Blu-Ray the new standard for longer games?

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

Uh what?

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

rockguy92

Uh what?

http://boards.ign.com/uncharted_drakes_fortune/b11422/157312031/r157315799/

It's quite hillarious that you don't understand the difference between TECHNOLOGY and CREATIVITY. Blu Ray has nothing to do with length--it's all about high-resolution textures, minimal data compression, and perfectly uncompressed audio; basically Blu Ray=Technology. You can be creative (aka have long games) on any platform.

Chrono Trigger is 100 hours+ and it's on the SNES.

There goes your argument.

[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

Uh what?

http://boards.ign.com/uncharted_drakes_fortune/b11422/157312031/r157315799/

One speed run from a guy on easy=length for everyone else?

I'm just going to go ahead and say this post HAS to be flamebait, the lengths you have put on each of those games is so off that it can't be anything else.Espada12

Do a little digging in the forums. MGS4 is known to be extremely short w/o the cutscenes.. its been stated in SW many times to be 4-5 hours w/o the cutscenes. The LBP video review even said it was hard to stretch the story mode out to 6 hours. Speed runs are generally half or 1/4 the average time. Heavenly Sword was the first PS3 game to be laughed at because of how short it is. Resistance can be beaten in 5 hours and Uncharted speed runs have been done in less than 3 hours.

You call my post flamebait, but your post is pure damage control

You call my post flamebait, but your post is pure damage control

WillieBeamish

No damage control is necessary because it's very obvious that you are wrong.

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

Mass Effect is not 20 hours long.

You say take out the snoozefest in MGS and list speedrun times for the others. I beat Mass Effect in 8 hours, that was also doing a few sidequest and doing the romance subplot. Take out the dialogue/sidequest and you have a 2 hour game.

Almost any game can be beaten in 5 hours if you do a speedrun, how about you tell us something we don't know?

well to be fair mgs is about 8-10 hours

uncharted 8-10

resistance 10-12

but yeah blu ray hasnt done anything for games as far as length

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

RobNBankz

Mass Effect is not 20 hours long.

You say take out the snoozefest in MGS and list speedrun times for the others. I beat Mass Effect in 8 hours, that was also doing a few sidequest and doing the romance subplot. Take out the dialogue/sidequest and you have a 2 hour game.

Almost any game can be beaten in 5 hours if you do a speedrun, how about you tell us something we don't know?

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

Lol. Even low-balling LBP gets you more gameplay than 3 hours.

And lets not look to closely at the 360 games for length either...

well to be fair mgs is about 8-10 hours

uncharted 8-10

resistance 10-12

but yeah blu ray hasnt done anything for games as far as length

mephisto_11

Finally someone who actually has somewhat accurate numbers.

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

WillieBeamish

THe cutscenes are part of MGS4 too. And yeah, you are controlling the dialog. It all amounts to more or less the same thing.

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

WillieBeamish

ME only took me around 9-10 hours :S, I just didn't do the side missions after I released how bad the first few were.

[QUOTE="RobNBankz"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

Mass Effect is not 20 hours long.

You say take out the snoozefest in MGS and list speedrun times for the others. I beat Mass Effect in 8 hours, that was also doing a few sidequest and doing the romance subplot. Take out the dialogue/sidequest and you have a 2 hour game.

Almost any game can be beaten in 5 hours if you do a speedrun, how about you tell us something we don't know?

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

Aw, do I sense a fanboy getting hurt by his own logic?

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

SpruceCaboose

THe cutscenes are part of MGS4 too. And yeah, you are controlling the dialog. It all amounts to more or less the same thing.

You are comparing Mass Effect's dialog tree to the joke of a text message system in MGS4 and calling it 'more or less the same thing'?? Not that you had credibility before, but now you are just being silly.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

WillieBeamish

THe cutscenes are part of MGS4 too. And yeah, you are controlling the dialog. It all amounts to more or less the same thing.

You are comparing Mass Effect's dialog tree to the joke of a text message system in MGS4 and calling it 'more or less the same thing'?? Not that you had credibility before, but now you are just being silly.

:|

Anyone else see that?

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="RobNBankz"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

RobNBankz

Mass Effect is not 20 hours long.

You say take out the snoozefest in MGS and list speedrun times for the others. I beat Mass Effect in 8 hours, that was also doing a few sidequest and doing the romance subplot. Take out the dialogue/sidequest and you have a 2 hour game.

Almost any game can be beaten in 5 hours if you do a speedrun, how about you tell us something we don't know?

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

Aw, do I sense a fanboy getting hurt by his own logic?

Tp be fair. you HAVE to do the dialouge, its a gameplay element.

Movie sequences are not.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

WillieBeamish

THe cutscenes are part of MGS4 too. And yeah, you are controlling the dialog. It all amounts to more or less the same thing.

You are comparing Mass Effect's dialog tree to the joke of a text message system in MGS4 and calling it 'more or less the same thing'?? Not that you had credibility before, but now you are just being silly.

Yeah I have no credibility yet you do... You are the one saying take the story out of one story heavy game to shorten it, but leave the story in the other game to lengthen it.

And no, I was comparing story to story. I found both games sub-par and somewhat dull, so I couldn't care less to compare feature sets.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

SpruceCaboose

THe cutscenes are part of MGS4 too. And yeah, you are controlling the dialog. It all amounts to more or less the same thing.

not really. mass effect's gameplay and overall concept relies heavily on the choices you make even though you arrive at only slightly different endings. the path isn't solidly linear. the dialogue is pretty well integrated with the gameplay and last no more than a few minutes at a time.

the dialogue in mgs4 can be flat out drivel,to be blunt, and goes on for as long as forty five minutes without you having to so much a lay a finger on your controller.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

rockguy92

THe cutscenes are part of MGS4 too. And yeah, you are controlling the dialog. It all amounts to more or less the same thing.

You are comparing Mass Effect's dialog tree to the joke of a text message system in MGS4 and calling it 'more or less the same thing'?? Not that you had credibility before, but now you are just being silly.

:|

Anyone else see that?

[QUOTE="RobNBankz"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

Mass Effect is not 20 hours long.

You say take out the snoozefest in MGS and list speedrun times for the others. I beat Mass Effect in 8 hours, that was also doing a few sidequest and doing the romance subplot. Take out the dialogue/sidequest and you have a 2 hour game.

Almost any game can be beaten in 5 hours if you do a speedrun, how about you tell us something we don't know?

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

not really. mass effect's gameplay and overall concept relies heavily on the choices you make even though you arrive at only slightly different endings. the path isn't solidly linear. the dialogue is pretty well integrated with the gameplay and last no more than a few minutes at a time.

the dialogue in mgs4 can be flat out drivel,to be blunt, and goes on for as long as forty five minutes without you having to so much a lay a finger on your controller.

mephisto_11

Both were dull and flat to me, which is why I said its more or less the same thing. To me, neither game had a very engrossing story.

Read the thread title, thought it was a fanboy thread. Read who the TC was, confirmed it was a fanboy thread. I was mistaken in thinking it was a PS3 fanboy at first though instead of a 360 one :(

By the way, did you accidentally divide by 2 (or in some cases, 3) when doing those gameplay lengths? I've played all of those (except LBP which NONE of us have played) and can say that you are obviously deflating the gameplay to condemn those heathens at Sony.

[QUOTE="RobNBankz"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="RobNBankz"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

ukillwegrill

Mass Effect is not 20 hours long.

You say take out the snoozefest in MGS and list speedrun times for the others. I beat Mass Effect in 8 hours, that was also doing a few sidequest and doing the romance subplot. Take out the dialogue/sidequest and you have a 2 hour game.

Almost any game can be beaten in 5 hours if you do a speedrun, how about you tell us something we don't know?

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

Aw, do I sense a fanboy getting hurt by his own logic?

Tp be fair. you HAVE to do the dialouge, its a gameplay element.

Movie sequences are not.

Oh, sorry. I wasn't aware we were discussing Mass Effect: How To Properly Have A Conversation.

You can press X (I think it's X, or it could be B) and skip dialogue. Therefore, you do not HAVE to do it.

If I still had my old 360 I would take a picture and show you that I beat it in 8 hours, and then I would do a speedrun with my level 62 Shepard to show you that it could easily be beaten in 5 hours.

It's quite hillarious that you don't understand the difference between TECHNOLOGY and CREATIVITY. Blu Ray has nothing to do with length--it's all about high-resolution textures, minimal data compression, and perfectly uncompressed audio; basically Blu Ray=Technology. You can be creative (aka have long games) on any platform.

Chrono Trigger is 100 hours+ and it's on the SNES.

There goes your argument.

Bentham

I think tc refused to read this one..

[QUOTE="Bentham"]

It's quite hillarious that you don't understand the difference between TECHNOLOGY and CREATIVITY. Blu Ray has nothing to do with length--it's all about high-resolution textures, minimal data compression, and perfectly uncompressed audio; basically Blu Ray=Technology. You can be creative (aka have long games) on any platform.

Chrono Trigger is 100 hours+ and it's on the SNES.

There goes your argument.

johnlennon28

I think tc refused to read this one..

TC has always had selective reading. And yet I am the one with no credibility...:roll:

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

MGS4 - 14 hours

Heavenly Sword - 6 hours

Resistance - 10-15 hours

Drake - 15+

[QUOTE="johnlennon28"][QUOTE="Bentham"]

It's quite hillarious that you don't understand the difference between TECHNOLOGY and CREATIVITY. Blu Ray has nothing to do with length--it's all about high-resolution textures, minimal data compression, and perfectly uncompressed audio; basically Blu Ray=Technology. You can be creative (aka have long games) on any platform.

Chrono Trigger is 100 hours+ and it's on the SNES.

There goes your argument.

SpruceCaboose

I think tc refused to read this one..

TC has always had selective reading. And yet I am the one with no credibility...:roll:

Coherency is the new fanboyism in terms of credibility, sorry Spruce, no more intelligent posts by you.

Coherency is the new fanboyism in terms of credibility, sorry Spruce, no more intelligent posts by you.

Nirron

The Wii is a childs plaything, the pc costs $2012 and can't run Crysis, the PS3 has one game, and the 360 RRoDs when you look at it.

Better?

[QUOTE="Nirron"]

Coherency is the new fanboyism in terms of credibility, sorry Spruce, no more intelligent posts by you.

SpruceCaboose

The Wii is a childs plaything, the pc costs $2012 and can't run Crysis, the PS3 has one game, and the 360 RRoDs when you look at it.

Better?

Conglaturation !! You have restored your credibility and prooved the fallacy of fanboys. Now go and rest our hero!

Though the only change that I can think of is that you and I know the PC can't do true HD and requires $2-3000 yearly upgrades.

You obvioulsy haven't played mgs4. it's 5 hours when you're doing a SPEED RUN to get the big boss rank. in fact 5 hours is the limit. meaning you ignore every single item, weapon, enemy, and every other goodie just to finish the game. who plays a game ignoring all the fun in the game.

I hate it when a lemming calls mgs4 a short game. yet they all jump in joy when a konami spokesperson gives hope for a x360 port. :roll: Fanboys.

It's quite hillarious that you don't understand the difference between TECHNOLOGY and CREATIVITY. Blu Ray has nothing to do with length--it's all about high-resolution textures, minimal data compression, and perfectly uncompressed audio; basically Blu Ray=Technology. You can be creative (aka have long games) on any platform.

Chrono Trigger is 100 hours+ and it's on the SNES.

There goes your argument.

Bentham

PC doesn't use Blu-Ray for games, and yet my PC has better graphics and sound than the PS3 will ever have... and ironically enough it cost less than a PS3 at launch. Blu-Ray was an outdated technology the day it was released - the future of gaming is digital.

And for everyone who wants to flip out and talk about what this disc supposedly "enables" - answer me this, how do you buy music? Do you go to the store and buy audio DVDs? Y'know - all that storage space lets them have "minimal data compression" and "perfectly uncompressed audio"? No? Surely you have a massive super-audio CD collection? No?

MP3s? Tsk-tsk, what about "blu-ray = techology"? Discs aren't hyper advanced technology, they're an outdated method of storing information clung to because people falsely believe the "own" something just because it's on a disc. Sony fed you and quite a few people a line with that "Blu-Ray is the future" nonsense. Blu-Ray? The future? Doubtful. The last disc based format? Maybe. The digital transfer of media already dwarfs the physical sales of discs.

Interestingly enough, your "technology" (Blu-Ray) doesn't have enough storage space to store 4k digital movies.

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="RobNBankz"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="RobNBankz"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

RobNBankz

Mass Effect is not 20 hours long.

You say take out the snoozefest in MGS and list speedrun times for the others. I beat Mass Effect in 8 hours, that was also doing a few sidequest and doing the romance subplot. Take out the dialogue/sidequest and you have a 2 hour game.

Almost any game can be beaten in 5 hours if you do a speedrun, how about you tell us something we don't know?

The dialog is part of the gameplay.. That's what mass effect is.. you are controlling the dialog. Nice try. And you didn't beat ME in 8 hours.

Aw, do I sense a fanboy getting hurt by his own logic?

Tp be fair. you HAVE to do the dialouge, its a gameplay element.

Movie sequences are not.

Oh, sorry. I wasn't aware we were discussing Mass Effect: How To Properly Have A Conversation.

You can press X (I think it's X, or it could be B) and skip dialogue. Therefore, you do not HAVE to do it.

If I still had my old 360 I would take a picture and show you that I beat it in 8 hours, and then I would do a speedrun with my level 62 Shepard to show you that it could easily be beaten in 5 hours.

It's neither, actually. Fisrt you use the analouge to choose one of the choices.

Also, the fmv do mean nothing to the gameplay, its juat a movie. Mass effect dialouge has huge effect on your adventure.

PLUS, even doing a speed run on both, its ALOT faster to skip a movie then the Mass effect text.

Thank for playing little boy.

TC, the anti-Sony thing you got going on is FRIGGIN'ridiculous.

You're so xbox crazy that it isn't even funny. This isn't politics, it's videogames. VIDEOGAMES. F'n play them why don't you.

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

Yeah and MGS also has the best graphics on a console game.....And graphics take up alot of space.... and Fable two is rpg ....MGS4 is a Stealth SHOOTER ---shooters are short normally...Rpg's are long and Fable has petty graphics

SO Blu ray equal Better graphics, Longer gameplay

[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

Uh what?

http://boards.ign.com/uncharted_drakes_fortune/b11422/157312031/r157315799/

lol, go on youtube, sumone beat SM64 in under 10 minutes...I guess that makes it the crappiest and shortest game out there :roll:

WHAT?! RESISTANCE AT 5 HOURS? Don't get it confused with gears of war

Sony pushes Blu-Ray as some kind of magic bullet for the PS3, because it allows for more gameplay to be packed into each game. They like to say things like "You can't make this game on the 360 because it doesn't have blu-ray"..

What I find ironic about Sony is that you can take every AA and AAA exclusive on the PS3, add up all their gameplay together and get something like 20 hours of TOTAL gameplay.. Which is about the same amount of gameplay in Mass Effect.

Don't believe me? Lets look at the facts:

MGS4 5 hours of gameplay (when ignoring the snoozefest movie cutscenes)
LBP 3 hours of gameplay for the story mode
Heavenly Sword 4 hours of gameplay
Resistance 5 hours of gameplay
Drake 3 hours of gameplay

Yet when reviewers say that Fable 2 has 12 hours if you only do the main quest, PS3 fanboys are the first to bash how short it is.

WillieBeamish

This has got to be some kind of joke. Isn't there a rule against posting blatant lies?

It's quite hillarious that you don't understand the difference between TECHNOLOGY and CREATIVITY. Blu Ray has nothing to do with length--it's all about high-resolution textures, minimal data compression, and perfectly uncompressed audio; basically Blu Ray=Technology. You can be creative (aka have long games) on any platform.

Chrono Trigger is 100 hours+ and it's on the SNES.

There goes your argument.

Bentham

....um cept thats not the arguement he was trying to make...He just said exactly what you said except the blather about blu rays superiority *which its not, blu ray is total crap* you missed the argument completely. Simply put he said that cows are wrong with their claims of blu ray=longer games.

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It's quite hillarious that you don't understand the difference between TECHNOLOGY and CREATIVITY. Blu Ray has nothing to do with length--it's all about high-resolution textures, minimal data compression, and perfectly uncompressed audio; basically Blu Ray=Technology. You can be creative (aka have long games) on any platform.

Chrono Trigger is 100 hours+ and it's on the SNES.

There goes your argument.

subrosian

PC doesn't use Blu-Ray for games, and yet my PC has better graphics and sound than the PS3 will ever have... and ironically enough it cost less than a PS3 at launch. Blu-Ray was an outdated technology the day it was released - the future of gaming is digital.

And for everyone who wants to flip out and talk about what this disc supposedly "enables" - answer me this, how do you buy music? Do you go to the store and buy audio DVDs? Y'know - all that storage space lets them have "minimal data compression" and "perfectly uncompressed audio"? No? Surely you have a massive super-audio CD collection? No?

MP3s? Tsk-tsk, what about "blu-ray = techology"? Discs aren't hyper advanced technology, they're an outdated method of storing information clung to because people falsely believe the "own" something just because it's on a disc. Sony fed you and quite a few people a line with that "Blu-Ray is the future" nonsense. Blu-Ray? The future? Doubtful. The last disc based format? Maybe. The digital transfer of media already dwarfs the physical sales of discs.

Interestingly enough, your "technology" (Blu-Ray) doesn't have enough storage space to store 4k digital movies.

I've never seen so much drivel out of sub before? did hell just freeze over? Let alone Id much rather own a physical medium then pure digitial distribution which has way to many problems as it is, including if a company goes out of buisness i purchased that digital product from i cant ever replace it if i lose it, where as i can usually do the same with physical media. Too many problems having to break the DRM on digtial stuff just so i can make good copys of it. and the myrid of other problems with DB, no sorry DB is the future but not any time soon.

You bring up alot of silly non sensical points Sub, I dont buy audio dvds? actually YES I do, I own many dual sided discs with dvd and cd on the sides, dvd side offers me music videos, interviews and the entire album in high quality audio, the cd side just offers the Cd quality audio, One could fit the entire music carrer of the beatles on a single dvd, and some other bands too for that matter, So the fact you dont do it doesn't mean much when i do do it, and just because its not widely done doesn't mean any thing.

P.S: you probably dont believe in books either, since those are an outdated physical method by your standads.

farcry 4gb 15-20 hours has average console graphics of today.

oblivion 50 hours 4gb

crysis 6.7gb and no shooter looks better

world in conflict 4.6gb and is long and give crysis a run for its money

the witcher ehanced edition 10gb and is 30 hours easy

stalker 6gb and easily 15-20 hours

yeah blu ray is really needed. the only game I have come across that is more tha 10gb is mass effect @ 15gb but that worked on x360