Breaking: Titanfall dev explains in more detail why it can't run on PS4

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#1 robotapple
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Basically the game is built from the ground up using Azure, The Cloud, for AI, physics, the Map, environments and the like..  which is owned by MS. So in other words, you will never see this game on Ps4...  and the game will offer more complex AI, physics, worlds, and matchmaking than anything we've ever seen before because it's all being handled by azure.

This is why the press was so blown away at E3. It will truly help gaming to the next level.



 http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-Azure-Titanfall-Dedicated-Servers-Respawn-Entertainment-Jon-Shiring,23234.html


By Kevin ParrishJuly 7, 2013 4:00 PM- Source: Respawn Entertainment

 

"The Xbox group came back to us with a way for us to run all of these Titanfall dedicated servers and that lets us push games with more server CPU and higher bandwidth, which lets us have a bigger world, more physics, lots of AI, and potentially a lot more than that!" he said.

Microsoft has its own cloud computing platform and infrastructure called Windows Azure, launched in February 2010 and created for building, deploying and managing applications and services through a global network of Microsoft-owned data centers. It provides both platform as a service (PaaS) and infrastructure as a service (IaaS) services, and Microsoft realized it could also power its gaming network as well.

"So they built this powerful system to let us create all sorts of tasks that they will run for us, and it can scale up and down automatically as players come and go," he said. "We can upload new programs for them to run and they handle the deployment for us. And theyll host our game servers for other platforms, too! Titanfall uses the Xbox Live Cloud to run dedicated servers for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox 360."

"But its not just for dedicated servers Microsoft thought about our problem in a bigger way. Developers arent going to just want dedicated servers theyll have all kinds of features that need a server to do some kind of work to make games better," he continued. "Look at Forza 5, which studies your driving style in order to create custom AI that behaves like you do. Thats totally different from what Titanfall uses it for, and it's really cool! So it's not accurate to say that the Xbox Live Cloud is simply a system for running dedicated servers it can do a lot more than that."

It's an interesting read, and certainly builds up anticipation for Titanfall, the potential of Xbox One, and what Xbox Live Cloud could do for PC gamers as well.

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#2 CJ_ofCamelot
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Alright, justifying cost.
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#3 Mr-Kutaragi
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Bigger world, more physic, lot of AI, yet only fraction of planetside 2 and runs source engine of 40fps 720p on xbone. Maybe needs bigger cloud.
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I'm sure it can improve some areas, but I am very skeptical about some of the claims being thrown around.

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Bigger world, more physic, lot of AI, yet only fraction of planetside 2 and runs source engine of 40fps 720p on xbone. Maybe needs bigger cloud.Mr-Kutaragi

There is no evidence that it runs at 720p resolution. Digital Foundry simply thought it looked kind of soft and guessed that it could possibly be running below 1080p. But that isn't for certain, and it doesn't mean the resolution would be 720p.

The framerate has the same kind of variablilty that you see in Call of Duty games on current consoles. Such is par for the course on consoles. 30fps in reality is usually more like 20 to 30fps. 60fps is usually more like 40 to 60fps.

In any case, quite a few PS4 exclusives weren't looking too hot or running too well at E3 either.

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Poor haz.

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What happens if you play Xbox One on a sunny day?

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Link doesn't work and nowhere in the two excerpts you posted was the PS4 mentioned nor it's supposed inability to run Titanfall; in short, you're a ret*rd.
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Not sure why people are posting compressed pics of the game when the dev is saying the Cloud is used for AI, matchmaking, physics and gameplay.

 

This game will never come to PS4 because it was built to run on Azura from the ground up...

 

which is owned by Microsoft.

 

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:roll: Sure thing buddy. PS4 can't run this.....

 

 

BUT it can run this...

 

 

:roll: Hmmmm....who do I believe here moneyhatted devs or my own eyes?

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Link doesn't work and nowhere in the two excerpts you posted was the PS4 mentioned nor it's supposed inability to run Titanfall; in short, you're a ret*rd.22Toothpicks

 

Gamespot does not allow commas so the link is broken, you can cut and paste it

 

They are basically saying the game is built from the ground up utilizing Azura for AI, physics, environments, ect... Azura is owned by MS.

 

You will never see a port on PS4.

 

 

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In other words Always Online DRM, No Thanks!
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You will never see a port on PS4. robotapple
Same way we never saw Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden 2 right?
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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Bigger world, more physic, lot of AI, yet only fraction of planetside 2 and runs source engine of 40fps 720p on xbone. Maybe needs bigger cloud.kalipekona

There is no evidence that it runs at 720p resolution. Digital Foundry simply thought it looked kind of soft and guessed that it could possibly be running below 1080p. But that isn't for certain, and it doesn't mean the resolution would be 720p.

The framerate has the same kind of variablilty that you see in Call of Duty games on current consoles. Such is par for the course on consoles. 30fps in reality is usually more like 20 to 30fps. 60fps is usually more like 40 to 60fps.

In any case, quite a few PS4 exclusives weren't looking too hot or running too well at E3 either.

With power of cloud, which makes xbone 40x power according to MS, should allow much better performance than current gen. Most game of 60fps does not lock at frame, but usually maintain above 50. ps4 game is seem much more impressive, despite lack of cloud power. I saw no game of scale and smoothness of infamous, and is one year away so much improvement to be made. killzone on outdate dev kit, impressive but 30fps due to launch deadline but make up with many impressive effect not present in Titanfall. Planetside 2 dev say to run at highest setting on ps4, without cloud power.
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Super old and doesnt mention ps4...

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[QUOTE="robotapple"]You will never see a port on PS4. I_can_haz
Same way we never saw Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden 2 right?

PS4 doesn't have the power.
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:roll: Sure thing buddy. PS4 can't run this.....

 

 

BUT it can run this...

 

 

:roll: Hmmmm....who do I believe here moneyhatted devs or my own eyes?

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bahaha Titanfall is child's play
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#19 robotapple
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Super old and doesnt mention ps4...

Chutebox

Actually no, it was posted today.

 

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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="robotapple"]You will never see a port on PS4. Michael0134567
Same way we never saw Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden 2 right?

PS4 doesn't have the power.

 :cool: Shoo...go away you troll.
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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"]Link doesn't work and nowhere in the two excerpts you posted was the PS4 mentioned nor it's supposed inability to run Titanfall; in short, you're a ret*rd.robotapple

 

Gamespot does not allow commas so the link is broken, you can cut and paste it

 

They are basically saying the game is built from the ground up utilizing Azura for AI, physics, environments, ect... Azura is owned by MS.

 

You will never see a port on PS4.



And you just eat up the PR hype for Azure?  I think it would be best to wait and see if having "teh cloudz" will offer any substantial benefit over other platforms.   

Oh and Titanfall stills looks meh... 

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Super old and doesnt mention ps4...

robotapple

Actually no, it was posted today.

 

Reposted from June 24.
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="robotapple"]You will never see a port on PS4. Michael0134567
Same way we never saw Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden 2 right?

PS4 doesn't have the power.

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You know you want me around, haz. 

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]Same way we never saw Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden 2 right? CJ_ofCamelot
PS4 doesn't have the power.

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:shock: What's going on here?
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Xbox 360 can apparently run the game but PS4 can't handle it... riiiiiiiiiight. Okay. :P

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You know you want me around, haz. 

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:P Not in this way.
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Xbox 360 can apparently run the game but PS4 can't handle it... riiiiiiiiiight. Okay. :P

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]Same way we never saw Mass Effect or Ninja Gaiden 2 right? CJ_ofCamelot
PS4 doesn't have the power.

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runs on pcs and 360, can run on ps4 (and will eventually have a superior version later on ps4) sorry lems, there's always halo :lol:
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

You know you want me around, haz. 

I_can_haz

:P Not in this way.

Apologize. Right now.

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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"] PS4 doesn't have the power.

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:shock: What's going on here?

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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

You know you want me around, haz. 

Michael0134567

:P Not in this way.

Apologize. Right now.

:cool: No, make me.
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lol if anyone thinks the cloud is going to do any real time cpu or physics tasks for games....dat latency
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:P Not in this way.I_can_haz

Apologize. Right now.

:cool: No, make me.

Alright, I will. :cool:

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One and Done, baby :cool:

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is it allowed to be banned for pressing the New thread button too many times and keep making threads about TitanFall?

I hope so, this is getting out of hand.

 

 

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One and Done, baby :cool:

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is it allowed to be banned for pressing the New thread button too many times and keep making threads about TitanFall?

I hope so, this is getting out of hand.

 

 

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I'm just posting news son :|

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I wish people would stop posting about the cloud and bashing the cloud. The only thing it does is listed here. The cloud isnt the same thing as internet or cloud storage servers, and it wont help make up for a weak GPU and allow for better graphics. The uses are listed here. It allows things in the world to be rendered or controlled by the cloud, things that would normally be processed by GPU such as AI routines (like NPC schedules in Skyrim, or procedural generated terrain/map that could load in the background). It CANNOT give a game better graphics, that would still be limited by the GPU. So yea, Xbox One might have the advantage of better multiplayer, better NPC ai scripting, or larger worlds, but that would still be limited by the need to be always online.
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[QUOTE="Quaker-w00ts"]

is it allowed to be banned for pressing the New thread button too many times and keep making threads about TitanFall?

I hope so, this is getting out of hand.

 

 

robotapple

I'm just posting news son :|

2 weeks old news
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mods really need to step up here, this is getting out of hand.

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#43 Michael0134567
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We need more threads on Lightning Returns.

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[QUOTE="robotapple"]

[QUOTE="Quaker-w00ts"]

is it allowed to be banned for pressing the New thread button too many times and keep making threads about TitanFall?

I hope so, this is getting out of hand.

 

 

Basinboy

I'm just posting news son :|

2 weeks old news

Posted today :|

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We need more threads on Lightning Returns.

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So yea, Xbox One might have the advantage of better multiplayer, better NPC ai scripting, or larger worlds, but that would still be limited by the need to be always online.navyguy21
No, xbox have no such advantage. Proof is, planetside 2 vs Titanfall. Which world is bigger with more player?
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#47 Shewgenja
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I'll throw the Lems a bone on this relatively arbitrary caveat.  After all, since Office365 isn't really taking off, there IS plenty of Azure to go around..  So, why not?

 

The thing is, since Sony is going to a paid subscription model with their online gaming, it is not going to take incredibly long for Sony to start putting together a cloud matrix of their own.  In that sense, there could actually be some truth to the rumor that Playstation gamers will have to wait for Titanfall 2.  Sony will have a better idea of what their installed userbase is going to be like and how robust they will need their cloud infrastructure to be.  MS, on the other hand, was already sitting on real estate to do it with.

 

If Shuhei Yoshida is to be believed (and so far, he has been a pretty straight shooter with all things PS4) then Sony may take the organic approach of using their subscription revenue to expand their PSN services.  It's all a matter of how aggressive they can be in the end.  PS4 seems to be taking off strongly in all territories and that translates into a healthy revenue stream for them.  "The power of the cloud" may be a pretty short-lived buzzword.

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My god cows are stupid.

It cant run on Ps4 due to their crappy cloud service.

b b b but gddr5

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]So yea, Xbox One might have the advantage of better multiplayer, better NPC ai scripting, or larger worlds, but that would still be limited by the need to be always online.Mr-Kutaragi
No, xbox have no such advantage. Proof is, planetside 2 vs Titanfall. Which world is bigger with more player?

To play Devil's Advocate, that is not a 1:1 comparison. On one hand, Titanfall seems to have a paltry 7 vs 7 multiplayer component. On the other hand, and relevant to server-side computation, there are computer driven NPCs in much the same fashion as enemies in an MMO. In Planetside, every opponent is player controlled. THAT all being said.. Destiny sure doesn't seem to be struggling on PS4 and is boasting a lot of this "cloud" type of stuff in its own right, truth be told.
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#50 Shewgenja
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My god cows are stupid.

It cant run on Ps4 due to their crappy cloud service.

b b b but gddr5

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b b b b but Destiny.