Blizzard is now selling mounts from their online store...

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]You are still saying sword which would be as item that helps in gameplay. 5 non-combat pets and a mount with a new skin does not change gameplay at all. Nerkcon

1. The answer was true, but they're still making money. After all, they avoid merging low populated servers just to avoid bad news. The monthly fee pays all the servers, employees, and development all by itself. Selling extras is just to give them more pocket change. 2. Most of the content in the the game, including dungeons are bosses, are just reskins. But they're still content. And it is predicted the speed is going to be 370%, %10 faster than any other flying mount in the game.Nerkcon

370% is 10% slower, not faster, than regular mounts.

LOL. You guys made fun of us for $2.50 horse armor, but now it's $25. I don't ever want to hear again about how consolites are ruining gaming by buying DLC.

LOL. You guys made fun of us for $2.50 horse armor, but now it's $25. I don't ever want to hear again about how consolites are ruining gaming by buying DLC.

lowe0

Inverted logic? It's because this business model has success on consoles that this happens.

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

how is that milking? if people want to buy mounts then blizzard would be MORONS not to sell them. by the way this does not mean you now have to buy you mount in the game. that would be milking.

Nerkcon

... No it isn't.. Every major MMO out there has large expansions.. Everquest one had near 20 for crying out loud.. And furthermore who cares? These are not must haves that with out them it makes your gameplay experience poorer..

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

LOL. You guys made fun of us for $2.50 horse armor, but now it's $25. I don't ever want to hear again about how consolites are ruining gaming by buying DLC.

Mograine

Inverted logic? It's because this business model has success on consoles that this happens.

For now the micro-transactions still aren't directly affecting gameplay. Though Blizzard sure has taken a step down from only character services all the way to race changes, PVP server changes and now ingame mounts. I don't think it would be long before Blizzard starts selling badges for real-world currency or even create some of those extremely infamous "increase experience gain" or "increase drop rate" items. Glad I got out when I had the chance.GhoX

They already have those type of items (the increase experience gain one) which you can get from badges..

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Ummmm, no it started before that. Remember how they said they will never do PVE > PVP server transfers? Remember when you could not transfer high level characters to a new server until 6 months later? Or how about taking items that could be made or found in game for fun as bonuses for buying their card battle game? OR maybe with recruit a free making players coming into the game new and alone without people to group with? Or how about this; allowing people to multibox? And this is a good one; instead of merging low populated servers to avoid any bad news possible they they made it super hard to have an actual server community by allowing cross server grouping!Espada12

Your comparison is bad because the mount does not affect your gameplay experience and there is an alternative way to get a similar one without paying. Also micro transactions is nothing new in MMOs so I don't see how this comes as a shock to you. All of this stuff is aesthetic...

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] Right, but this is pretty much the ultimatum. Selling an epic flying mount on a blizzard store for 25$ (that has the same model as the Arthas mount drop). It's just stooping to a whole new level. I wasn't even sure if it was possible to stoop this low after all that.Lethalhazard

Your comparison is bad because the mount does not affect your gameplay experience and there is an alternative way to get a similar one without paying. Also micro transactions is nothing new in MMOs so I don't see how this comes as a shock to you. All of this stuff is aesthetic...

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

LOL. You guys made fun of us for $2.50 horse armor, but now it's $25. I don't ever want to hear again about how consolites are ruining gaming by buying DLC.

Nerkcon

Inverted logic? It's because this business model has success on consoles that this happens.

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Your comparison is bad because the mount does not affect your gameplay experience and there is an alternative way to get a similar one without paying. Also micro transactions is nothing new in MMOs so I don't see how this comes as a shock to you. All of this stuff is aesthetic...

Nerkcon

For anyone wondering what the original looks like....it's just a reskinned Invincible model and a 25$ price tag slapped on it.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="Mograine"]

Inverted logic? It's because this business model has success on consoles that this happens.

Greyfeld

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"][QUOTE="Nerkcon"] But hermits go on all the time about how much smarter they are. For proof they remind us that there is no longer a fee for features on Window's Live. Yet they are clearly paying for this or else it wouldn't had happen. In fact, there were a few guys in this thread who defended it.lowe0

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"][QUOTE="Nerkcon"] But hermits go on all the time about how much smarter they are. For proof they remind us that there is no longer a fee for features on Window's Live. Yet they are clearly paying for this or else it wouldn't had happen. In fact, there were a few guys in this thread who defended it.lowe0

That's funny... because every time someone wants to point out how huge PC gaming is, out comes the billion-dollar revenue figure from WoW. So, do they count, or don't they?

lowe0

Playing games on PC now equals being a hermit?

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"] In all fairness, those who typically hold the "hermit" title probably don't play WoW... WoW is a casuals' paradise, runs easily on massively outdated hardware, and is similar to the Wii in its "rope in the non-gamers" approach.Nerkcon

Apparently it's selling VERY well. All my friends that still play say they've already seen a ton in-game. One of my buddies took a screenshot of about 20 players on the mount just sitting outside of Dalaran. Blizzard wins this one in terms of cash, for sure...Lethalhazard

Quite frankly I dont care about the store and I dont see why it causes so much controversy. The items in the store are completely optional and useless. The pets cant be used to get ahivements and the mount is basically a nice skin for an epic flying mount. Its not faster then the stuff already in the game it just looks different. Even if Blizzard would put XP potions in the store I still would not care becouse it does not affect me or the way I play. I will have a problem with the store when they start selling swords and armor that is better than the one you can get by raiding for example, and the only way to get it is to pay for it. I dont know maybe Im just too laid back to care, but I dont even care about the expensive services that Blizz provides. I think that server change should be expensive becouse if everyone would switch servers any time they pleased it would be chaos and a strain on the servers. WAR has this service free becouse the population is small and getting smaller.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="lowe0"]That's funny... because every time someone wants to point out how huge PC gaming is, out comes the billion-dollar revenue figure from WoW. So, do they count, or don't they?

GhoX

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Apparently it's selling VERY well. All my friends that still play say they've already seen a ton in-game. One of my buddies took a screenshot of about 20 players on the mount just sitting outside of Dalaran. Blizzard wins this one in terms of cash, for sure...Birdy09

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Apparently it's selling VERY well. All my friends that still play say they've already seen a ton in-game. One of my buddies took a screenshot of about 20 players on the mount just sitting outside of Dalaran. Blizzard wins this one in terms of cash, for sure...Birdy09

You do know that as time goes on more p2p mmos will have an item store right? It is quite possible that FF14 will have one. The truth is that there is a market for this stuff. Not everyone has as much time as me to put in a couple of hundred hours into the game. People want to have the option to buy vanity items and why should a company refuse? Becouse a small vocal minority on a forum things its an evil trend?

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Apparently it's selling VERY well. All my friends that still play say they've already seen a ton in-game. One of my buddies took a screenshot of about 20 players on the mount just sitting outside of Dalaran. Blizzard wins this one in terms of cash, for sure...rzepak

You do know that as time goes on more p2p mmos will have an item store right? It is quite possible that FF14 will have one. The truth is that there is a market for this stuff. Not everyone has as much time as me to put in a couple of hundred hours into the game. People want to have the option to buy vanity items and why should a company refuse? Becouse a small vocal minority on a forum things its an evil trend?

A fool and his money are soon parted.

The only way they could get me to pay extra is for the ability to FULLY customize a land AND air mount. Customize the armor, eyes, face, hair lenght/color/shape. And i MIGHT pay $1 for that ability.

$25 is just insane for a digital picture on a monitor.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Sigh.... it will only get worse from here, those out there saying "Why do you care? you dont play anymore" ... simple.... there are already tons of craptastic WoW clones.... that follow WoWs challengless thoughtless combat, repetitive fed-ex spamming quests and cartooney style, when crap like this succeeds... it only gets worse. FFXIV and ToR are the last hope.... of the bigger MMOs that is.Birdy09

You do know that as time goes on more p2p mmos will have an item store right? It is quite possible that FF14 will have one. The truth is that there is a market for this stuff. Not everyone has as much time as me to put in a couple of hundred hours into the game. People want to have the option to buy vanity items and why should a company refuse? Becouse a small vocal minority on a forum things its an evil trend?

Lets see where the money goes. Huge staff that makes WoW and then the maintance. Cataclysm is coming which means a major redisign of a large portion of the world, improving the visuals somewhat while still mainting the Blizz way of making games that will run on a toaster.Teams for Diablo, Starcraft, succesor to WoW, second mmo which is a new IP (this is the thing that requires most money). As to the length of dev time: Diablo was released in 1996, Diablo 2 in 2000. Warcraft 2 - 1996, Warcraft 3 - 2002. Blizzard have always worked slow and this has not changed. WoW also took a long time to make.

LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA&fmt=18 Sums it up pretty nicely.

It's on the same level as the 15$ DLC that Modern Warfare 2 presented. Sure, it's optionable -- it's still milking. Even though, that at least provided content whereas this 25$ mount provides a reskinned mount that's already in the game available only to hardcore raiders. Not that I play WoW, it's just annoying to see Blizzard do this. I guess they're all for the money now. Lethalhazard

I play WoW and pay my $15/month and I'm no kind of upset about this. If people want to pay $25 for it, then more power to them, but it's not like they get an advantage over me somehow or are able to get in dungeons/raids that I can't get into.

And no, it's not the same as a map pack. You'll play the same exact content if you don't buy the mount. It's actually more like the skins you can buy for BFBC2, won't make a difference, just there. I don't see anyone getting upset over that though.

What's funny is the people who are outraged about this don't even play the game. lol

LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA&fmt=18 Sums it up pretty nicely.

Birdy09

LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA&fmt=18 Sums it up pretty nicely.

Birdy09

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]It's on the same level as the 15$ DLC that Modern Warfare 2 presented. Sure, it's optionable -- it's still milking. Even though, that at least provided content whereas this 25$ mount provides a reskinned mount that's already in the game available only to hardcore raiders. Not that I play WoW, it's just annoying to see Blizzard do this. I guess they're all for the money now. Mystic-G

I play WoW and pay my $15/month and I'm no kind of upset about this. If people want to pay $25 for it, then more power to them, but it's not like they get an advantage over me somehow or are able to get in dungeons/raids that I can't get into.

And no, it's not the same as a map pack. You'll play the same exact content if you don't buy the mount. It's actually more like the skins you can buy for BFBC2, won't make a difference, just there. I don't see anyone getting upset over that though.

What's funny is the people who are outraged about this don't even play the game. lol

$25 for a new skin for a mount you can get for free?:|

That's a total ripoff, $5 would be acceptable, but $25 is pushing it way too far.

LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA&fmt=18 Sums it up pretty nicely.

Birdy09

LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA&fmt=18 Sums it up pretty nicely.

Birdy09

That was brilliant :lol:

$25 for a new skin for a mount you can get for free?:|

That's a total ripoff, $5 would be acceptable, but $25 is pushing it way too far.

SuperBobz

To get the original mount u need to kill the Lich King in ICC 25 man heroic mode with only one guild in all of WoW has done so far.So I wouldn't call the mount free as it will take alot of time to get it.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Sigh.... it will only get worse from here, those out there saying "Why do you care? you dont play anymore" ... simple.... there are already tons of craptastic WoW clones.... that follow WoWs challengless thoughtless combat, repetitive fed-ex spamming quests and cartooney style, when crap like this succeeds... it only gets worse. FFXIV and ToR are the last hope.... of the bigger MMOs that is.Birdy09

You do know that as time goes on more p2p mmos will have an item store right? It is quite possible that FF14 will have one. The truth is that there is a market for this stuff. Not everyone has as much time as me to put in a couple of hundred hours into the game. People want to have the option to buy vanity items and why should a company refuse? Becouse a small vocal minority on a forum things its an evil trend?

The problem I have with this is it cheapens the game even further. It used to be once upon a time that the best players had the best stuff. Now it's becoming the richest players have the best stuff. I get enough of that IRL. The fun of a good mmo is putting in the time and effort to get those unique items, thus making your character unique. If anyone can get them buy shelling out more cash then what's the point? Just another reason I haven't missed this game since quitting.

am I the only one that finds this thread really funny?

It seems to be full of ex players that are angry at blizzard for "stealing" there time and money or for changing the game(for the better imo) and people who have never played a mmo or WoW and thinks that the game is evil just because there is people that get addicted to it when it's there fault for not having any self control.

/rant

am I the only one that finds this thread really funny?

It seems to be full of ex players that are angry at blizzard for "stealing" there time and money or for changing the game(for the better imo) and people who have never played a mmo or WoW and thinks that the game is evil just because there is people that get addicted to it when it's there fault for not having any self control.

/rant

MJPK