Black Ops plays @ 1,024 x 600 on consoles compared to 2560x1600 on PC

I get what your saying, but building and maintaining my gaming rig is part of the hobby and what makes PC gaming so much fun :D

Jermone123

OMFG a better resolution on the PC, never expected that. It's not like almost every multiplat game has higher res on PC :|

TC your wrong. Only the 360 version is 1040 X 604 the PS3 version is 960 X 544, the PS3 version has screen tearing and drops frames as low as 20fps especially in 3D mode while the 360 version has no such problems even in 3D mode. The Wii version is even worse no Split screen mode and even lower res. Its obvious the improvements on Black ops over MW2 could not be handled properly by the PS3. The enhanced animations, lighting, alpha blending, draw distance and textures were just too much. I give credit to Treyarch for not holding back the 360 version in order to accomadate the PS3 version the way Infinity Ward did. Its 2010 and devs have plenty of practice using the PS3 and its spu's. Obviously the PC version will be the best with its superior hardware.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff

Ya but it's on PC, ewwwwww.....

PC has the powa. We've known this for quite some time now. :)Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]PC has the powa. We've known this for quite some time now. :)bbkkristian

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]PC has the powa. We've known this for quite some time now. :)abuabed

but that laptop can only do 720p, so might as well just game on consoles.

OMFG a better resolution on the PC, never expected that. It's not like almost every multiplat game has higher res on PC :|

ArchoNils2

Like I said, I thought all 360 and PS3 games were atleast 720. Wasn't that what they advertised those systems to be? HD? Why even get an HD tv?

How is it that the PS3 can run a game like Killzone 3 perfectly but not with a dated FPS like Black Ops?

It's not the PS3 and it's hardware, it's the Treyarch devs.

[QUOTE="EG101"]

TC your wrong. Only the 360 version is 1040 X 604 the PS3 version is 960 X 544, the PS3 version has screen tearing and drops frames as low as 20fps especially in 3D mode while the 360 version has no such problems even in 3D mode. The Wii version is even worse no Split screen mode and even lower res. Its obvious the improvements on Black ops over MW2 could not be handled properly by the PS3. The enhanced animations, lighting, alpha blending, draw distance and textures were just too much. I give credit to Treyarch for not holding back the 360 version in order to accomodate the PS3 version the way Infinity Ward did. Its 2010 and devs have plenty of practice using the PS3 and its spu's. Obviously the PC version will be the best with its superior hardware.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff

Classic24

way to troll, xbot........it's pretty obvious treyarch did a hackjob on the ps3, it's clearly they cant program as well as infinity ward

whatevers, GT5 will be above and beyond what the 360 will do the rest of this generation so you can take your "win"

Your the troll. I provided facts with a link to back up my argument. COD BO is technically >> than MW2 that is why it ran slightly worse on the PS3 than MW2 did. Its obvious Treyarch did a great job on BO but of course your going to come in here and criticise their hard work with out knowing a thing about the engine. Anyway resolutions are not everything and the game is still playable on the PS3.

Yes GT5 will be great and I might be buying but it won't be anything 360 hasn't already done.

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

OMFG a better resolution on the PC, never expected that. It's not like almost every multiplat game has higher res on PC :|

Jermone123

Like I said, I thought all 360 and PS3 games were atleast 720. Wasn't that what they advertised those systems to be? HD? Why even get an HD tv?

Try to connect ps3 or x360 to sdtv and you will see why

[QUOTE="Jermone123"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

i thought we all new the PC version would be better technically?

6matt6

Yea, but I did not realize that consoles were THAT behind. I mean damn dude that is bad. That is complete ownage. I am sorry. Its just the truth

...that costed more than the console itself aswell. lol.

How is it that the PS3 can run a game like Killzone 3 perfectly but not with a dated FPS like Black Ops?

It's not the PS3 and it's hardware, it's the Treyarch devs.

p2250

Guerilla games knows where to make sacrifices in their engine to make KZ2 & 3 look good. For example the shadows and effects that are in KZ are super low res, some of the lighting is prebaked while some is not, there is no 4 player splitscreen. COD BO still has to play in split screen for example.

It started as a PC franchise and to me these games were always meant for PC.

mitu123

Its not a pointless thread. I think it points out the huge gap between the PC and consoles that is getting ridiculous. Next generation consoles are not going to be out for years yet, which is going to widen the gap even further. To be quite honest I am getting sick and tired of consoles dragging down the games I play on my PC. How bout you keep your exclusives and we will keep ours mmmk thanks.

Jermone123

i thought we all new the PC version would be better technically?

AmayaPapaya

How is it that the PS3 can run a game like Killzone 3 perfectly but not with a dated FPS like Black Ops?

It's not the PS3 and it's hardware, it's the Treyarch devs.

p2250

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

The hardware inside current generation consoles is way behind what computers are reaching right now. That's undeniable. However, some people just prefer the console experience (cheap, simple in many ways, and fairly hassle free with limited customization and great optimization), or would rather not deal with the sometimes-complex process of putting together and maintaining their own stable and reliable gaming rig. And pre-built rigs? Not even going to go into that.

Jermone123

I get what your saying, but building and maintaining my gaming rig is part of the hobby and what makes PC gaming so much fun :D

Same here, I am enjoy very much buying new hardware (and built my rig). That is something that consoles games will never understand.

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

i thought we all new the PC version would be better technically?

Yea, but I did not realize that consoles were THAT behind. I mean damn dude that is bad. That is complete ownage. I am sorry. Its just the truth

Display Resolution isnt everything...Hell, its not really improtant, espicially with the best looking games on consoles having graphical aspects that rival/beat PC's bestAnastasia1997

Out of interest, what do you mean?

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]Display Resolution isnt everything...Hell, its not really improtant, espicially with the best looking games on consoles having graphical aspects that rival/beat PC's bestlundy86_4

Out of interest, what do you mean?

Well, for the first point, take a look at the PC vs console images of COD MW2below:

PC

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]Display Resolution isnt everything...Hell, its not really improtant, espicially with the best looking games on consoles having graphical aspects that rival/beat PC's bestlundy86_4

Out of interest, what do you mean?

i assume he means that resolution and AA isnt going to make crappy animations any less crappy, and ugly character models any less ugly... and it doesnt do anything for the art style.

A 1024x600 resolution picture of jessica biel in the shower will always look better than a 2560x1600 picture of your grandmother in the shower.

imo red dead redemption looks better than a maxed out the witcher.

Well, for the first point, take a look at the PC vs console images of COD MW2below:

PC

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

Anastasia1997

You said consoles had, and I quote:

graphical aspects that rival/beat PC's best

Anastasia1997

However you show e a multiplat, where it's well known around here, that many use the same assets as the console versions and just have added resolution and AA/AF in certain cases. Games like RE5 use exactly the same assets across the console/PC and only mods are able to rectify it with things like higher resolution textures.

All you have managed to show is that they are using the same assets, which is a sign of the PC not being fully taken advantage of, due to multiplat development, high cost and time constraints.

If we were rivalling the PC's best, we'd be pitching console games against Crysis/Warhead, Cryostasis, Shattered Horizon, Total War series, ARMA II etc.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]Display Resolution isnt everything...Hell, its not really improtant, espicially with the best looking games on consoles having graphical aspects that rival/beat PC's bestAnastasia1997

Out of interest, what do you mean?

Well, for the first point, take a look at the PC vs console images of COD MW2below:

PC

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

Lmao brb taking a crappy screenshot from the PC and a good one from the 360 and trying to make an accurate comparison.

The difference is huge.

the average user wont know the difference

Consoles = 1,024 x 600

PC = 2560x1600 on my monitor

Ouch....

GTX 580 can play Black Ops @ 1280x1024 with an average of 236 FPS. What fps would consoles get at the resolution? Not even 30?? :o

I think it might be time for an update for the consoles. No?

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

i thought we all new the PC version would be better technically?

Yea, but I did not realize that consoles were THAT behind. I mean damn dude that is bad. That is complete ownage. I am sorry. Its just the truth

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

Anastasia1997

No. That's a PC shot. Just because you found it in the 360 section doesn't mean it's from the 360. Here's an actual shot of MW2 on 360:

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

i thought we all new the PC version would be better technically?

Yea, but I did not realize that consoles were THAT behind. I mean damn dude that is bad. That is complete ownage. I am sorry. Its just the truth

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

psn8214

No. That's a PC shot. Just because you found it in the 360 section doesn't mean it's from the 360. Here's an actual shot of MW2 on 360:

why doesnt MW2 look that bad when I play it on my xbox?

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

The hardware inside current generation consoles is way behind what computers are reaching right now. That's undeniable. However, some people just prefer the console experience (cheap, simple in many ways, and fairly hassle free with limited customization and great optimization), or would rather not deal with the sometimes-complex process of putting together and maintaining their own stable and reliable gaming rig. And pre-built rigs? Not even going to go into that.

I get what your saying, but building and maintaining my gaming rig is part of the hobby and what makes PC gaming so much fun :D

[QUOTE="dRuGGeRnaUt"][QUOTE="Jermone123"]

Yea, but I did not realize that consoles were THAT behind. I mean damn dude that is bad. That is complete ownage. I am sorry. Its just the truth

Iantheone

Again, a graphics card released this year that costs $499(plus the cost of the PC to put it in) is dramatically faster than 5+ year old tech?? that i can buy for $200?? wow, I thought my xbox would be WAAAAAAAAY faster than a PC now.. thanks for helping realize this :D

WHAT? you are honestly saying a machine with 512mb ram can and a 5+ year old processor and video card can keep up with a 6gb ram 2010 PC?? wow, apparrently you didnt read the TC post, "250+ frames per second" in 1080p on his pc... yeah i think pcs are stronger. And yes the "5 year old tech" is valid. I cannot conceive how you see other wise.. PS: the xbox was launched 5 years ago, tech inside those launche consoles was older than that. PPS: you truly believe "clever" programming can make up for 5 years of technology advancement?? Wouldn't that mean that you could "optimize" your 5 year old PC to be just as fast as a 2010 top end pc? NO

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

No. That's a PC shot. Just because you found it in the 360 section doesn't mean it's from the 360. Here's an actual shot of MW2 on 360:

why doesnt MW2 look that bad when I play it on my xbox?

PC can do much higher res than consoles? What a shocking revelation!

:|

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

The hardware inside current generation consoles is way behind what computers are reaching right now. That's undeniable. However, some people just prefer the console experience (cheap, simple in many ways, and fairly hassle free with limited customization and great optimization), or would rather not deal with the sometimes-complex process of putting together and maintaining their own stable and reliable gaming rig. And pre-built rigs? Not even going to go into that.

Jermone123

I get what your saying, but building and maintaining my gaming rig is part of the hobby and what makes PC gaming so much fun :D

Actually you don't have to build a PC to get into PC gaming. You can buy a good quality pre-built one like a Dell and depending on the hardware it has, it can be good for PC gaming.

why doesnt MW2 look that bad when I play it on my xbox?

gamer-adam1

Because your TV is probably 720p native, which means the upscaled 540p doesn't look as bad? I don't know, tbh, it might just be the shot, it's just a direct feed one I grabbed from Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. We can both agree that the shot the other dude posted was not a 360 shot though. :P

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="dRuGGeRnaUt"]

Again, a graphics card released this year that costs $499(plus the cost of the PC to put it in) is dramatically faster than 5+ year old tech?? that i can buy for $200?? wow, I thought my xbox would be WAAAAAAAAY faster than a PC now.. thanks for helping realize this :DdRuGGeRnaUt

WHAT? you are honestly saying a machine with 512mb ram can and a 5+ year old processor and video card can keep up with a 6gb ram 2010 PC?? wow, apparrently you didnt read the TC post, "250+ frames per second" in 1080p on his pc... yeah i think pcs are stronger. And yes the "5 year old tech" is valid. I cannot conceive how you see other wise.. PS: the xbox was launched 5 years ago, tech inside those launche consoles was older than that. PPS: you truly believe "clever" programming can make up for 5 years of technology advancement?? Wouldn't that mean that you could "optimize" your 5 year old PC to be just as fast as a 2010 top end pc? NO

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Out of interest, what do you mean?

Well, for the first point, take a look at the PC vs console images of COD MW2below:

PC

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

Lmao brb taking a crappy screenshot from the PC and a good one from the 360 and trying to make an accurate comparison.

The difference is huge.

[QUOTE="Jermone123"]

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

The hardware inside current generation consoles is way behind what computers are reaching right now. That's undeniable. However, some people just prefer the console experience (cheap, simple in many ways, and fairly hassle free with limited customization and great optimization), or would rather not deal with the sometimes-complex process of putting together and maintaining their own stable and reliable gaming rig. And pre-built rigs? Not even going to go into that.

DJP3000

I get what your saying, but building and maintaining my gaming rig is part of the hobby and what makes PC gaming so much fun :D

Actually you don't have to build a PC to get into PC gaming. You can buy a good quality pre-built one like a Dell and depending on the hardware it has, it can be good for PC gaming.

Consoles are pretty terrible. This is common knowledge. PC has the power. Consoles have...... static hardware??? Yea... there we go. millerlight89

no its not lol

[QUOTE="Anastasia1997"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Out of interest, what do you mean?

devious742

Well, for the first point, take a look at the PC vs console images of COD MW2below:

PC

Consoles (360)

There is very little difference

• Mirrors edge has had an engine upgrade when being ported to PC
• Those stalker images arent impressive and even then the images are prob from mods
• The tomb raider images are underwhelming regardless of its platform as shown below

• SF4 has always had ugly textures (whether it be on character models or the environment), and the only thing that saves it graphically is its art s.t.y.l.e

The game is hideous IMHO regardless of what platform

• How is GTA impressive (other than inscale and apparently car models) when it has textures and modelsas bad as this? Even then, this image is prob from a Mod. GTA4 is literally the ugliest game I have ever played this gen without a doubt

• Even though ME2 looks nice, mainly because of its art s.t.y.l.e, the environmental texturing is poor, and the only aspect thats great about itis the character models' face. The rest of the character model has poor texturing and low poly count
• I dont see how DOD or Aion are somewhat impressive at all :?. It looks average graphically at best
• F:NV still looks bad graphically on any platform, mainly because of the terrible engine they use for the game, especially with the animation work...some of the worst Ive seen
• I must admit, MOH on PC looks impressive
• Im not talking about Crysis or Arma 2, just multiplats BTW

Consoles = 1,024 x 600

PC = 2560x1600 on my monitor

Ouch....

GTX 580 can play Black Ops @ 1280x1024 with an average of 236 FPS. What fps would consoles get at the resolution? Not even 30?? :o

I think it might be time for an update for the consoles. No?

Jermone123

And this is news since...when? :?

A GTX 580 is nearly double the cost of my Xbox 360. I'll enjoy playing the game on my Xbox 360, thanks.

By the way, I know how little it costs to build a PC that can outperform the Xbox 360 and PS3. I just don't care.

[QUOTE="Jermone123"]

Consoles = 1,024 x 600

PC = 2560x1600 on my monitor

Ouch....

GTX 580 can play Black Ops @ 1280x1024 with an average of 236 FPS. What fps would consoles get at the resolution? Not even 30?? :o

I think it might be time for an update for the consoles. No?

SPBoss

PC gamers are holding themselves back, if Shogun 2 sells 10 million copies... i can guarantee you devs will see the market for high end pc games and crank more out. So do your part and buy 100 copies and stop blaming the consoles :P