Bioshock is still over rated imo (edited)...

I think bioshock is appreciated must more true to the vision if you stop thinking of it as an FPS, and begin looking around and seeing it as an interactive experience. This isn't damage control, I don't really care one way or the other if you don't like it....but I think you'd get alot more out of it if you would try and appreciate what they were going for with it. Few games released EVER, have the kind of production value that Bioshock has. It's a classic movie in which you are the main character. whoisryanmack

exactly, I think a lot of the hates don't like as its not your run and gun shooter, if you want that go and play quake or doom.

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

almost every game you ever played was linear.

you learned a new word, and now you use it like a lot of the other kids. linear is not bad by default.

you would get totally lost without it and complain that the game has no clear objective.

The game is top quality

freeload

Yeah but this felt linear in a very forced way.

I mean a level of mario is linear but it feels like you are free to just play in the world and have fun, even though it has a clear start and end and a clear way to get through it most of the time.

With Bioshock it felt like they were literally forcing me against my will to just get to the next bit of story they had set up for me. Outside of actually doing what they wanted when they wanted I just didn't feel there was any way to play in that world at all.

It felt very hollow and souless and I like to play how I want and do what I want in a game world, even when I know ultimately I have to go through the game at some point.

It's hard to explain but there is a difference between a "linear" game like Halo or Goldeneye and a "linear" game like Bioshock.

nah, sorry, you're full of it.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="freeload"]

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way.

freeload

I didn't enjoy it enough to play it past the first hour or so. I shouldn't have to play it for anywhere near that time to start to enjoy it, so if it does actually get better in some magical way then it doesn't really matter.

All my friends agreed too that it was crap and way overrated.

We were just totally dissapointed...

CALM DOWN!!!

I have read through this entire thread, and I am shocked at some people's lack of respect and childish behavior.

The topic creater was stating an opinion, NOT A FACT, and people automatically started insulting him. Come on. There are actually a lot of people defending Bioshock in a mature way and that is how discussions should be. But then you have people coming in here saying he knows nothing about games and that he is just can't comprehend a truly deep game. Haven't you noticed that this should have actually been a good discussion topic, but then you have people coming in hear calling the TC names and insulting his gaming experience just because he does not have the same opinion as you, and that sort of killed the "discussion" part of it and turned it into a bashing thread.

Also to put my 2 cents about the game is that it looks amazingly well done, but it looks and feels more like an interactive movie than an actual video game. It did bring a new experiance to gaming, but some may not like that type of gameplay/storytelling.

then you can even begin to make assumptions about it then can you...an hour indeed...loldaveg1

If a game doesn't entertain you within the hour there's a major problem there.

[QUOTE="daveg1"]then you can even begin to make assumptions about it then can you...an hour indeed...lolFrozenLiquid

If a game doesn't entertain you within the hour there's a major problem there.

you wont get much out of it in the first hour, just some of the scenes are good until you do get further in..

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way.

I didn't feel drawn into or connected to the story or characters at all.

You can't really see what is going on or where you are going half the time.

The bloodlooks rubbish.

I was constantly picking up items but never gave a hoot what they were for and the game never made me feel like I should give a hoot.

Trying to shoot the characters doesn't feel very satisfying when they always do that stupid lunge at you.

The Irish guy that keeps talking to you is bloody annoying.

etc etc etc

I really think this is one of those examples of a game that is just completely over rated and yet everyone is buying into this hype. This game doesn't touch classics like Goldeneye, Halo or even the original Doom games in my opinion (in terms of sheer fun and game flow etc).

It does not deserve the scores it has been getting...

freeload

let me use your logic, today, i saw mp3 on sale at walmart, after looking at the box art, the game looked very boring and linear, i kept looking at the box, still i had no interest in purchasing, the box art was so ugly that this is a prime example of a game that is completely over rated

[QUOTE="freeload"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="freeload"]

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way.

BioShockOwnz

I didn't enjoy it enough to play it past the first hour or so. I shouldn't have to play it for anywhere near that time to start to enjoy it, so if it does actually get better in some magical way then it doesn't really matter.

All my friends agreed too that it was crap and way overrated.

We were just totally dissapointed...

LOL! You're judging a game on its first hour. :|

/thread

Yeah, games are only supposed to be fun at the end.

Just wonderedwhich was the last game that you though did deserve its hype.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="freeload"]

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way.

freeload

I didn't enjoy it enough to play it past the first hour or so. I shouldn't have to play it for anywhere near that time to start to enjoy it, so if it does actually get better in some magical way then it doesn't really matter.

All my friends agreed too that it was crap and way overrated.

We were just totally dissapointed...

If you didn't play it past the first hour then your opinion holdss no weight. And that Irish guy as you put it, is not in the game that much after the first few hours. Come back when you've finished the game, then your opinion might mean something.

Did youturn the quest arrow off? Thats the first thing i did. it makes the game so much better.

Did you get to the part where you harvest or save your first little sister? The game doesn't realy start until then. before that is just a big tutorial. After that you still get things you need to do to progress the story, but your free to muck about in-between that.

Its not overated by this site, but I cant see how it deserves to be 4th place when it knocked Half-Life 2 out of the top 20 ... I say anti-PC consipiracy.Meu2k7

I thought Bioshock was better than Half life 2, at least the story didn't make you fall asleep.

The first hour or so of the game is a basic introduction to the setting - not much happens in that time, you don't really get any powers or any options in terms of what you can do.

You've said that you don't want to keep playing after the first hour - that's fine with us - but don't say that the game is overrated, because you simply can't tell. You have barely scratched the surface of the game, which gets more complicated and more enjoyable with each new area that you enter.

I mean, what did you get up to? Medical Pavilion? You probably haven't even fought your first big daddy yet, or started customising your character.
It's basically the same as saying "The tutorial of Half-Life is dull. The hologram keeps forcing me to do pointless tasks. The game doesn't seem to have a plot. Half-Life is sooo overrated."

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="freeload"]

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way.

freeload

I didn't enjoy it enough to play it past the first hour or so. I shouldn't have to play it for anywhere near that time to start to enjoy it, so if it does actually get better in some magical way then it doesn't really matter.

All my friends agreed too that it was crap and way overrated.

We were just totally dissapointed...

You failed horribly there

10 bucks he did not finish the gameelite_ferns1

I can give you that Bioshock is a bit overrated if you are one of those people who thinks graphics don't matter at all. If you aren't Bioshock earns its 9.0 rating.

The gameplay is a bit genaric, but the music, story, graphics, and voice acting are amazing. It is one of the few games where graphics and sound make up for a little lacking gameplay.

I personally find that he thinks your being forced to go from objective. It's so very true.

Now TC would you kindly actually get some real playtime in before judging the game.

I think GS review of the game is the fairest. This game aint 9.7 etc... The graphics are nice but not MIND BLOWING (and I am playing everything on MAX on the PC version).

The voice acting is very good the soundtrack is ok I guess not my cup of tea... The plot is interesting. The water effects is very cool.. But some places just feels like it is COATED in wax or something... when it aint even WET!!

The character modells beside the big daddies are meh. The plasmid powers are cool but again not really revolutionary cool like for instance Half Life 2 gravity gun.

Yeah I agree it is over rated. Oh yea I am playing the game and yeah I can posts in-game screenshots if needed.

I do sort of see what the TC is talking about - Bioshock was linear, with many predictable scripted events, and the story and gameplay don't really pick up until the sub section (in my opinion) - a third of the way through the game.
The gameplay itself isn't vastly different from most shooters - there are some RPG elements, but they aren't as in-depth as, say, System Shock 2's or Deus Ex's.

Ultimately, the game's strength lies not in its gameplay, but in its story and setting - so if you've only played the first hour or so, you're really missing out on what the game has to offer.

*Edit* As the poster below mentioned, there were far too many fetch quests in the game. While scavenging for parts did fit the setting, these goals partially ruined the pacing of the game.

I really think this is one of those examples of a game that is just completely over rated and yet everyone is buying into this hype.freeload

Right. I guess you're the big cheese when it comes to picking good games. I don't care if someone like you don't like Bioshock but when you start to question other gamer's taste you are just being an idiot.

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way. It's not, you have the option of morality in this game. Do you kill them or save them. And even if, Doom was a great game, and it's a corridor shooter. Sometimes it's nice to just shoot and not have to worry

I didn't feel drawn into or connected to the story or characters at all. Well if you go in with that sort of attitude, then isn't that your fault?

You can't really see what is going on or where you are going half the time. It's Supposed to be scary! How scary would RE4 have been if the charater walked around with a 1000 watt flood light. You supposed to listen. Footsteps. Splashes. Dialog. It's that erie creepy feeling that keeps you tense, and then finnaly something pops up and scares the crap out of you.

The bloodlooks rubbish. Wow, the whole game is almost perfect interms of graphics and art direction, and you have a problem with the blood. Pathetic.

I was constantly picking up items but never gave a hoot what they were for and the game never made me feel like I should give a hoot. So your complaining that you didn't care about the items? Gee, A First aid kit, WTF could that do! A bag of chips? WTF do I do with these? Eat them? That crazy!

Trying to shoot the characters doesn't feel very satisfying when they always do that stupid lunge at you. What do character animations have to do with shooting?

The Irish guy that keeps talking to you is bloody annoying. So Now your judging the game on your personal racisms.

etc etc etc What, did you run out of time? Do you have another great game to dis, or are you just lazy?

I really think this is one of those examples of a game that is just completely over rated and yet everyone is buying into this hype. This game doesn't touch classics like Goldeneye, Halo or even the original Doom games in my opinion (in terms of sheer fun and game flow etc).

It does not deserve the scores it has been getting... Oh you are correct! Yes, out of56 professional reviews, all of them have a 360 bias, and are inflating the score because they own stock in 2K. And here I was thinking conspiracy theroys were dated.

freeload

BTW, What does this have to do with system wars?

[QUOTE="freeload"]

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way.

PBSnipes

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]I think bioshock is appreciated must more true to the vision if you stop thinking of it as an FPS, and begin looking around and seeing it as an interactive experience. This isn't damage control, I don't really care one way or the other if you don't like it....but I think you'd get alot more out of it if you would try and appreciate what they were going for with it. Few games released EVER, have the kind of production value that Bioshock has. It's a classic movie in which you are the main character. freeload

I'm sure there are many people out there who for whatever reasons will enjoy it, but to me, as a game experience, it was just tedious and boring and forced and almost souless.

I just do not get how this game is being so hyped or how it has been getting such high marks.

We were all just like WTF. This is utter crap. Why are people bigging this up. It just plain boring and souless and dull and just so blah.

If this was how all videogames were I could see a future where they never became mainstream or appealed to anyone other than geeks who really don't know anything about having fun in a game world and really being able to play around with the experience etc.

Just not feeling it in the slightest...

Proof you only played the demo. /thread

There's a difference from being overrated to being your opinion. IMO, the game is great but I have enjoyed other games more, for example, Metroid Prime 3. But to call the game overrated is just wrong. The game is full of high production value, wheather it's the story, the gameplay, the music, the atmosphere, etc. Calling it overrated by playing the first hour only is a very poor way of selecting which games are good and which games are bad.luigigreen

I'm sorry, I know that MP3 is sweet and all (I'll admit it can be fun), but I just think that it's more of the same, oh sorry, you have to waggle your arms around this time. My bad.

BioShock is just as good, if not better than the original MP. The other 2 MPs didn't expand the series at all.

Oh, and BTW, this is just a personal quip, but I think that Metroid Prime was the only game that should've had "Prime" in it, because it sounds more badass when you don't have any numbers contradicting the "Prime" part of it..... you know what I mean?

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="freeload"]

It feels like you are led/forced through levels in a totally linear way.

freeload

I didn't enjoy it enough to play it past the first hour or so. I shouldn't have to play it for anywhere near that time to start to enjoy it, so if it does actually get better in some magical way then it doesn't really matter.

All my friends agreed too that it was crap and way overrated.

We were just totally dissapointed...

Would you kindly shut the hell up?

I really think this is one of those examples of a game that is just completely over rated and yet everyone is buying into this hype. This game doesn't touch classics like Goldeneye, Halofreeload

ROFL.

When will people realize that Halo and especially god-awful Goldeneye are average console shooter trash and don't hold a candle to legitimate FPSs?

Bioshock was hyped and overrated on this board.

8.5 I don't care what anyone has to say. I've beaten it twice... blah blah blah... it's a great game, but not a instant classic

So far I do have to agree, Bioshock isn't really what I thought it was going to be. The story is actually pretty good, once you get further in, and all of the customization options are nice. My problem though is that the actual shooting part of this FPS is pretty weak, and the whole respawning instead of dying just completely kills any bit of challenge the game might have presented.TyrantDragon55

To get around it, I played it like almost every other FPS out there. Quicksave, quickload if you die. Still the QS/QL method is another form of "immortality" if you think about it, it just forces you to get the ecounter near perfectly done before moving on versus rushing it. I think the Vita arguement is not as important as some make it out to be, unless you never save period in other games.

[QUOTE="freeload"]I really think this is one of those examples of a game that is just completely over rated and yet everyone is buying into this hype. This game doesn't touch classics like Goldeneye, HaloZeliard9

ROFL.

When will people realize that Halo and especially god-awful Goldeneye are average console shooter trash and don't hold a candle to legitimate FPSs?

When will elitest pc fanboys learn to stop stating their opinion's as facts?