Bioware WTF !!! Don't buy Andromeda * UPDATED

Had the loading bug a few times and the bad guys definitely are more powerful later in the game, occasionally ridiculously OP.

The thing that annoys me more than anything in this game is the minority political agenda. Everyone is equal in the future, as long as you're not a heterosexual male. Just look at the romance options, you can hook up with multiple Asari, Turians, Angarrans and at least two male humans but there is only one female human (Cora) as a love interest, from what I've seen anyway. Travel to another galaxy to give your species a new start but no one can have babies because everyone is shagging their own gender or completely different species. It's like the people behind this can't comprehend how propagation actually works.

I always carry a shotgun, it's my go to weapon when something big comes along. I love popping heads with my Black Widow but it just doesn't cut it against the big things.

If the game is too hard for you, then you are doing it wrong. I have no problem killing big kett enemies, because I am playing agressivly and using my abilities properply. My vanguard guild can instantly restore his shield as soonest he loses them and killing enemies in melee gives me free health and free shields. Also, most enemies die quick as hell from my crafted dhan shotgun and crafted equalizer on hardcore difficulty. Its already getting to easy for me, so I am going to pick insanity next time. Keep in mind crafting your own weapons is far better than using non custom weapons.

Did you even read my post? At what point did I even so much as insinuate that the game is "too hard for me"?

If you had actually read what I typed you'd have noticed that I use a Black Widow sniper rifle, which is only available through crafting. In fact all my guns and armour are crafted because it's the only way to have augs I want added to them, with the exception of my Piranha V shot gun which I prefer for the full auto option.

Eh Mass Effect has always been about unifying a multi-racial community against the larger threats of life, so the idea that ME:A is the tipping point leading into that agenda seems silly. Plus didn't ME2 and 3 only have 1 straight human if you were a female character, and it was the worst character?

Unless I guess you romanced Kaiden from 1, but lets be real, no one romanced Kaiden.

You said that late game enemies were op, but that's simply not true. I have no problem dealing with late tier enemies.

It's not too hard. It's just frustrating. If you die, sometime quick saves won't load. Minor details like this what makes this game infuriating. Also I noticed that enemies don't take damage from falls while you do. I had thrown a kett from a f*cking mountain, meanwhile my objective was clearing the building from ALL ketts. What was my surprise when i couldn't complete my objective as i couldn't find a last enemy until I remembered that kett i kicked from the mountain. Thanks god I had a sniper rifle and manged to see that tiny spec of a kett well and alive at the bottom of the mountain, who somehow managed to survive a fall from hundreds of feet. Is that supposed to be a good gameplay to you? If enemies don't take damage from fall, it makes biotic pulling powers pretty useless. Bad game design.

I don't know what is good about the game because all footage I see is horrible. A quest that can't be finished. A quest that was finished but magically re-appeared in your questlog. You die in acid? No you magically fly to a random spot and are at full health. That person in your bed when you start the game? Yeah he isn't supposed to be in the game until chapter 3. Oh your dad is going to hold this door open that was already... open... and not moving... before he walked over there to hold it?

I'm sure there are good ideas buried somewhere underneath... but I can't justify paying for a game that is this unfinished, unless it's filled with funny bugs, not annoying bugs. So is the multiplayer at least good even if you don't pay extra (ugh)? I was looking forward to this game but I'm going to wait until it's either somewhat fixed or in a bargain bin. I hope they can somehow salvage this.

I bought it and am enjoying it. The game froze on me once and I've had some FPS drops during early story cinematics but so far I'm enjoying it. I will say that I'm still early in the game and I've only seen two added sentient races for the entire galaxy; the rest being known races from the trilogy.

Hoping to see more but so far the game is fun. Not really sure what all the hate is about.

I have my issues with the game, but as I was not expecting much from it in the first place, I am having a blast with it.

I am playing a close-combat character, and having a blast; I use an SMG with infinite ammo (one of the Remnant-tech guns) to rip away shields and armor then use an Asari sword to kill them in one or two hits, my shield regenerates every hit. Pretty fun, not too easy not too hard. Every time I die, it's my own fault, that's the perfect kind of difficulty.

Anyone expecting a ME reboot and looking for the franchise to restart should look elsewhere; anyone that wants a fun but ultimately forgetable romp in the ME universe will have a good time. It's a ME game that capitalizes on it's own franchise without really doing it any kind of service; it's like ME 1-3 were a book written by this awesome father, the father passed away and said "Son, use my name, write books and make money off my name" and the son was like "Meh, OK" and we got ME: A and it's fun because it's reminiscent of the father's work, but it's not the same because the son just can't write like the father.

Remember: it's just a game, it won't rape your cat, it won't break your heart.

I'm still going to pick up the Xbox One version of the game myself today.

Sounds like the difficulty problem is the same as Insanity or whatever in the first game. Difficulty ramps up stupidly high after the "tutorial" and is frustratingly difficult to get anywhere (especially with korgan battlemasters or whatever).

Suck it up and lower the difficulty. Learn the game, then go back on another playthrough and do it on hard.

Vanguard in ME3 was near-broken in terms of power. I spammed that charge-detonation combo and felt like a god.

Ive never played any in the series.

This more like an unintentional game issue rather than feature. So, not bad game design. Also, you don't take fall damage, when you leave the mission area the game teleports you back without shields. It seems you know nothing about the game. You just wanna be "cool" by joining the hate train. And yes you were complaining about the difficult of the game and now since we showed how easy the game can be, you pretend as if you never said something like this.

While I think the TC (and most people in general) are being hyperbolic about how buggy this game is, I do agree that waiting for more patches before picking this up is not a bad idea.

I also agree that the new Alien races in Andromeda are pretty lame. People complain there are only really two new races, but I'd argue that is a good thing given how boring the two new ones are.

However, I think its a good game overall. People are obviously focusing on the bad, but its a huge, long game with a LOT of good stuff as well, that imo, easily outweighs the bad stuff.

I bought the game but haven't played it yet , I just want to know one thing .... is it worse than DAI ?

@DocSanchez: Glad to hear your opinion, don't let the apologist- authoritarians silence your speech.. If you wanted that there is a forum called neogaf that will ban you for having a contrary opinion. Which honestly, makes this forum a blast. You can have an opinion without getting dog-piled or banned.

Personally I haven't played the game, and wont. I loved the first ME game, but after me2 took out the rpg, and after dragon age 2 did the same.. (although I liked the story from me2, I own 3, but never played it). Yeah I have sworn off bioware. I tried to give them a second chance with DA:I, and it was the wrong decision. The game was like a mmo, not a rpg ala da:o.

The writing was on the wall when the founders left to make beer, and the studio got taken over by sjws. The same thing happened with Beamdog and the baldurs gate expansion. They let a cringy feminist write the script and the game was full of 4th wall breaking bull crap of putting stupid present day extreme fringe social issues in a medieval setting. I am sure me:a is full of that too from what I have seen. As for "they are explorers", so were star trek ship crews, but they weren't all cringy teen like characters, they were professionals like in the original me trilogy.

Sjws don't do good writing because writing good plots is "patriarchy and misogynist"...lada lada lada... at least according to buzzfeed and sarkesian. lol.

Here is Bioware at their best.

If you can't see which ones, i feel sorry for you :P

well, that depends on what you find important. I think ME:A solves some of DA:I's biggest problems - the side quests are generally better in ME:A, and the stuff you do in them makes more sense in the context of the story. less busy work overall (with planet scanning/mining being the only exception, though its not very prominent). I also think it has better combat than DA:I.

However, I think DA:I's overarching story and characters were a bit better overall. Some of the side stories in ME:A are good but the main storyline is pretty underwhelming, though it has some good missions.

They can be OP, that doesn't make the game difficult, it means some enemies have a tendency to do more damage than they should. As an example Raider snipers can take your entire shield down with a single shot were as I can only take 2/3rds of their shield down, even though I'm heavily spec'd for sniping.

They are snipers, what did you expect. Also, if you think you don't do enough damage then you haven't build your character properly or maybe you should stick to normal.

The ending was completely shit in DA inquisition without the tresspasser. I don't know about the ending of this game since I still have a lot left. I have been playing since launch, but I am trying to do every quest in the game

buggy=/= broken. I hate how gamers use the word broken nowadays. the game is still playable and doesnt cause hardware problems

Game is fucking awesome, op you got nfi like all the other brain dead haters.

@Midnightshade29: thank you. I appreciate people thinking I'm not "playing the game right" (as - surprisingly enough, I'm playing it like a Mass Effect game and my attempts to change tack have not been fortuitous so far) but I think the new team is pretty much the problem with the game.

The asari. Woe betide you find them attractive, so we will make them all look the exact same. Only "peebee" (Yeah, great name for a character you want to take seriously) looks different. They took one of the most bite the back of your hand gorgeous women I've ever seen for voice (Natalie Dormer) and made her character look the exact frumpy same as all the other asari. Seriously, look at the bit part asari around - the same. Why? Because of shit like "objectivity" (yeah we need less of that in fantasy games). Can't find a fantasy woman beautiful!

Take a unique design for krogan females and remove it, dress them all exactly like the men. Why? 52 genders nonsense. That's why there is little difference between men and women in the game. Dressing almost exactly the same. Oh lots of different hair colours though, just none of them natural looking or drawn well.

This is tumblr. It's all badly written. To follow up the original trilogy was simplicity itself, yet they dropped the ball. The idea isn't even bad. Mankind goes to a new galaxy. So what happens then? meet new civilizations? well...one, and they don't have much in the way of civilization to delve into but that's okay.

Jesus. Imagine if instead of that, mankind got there and there were tons, and they were under the thrall of a star wars esque Empire? Writes itself.

How do you like it?

Please dont mix your political views with gaming. I dont sjw crap either, but that doesnt stop me from enjoying the game.

No, the two alien races are actually used well.

The angarians are used to mirror the Mily Way races own struggles, and to show them a mirror on themselves. And the squadmate is the best of the game.

The kett are the foil to the Andromeda Initiative, they are the bad version of them, and the Archon is the kett pathfinder, and as he is says, Sara's rival.

@thepclovingguy: If a developer mixes their political views with the game, so will I. Don't police me.

yea they are used fine, I just think the Angarians are boring to talk to and look kinda dumb, and the Kett are just generic space enemy #312 pulled from any shitty Marvel movie.

and remember, I like this game.

So you dislike the game because their political stance differs from yours.

Charles Dickens intertwined his political views of socaity into his stories and as we know he's one of the greatest story-tellers since M. Night Shyamalan.

Akira Kurosawa for the large part treated female characters as borderline Satan. If you look at the story-boards he even shapes there heightened eye's like horns with slant yellow lizard eyes.

He also didn't like military technology and makes references to the faceless natures of guns and nuclear bombs.

These people were talented duh. Bioware think they are on that level, but dey ain't.

@thepclovingguy: Nope. I made it perfectly clear to you that their stance on transgendered is not just fine by me: it is of interest to me. But they write terribly. Their issues are crap. Falsely inserted. Badly imposed. Nonsensical.

Like uninspired says, look at Dickens. Or Orwell. They wrote left wing politics that felt coherent and true.

The last thing I need from you is information on how to play a game, or anything along the lines of "git gud noob". I likely been gaming longer than you've been on this earth. Mass Effect is anything but a difficult game and the mechanics are simple, it's designed for a casual audience after all, but I know poor balancing when I see it.

I can take down an Architect in a few minutes without loosing my shields once but a sniper can take my shields out with a single hit, something wrong with the balance there. Or do you actually think that a half starved raider sniper should hit harder than a giant robot? If it was balanced to that sniper, then the Architect should be vaporising the player's character, shields and all, with a single blast.

@uninspiredcup: @DocSanchez: Your expectations of a videogame's story and writing are way high!

You guys srsly compared Kurosava and Dickens with Bioware?! *chuckles* c'mon!

I must say, my disappointment with this game set in the moment I found out that Bioware's B-team that did the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer developed it. It doesn't help the game is the end result of 5 years and $40 million in development costs. Right off the bat I saw what a unpolished and sloppy game it was compared to previous games. The first couple hours were surely a bore to say the least, I wasn't sure whether this could be a game I would want to finish. And I didn't expect to either given the unflattering reviews it's received, but given my past love for Mass Effect games, I had to see what went wrong for myself, so I'm going into this with some checked expectations.

That being said, I'm a bit relieved by my progress so far. Once I achieved the Pathfinder rank, set down on Eos, got my Nomad, started exploring the planet, colonized my first planet, recruited a few more to the crew, learned about their backstories, the game is certainly opening up in a good way for me. Picking the right weapons to research and develop makes the combat feel better. I'm still getting a feel for the game's many various menus and ways of doing things, and again there's still some very sloppy aspects to it, but I nonetheless am having fun with it so far.

Granted, people are rightfully pissed, I'm not there myself but I kind of hope that sentiment out there brings Bioware to rectify some of the blemishes to the game. I probably started playing post patch when some of the horrendous autonomous AI behavioral issues were talked about, but nothing ruins it for me. Would be nice to see character animations improve, facial animation quality is hit and miss most the time, but I enjoy the lore of the world and what character interactions divulge for the story and the game's universe. Something great can be salvaged here if the developers keep up at it, I just hope sales and or pressure from gaming community give meaningful constructive feedback they can work on to shape things up right.

Now, it's worth noting though what the developer aims for the game are. I haven't touched the multiplayer yet, but I imagine that's an essential component to this game, and probably why Bioware picked the ME3 multiplayer team to work on the game. I imagine doing squad missions might bring new life into things, offer rewards to bring into my SP game, or so I hope; like I said, haven't touched that part yet, but I'm hoping it's more meaningful than how ME3 MP basically provided marginal War Assets for the final epic battle at the end of the game. I imagined EA wanted their own Destiny/Division style game, a game that mixed SP and MP characteristics through its game and world, and this is EA's crack at it. I imagine, if they want to expand on this game and the series' direction, it's going to go in that direction. Let's not also forget, taking big steps to a more MP infused game can come at sacrifices, and get off to a rough start. Some games have done great jobs at this, Destiny for instance, despite it's problems, is one of the most addictive games I played all gen. The Division was maybe Ubisoft's best job so far of mixing SP & MP into their world. Of course, Ubisoft failed in other regards, the AC series for instance comes to mind. Games of such design are still works in progress, so I'm a bit forgiving on that ground, for now; again, haven't touched the multiplayer yet.

But, I refuse to be pissed about the state of Andromeda considering the big changes in who is working on the ME games and the change in scope for those games. This is a first real effort for a new team, with a familiar franchise but a new type of game overall, and I'd rather see this new direction grow, see them attack sequels with the same kind of design, and build upon it. Granted, I'd like to see more polish, and I feel more experience with the same team working on a similar style game will naturally bring that. If people overreact, I worry EA could be reactionary, opt for an SP-only game in the style of the older games with a new team, and that can be a flip of a coin the might turn up bad, if not worse, and spell doom for the series. I say, keep the course, let this new direction mature as it naturally will, and hope for improvements. Let's not forget, ME1 was a very sloppy unpolished game by many respects, and I liked how by ME2 and ME3 how polished the gameplay got, how much better the writing got, how much more richer the universe got.

Come on op, your rant is about how much you suck at the game on hard difficulty..................................Its you not the game

Aside from some bugs, it's great on PC. Yeah they could've delayed the game to fix the animations and the performance on consoles, which EA is to blame as they were worried about their fiscal year rather than the game being polished.

I don't think so. Portal and Portal 2 for example have exemplary story-telling, even if you see the twist coming 6 miles away, a 5 year old baby or an 80 year old man who's never touched a video game before can pick it up, get it, and enjoy the hell out of it. That's what the best Pixar movies do, universal appeal with a high quality bar.

Planescape Torment is better than alot of fantasy books, the story-telling itself is almost purely what holds it up, the gameplay around it is pretty terrible.

Even if the games you mentioned are objectively great at story-telling, it doesn't change the fact that gaming industry is no way near cinema or literature, when I play a videogame I lower my expectations, after all I'm not watching a movie made by some great director.

Btw, this is the kinda double standard that's happening, if you're holding Bioware to Kurosava standards, then you should have the same standard for all the other games.

OP be like I don't play games on anything but hard difficulty like some wannabe tough guy. Boy did that backfire lol

Get rekt

Having finished the game today, I've been trying to summarise in my head what I think of it overall... especially being a massive fan of the original trilogy.

Overall I enjoyed it (especially the story missions towards the end were pretty cool & really ended the game on a high note for me), but there were definitely times where I struggled to get through it & felt like I was just going through the motions. As I expected (and hoped wouldn't be the case when Bioware said Andromeda would be more open-world then the previous games), the open world parts were a downer for me. It started out OK, when you first arrive at a new world, it's cool. But it eventually grew tiresome doing the same thing over & over to make the worlds "viable".

And the other main gripe I had with the game was the side quest missions - too many uninteresting fetch quests. One mission was ridiculous, where I had to literally run backwards & forwards around one area talking to person after person, then had to travel to the other side of the freaking galaxy (between the space flight, then driving in the rover to the point on the map & then walking, it takes ages!) & when I got there, I only had to have a 1 minute conversation with the dude & then I had to go all the way back to where I just came from!!! Was ridiculously bad mission design (I wish the devs would've played abit of Witcher 3 to see how to make proper side quests!).

Anyway, there was a lot to like too. The combat was fun and there is definitely some cool set piece moments too. And the characters did eventually grow on me (most of them anyway). But anyway, I enjoyed it overall. But this game could've been so much better! No way it's as good as any of the original Trilogy.

When you hire based on privilege and not talent.

Also:

But that's not a fact. And I directly implied Portal 1/2 were of Pixar quality, they strive and succeed at universal appeal through high quality rather than pandering. It's the gaming equivalent of a excellent family movie.

Not sure what you mean by double standard, we are bombarded with media telling us how incredible Bioware are, putting them a pedestal as thee premiere story-teller. I took your generalized statement as someone dismissing the mediums potential by citing two examples I would argue are counter to that. You can disagree with that, but it certainly isn't hypocritical.

When it comes to Bioware themselfs I'm of the opinion they bought into their own hype.

@PinchySkree said:

When you hire based on privilege and not talent.

Also:

That guy is a complete scumbag, what gets me though is that people actually support his views and claim that he has the right to air them.

Something else about the MA:A team, the lead character 'animator' is better know for her feminist views and her "I hate men" Youtube video than her animation ability. She's on record stating she was surprised when she got the job as she had never animated before and hadn't coded for several years prior to her appointment.

This is what is making Bioware a laughing stock.

Fortunately they do have some talented people in the company, the planet environments, shooting mechanics and aliens are proof of that. Such a shame that their support for open racism and misandry is more important to them.

@PinchySkree: goes without saying, they stood behind this man until the end.

Looks like another trash thread created by jhon, you know when someone sucks ass as a gamer is when they **** and whine about the difficulty in a game. No seriously stop gaming, cause you're the cancer that is plaguing gamers trying to enjoy gaming.

My wife just bought me the Deluxe Edition for a surprise, so I guess I'll find out soon.

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