Bro Yoshida's mission statement on remasters

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/06/17/sony-remasters-serve-the-40-percent-of-ps4-owners-that-didn_2700_t-own-a-playstation-3.aspx?utm_content=bufferdf1a1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

"I'm not bothered by people who complain when we talk about remasters. There are always those people on the internet."

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let's filter out legitimate feedback from your user base

#4theplayers

"The Last of Us Remastered that we released last year was hugely popular," Yoshida says. "When we look at the number of people who did not own PS3, but do own PS4, those are people who have never tried these games that were very, very popular on PS3. Lots of people were asking for the Uncharted Collection. I'm confident that lots of people will have the chance to play Uncharted for the first time in a higher resolution, with better textures and animations. That will even attract people who played on PS3 in preparation for Uncharted 4. I'm not bothered by people who complain when we talk about remasters. There are always those people on the internet."

We asked for clarification on the number of PlayStation 4 owners who didn't own a PlayStation 3 on which these games appeared first. A Sony representative confirmed to us that PlayStation 4 new users (those that didn't upgrade from PlayStation 3) amount to approximately 40 percent of the 20.2 million install base (approximately 8.08 million).

From their point of view it seems they are serving their user base

You have been way too upset the last few days. Settle down

Have you seen the comments on gameinformer? A vast majority of them are negative.

Man don't be so Salty.

Cut back on the sodium intake.

@Salt_The_Fries: really? Your rebuttal is the comments section of an article on the internet? What's next, twitch chat?

Someone's jinmies are rustled, lol

I think you are more serious thank you think I am.

That's SW for ya.

I think Lems are just upset that the PS3 had a lot of games that deserve a remaster, unlike the 360 :^)

Remasters don't actually bother me, because I can skip them.

It's the lack of interesting exclusives that aren't Bloodborne for this machine from it's launch in 2013 to I'm guessing something actually good in 2016 that is ridiculous. Guilty Gear I could have gotten on my PS3, Resogun is cool, it's not buying a console cool, Infamous sucks, Killzone was average at best, and Little Big Planet 3 is likeable if you like level editors, but the actual playing it part sucks because that series has always had bad mechanics.

2 years= 1 exclusive worth a damn, and apologist excuse is "duh the WiiU and Xbox One suck"...because apparently all the consoles suck is a defense for this.

Next year when this system actually starts getting things like a The Last Guardian, Uncharted 4, like a Horizon, that Dreams game I can see being a bit more favorable to the system, as is? Yoshida's department is slacking.

that is just wrong. hd ports spam isn't just random complaints, its a legit annoyance, a thing that fills up the yearly library with old ass games on a new console you've just purchased. How is this fair? Yoshida is cool n all but he's fking wrong on this one. But he's probably damage controlling for Sony so yea............

Remasters are great, PS3 had over 50+ remaster, im sure PS4 will beat that number like a champ. Greatness truly awaits us, i hear Sony getting a new Remaster in time for the Holidays also. Its pretty hard to deny that Sony love fans are getting for 2015.

Sony is so out of touch with their user base and reality, also who was asking for Uncharted to be remastered? I don't remember anyone asking for that...

It's funny. Everyone got on to Microsoft about the Xbone being anti-consumer and praised Sony for listening to fans.

Now Yoshida fully admits to their being a backlash against remastering, yet gives a big middle finger to those people, while Microsoft add backwards compatibility.

Let's be real that BC is only going to work with certain games. Games that have remasters already coming or out like gears and halo aren't going to cut their own throat.

Sony is'nt the only one doing remasters and I think it's a little hyperbolic to say that he gave anyone the middlefinger.

Personally, I'm getting real tired of remasters but it makes perfect sense that there's a large new customer base, and a lot of old customers actually want them.

If anything, pointing out that there's always going to be backlash rather than spouting PR speak, is honest.

@MlauTheDaft:

They're not the only ones doing remasters, but they're the only ones who still don't offer backwards compatibility as an option.

The new users could have just bought the old ones for far less than the remasters and the want for remasters only came about when Sony pulled backwards compatibility from the PS3.

If Yoshida were to be honest, he's just outright admit remasters are just a lazy cash grab that exploits a missing feature, not just pass off complaints as 'hater's gonna hate'.

People are obviously buying them so they will keep making them. Personally I don't mind a remaster as long as it's an old enough game to warrant one. To me that's a game in the wrong aspect ratio for modern TV's or something that just looks very dated now getting completely modernised like Homeworld. Personally I don't see the point in slightly upresed version of a last gen game but if other people want this and are buying them how can you blame the devs for making them?

@megane: I think ps3 BC will never happen for technical reasons, not due to laziness.

I'm almost positive that most PS4 owners would like to play Uncharted 1-3 at 1080p and 60 FPS. You not asking for it =/= everyone else not asking for it.

The sentiment is correct, but most is wrong.

No, you're not understanding me, the fact that people would want to play this is not in question, the fact is really no one asked for this. I haven't seen anyone really on any forum board on the entire internet request this let alone droves of people causing enough attention to make it noticed by Sony.

This was drought and delay resolution, not some much requested collection.

Is it really? I've constantly seen people asking for Uncharted 1-3 to be remastered. They were the most popular exclusives on the PS3.

Where? Before this collection was rumored can you show me even five examples of people asking for it on the whole of the internet?

I wouldn't be entirely against a remaster if it was sold at a cheaper price, or if at the very least there was a remaster collection, where you'd have multiple games in one to perhaps justify a $60 game tag.

But having a single last gen game being sold again for $60 if where it gets kind of ridiculous to me.

@MlauTheDaft:

That's debatable for the PS4, but I'm sure they could make it work if they really wanted to, but of course any technical reasons are 100% Sony's fault for the mess of the PS3.

Not to mention the PS3 already had backwards compatibility that got pulled and never returned, so the will is obviously not there anyway.

@megane: The PS3's BC was a hardware implementation and the later software one apparently was'nt very good. I'm mostly a PC guy and not really into the blame game anymore, so I'll just say that the vost/benefit analysis probably speaks against ps3 BC, if it's doable at all.

What, five specific examples? Too lazy to compile all that just to prove a dumb point on the internet. But here's some people asking for it: http://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/search?q=uncharted+remaster

Sony is too busy selling re-masters and over charging their user base for PS3 games on PSNow than enabling backward compatibility.

I don't get the hate for remasters. If you don't want them then don't buy them. But they sell so there are consumers that want those games.

why make a thread for this?

I did... I said in a post I would be great if they remastered Uncharted, but I also said it would be great if the packed it in with the next instalment so people who didn't own a PS3 could play it, would be an awesome bonus.

But I'll just wait until it drops in price to something reasonable like <£20.

Lol you cows go through the most hilarious mental gymnastics in a vain attempt to defend your god.

No, Sony would rather sell you the same games for a second or third time than give a solution for backwards compatibility.

Lets call this what it actually is ok?

It's a pretty shameless money grab to smokescreen the fact that their library is kinda shit (Right now). A delaying tactic if you will, surrounded in a layer of "The fans asked for it"..

You know I doubt those who already own a last gen game re purchased a remaster. (I suppose a few might but that is undoubtedly a minority). However someone without the last gen console might pick that game up. Especially if it was really well reviewed game. Why do you act like people are constantly re buying the same games? It shows a certain lack of critical thinking.

Sales will prove otherwise.

I don't actually have a problem with remasters. Let those who want them buy them. What I dislike is the lack of backwards compatibility in my consoles. It's a feature of PC gaming that I find very valuable. I dislike having to start over again when I buy a new console.

I also dislike the hypocrisy and inconsistency of many people in the gaming community on these kinds of issues.

About remasters you say "if you don't like them then don't buy them" and I agree with that idea. But wouldn't that also apply to DLC? Some people act like remasters are fine but then turn around and act like DLC is of the devil. I don't understand this mentality. DLC has never really bothered me. I view it as mostly superfluous stuff that hardcore fans might find valuable, but isn't essential for most of us. In the rare cases when it does look substantial and worthwhile to me, I don't mind paying for it. Basically, I buy the DLC I like and ignore the rest.

Sure DLC is extra and if you want to buy it.....it's your call. I don't like how you buy a game though and pay for DLC then complete editions come out with everything for less though.

That's not the point. The point is that if the friggin game came not even 5 years ago and they feel a need to remaster it then there is probably a better case of having backwards compatibility than to repackage something that really doesn't need to be "remastered". I'd rather the resources be spent elsewhere on new experiences. What the hell is the use of making a new console if you are going to just crap out games from the previous one out to people?

Critical thinking? Please.

I've bought remasters for all systems. WiiU, X1 and PS4

So?

If enough people dont want them they'll stop making them. It appears enough people want them because their still getting made for ALL consoles.

So?

dont buy them and move on,.

1st party games (or any big budget game) takes time to make. It seems like people like you would rather them rush a game to market than you can complain about it being crap.. Things take time. Just because you didn't like some of the games doesn't mean everyone did. I can say the same thing you just did about all the xbone exclusives (halo, forza, sunset overrdrive) doesn't mean I am right, as I am sure other people like them. Just like there are people who like infamous, drive club, killzone etc..

What you think is "worth a damn" is subjective. Most people in the real world don't care what is exclusive or first party, as most people don't own multiple consoles.

Even going with the "Exclusive" narrative... Sony still has a lot of exclusives for 2015

The OrderBloodborne
MLB the show
Samurai Warriors 4-2
Until Dawn
Dragon Quest Heroes
Persona 5
Disgaea 5
Tales of Zestria
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Tearaway Unfolded
Uncharted Collection
Gow3 remaster

(yes you can play uncharted games on ps3 and mlb the show..but really who cares, and no one with a ps4 will be buying to play them on ps3)

That's a lot of games and I left out indies like axiom verge and rocket league etc.. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean shit. Other people have opinions too.. Like I said I can say halo, gears, forza is all crap... I and I am right for myself, but others like them so it can't be taken at face value.
How is it that Halo 5, Froza 6, and Gears hd can be said to be a bigger lineup than all i listed. It's not and everything is subjective.

For me being able to get dying light, bloodborn, Dragon quest heroes, persona 5, witcher 3, disgaea 5, FFx remake, ff type 0, Tropico 5, Batman, MGS5, Fallout 4, Battlefront 3, Uncharted collection, Until dawn, Divinity original sin redone, Tales of zestria, everyones gone to rapture, Samuari warriors 4-2, new hitman, just cause 3, ac syndicate, etc... is a huge list of games for 2015 and will kill my wallet.

i have no problems with ports / remaster (still dont see the difference with the 2)

ppl act like they are forced to buy them.

A lot of them probably think its taking the studios away from new ips, but in reality they are being ported by 3rd party studios that specialize in porting games

a lot of them think money is better used to fund other projects. now im not sure how finances are handled and all, but i think porting actually makes some money for the ip owners to fund bigger projects and new ips that may or may not make money.

a lot of ppl swear that porting is a new concept to gaming.

yep.

wut

"BC sucks, XBOX needs something better. "

One minute later,

"Sony remaster are amazing. Just more games for me to play!"

There is not a bigger brain washed faction at this site.

you don't have to buy them lol.

If people didn't buy them they wouldn't do them, so they are catering for their audience because people must be buying them.

LOL, lemmings have been served.

I don´t have a problem with remasters as long as they offer you something more other than an improved version of the original, for ex:

God Of War Omega Collection: that´s 4 remasters ( GoW1, GoW2, Ghost of Sparta and Chains of Olympus ) + 1 GoW3 + Steelbook + Figure for $65

TLoUR: improved version of TLoU + $15 DLC for $60

DMC HD collection: 3 improved games for $60

Halo MCC: 2 remasters + 2 improved games for $60 ( the games themselves are not flawed, what´s flawed is the MP )

But trying to sell me the same old just with enhanced graphics without any bonus ----> GTFO !