Bioware fans claim that developer broke the law

Best fans ever

People really care so much about these average RPG/shooter series? :?

Bioware forums seem like a lot fun. meetroid8

People don't like being lied to. And whether or not they have a point, that is what is causing all this ME3 fuss.
And the media among which GS is downplaying that aspect of it, infuriating the fans even more.
Hmm.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"] You would actually waste your time and a lawyers time over a video game because it didn't have a few extras? I don't understand that. Eponique

If that's the case Peter Molyneaux would have never released a videogame since the turn of the century.

People don't like being lied to. And whether or not they have a point, that is what is causing all this ME3 fuss.And the media among which GS is downplaying that aspect of it, infuriating the fans even more.Hmm. KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"] You would actually waste your time and a lawyers time over a video game because it didn't have a few extras? I don't understand that. NeonNinja

If that's the case Peter Molyneaux would have never released a videogame since the turn of the century.

I would pay to see the lawyer's face when he asked him.

A lawsuit? Wha? I mean.....really??

I consider my life to be fairly pathetic, but when I see people so upset over a VIDEOGAME ending that they feel the need to take legal action, I really have to wonder. There are much, much more important things in life to be getting in such a fuss over. Jesus man, this is becoming absurd. I hope if a suit is filed it's laughed at and thrown out immediately.

A bunch of basement dwelling Biodrones is the most powerful force in the universe :lol:

Nice work BSN, continue bringing in the lulz.

Stringerboy

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

You dumb nerds let developers believe they were "artists" who had to explore their "creativity" to make their "vision" come alive in the form of video games. All of this because you were in denial and refused to accept the fact that your main hobby is playing with an electronic toy. You reap what you sow and now you moan on the Internet because the obvious outcome of your own stupidity finally came to happen.

Get used to this. It's going to happen again, and again, and again, until you send a clear message to all those developers and let them know that they are making GAMES, not ART, and, therefore, they are not artists. The first step is accepting that you enjoy playing with electronic toys and understanding that there's nothing wrong with that. That's the hard part and it may take several years, if it does happen, of course. Chances are it won't.

skrat_01

The idea that games aren't 'art' or have artist merit is well beyond this, gamesare; they're a form of expression with artistic merit, nothing is going to change that.

It's amusing that straws are still being grasped in response to it, and even better when someone decides to call people nerds via agaming forum post.

And guess what there's good art and bad art, and Bioware fans keep pushing Mass Effect into a region that it isn't; something other than pulp-fantasy-science fiction action.

A lawsuit? Wha? I mean.....really??

I consider my life to be fairly pathetic, but when I see people so upset over a VIDEOGAME ending that they feel the need to take legal action, I really have to wonder. There are much, much more important things in life to be getting in such a fuss over. Jesus man, this is becoming absurd. I hope if a suit is filed it's laughed at and thrown out immediately.

MirkoS77

Well as much as this might be the most absurd stunt of some of the disappointed Mass Effect fans - or should I say "fans" - yet... and as much as it IMO has the least realistic chance to succeed, it is probably the only thing I would like to see to come to fruition. I mean, I can't help but I would like the potential implications of successful lawsuit or investigation by some kind of commission.

Unlike all those charities, petitions, review bombings, videos, cupcakes, flamewars on the official forum and I don't know what else, this would very likely not result in some kind of court's or commission's order to specific performance - e.g. to create new ending(s) more in line with what has been advertised (though ironically, that's what most of the people would actually want), but in penalizing Bioware / EA in the form of some kind of fine.

Aaand I would like that. I would like "somebody" to show these companies and their marketing departments, that there is only so much unjustified or inaccurate hype bordering with false advertising "we" players can take, before some of us start thinking about how to hold these companies liable for their inaccurate statements.

And even if this would not be successful, if the mere idea of lawsuit with customers would discourage at least some of the companies from "over" hyping their games, I think we all would only benefit from that.

So as crazy as it is. I wish 'em luck.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/11081574/1

There's even a guy on page 2 who reckons that he has spoken to a lawyer:lol:

Thoughts?!

Apparently they said there was going to be 16 different endings but do people always take developers pre-release word as Gospel?!

biggest_loser

And I thought cod fans were bad....Chrome-

I'd love to be a lawyer right now so i could nickel and dime these mass effect idiots for all their worth.

Why would die-hard fans of a company go through so much trouble to put it six feet under? Compared to these weirdos, the fanboys on SW are spreading world peace.

Can we just round these people up and shoot them?

They really cannot be allowed to have children.

Well as much as this might be the most absurd stunt of some of the disappointed Mass Effect fans - or should I say "fans" - yet... and as much as it IMO has the least realistic chance to succeed, it is probably the only thing I would like to see to come to fruition. I mean, I can't help but I would like the potential implications of successful lawsuit or investigation by some kind of commission.

Unlike all those charities, petitions, review bombings, videos, cupcakes, flamewars on the official forum and I don't know what else, this would very likely not result in some kind of court's or commission's order to specific performance - e.g. to create new ending(s) more in line with what has been advertised (though ironically, that's what most of the people would actually want), but in penalizing Bioware / EA in the form of some kind of fine.

Aaand I would like that. I would like "somebody" to show these companies and their marketing departments, that there is only so much unjustified or inaccurate hype bordering with false advertising "we" players can take, before some of us start thinking about how to hold these companies liable for their inaccurate statements.

And even if this would not be successful, if the mere idea of lawsuit with customers would discourage at least some of the companies from "over" hyping their games, I think we all would only benefit from that.

So as crazy as it is. I wish 'em luck.

SciFiRPGfan

A lawsuit? Wha? I mean.....really??

I consider my life to be fairly pathetic, but when I see people so upset over a VIDEOGAME ending that they feel the need to take legal action, I really have to wonder. There are much, much more important things in life to be getting in such a fuss over. Jesus man, this is becoming absurd. I hope if a suit is filed it's laughed at and thrown out immediately.

MirkoS77

Being subject to false advertizing is not something to laugh about.

These games cost over 60 bucks a pop. In the UK, it's even more than that. Still even more in Australia and New Zealand.

Asking someone to buy a product on the sole token that's associated with other more well known products within its franchise requires a little more than the name and imagery of the previous products to intuitively be considered another iteration within said franchise. Otherwise you have false advertizing.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

A lawsuit? Wha? I mean.....really??

I consider my life to be fairly pathetic, but when I see people so upset over a VIDEOGAME ending that they feel the need to take legal action, I really have to wonder. There are much, much more important things in life to be getting in such a fuss over. Jesus man, this is becoming absurd. I hope if a suit is filed it's laughed at and thrown out immediately.

Ryouga001

Being subject to false advertizing is not something to laugh about.

These games cost over 60 bucks a pop. In the UK, it's even more than that. Still even more in Australia and New Zealand.

Asking someone to buy a product on the sole token that's associated with other more well known products within its franchise requires a little more than the name and imagery of the previous products to intuitively be considered another iteration within said franchise. Otherwise you have false advertizing.

Bioware Social Network is such a lovely place.

But in perspective you've paid $60 for a game that you've got a minimum of 30 hours out of. Thats gold these days. Who cares that it doesn't have 16 extremely different endings? You still get a lot of value out of it. biggest_loser

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

A lawsuit? Wha? I mean.....really??

I consider my life to be fairly pathetic, but when I see people so upset over a VIDEOGAME ending that they feel the need to take legal action, I really have to wonder. There are much, much more important things in life to be getting in such a fuss over. Jesus man, this is becoming absurd. I hope if a suit is filed it's laughed at and thrown out immediately.

Ryouga001

Being subject to false advertizing is not something to laugh about.

These games cost over 60 bucks a pop. In the UK, it's even more than that. Still even more in Australia and New Zealand.

Asking someone to buy a product on the sole token that's associated with other more well known products within its franchise requires a little more than the name and imagery of the previous products to intuitively be considered another iteration within said franchise. Otherwise you have false advertizing.

Not something to laugh about? When it comes to videogames, yes, it is.

At the end of the day it is just a game. Let's keep things in perspective here. It's not like this "false advertising" led to any major injustice like starving children not getting their meals. Was I disappointed when the trees didn't grow in Fable? Sure. Am I going to hire a lawyer because of it? No. People need to get their priorities straight and deal with it.

Bringing litigation over this is ridiculous, not needed and gives gamers a bad name. Even IF it is found justifiable on legal grounds, is it really worth it? Let it go. I've found generations ago not to take anything developers say to heart and always with a grain of salt. If there was a lawsuit for every false claim this industry has made in the past, there probably wouldn't BE an industry. I don't see how ME3 is exempt from this.

Jeez. Next thing we know there's going to be firebombings of Bioware's offices.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]But in perspective you've paid $60 for a game that you've got a minimum of 30 hours out of. Thats gold these days. Who cares that it doesn't have 16 extremely different endings? You still get a lot of value out of it. Ryouga001

Hey, it's only because of BioWare ruining the ending that children get 80,000$ donated to them. And about 300 cupcakes.

If that ain't a loyal fanbase then I don't know what is.

So they said there would be 16 endings but there aren't? I don't see anything wrong with suing for that. Don't blatantly lie about your products, simple.

Eponique

.. We might as well sue the majority of developers out there that made promises early on in development that didn't come true.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

So they said there would be 16 endings but there aren't? I don't see anything wrong with suing for that. Don't blatantly lie about your products, simple.

biggest_loser

I never played any mass effect however from my understanding they said that your game choices from part 1 and part 2 would be carried over to part 3 and affect the out come of things. Many people held on to that and then they gave them an unsatisfied ending. I would understand if they're mad because of that if it's true. Though this is taking it a bit too far.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

So they said there would be 16 endings but there aren't? I don't see anything wrong with suing for that. Don't blatantly lie about your products, simple.

sSubZerOo

.. We might as well sue the majority of developers out there that made promises early on in development that didn't come true.

To be fair they made a pretty big list on the BSN about things that were less-than-accurate -- some of those things COULD be considered false advertising.

anyone wanna bet dreman started the lawsuit? Havent seen him on the forums since the 'cinematics only' DLC was announced

.. We might as well sue the majority of developers out there that made promises early on in development that didn't come true.

sSubZerOo

We probably could, but no fanbase is as rabid as Biodrones, as was shown in the ME3 hype thread and the ME3 ending discussion thread and the previous BioWare's games threads.

Well, at least they're showing that they are willing to stand up for something.

anyone wanna bet dreman started the lawsuit? Havent seen him on the forums since the 'cinematics only' DLC was announced

wis3boi

Nah, he was spouting crap trying to justify the complete lack of sense that the ending was even when he and his sh*tty arguments were brutally trashed. No way he could be the one who's going against bioware.