Bioware fans claim that developer broke the law

Not something to laugh about? When it comes to videogames, yes, it is.

At the end of the day it is just a game.MirkoS77

And money out of your pocket.

Videogames are still a product that people consume. That makes their integrity as a an advertized product just as subject to legal review as any other product out there.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]Not something to laugh about? When it comes to videogames, yes, it is.

At the end of the day it is just a game.Ryouga001

And money out of your pocket.

Videogames are still a product that people consume. That makes their integrity as a an advertized product just as subject to legal review as any other product out there.

Can we just round these people up and shoot them?

They really cannot be allowed to have children.

DarkLink77

They're crazy I tell ya!

So they said there would be 16 endings but there aren't? I don't see anything wrong with suing for that. Don't blatantly lie about your products, simple.

Eponique

That 16 different endings seems to be a myth. I've followed several discussions on BSN where people have asked a source in which a Bioware employee said that there are 16 different endings. No one so far has offered any sources, only couple strategy guides.

This whole thing about Mass Effect and EA really shows how pathetic most people in this world are.

You actually want these brats to succeed? What would THEY learn from it all? Sometimes you can't always get what you want.biggest_loser

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.. We might as well sue the majority of developers out there that made promises early on in development that didn't come true.

N30F3N1X

We probably could, but no fanbase is as rabid as Biodrones, as was shown in the ME3 hype thread and the ME3 ending discussion thread and the previous BioWare's games threads.

Well, at least they're showing that they are willing to stand up for something.

And fanboys where defending Sony when people were going to sue them due to the removal of the Other OS but it seems we can sue for the lack of 4D too.

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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]Not something to laugh about? When it comes to videogames, yes, it is.

At the end of the day it is just a game.MirkoS77

And money out of your pocket.

Videogames are still a product that people consume. That makes their integrity as a an advertized product just as subject to legal review as any other product out there.

Using the word biodrones makes you sound braindead. Especially when you're just as big a fanboy yourself of another company.SkyWard20

I don't take all the **** they throw at me like, you know, actual braindead people (biodrones) do ;)

Most developer's lies. I remember Capcom saying Resident Evil 5 was twice as long as Resident Evil 4. Those bastards

Most developer's lies. I remember Capcom saying Resident Evil 5 was twice as long as Resident Evil 4. Those bastards

The_Gaming_Baby

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Most developer's lies. I remember Capcom saying Resident Evil 5 was twice as long as Resident Evil 4. Those bastards

biggest_loser

:lol: Too bad they don't have anyone to rage at anymore.

thank you mass effect dorks for officially once and for all proving games are not art.

if you see art and have a negative reaction you lump it because maybe the artists vision is different than yours.

if you complain and it gets changed it is just a consumer product.

nice job crybabies.

Bioware said there will be 16 endings? Never heard that.SaltyMeatballs

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/10/mass1525-effect-3-cas5ey-fdsafdhudson-interviewae.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

"...because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don't have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C."

So they said there would be 16 endings but there aren't? I don't see anything wrong with suing for that. Don't blatantly lie about your products, simple.

Eponique

i wanted them to change the ending but the cupcake and this is really beyond stupidity

thank you mass effect dorks for officially once and for all proving games are not art.

if you see art and have a negative reaction you lump it because maybe the artists vision is different than yours.

if you complain and it gets changed it is just a consumer product.

nice job crybabies.

Riverwolf007

this gotta be one of the most dumb posts ever. movies and music are considered "art" and that happens all the time, resident evil movies are crap and do you think they are less crap because my point of view is different that the crappy point of view of their director? it happens when your so called "art" is treated like a product for the same people that made it. Do you think most movie producers, music artists and game developers treat their game as art? (there are many excepctions though)

And why you are so desperate for games to be called art, what does it change? you will not be more "culturized" for it xD

thank you mass effect dorks for officially once and for all proving games are not art.

if you see art and have a negative reaction you lump it because maybe the artists vision is different than yours.

if you complain and it gets changed it is just a consumer product.

nice job crybabies.

Riverwolf007

thank you mass effect dorks for officially once and for all proving games are not art.

if you see art and have a negative reaction you lump it because maybe the artists vision is different than yours.

if you complain and it gets changed it is just a consumer product.

nice job crybabies.

Riverwolf007

Please. Stop saying this is some sort of violation of artistic integrity. The entire reason Mass Effect 3 turned out so badly is because EA was policing all of the story directions the plot was going in. If all of the writer decisions are compromised by the production executives, then there really isn't any artistic merit to violate here.

Take a look at what Mac Walters put together and compare to every single story element pitched in ME3. Do you honestly believe this is where he was heading?

The entire reason Mass Effect 3 turned out so badly >Ryouga001

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Bioware said there will be 16 endings? Never heard that.Vaasman

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/10/mass1525-effect-3-cas5ey-fdsafdhudson-interviewae.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

"...because we have the ability to build the endings out in a way that we don't have to worry about eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C."

Bioware said there will be 16 endings? Never heard that.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Bioware said there will be 16 endings? Never heard that.topsemag55

they said do, apparently changing a small image in the ending constitutes a whole "new ending"

ME3 as a whole did not turn out badly. millerlight89

Yeah. Yeah it did.

More functional shooting mechanics does not a good story make. Just about every single plot point and twist violated the build-up from the games before it. That makes for a pretty crappy story--which is the main selling point of the game.

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So they said there would be 16 endings but there aren't? I don't see anything wrong with suing for that. Don't blatantly lie about your products, simple.

Eponique

I believe they are very minor in terms of differences from one another (i.e. what you choose to do with the reapers at the end, your military readiness level etc). 16, but very similar.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Bioware said there will be 16 endings? Never heard that.Krelian-co

they said do, apparently changing a small image in the ending constitutes a whole "new ending"

It reminds me any sort of customization. Just take Borderlands for example. I think it was advertised as having a million different weapons when in reality its the same dozen weapons with a different color sheme, or a different site, ect.

Its all promotional stuff with highy exaggerated numbers. Nobody should take it seriously.

The LOST Tv show IMO had the worst ending in the history of story telling. The producers also made statements of how great it was going to be, how it was going to answer all questions ever raised in the history of the show. Guess what? None of that happened. I moved on with my life real fast & yet still love ths series.

The funny thing here is those statements Casey made about the endings were made very close to ME3s release date. Lets be honest here folks . . . . we all would have bought it if those promises weren't ever made in the place.

In fact me & everybody else made up our minds on whether to buy ME3 way before any of those statements were made, so in no way do i feel cheated. I knew, along with everybody else that i was getting ME3 5 years ago after finishing ME1.

It reminds me any sort of customization. Just take Borderlands for example. I think it was advertised as having a million different weapons when in reality its the same dozen weapons with a different color sheme, or a different site, ect.

Its all promotional stuff with highy exaggerated numbers. Nobody should take it seriously.

brucecambell

Anything developers/publishers/hardware companies say I've found to never take as gospel. Let's see here, I remember:

• before the N64 came out, I seem to recall there were claims that it would be able to produce Jurassic Park renders in real-time.
• wasn't it recently said the PS4 will be able to do Avatar visuals in real-time as well?
• let's not all forget Peter M's touted features for Fable, where barely any came true.
• one word: SPORE. Christ if there was ever a case for a lawsuit for false advertising, this was it.

I'm sure I'm missing a ton. Let the litigation commence!

With video games as large as ME3, it's difficult to tell which is official announcements and which are just comments by the development team.

You guys ever wonder why developers usually don't say anything about their game unless it's authorized by the publisher? Look no further than OP's link.

While the developer blatantly lied about the number of endings, I don't think that constitutes false advertising. I mean it's not like it's called "Mass Effect: The Game of 16 Endings."

Vaasman

Yeah, but the entire series was sold on the promise that your decisions would matter, which they don't. However, poeple knew that after ME2, so they should have learned. Both ME buyers and EA/Bioware are at fault for the success and subsequent dissapointment with the turdtastic ME series.