Bioshock Infinite edning and story is a total cop out and unfair (some spoilers)

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Then why dont they just kill just the orignal booker that becomes Comstok.They kill  our booker that made conscious choice not to ? Clearly there can be more then one of the same person in each unverse. Booker and comstok are prove. I would hazzard a guess at them needing Elizabeths powers so that they could actually figure out when they had to kill him to stop it from happening and the luteces didn't know. So the luteces brought Booker from his dimension over so that he could get her powers back by destroying the sipher at the end.

Lets say that it all began with to 2 dimensions.In one he becomes comestok and in the other  one doesn't. They just have go to the one where he becomes and end it there.That way you will have to possiblities.One  is a world where booker is a drunk and the other is a world where he doens't exist. Like i said above, they must not have known when or where in time to go to stop it from happening.

 

It makes no sense no matter how you spin it for a number o reasons.Welcome to quantum physics,multiverses, forking timelines and paradoxes.

The one plot device that is worst even then "it was all a dream"

zarshack

But she was the master of space and time at the end of the game. She could have found out no problem.All it takes is some investigation on here part and just killing our booker who has all the columbia experience and memories. Is the booker they killed even the right age ?I mean it must be long after he made that decision. It makes 0 sence for them to kill our booker.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Stopping the baptism doesn't change anything if he wanted to go through with it, and that Booker did. Our Booker makes the conscious choice not to. That's the difference. Altering the event wouldn't mean anything if his intentions remained the same.DarkLink77

Then why dont they just kill just the orignal booker that becomes Comstok.They kill  our booker that made conscious choice not to ? Clearly there can be more then one of the same person in each unverse. Booker and comstok are prove.

Lets say that it all began with to 2 dimensions.In one he becomes comestok and in the other  one doesn't. They just have go to the one where he becomes and end it there.That way you will have to possiblities.One  is a world where booker is a drunk and the other is a world where he doens't exist.

It makes no sense no matter how you spin it for a number o reasons.Welcome to quantum physics,multiverses, forking timelines and paradoxes.

The one plot device that is worst even then "it was all a dream"

That's essentially what they did.

No they killed our booker, the booker that is not the right age, has already made the "right"choise" long ago and has all the columbia memories and experience from these events. How the f*ck is our booker that never became comstok the the original booker that becomes comstok ?

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

Then why dont they just kill just the orignal booker that becomes Comstok.They kill  our booker that made conscious choice not to ? Clearly there can be more then one of the same person in each unverse. Booker and comstok are prove.

 

Lets say that it all began with to 2 dimensions.In one he becomes comestok and in the other  one doesn't. They just have go to the one where he becomes and end it there.That way you will have to possiblities.One  is a world where booker is a drunk and the other is a world where he doens't exist.

 

It makes no sense no matter how you spin it for a number o reasons.Welcome to quantum physics,multiverses, forking timelines and paradoxes.

The one plot device that is worst even then "it was all a dream"

beganoo

That's essentially what they did.

No they killed our booker, the booker that is not the right age, has already made the "right"choise" long ago and has all the columbia memories and experience from these events. How the f*ck is our booker that never became comstok the the original booker that becomes comstok ?

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[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

That's essentially what they did.

DarkLink77

No they killed our booker, the booker that is not the right age, has already made the "right"choise" long ago and has all the columbia memories and experience from these events. How the f*ck is our booker that never became comstok the the original booker that becomes comstok ?

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What you just said make no sense at all.Ofcourse it matters. They need the ORGINAL to stop the chain.What f*ck are you on. Killing some random booker out of billions in the time and place should not do anything.It makes 0 sense,.Furthermore If they took our booker to the original universe where it all started there should have been 2 of them, and there wern't.

It would have been much more efective/dramatic and it would have made more sense (not much more but still) if they took our booker to the original booker (that became comstok) and have him kill himslef  (our booker killing the original boker) and  then make our booker  just fading or soemthing.Its sitll a paradox but as I said before you can never avoid paraox (aka plot hole) in a multivers theory based story.The way they did it is really f*cking stupid.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

No they killed our booker, the booker that is not the right age, has already made the "right"choise" long ago and has all the columbia memories and experience from these events. How the f*ck is our booker that never became comstok the the original booker that becomes comstok ?

 

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beganoo

What you just said make no sense at all.Ofcourse it matters. They need the ORGINAL to stop the chain.What f*ck are you on. Killing some random booker out of billions in the time and place should not do anything.It makes 0 sense,.Furthermore If they took our booker to the original universe where it all started there should have been 2 of them, and there wern't.

It would have been much more efective/dramatic and it would have made more sense (not much more but still) if they took our booker to the original booker (that became comstok) and have him kill himslef  (our booker killing the original boker) and  then make our booker  just fading or soemthing.Its sitll a paradox but as I said before you can never avoid paraox (aka plot hole) in a multivers theory based story.The way they did it is really f*cking stupid.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It doesn't matter which Booker becomes Comstock if he dies immediately after making that decision, it just matters when the decision was made. They go back to the time of the original decision, our Booker chooses to make the decision as a stand-in, and allows them to kill him so that every and all Comstock dies.DarkLink77

What you just said make no sense at all.Ofcourse it matters. They need the ORGINAL to stop the chain.What f*ck are you on. Killing some random booker out of billions in the time and place should not do anything.It makes 0 sense,.Furthermore If they took our booker to the original universe where it all started there should have been 2 of them, and there wern't.

It would have been much more efective/dramatic and it would have made more sense (not much more but still) if they took our booker to the original booker (that became comstok) and have him kill himslef  (our booker killing the original boker) and  then make our booker  just fading or soemthing.Its sitll a paradox but as I said before you can never avoid paraox (aka plot hole) in a multivers theory based story.The way they did it is really f*cking stupid.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

I think the game could of a done without all alternate dimension bullshit and just kept it simple.    As soon as I started traveling through these tears into alternative realities it really just screwed with my mind from that point on.   Then the game dragged on and on(which don't get me wrong was fun) then all of a sudden I'm being drowned by multiple variations of my daughter because she wants to wipe out my very existance.  What a bitch.   Call me shallow minded but I was hoping to just gtfon the zeplin, set the course for Paris and fly off into the sunset for some super fun happy times.

RR360DD

But then where would the link to Bioshock come from? Rapture is one of those alternate realities. Booker is Jack. Comstock is Andrew Ryan. Fontaine is Fitzroy. Elizabeth the little sisters. Songbird the Big Daddies etc etc

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

What you just said make no sense at all.Ofcourse it matters. They need the ORGINAL to stop the chain.What f*ck are you on. Killing some random booker out of billions in the time and place should not do anything.It makes 0 sense,.Furthermore If they took our booker to the original universe where it all started there should have been 2 of them, and there wern't.

 

It would have been much more efective/dramatic and it would have made more sense (not much more but still) if they took our booker to the original booker (that became comstok) and have him kill himslef  (our booker killing the original boker) and  then make our booker  just fading or soemthing.Its sitll a paradox but as I said before you can never avoid paraox (aka plot hole) in a multivers theory based story.The way they did it is really f*cking stupid.

texasgoldrush

itt.

op and many others are as stupid as I think they are.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It doesn't matter which Booker becomes Comstock if he dies immediately after making that decision, it just matters when the decision was made. They go back to the time of the original decision, our Booker chooses to make the decision as a stand-in, and allows them to kill him so that every and all Comstock dies.DarkLink77

What you just said make no sense at all.Ofcourse it matters. They need the ORGINAL to stop the chain.What f*ck are you on. Killing some random booker out of billions in the time and place should not do anything.It makes 0 sense,.Furthermore If they took our booker to the original universe where it all started there should have been 2 of them, and there wern't.

It would have been much more efective/dramatic and it would have made more sense (not much more but still) if they took our booker to the original booker (that became comstok) and have him kill himslef  (our booker killing the original boker) and  then make our booker  just fading or soemthing.Its sitll a paradox but as I said before you can never avoid paraox (aka plot hole) in a multivers theory based story.The way they did it is really f*cking stupid.

1. "the original participants don't matter."

2. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who.

3. So they had to recreate the moment instead


1. Ofcourse it matters.It dones't make snese if it didn't.The moment is a combination of the participants the time and the space.Not just the time and space.

2. Its more about who then where and when.The 2 personalities.Booker and Comstok.Thats the main theme.How diffrent thigns turn out exactly because of the two diffrent personalities.(aka who)

3.Recretae the moment? WHAT? This must be the stupidest thing I've read in this topic so far.When did they ever talked about recreteing anything and even if they did how will that help anything.They need the original reality not create a NEW one.What are you even thinking ?

You really are lost and have no idea what the w f*ck you are talking about right now do you. Sigh... just shut up.

Maybe I should shut up too and just be done with this waste off a plot divice.Its trash and its a waste of time to even think about it.

I think this basic multiple universe theory fail to explain a couple of things. I didn't put much thought to it and I still have to play the game again, but for example, the first time you change your universe, you see the people that you just killed gone "crazy". Why? Why are they being affected if it wasn't them who were killed, but other versions of them?

You could say the universes are overlapping or something like that but I don't know. The problem with a story like that is that you can free card to do anything.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

What you just said make no sense at all.Ofcourse it matters. They need the ORGINAL to stop the chain.What f*ck are you on. Killing some random booker out of billions in the time and place should not do anything.It makes 0 sense,.Furthermore If they took our booker to the original universe where it all started there should have been 2 of them, and there wern't.

 

It would have been much more efective/dramatic and it would have made more sense (not much more but still) if they took our booker to the original booker (that became comstok) and have him kill himslef  (our booker killing the original boker) and  then make our booker  just fading or soemthing.Its sitll a paradox but as I said before you can never avoid paraox (aka plot hole) in a multivers theory based story.The way they did it is really f*cking stupid.

beganoo

1. "the original participants don't matter."

2. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who.

3. So they had to recreate the moment instead


1. Ofcourse it matters.It dones't make snese if it didn't.The moment is a combination of the participants the time and the space.Not just the time and space.

2. Its more about who then where and when.The 2 personalities.Booker and Comstok.Thats the main theme.How diffrent thigns turn out exactly because of the two diffrent personalities.(aka who)

3.Recretae the moment? WHAT? This must be the stupidest thing I've read in this topic so far.When did they ever talked about recreteing anything and even if they did how will that help anything.They need the original reality not create a NEW one.What are you even thinking ?

You really are lost and have no idea what the w f*ck you are talking about right now do you. Sigh... just shut up.

There I said it. I've made my peace.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

What you just said make no sense at all.Ofcourse it matters. They need the ORGINAL to stop the chain.What f*ck are you on. Killing some random booker out of billions in the time and place should not do anything.It makes 0 sense,.Furthermore If they took our booker to the original universe where it all started there should have been 2 of them, and there wern't.

 

It would have been much more efective/dramatic and it would have made more sense (not much more but still) if they took our booker to the original booker (that became comstok) and have him kill himslef  (our booker killing the original boker) and  then make our booker  just fading or soemthing.Its sitll a paradox but as I said before you can never avoid paraox (aka plot hole) in a multivers theory based story.The way they did it is really f*cking stupid.

beganoo

1. "the original participants don't matter."

2. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who.

3. So they had to recreate the moment instead


1. Ofcourse it matters.It dones't make snese if it didn't.The moment is a combination of the participants the time and the space.Not just the time and space.

2. Its more about who then where and when.The 2 personalities.Booker and Comstok.Thats the main theme.How diffrent thigns turn out exactly because of the two diffrent personalities.(aka who)

3.Recretae the moment? WHAT? This must be the stupidest thing I've read in this topic so far.When did they ever talked about recreteing anything and even if they did how will that help anything.They need the original reality not create a NEW one.What are you even thinking ?

You really are lost and have no idea what the w f*ck you are talking about right now do you. Sigh... just shut up.

Maybe I should shut up too and just be done with this waste off a plot divice.Its trash and its a waste of time to even think about it.

Nah, see, I actually understood what happened. See, I did this thing called "paying attention." Your ass is just stupid.

1. The original participants don't matter because they're technically the same every single time. These events repeat each other over and over and over again. So having the exact Booker there for the event doesn't matter.

2. This relates to point 1. They just need a Booker, not the specific Booker.

3. Elizabeth can bend spacetime. They don't need the original reality because they are tying to get rid of it. Hence, they recreate it, overwrite it, and change it. This isn't hard, yo.

I think this basic multiple universe theory fail to explain a couple of things. I didn't put much thought to it and I still have to play the game again, but for example, the first time you change your universe, you see the people that you just killed gone "crazy". Why? Why are they being affected if it wasn't them who were killed, but other versions of them?

You could say the universes are overlapping or something like that but I don't know. The problem with a story like that is that you can free card to do anything.

padaporra

[QUOTE="padaporra"]

I think this basic multiple universe theory fail to explain a couple of things. I didn't put much thought to it and I still have to play the game again, but for example, the first time you change your universe, you see the people that you just killed gone "crazy". Why? Why are they being affected if it wasn't them who were killed, but other versions of them?

You could say the universes are overlapping or something like that but I don't know. The problem with a story like that is that you can free card to do anything.

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="padaporra"]

I think this basic multiple universe theory fail to explain a couple of things. I didn't put much thought to it and I still have to play the game again, but for example, the first time you change your universe, you see the people that you just killed gone "crazy". Why? Why are they being affected if it wasn't them who were killed, but other versions of them?

You could say the universes are overlapping or something like that but I don't know. The problem with a story like that is that you can free card to do anything.

padaporra

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] No, its contrived....this is what happens when your deuetragonist is a walking deus ex machina.texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] No, its contrived....this is what happens when your deuetragonist is a walking deus ex machina.texasgoldrush

1. You didn't play the game. Time travel is considered one of her abilities right from when you first see her and she opens a portal to future Paris. Being contrived would assume that she did not arrive at the point naturally, but she develops her abilities more and more as the game goes on and the siphon's destruction gives her full control.

2. You don't know what contrived means. Someone probably said it to you once and you thought it was a big enough word to regurgitate back at other people.

3. Both.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They need the original moment. They don't need the original participants because the original participants don't matter. Millions of Bookers have made that same choice, but it all starts somewhere. Hence why they just need the original moment. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who." So they recreated the original moment. They couldn't go back and put themselves in a position where there would be two Bookers at the same place because that would change the event, and create another parallel reality. So they had to recreate the moment instead.Vaasman

1. "the original participants don't matter."

2. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who.

3. So they had to recreate the moment instead


1. Ofcourse it matters.It dones't make snese if it didn't.The moment is a combination of the participants the time and the space.Not just the time and space.

2. Its more about who then where and when.The 2 personalities.Booker and Comstok.Thats the main theme.How diffrent thigns turn out exactly because of the two diffrent personalities.(aka who)

3.Recretae the moment? WHAT? This must be the stupidest thing I've read in this topic so far.When did they ever talked about recreteing anything and even if they did how will that help anything.They need the original reality not create a NEW one.What are you even thinking ?

You really are lost and have no idea what the w f*ck you are talking about right now do you. Sigh... just shut up.

There I said it. I've made my peace.

Yet you are the only one complaining about my grammar. Post is quite understable.Wtfs your problem?Stop being a snobby bitch.Its an international forum as far sa I'm concerned. If grammer is so important  to you F*CK OFF from the iternet  dipsh*t.

Now  would you kindly go and f*ck yourslef.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] So she allows time travel back to the moment? Thats contrived, even for multiverses.texasgoldrush

No, in literary terms, a deus ex machina is something that is used to solve an impossible problem at the last second that the writer came up with and could not write away. To put it into terms you might understand, The Crucible from ME3 is a Deus Ex Machina. It's something that comes up suddenly in the last game, no one has ever heard of it until then, nobody knows how it works, but everyone goes ahead and uses it because it's a magic reaper off switch. Then the Crucible does... something... In Bioshock Infinite, Elizabeth is not a deus ex machina just because she has a god-like power. Her ability is explained and developed early in the game, and you can see it becoming stronger, you can see her gaining control over it. It doesn't just come out of nowhere.

I wouldn't use the word contrived but convinient. 

Also, I think people are so focused to explain the endings that they forget there is 8 hour game in between it and the beginning. 

It was just sort of like:

Oh yeah, Elizabeth is your daughtor and she can open up different universes.  The end.   

The ending (and tears) had absolutely nothing to do with the world, nationalism, religions and totalitarianism.  It feels like it was added as an after thought like "ok, this would be cool..."

I think Ken Levine kind of messed up with this.  The whole "tear" thing was completely pointless and didn't add anything to the story and only added a tiny bit to the gameplay.  I really wish I had been there to help him write the story so he could have avoided this.  

Although, I really did enjoy seeing Rapture again.  

I liked it, but the story and characters (besides Elizabeth) weren't as good as Bioshock 1.  

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

1. "the original participants don't matter."

2. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who.

3. So they had to recreate the moment instead


1. Ofcourse it matters.It dones't make snese if it didn't.The moment is a combination of the participants the time and the space.Not just the time and space.

2. Its more about who then where and when.The 2 personalities.Booker and Comstok.Thats the main theme.How diffrent thigns turn out exactly because of the two diffrent personalities.(aka who)

3.Recretae the moment? WHAT? This must be the stupidest thing I've read in this topic so far.When did they ever talked about recreteing anything and even if they did how will that help anything.They need the original reality not create a NEW one.What are you even thinking ?

You really are lost and have no idea what the w f*ck you are talking about right now do you. Sigh... just shut up.

beganoo

There I said it. I've made my peace.

Yet you are the only one complaining about my grammar. Post is quite understable.Wtfs your problem?Stop being a snobby bitch.Its an international forum as far sa I'm concerned. If grammer is so important  to you F*CK OFF from the iternet  dipsh*t.

Now  would you kindly go and f*ck yourslef.

Also it's not just your grammar, your spelling is awful. I don't care what language you're speaking, if you don't even use spell check that just tells me you are lazy.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] They need the original moment. They don't need the original participants because the original participants don't matter. Millions of Bookers have made that same choice, but it all starts somewhere. Hence why they just need the original moment. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who." So they recreated the original moment. They couldn't go back and put themselves in a position where there would be two Bookers at the same place because that would change the event, and create another parallel reality. So they had to recreate the moment instead.DarkLink77

1. "the original participants don't matter."

2. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who.

3. So they had to recreate the moment instead


1. Ofcourse it matters.It dones't make snese if it didn't.The moment is a combination of the participants the time and the space.Not just the time and space.

2. Its more about who then where and when.The 2 personalities.Booker and Comstok.Thats the main theme.How diffrent thigns turn out exactly because of the two diffrent personalities.(aka who)

3.Recretae the moment? WHAT? This must be the stupidest thing I've read in this topic so far.When did they ever talked about recreteing anything and even if they did how will that help anything.They need the original reality not create a NEW one.What are you even thinking ?

You really are lost and have no idea what the w f*ck you are talking about right now do you. Sigh... just shut up.

Maybe I should shut up too and just be done with this waste off a plot divice.Its trash and its a waste of time to even think about it.

Nah, see, I actually understood what happened. See, I did this thing called "paying attention." Your ass is just stupid.

1. The original participants don't matter because they're technically the same every single time. These events repeat each other over and over and over again. So having the exact Booker there for the event doesn't matter.

2. This relates to point 1. They just need a Booker, not the specific Booker.

3. Elizabeth can bend spacetime. They don't need the original reality because they are tying to get rid of it. Hence, they recreate it, overwrite it, and change it. This isn't hard, yo.

Yes repeating the same  sh*t that you said before without any in game proof or reason in general sure makes you right this time around.

Idiot.

The thing that felt forced to me is Elizabeth sudden completely knowledge of everything that was happening. 

Texas Gold Rush

ME3 ending is hated by most gamers.

Bioshock Infinite ending is loved by most gamers.

Noone cares about your horrible opinion.

The thing that felt forced to me is Elizabeth sudden completely knowledge of everything that was happening. 

padaporra

[QUOTE="padaporra"]

The thing that felt forced to me is Elizabeth sudden completely knowledge of everything that was happening. 

texasgoldrush

Texas Gold Rush

 

ME3 ending is hated by most gamers.

 

Bioshock Infinite ending is loved by most gamers.

 

 

Noone cares about your horrible opinion.

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

1. "the original participants don't matter."

2. Not that hard to understand considering the game continually stresses "when" over "who.

3. So they had to recreate the moment instead


1. Ofcourse it matters.It dones't make snese if it didn't.The moment is a combination of the participants the time and the space.Not just the time and space.

2. Its more about who then where and when.The 2 personalities.Booker and Comstok.Thats the main theme.How diffrent thigns turn out exactly because of the two diffrent personalities.(aka who)

3.Recretae the moment? WHAT? This must be the stupidest thing I've read in this topic so far.When did they ever talked about recreteing anything and even if they did how will that help anything.They need the original reality not create a NEW one.What are you even thinking ?

You really are lost and have no idea what the w f*ck you are talking about right now do you. Sigh... just shut up.

Maybe I should shut up too and just be done with this waste off a plot divice.Its trash and its a waste of time to even think about it.

beganoo

Nah, see, I actually understood what happened. See, I did this thing called "paying attention." Your ass is just stupid.

1. The original participants don't matter because they're technically the same every single time. These events repeat each other over and over and over again. So having the exact Booker there for the event doesn't matter.

2. This relates to point 1. They just need a Booker, not the specific Booker.

3. Elizabeth can bend spacetime. They don't need the original reality because they are tying to get rid of it. Hence, they recreate it, overwrite it, and change it. This isn't hard, yo.

Yes repeating the same  sh*t that you said before without any in game proof or reason in general sure makes you right this time around.

Idiot.

Without any in-game proof or reason? All of that stuff is right there. They explain it multiple times. Guess you just weren't paying attention.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Okay you know what, I don't care if English is your 50th language. If you can't form a legible English sentence, then stop trying to argue on an English forum.

There I said it. I've made my peace.

Vaasman

Yet you are the only one complaining about my grammar. Post is quite understable.Wtfs your problem?Stop being a snobby bitch.Its an international forum as far sa I'm concerned. If grammer is so important  to you F*CK OFF from the iternet  dipsh*t.

Now  would you kindly go and f*ck yourslef.

Also it's not just your grammar, your spelling is awful. I don't care what language you're speaking, if you don't even use spell check that just tells me you are lazy.

This is what I comes to eh.Personal attacks based on grammer.The last resort ?Butthurt  that I'm pointing out all b*llshit in your new favorite game ? You are pathetic.

Bulgarian is my native btw and I speak some russian too.Since I use english only for forums games and moves (aka entertainment) I don't give two sh*ts about what you have to say about it.

So there you go. Btw how many languages do you speak ?

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

Yet you are the only one complaining about my grammar. Post is quite understable.Wtfs your problem?Stop being a snobby bitch.Its an international forum as far sa I'm concerned. If grammer is so important  to you F*CK OFF from the iternet  dipsh*t.

 

Now  would you kindly go and f*ck yourslef.

beganoo

Also it's not just your grammar, your spelling is awful. I don't care what language you're speaking, if you don't even use spell check that just tells me you are lazy.

This is what I comes to eh.Personal attacks based on grammer.The last resort ?Butthurt  that I'm pointing out all b*llshit in your new favorite game ? You are pathetic.

Bulgarian is my native btw and I speak some russian too.Since I use english only for forums games and moves (aka entertainment) I don't give two sh*ts about what you have to say about it.

So there you go. Btw how many languages do you speak ?

I think it's pretty funny you're talking about personal insults too, since you've been swearing up a storm at anyone who has argued with any of what you wrote.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Nah, see, I actually understood what happened. See, I did this thing called "paying attention." Your ass is just stupid.

1. The original participants don't matter because they're technically the same every single time. These events repeat each other over and over and over again. So having the exact Booker there for the event doesn't matter.

2. This relates to point 1. They just need a Booker, not the specific Booker.

3. Elizabeth can bend spacetime. They don't need the original reality because they are tying to get rid of it. Hence, they recreate it, overwrite it, and change it. This isn't hard, yo.

DarkLink77

Yes repeating the same  sh*t that you said before without any in game proof or reason in general sure makes you right this time around.

Idiot.

Without any in-game proof or reason? All of that stuff is right there. They explain it multiple times. Guess you just weren't paying attention.

1st of all show examples.How the f*ck you came up with that recreating stuff I have no idea.Pretty sure you just pulled that  out of your ass so you can excuse the fact there is no second (the original) booker there .They said they need to go back to where it all started not recreate it.You are full of sh*t.

Also the fact that something is in the game doesn't mean its not stupid.Thats the hole point of this thread. I guess its for stupid simple people like you that don't question anyting they are told.

Glad you enjoyed it.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Yes repeating the same  sh*t that you said before without any in game proof or reason in general sure makes you right this time around.

 

Idiot.

beganoo

Without any in-game proof or reason? All of that stuff is right there. They explain it multiple times. Guess you just weren't paying attention.

1st of all show examples.How the f*ck you came up with that recreating stuff I have no idea.Pretty sure you just pulled that  out of your ass so you can excuse the fact there is no second (the original) booker there .They said they need to go back to where it all started not recreate it.You are full of sh*t.

Also the fact that something is in the game doesn't mean its not stupid.Thats the hole point of this thread. I guess its for stupid simple people like you that don't question anyting they are told.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Personally, I'm not over the moon for the ending (You don't have to go out of your way to insult everyone who disagrees with you, you know), but it makes sense in context and it's not a plothole.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Maybe I would if you didn't feel the need to swear like a drunken sailor back at me. I'm beginning to wonder if English really is your second language, or if you just used that as a cover for being so bad at it. Maybe you should stop playing games and go pick up a book.

Also it's not just your grammar, your spelling is awful. I don't care what language you're speaking, if you don't even use spell check that just tells me you are lazy.

Vaasman

This is what I comes to eh.Personal attacks based on grammer.The last resort ?Butthurt  that I'm pointing out all b*llshit in your new favorite game ? You are pathetic.

Bulgarian is my native btw and I speak some russian too.Since I use english only for forums games and moves (aka entertainment) I don't give two sh*ts about what you have to say about it.

So there you go. Btw how many languages do you speak ?

I think it's pretty funny you're talking about personal insults too, since you've been swearing up a storm at anyone who has argued with any of what you wrote.

Oh that ? I just hated the old GS rules and I'm still enjoying the new ones after all this time.

So you don't speak anything else ye ? Pretty much what I figured. If you have no concept of what it is to learn a foreign language you should just shut up.Or just keep trolling since you have nothing else to say. See if I care.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

This is what I comes to eh.Personal attacks based on grammer.The last resort ?Butthurt  that I'm pointing out all b*llshit in your new favorite game ? You are pathetic.

Bulgarian is my native btw and I speak some russian too.Since I use english only for forums games and moves (aka entertainment) I don't give two sh*ts about what you have to say about it.

 

So there you go. Btw how many languages do you speak ?

 

beganoo

I think it's pretty funny you're talking about personal insults too, since you've been swearing up a storm at anyone who has argued with any of what you wrote.

Oh that ? I just hated the old GS rules and I'm still enjoying the new ones after all this time.

So you don't speak anything else ye ? Pretty much what I figured. If you have no concept of what it is to learn a foreign language you should just shut up.Or just keep trolling since you have nothing else to say. See if I care.

Do you see where I'm coming from? You sound like a total idiot, and yet you have the gall to keep calling us the dipshits.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Not my fault you can't wrap your head around simple story concepts, dipsh!t.

Without any in-game proof or reason? All of that stuff is right there. They explain it multiple times. Guess you just weren't paying attention.

DarkLink77

1st of all show examples.How the f*ck you came up with that recreating stuff I have no idea.Pretty sure you just pulled that  out of your ass so you can excuse the fact there is no second (the original) booker there .They said they need to go back to where it all started not recreate it.You are full of sh*t.

Also the fact that something is in the game doesn't mean its not stupid.Thats the hole point of this thread. I guess its for stupid simple people like you that don't question anyting they are told.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Personally, I'm not over the moon for the ending (You don't have to go out of your way to insult everyone who disagrees with you, you know), but it makes sense in context and it's not a plothole.

You are very very confused my man. Very. To change a time line you need to change the event. You can't just take a guy from the future, kill him at the location of the event and change it.It doesn't even make sense in the theory relm.I can't explain it any better.Thats what you call a plot hole.

And yes the game kinda did that and thats why I think its sh*t. I don't think you know what a plot hole is and I think the 1st time you've heard of a multiverse is in this game.

I think im done with you.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Enough to know that it doesn't make sense to attempt a debate in the ones I'm not fully fluent in.

I think it's pretty funny you're talking about personal insults too, since you've been swearing up a storm at anyone who has argued with any of what you wrote.

Vaasman

Oh that ? I just hated the old GS rules and I'm still enjoying the new ones after all this time.

So you don't speak anything else ye ? Pretty much what I figured. If you have no concept of what it is to learn a foreign language you should just shut up.Or just keep trolling since you have nothing else to say. See if I care.

Do you see where I'm coming from? You sound like a total idiot, and yet you have the gall to keep calling us the dipshits.

You sound to like pretentious and childish assh*le that is bitching over the ITERNET about grammar.Really? In SW?The troll hub of gamespot.Its really pathetic. And my english is not as nearly as bad as you are trying to make it look.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

Oh that ? I just hated the old GS rules and I'm still enjoying the new ones after all this time.

 

So you don't speak anything else ye ? Pretty much what I figured. If you have no concept of what it is to learn a foreign language you should just shut up.Or just keep trolling since you have nothing else to say. See if I care.

 

beganoo

Do you see where I'm coming from? You sound like a total idiot, and yet you have the gall to keep calling us the dipshits.

You sound to like pretentious and childish assh*le that is bitching over the ITERNET about grammar.Really? In SW?The troll hub of gamespot.Its really pathetic. And my english is not as nearly as bad as you are trying to make it look.

Or a troll, I won't rule out that possibility. 

Again, use spell check.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

 

1st of all show examples.How the f*ck you came up with that recreating stuff I have no idea.Pretty sure you just pulled that  out of your ass so you can excuse the fact there is no second (the original) booker there .They said they need to go back to where it all started not recreate it.You are full of sh*t.

Also the fact that something is in the game doesn't mean its not stupid.Thats the hole point of this thread. I guess its for stupid simple people like you that don't question anyting they are told.

 

Glad you enjoyed it.

beganoo

Personally, I'm not over the moon for the ending (You don't have to go out of your way to insult everyone who disagrees with you, you know), but it makes sense in context and it's not a plothole.

You are very very confused my man. Very. To change a time line you need to change the event. You can't just take a guy from the future, kill him at the location of the event and change it.It doesn't even make sense in the theory relm.I can't explain it any better.Thats what you call a plot hole.

And yes the game kinda did that and thats why I think its sh*t. I don't think you know what a plot hole is and I think the 1st time you've heard of a multiverse is in this game.

I think im done with you.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I speak English German and French and Spanish. English is native, and for secondary languages, I am only really good at German. Spanish and French I have forgotten a lot of because I haven't practiced. I would not start an arguement in anything but English because it does not make sense to. I would just make myself look like a total jackass who has no idea what he's talking about, whether I actually did or did not.

Do you see where I'm coming from? You sound like a total idiot, and yet you have the gall to keep calling us the dipshits.

Vaasman

You sound to like pretentious and childish assh*le that is bitching over the ITERNET about grammar.Really? In SW?The troll hub of gamespot.Its really pathetic. And my english is not as nearly as bad as you are trying to make it look.

Or a troll, I won't rule out that possibility. 

Again, use spell check.

I'm reallyg getting tired this.I think I'm gonna have to be the mature one and just let it go.Its just a time wasting cycle. I wont say anything else even if I want to because it will just lead in to more post and more wasted time.I wish you the best.