is scared of the dark; therefore, I am pissed.

That's all I was ever saying.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]I wonder how much of the ocean you'll be able to "explore" or will it just be extremely linear paths.II-FBIsniper-II

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

Previously you said (Or someone said, at least) that in the original game the atmosphere was something new and original... But now it's not; and therefore, the sequel should not be in Rapture now. I don't think that was the point of introducing Rapture to all of us - I don't think the main intent of trying to look and feel new was what the creators really cared about - they wanted to tell an interesting story and create a franchise out of it. Now they have, and have perfect opportunities to really let us see Rapture in more ways than we ever have with this sequel.
I don't think the point was to try to be fresh, but you seem to be stuck up over the original because it was fresh, and now the company has to go elsewhere bringing newer things that would not make any sense to the series.

jethrovegas

That might not have been the point, but that's how that **** went down. I was there, I remember.

Which brings us back to square one: I want more fresh, but they are not going to give it to me because they are giantic whores and they are scared of fresh like a child is scared of the dark; therefore, I am pissed.

That's all I was ever saying.

...Then play a different game.... Jeez. No one is holding a gun to your head saying that you have to buy this game when it comes out. If you really can't stand the fact that it's in Rapture again, then that's fine. You don't need to complain about it - just play something else.

Bioshock's main character pretty much IS Rapture. Rapture had way more emotions than a big Daddy and the character you played as combined. So to say the sequel can't have Rapture is like saying a Mario game Can't have Mario, or a Metal Gear Solid that can't have Snake, and so on.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]I wonder how much of the ocean you'll be able to "explore" or will it just be extremely linear paths.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="D00nut"]

Honestly, the Big Daddy part kills it for me. What can really take on a Big Daddy? Yeah, they showed that the Big Sister was strong enough, but all her moments will most likely be scripted. That will be boring.

mtradr43

Wow, I'm rather surprised that there seems to be a lot of hate for Bioshock... I thought the original was amazing, and I am very excited for the sequel.... I never realized a lot of people had much against the series.

Wow, I'm rather surprised that there seems to be a lot of hate for Bioshock... I thought the original was amazing, and I am very excited for the sequel.... I never realized a lot of people hated the series.

Nerd_Man

[QUOTE="NintendoBoy1996"]boring. would be better on the wii. no one wants to play an fps with controllers they are ancient histery El-Visitante

Ownage approved!

Anyway, Bioshock 2 looks damn good. Pretty much the best an UE3 game can. I hope there are destructible environments in this one.

In my view Rapture is one of the best crafted worlds in gaming, it's up there with Hl2's world, The Zone, and Nuked DC and the world of the witcher. thegoldenpoo

the theme is dorky as hellbioshockblowass

As if video games in general are not dorky.

1. take two is will fund bioshock dev's to complete this piece of trash game but they will not fund duke nukem forever legendary devs? screw them do not support this crappy publiser. 2.bioshock is seriously one of the worst fps i ever played seriously. 3.the theme is dorky as hell, 4.the level design is trash animations/gunplay is trash. 5.the levels have no cool puzzles or interactivity like duke nukem or secret area's. on duke you can go anywhere on the level, anywhere you can see you can go bioshock is linear piece of crap game, 6. invisible barriers everywhere lacks explorationsbioshockblowass

1. DNF got enough funding. It was in development for 12 friggin years!

2. No

3. It is based on Ayn Rand philosophy. In no way is it dorky

4. Nope

5. Hacking minigames, plasmids with the environment ( putting someone alight, then electrocuting them when in water), telekinesis,etc.

6. Maybe so, but that wasn't the point of the first game

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]In my view Rapture is one of the best crafted worlds in gaming, it's up there with Hl2's world, The Zone, and Nuked DC and the world of the witcher. videogamessuxxx

[QUOTE="videogamessuxxx"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]In my view Rapture is one of the best crafted worlds in gaming, it's up there with Hl2's world, The Zone, and Nuked DC and the world of the witcher. thegoldenpoo

I agree with this post. Not every game has to be the same.

Also, i would say that 'The Witcher' is 'semi-sandbox'.

This might just be the best fps of the year.

Oh how you look differently at games when yoy're not into MP.

Yeah, it looks great/fantastic/excellent/superb/splendid/marvelous/exquisite/superlative.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="videogamessuxxx"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]In my view Rapture is one of the best crafted worlds in gaming, it's up there with Hl2's world, The Zone, and Nuked DC and the world of the witcher. thegoldenpoo

Publisher Take-Two Interactive has filed suit against what's left of 3D Realms (formely Apogee Ltd.) for the dev's inability to deliver Duke Nukem Forever. Take-Two claims that an agreement to finish the game was violated when 3D Realms shut down last week. "Apogee continually delayed the completion date for Duke Nukem Forever," stated Take-Two in the filing, "Apogee repeatedly assured Take-Two and the video-gaming community that it was diligently working toward competing development of the PC Version of Duke Nukem Forever." Take-Two paid $12 million to former Nukem publisher Infogrames for publishing rights to the game in nearly a decade ago. According to the publisher, a second unspecified agreement was struck between Take-Two and 3D Realms in 2007, evidence that will likely be crucial in where the decision lands http://www.examiner.com/x-3707-LA-Gaming-News-Examiner~y2009m5d15-3D-Realms-sued-by-TakeTwo-over-unfinished-Duke-Nukem-ForeverTAKETWOSUCKSASS

[QUOTE="TAKETWOSUCKSASS"]Publisher Take-Two Interactive has filed suit against what's left of 3D Realms (formely Apogee Ltd.) for the dev's inability to deliver Duke Nukem Forever. Take-Two claims that an agreement to finish the game was violated when 3D Realms shut down last week. "Apogee continually delayed the completion date for Duke Nukem Forever," stated Take-Two in the filing, "Apogee repeatedly assured Take-Two and the video-gaming community that it was diligently working toward competing development of the PC Version of Duke Nukem Forever." Take-Two paid $12 million to former Nukem publisher Infogrames for publishing rights to the game in nearly a decade ago. According to the publisher, a second unspecified agreement was struck between Take-Two and 3D Realms in 2007, evidence that will likely be crucial in where the decision lands http://www.examiner.com/x-3707-LA-Gaming-News-Examiner~y2009m5d15-3D-Realms-sued-by-TakeTwo-over-unfinished-Duke-Nukem-ForeverIronBass

never gonna get the game now TAKETWOSUCKSASS

Eh... too bad?

read my post about bioshock game has too many invisible barriers keeping you from going on levels on the level.TAKETWOSUCKSASS

I can not remember any invisible barrier on Bioshock :?

[QUOTE="TAKETWOSUCKSASS"] never gonna get the game now IronBass

Eh... too bad?

read my post about bioshock game has too many invisible barriers keeping you from going on levels on the level.TAKETWOSUCKSASS

I can not remember any invisible barrier on Bioshock :?