Black Ops: Declassified Had A 5 Month Dev Cycle

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#1 PSP107
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Despite announcing the game alongside the reveal of the PS Vita, Sony failed to show off anything on Black Ops: Declassfied as late as Gamescom this year.

There could be a reason for this, however.

Internet sleuth Superannuation revealed on Twitter that development on Black Ops: Declassified didn't really start at Nihilistic Software until Resistance: Burning Skies had shipped.

The latter released in May, giving the team at Nihilistic a 4-5 window to develop a Black Ops PS Vita game to release alongside the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of Black Ops 2.

Superannuation then goes on to point out that Call Of Duty 3 - which is considered one of the worst Call Of Duty games and was developed by Treyarch - only had an 8 month development cycle for five different platforms.

How true this is it's hard to say, but Superannuation is often spot-on with these things and - honestly - it would explain a lot"

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1678707/black_ops_declassified_had_a_5_month_dev_cycle_report.html

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#2 EPaul
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Not Surprising from looking at the gameplay

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#3 Meeeper282
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explains why it's so terrible

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#4 freedomfreak
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Develop it. Ship it. Nothing more, nothing less.
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#5 R4gn4r0k
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Develop it. Ship it. Nothing more, nothing less. freedomfreak

that's what makes it so good

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#6 FlamesOfGrey
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I heard they developed it at the same time as Resistance Burning Skies. Either way, Nihilistic shouldn't have been given either IP.
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#7 Gue1
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they built the game in 5 months, maybe nihilistic are actually a good developer if given more time and a decent budget.

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#8 FlamesOfGrey
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they built the game in 5 months, maybe nihilistic are actually a good developer if given more time and a decent budget.

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They had more time for Resistance Burning Skies and it's much worse then Declassified.
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#9 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

they built the game in 5 months, maybe nihilistic are actually a good developer if given more time and a decent budget.

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They had more time for Resistance Burning Skies and it's much worse then Declassified.

Wow. Imagine what they can do if they only have 1 month.
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#10 Malta_1980
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At first I was happy a COD for PSV, then I saw pics/vids and lost interest... Reviews are clearly showing Sony just tried to have a rushed COD title prior holidays hoping to shift more units..

Lets hope Killzone will be a good fps :)

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#11 LongZhiZi
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Hmm, believe the developer or some random nobody on the internet?...hmmm....

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The studio added that Activision's central audio group was very helpful in capturing the authentic audio for weapons in the game and that development by Activision started about a year ago and Nihilistic were brought in shortly thereafter.

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#12 super600  Moderator
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Wow!:lol:

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Nihilistic should just disappear.

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Despite announcing the game alongside the reveal of the PS Vita, Sony failed to show off anything on Black Ops: Declassfied as late as Gamescom this year.

There could be a reason for this, however.

Internet sleuth Superannuation revealed on Twitter that development on Black Ops: Declassified didn't really start at Nihilistic Software until Resistance: Burning Skies had shipped.

The latter released in May, giving the team at Nihilistic a 4-5 window to develop a Black Ops PS Vita game to release alongside the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of Black Ops 2.

Superannuation then goes on to point out that Call Of Duty 3 - which is considered one of the worst Call Of Duty games and was developed by Treyarch - only had an 8 month development cycle for five different platforms.

How true this is it's hard to say, but Superannuation is often spot-on with these things and - honestly - it would explain a lot"

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1678707/black_ops_declassified_had_a_5_month_dev_cycle_report.html

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#15 madskills6117
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Despite its flaws I actually enjoyed RBS. I still haven't played declassified yet but I think Sony/Activision should've turned to Sony Bend to make CoD considering the importance of it.

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#16 lamprey263
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why should they bother, lets just say everybody with a Vita buys it it's still nothing compared to what they're making on the Xbox 360, PS3, PC, Wii U... but not everyone with a Vita is going to buy it, even if it were the best game ever released on the Vita, so are we really surprised?
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#17 lx_theo
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Oh... Activision. How typical.

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#18 Grawse
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You would think this is great news, isn't more dev time than normal a good thing for CoD?
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#19 WTA2k5
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Call of Duty: Black Ops: Declassified 2 coming March 2013.

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#20 Zeviander
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:lol: And it will probably be the Vita's best selling game.
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#21 p4s2p0
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Came out good so they can't be that bad of a dev.
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Came out good so they can't be that bad of a dev.p4s2p0

I hate MC, but a 29% metacritic average is not good.

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#23 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Came out good so they can't be that bad of a dev.p4s2p0
Good? Black Ops Declassified and Burning Skies are your idea of good?
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:lol: And it will probably be the Vita's best selling game.Zeviander

There wouldn't be enough faces for me to palm in this world if that's true...

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I got a feeling this is going to be the Vita's E.T game. You know, everyone likes the series, see's it's on a handheld, buys the handheld with the game, realizes it's absolutely terrible, regrets buying it and spreads the world on how bad it all is.

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#26 Grawse
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]Came out good so they can't be that bad of a dev.charizard1605
Good? Black Ops Declassified and Burning Skies are your idea of good?

Cows have extremely low standards.
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29 on Metacritic...Yikes!

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I got a feeling this is going to be the Vita's E.T game. You know, everyone likes the series, see's it's on a handheld, buys the handheld with the game, realizes it's absolutely terrible, regrets buying it and spreads the world on how bad it all is.

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And then all the vita's will be moved to a landfill.

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#29 super600  Moderator
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29 on Metacritic...Yikes!

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The MC score will continue dropping.

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[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

29 on Metacritic...Yikes!

super600

The MC score will continue dropping.

Yeah, especially with what I saw on Gamespot Live. They try to add length to the game with no checkpoints and insane difficulty.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

29 on Metacritic...Yikes!

PhazonBlazer

The MC score will continue dropping.

Yeah, especially with what I saw on Gamespot Live. They try to add length to the game with no checkpoints and insane difficulty.

If GS reviews the game the game will get in the 2-3 range.

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#32 15strong
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Sony dropped the ball. They had a real opportunity to sell some serious systems.

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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]Came out good so they can't be that bad of a dev.charizard1605
Good? Black Ops Declassified and Burning Skies are your idea of good?

Rbs was a bit of a let down with no clans or taunts like psp had but cod is my fav shooter on portable now.
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#34 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"]Came out good so they can't be that bad of a dev.p4s2p0
Good? Black Ops Declassified and Burning Skies are your idea of good?

Rbs was a bit of a let down with no clans or taunts like psp had but cod is my fav shooter on portable now.

I'm glad you are enjoying your purchase, but it seems that you have very poor taste in games, then. Or at the very least, deviant taste in games.
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#35 todd2r_Partdeux
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The new PSVita campaign is "console quality on the go". If this is console quality on the go, then fuk our consoles must suck a$$. Also, theres a map on this game called "Nukehouse" lol. Really??? "Nukehouse"??? They couldnt do "Nuketown", so they made "Nukehouse"? :lol:

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#36 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Good? Black Ops Declassified and Burning Skies are your idea of good?

Rbs was a bit of a let down with no clans or taunts like psp had but cod is my fav shooter on portable now.

I'm glad you are enjoying your purchase, but it seems that you have very poor taste in games, then. Or at the very least, deviant taste in games.

Only poor taste I am aware of is insulting someone else's because it is different than yours.
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The new PSVita campaign is "console quality on the go". If this is console quality on the go, then fuk our consoles must suck a$$. Also, theres a map on this game called "Nukehouse" lol. Really??? "Nukehouse"??? They couldnt do "Nuketown", so they made "Nukehouse"? :lol:

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Nuke house is a good level. Fast paced like it is on home console.
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Really, I don't get Activision's logic with this. They had a game that could have been a potential killer app for the Vita and something that they could have easily racked in the money with, and they hand it off to a developer that has a spotty record and was given only five months to develop it.

Activision, why not give this game to a team at Treyarch? Give it to the team that worked on the Wii games and see what happens. The result can't be any worse. At least the Wii games were playable and got pretty good reviews. Hell, I'm sure the Wii team would have don great things with more powerful hardware.

But intstead, Activision cheaped out and relied on the COD name to sell the game. This game should have been given proper attention and given to a team that would have developed it properly.

Activsion shot themselves in the foot with this game, since the hype pretty much died. Plus, it looks like Sonyl also lost since they were banking on this game to be a major title this year that would have pushed sales of the Vita.

If this game flops, watch Activision blame the Vita for being an "unviable" platform to develop for. When it fact, it was their own lack of concern that doomed the title.

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#39 -ArchAngeL-777-
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It looks to me like the single player was the big casualty as well as possibly the graphics. The graphics arent bad, but not as good as what you expect from COD. The MP gameplay however is done very well. They didnt skimp on it at all that I can tell so far. If they did have just 5 months, it looks to me like they concentrated on MP which would definitely be the right choice.

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#40 -ArchAngeL-777-
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I've also noticed little details like the fact they dont use the touch screen for many of the menus. For instance, Unit 13 uses the touch screen to start the game and navigate missions, etc. Black Ops, you have to hit the X button and use the D-pad to navigate options before hitting X. These are the kind of things you would expect to be casualties of a short schedule.

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#41 Wanderer5
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Holy crap.:lol: Sadly it will probably still sell well compare to other Vita games.

And this game is $50? Isn't the usual Vita game price $40?

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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

I got a feeling this is going to be the Vita's E.T game. You know, everyone likes the series, see's it's on a handheld, buys the handheld with the game, realizes it's absolutely terrible, regrets buying it and spreads the world on how bad it all is.

super600

And then all the vita's will be moved to a landfill.

Kind of sucks. I really wanted the Vita to do good. It has so much potential.

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#43 -ArchAngeL-777-
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Holy crap.:lol: Sadly it will probably still sell well compare to other Vita games.

And this game is $50? Isn't the usual Vita game price $40?

Wanderer5

Depends on the game. Most of them yes $40 for the card, $35 for digital. Games like Ridge Racer and Mod Nation Racers are about $10 cheaper than that.

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#44 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

Holy crap.:lol: Sadly it will probably still sell well compare to other Vita games.

And this game is $50? Isn't the usual Vita game price $40?

-ArchAngeL-777-

Depends on the game. Most of them yes $40 for the card, $35 for digital. Games like Ridge Racer and Mod Nation Racers are about $10 cheaper than that.

So it possibly the most expensive Vita game out there so far?:lol: This game was rushed and lacks content and yet Activision had the balls to release it with such a price. They really must have been confident that this will sell by the name.

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#45 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

they built the game in 5 months, maybe nihilistic are actually a good developer if given more time and a decent budget.

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They had more time for Resistance Burning Skies and it's much worse then Declassified.

They were pretty much forced to use the Vita functions though in an IP that did not warrant it so no surprises that the game turned out to suck. I really wish Sony would leave the touch and gyro nonsense to whatever developer wants to use it instead of trying to make a point of showing off these features in an environment that just makes people hate them; "Oh god now i have to touch the enemies i want to kill.. oh damn i didnt do it quick enough and I'm now dead!".
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#46 p4s2p0
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It's funny that people are acting like there are better shooters on portable.
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#47 Blake135
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I don't really blame the developer I blame Activision and Sony, supposedly they screwed them over and gave them Resistance and Declassified at the same time. That amount of work clearly screwed the quality of the games.

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#48 Zensword
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That's why the AI in Declassified is so retarded
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#49 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Gue1"]

they built the game in 5 months, maybe nihilistic are actually a good developer if given more time and a decent budget.

JohnF111
They had more time for Resistance Burning Skies and it's much worse then Declassified.

They were pretty much forced to use the Vita functions though in an IP that did not warrant it so no surprises that the game turned out to suck. I really wish Sony would leave the touch and gyro nonsense to whatever developer wants to use it instead of trying to make a point of showing off these features in an environment that just makes people hate them; "Oh god now i have to touch the enemies i want to kill.. oh damn i didnt do it quick enough and I'm now dead!".

The original DS went through the same thing with it's dual screen and touch features for the first 1 year. It'll pass soon enough. Sony just wants to make it a point that they have it.
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#50 PSP107
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Call of Duty: Black Ops: Declassified 2 coming March 2013.

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They will pass it off as the complete Edition of the 1st one.