bu buh you need $2000 computer

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"][QUOTE="Israelli"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]360 & ps3 life span around 5 years pc gaming life spend 1.5 years max settings -2.5 med settings -3 years low setiing 4 years unplayabledeadmeat59

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = medium/low settings
6 years = low settings

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = $ 300 upgrade max settings
7 years = max/medium settings
8 years = medium settings
9 years = medium/low settings
10 years = low settings

fixed.

However, we all know PC gaming is more expensive then console gaming up front. But we also know if you kick in the HDTV which most people have here, it's actually less expensive. And considering you can play PC in a much higher resolution then HDTV's anyway it doesn't make sense also.

But whatever. You pay for what you get and PC gaming is always one step beyong console gaming.

Yea but that's still cheaper then an HDTV, and when are you sitting a foot and a half away from an HDTV? Monitors fill the same amount of your vision as an HDTV, since you're meant to sit farther from an HD then a monitor.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"][QUOTE="Israelli"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]360 & ps3 life span around 5 years pc gaming life spend 1.5 years max settings -2.5 med settings -3 years low setiing 4 years unplayabledeadmeat59

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = medium/low settings
6 years = low settings

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = $ 300 upgrade max settings
7 years = max/medium settings
8 years = medium settings
9 years = medium/low settings
10 years = low settings

fixed.

However, we all know PC gaming is more expensive then console gaming up front. But we also know if you kick in the HDTV which most people have here, it's actually less expensive. And considering you can play PC in a much higher resolution then HDTV's anyway it doesn't make sense also.

But whatever. You pay for what you get and PC gaming is always one step beyong console gaming.

i spent just a little over 200 dollars on my moniter around 2 years ago, and i game at 2048 x 1536

[QUOTE="jkmetalf"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]When can I play MGS4, Rachet and Clank TOD? Heavenly Sword? Uncharted? Warhawk? Little Big Planet?, on a computer?Heil68

When Can I play wow, crysis, spore, hellgate london, use mods (biggie) play cs:s on teh 360 or da ps3?

I have no monies for the other systems :( I want to play silent hill 5 when it comes out, not when its ported to p.c. But, I can't have everything can I? Actually, I like the ps3. Its stylish, quiet, free online, blu-ray and has its far share of good games coming out.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

Polaris_choice

That processor sucks and theres not enough Ram sorry that thing is notgoing to do as well as either a PS3 or 360.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It costed me $1300 to upgrade my processor, RAM, HDD, and to put in an 8800GTX.

You're posting a cheap setup.

Magical_Zebra

OWNAGE APPROVED. A very cheap setup at that. :shock:

It costed me $1300 to upgrade my processor, RAM, HDD, and to put in an 8800GTX.

You're posting a cheap setup.

BioShockOwnz

yet even the 6K computers at e3 couldnt run crysis without being choppy as hell.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more

Bdking57

They didnt have a $6000 PC. Do you have a link??? Or is this just from your crystal ball that tells you everything??? Plus like someone else said. They havent released crysis because they are still optimizing it so it will run great. Next time think before using your crystal ball.

yet even the 6K computers at e3 couldnt run crysis without being choppy as hell. Bdking57

Weres vandalvideo when you need him.

Weres vandalvideo when you need him.

Killfox

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

Weres vandalvideo when you need him.

Heil68

No, its because you people areso stubborn and misinformed that you think every fallacy you make up is true. Last time I checked fallacies are far far from the truth.

but this is my rig:D

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwgjv&s=bsd

but this is my rig:D

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwgjv&s=bsd

imelitenow

Nice rig, it will serve you well and for a long time.

The HDD is too small...Vista will take a nice chunk out of it.If your gonna be an avid PC gammer,you need a bigger HDD than that.A card with atleast 256mb of RAM would be better too...128mb is outdated.Nice computer though.

While console fanboys do have insane views of how much PC gaming cost, the PC the TC linked is a pos

Doubt it would run Crysis since that game is supposed to be DX10 only.DSgamer64

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It costed me $1300 to upgrade my processor, RAM, HDD, and to put in an 8800GTX.

You're posting a cheap setup.

dracolich666

1. About $1000-1200 machine will do you good for 24-28 Months.

2. Don't buy a dell.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Killfox"]

Weres vandalvideo when you need him.

Killfox

No, its because you people areso stubborn and misinformed that you think every fallacy you make up is true. Last time I checked fallacies are far far from the truth.

Lol at you and myself saying the same thing..lol its not about thinking for ones self but when vandal shows up he shuts everything down

360 & ps3 life span around 5 years pc gaming life spend 1.5 years max settings -2.5 med settings -3 years low setiing 4 years unplayabledeadmeat59

You do know that you can mix settings, correct? For instance, you can have some on Ultra, some on high, some on medium, and some on low.........yay igornance!!!!

You guys shouldn't take out the monitor as part of the price.

You need a decent monitor to play games in a great resolution.

pc gaming is expensive end of story it also does not last long and has to be kept clean of spyware adware virus and so on.deadmeat59

Kaspersky. Problem Solved

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

mastershake575

Lol, you can barely run current games on all high settings with that setup. I don't mean to make fun of you, but in all honesty you get a better deal buying a console where everything is standardized and guranteed to run the correct way. Really for PC gaming you should plan to spend big if you want an experience superior to that of a console and worth spending the extra money. Spend around $1,500 on the pc alone (no monitor or speakers) and you got a rig that will last you about two years if you want to run your games on all high settings in contrast to spending $400 or less on a console which is guranteed to run the games you buy at the highest settings of the respective console for its entire lifespan. Sure PC gaming is superior, but only if you spend the big bucks. If you don't care what your games look like or whether they run at 30 fps on low settings compared to 60 fps on high settings then more power to you. That doesn't change the fact however that consoles are much more economically priced for a similar experience if you just take into account the gaming aspects of the PC. I don't think however that the PC vs. Console debate is going to come to an end anytime soon. Just take this into account; (I don't think anyone will disagree with me) a $400 computer and lets even go as far to say you built it (so you get better quality parts for cheaper), would still not run games nearly as well as an Xbox 360.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"][QUOTE="Israelli"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]360 & ps3 life span around 5 years pc gaming life spend 1.5 years max settings -2.5 med settings -3 years low setiing 4 years unplayabledeadmeat59

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = medium/low settings
6 years = low settings

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = $ 300 upgrade max settings
7 years = max/medium settings
8 years = medium settings
9 years = medium/low settings
10 years = low settings

fixed.

However, we all know PC gaming is more expensive then console gaming up front. But we also know if you kick in the HDTV which most people have here, it's actually less expensive. And considering you can play PC in a much higher resolution then HDTV's anyway it doesn't make sense also.

But whatever. You pay for what you get and PC gaming is always one step beyong console gaming.

And a 1080p HDTV doesn't? lol

Cheapest 1080p hdtv I could find: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112174

Cheapest lcd that goes over 1080p: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001234

Hope I helped

You guys shouldn't take out the monitor as part of the price.

You need a decent monitor to play games in a great resolution.

FrozenLiquid

Add's price of Decent HDTV to console becuse you need it to plays games in a great resolution. PS3 now = $1499

360 & ps3 life span around 5 years pc gaming life spend 1.5 years max settings -2.5 med settings -3 years low setiing 4 years unplayabledeadmeat59

So true...

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

You guys shouldn't take out the monitor as part of the price.

You need a decent monitor to play games in a great resolution.

Marka1700

Add's price of Decent HDTV to console becuse you need it to plays games in a great resolution. PS3 now = $1499

Wasn't talking about a PS3.

This thread is about a $2000 setup.

Why leave out the price of a monitor?

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

You guys shouldn't take out the monitor as part of the price.

You need a decent monitor to play games in a great resolution.

FrozenLiquid

Add's price of Decent HDTV to console becuse you need it to plays games in a great resolution. PS3 now = $1499

Wasn't talking about a PS3.

This thread is about a $2000 setup.

Why leave out the price of a monitor?

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

You guys shouldn't take out the monitor as part of the price.

You need a decent monitor to play games in a great resolution.

FrozenLiquid

Add's price of Decent HDTV to console becuse you need it to plays games in a great resolution. PS3 now = $1499

Wasn't talking about a PS3.

This thread is about a $2000 setup.

Why leave out the price of a monitor?

Becuase it's a one time investment that isn't part of the PC.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

ChevelleFan

Lol, you can barely run current games on all high settings with that setup.

2. the x1950xt eats games alive what are you talking about

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"][QUOTE="deadmeat59"][QUOTE="Israelli"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]360 & ps3 life span around 5 years pc gaming life spend 1.5 years max settings -2.5 med settings -3 years low setiing 4 years unplayableDeltoidRecon

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = medium/low settings
6 years = low settings

1 year = max settings
3 years = max/medium settings
4 years = medium settings
5 years = $ 300 upgrade max settings
7 years = max/medium settings
8 years = medium settings
9 years = medium/low settings
10 years = low settings

fixed.

However, we all know PC gaming is more expensive then console gaming up front. But we also know if you kick in the HDTV which most people have here, it's actually less expensive. And considering you can play PC in a much higher resolution then HDTV's anyway it doesn't make sense also.

But whatever. You pay for what you get and PC gaming is always one step beyong console gaming.

And a 1080p HDTV doesn't? lol

Cheapest 1080p hdtv I could find: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112174

Cheapest lcd that goes over 1080p: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001234

Hope I helped

Takethe monitor and TV out of the equation (taking out the PC monitor was stated in the first post). You really can't compare prices including a monitor or TV. For example $1500 PC that can actually run at high settings at 1080p equivalent or higher and then add a $500 that is less then 32"monitor making the total cost $2000. Take a $500 console and add a $1500 1080p HDTV that is 40" and the total cost comes to $2000.

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

mastershake575

not true. if you are building a whole computer(everything including mouse and keyboard and os) and buying everything yourself, its impossible to cost less than 1000 to run all these new games such as crysis on full.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

You guys shouldn't take out the monitor as part of the price.

You need a decent monitor to play games in a great resolution.

Marka1700

Add's price of Decent HDTV to console becuse you need it to plays games in a great resolution. PS3 now = $1499

I bought my 60 inch HDTV before the X360 and PS3 were available and guess what.............. I bought it to watch HiDef Programming.Lets not forget, for gaming purposes the immersion level provided by a big screen tv cannot be understated.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

mistervengeance

not true. if you are building a whole computer(everything including mouse and keyboard and os) and buying everything yourself, its impossible to cost less than 1000 to run all these new games such as crysis on full.

[QUOTE="ChevelleFan"][QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

mastershake575

Lol, you can barely run current games on all high settings with that setup.

2. the x1950xt eats games alive what are you talking about

I own a X1950XT you ignorant pc fanboy and I can tell you it does not "eat games alive." Hello, earth to hermits have you never seen Gears of War? I would dare to say it looks better than most PC games today. Look at reviews for the 8600GT and even people with an E6600 and 2 gigs of ram struggle to play current games on the highest settings. Sure a 8600GT is not too bad right now, but only if you have the other hardware to back it up and what happens when Bioshock, Gears of War,Crysis, or UT3 come out? I seriously doubt a 8600GT is going to offer a greater experience over that of console. Why don't you quote the rest of my post next time instead of making it look like I am here just to bash the PC. Take a look at the unions I am in, I think I know what I am talking about. If it was extremely evident that a 500 somewhat PC offered an experience far superior to that ofa console then why are we even debating this subject. Consoles would not be taking over the gaming market because everyone could afford a great gaming PC and do other stuff on it too. Too bad most of us live in reality.

This thread is full of misinformed console fanboys, hope you guys grow a brainLonelynight

Proof that even the hermits are subject to fanboyism.

yet even the 6K computers at e3 couldnt run crysis without being choppy as hell.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more

Bdking57

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="ChevelleFan"][QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

ChevelleFan

Lol, you can barely run current games on all high settings with that setup.

2. the x1950xt eats games alive what are you talking about

I own a X1950XT you ignorant pc fanboy and I can tell you it does not "eat games alive." Hello, earth to hermits have you never seen Gears of War? I would dare to say it looks better than most PC games today. Look at reviews for the 8600GT and even people with an E6600 and 2 gigs of ram struggle to play current games on the highest settings. Sure a 8600GT is not too bad right now, but only if you have the other hardware to back it up and what happens when Bioshock, Gears of War,Crysis, or UT3 come out? I seriously doubt a 8600GT is going to offer a greater experience over that of console. Why don't you quote the rest of my post next time instead of making it look like I am here just to bash the PC. Take a look at the unions I am in, I think I know what I am talking about. If it was extremely evident that a 500 somewhat PC offered an experience far superior to that ofa console then why are we even debating this subject. Consoles would not be taking over the gaming market because everyone could afford a great gaming PC and do other stuff on it too. Too bad most of us live in reality.

2. the 8600gt and x1950xt have good hardware to back it up

3. yeah when those games come out there's no way there looking better a console thats a pretty good sytem i listed its got a pretty good processor 4x as much ram and gpu's on par if not better than the consoles

4. yeah sry bout that

It costed me $1300 to upgrade my processor, RAM, HDD, and to put in an 8800GTX.

You're posting a cheap setup.

BioShockOwnz

Games don't need high-end graphics setting to play good.

[QUOTE="mastershake575"][QUOTE="ChevelleFan"][QUOTE="mastershake575"]

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bdcwyfz&s=bsd select no monitor and add a 8600gt to make the price $569and you have a great gaming machine so why do people say buh buz you need a $2000 computer when you can get that one cheaper than the ps3 that will play games on par if not better and do so much more plus if you spend $50 more you can get a 1950xt which is way better than the consoles gpu

ChevelleFan

Lol, you can barely run current games on all high settings with that setup.

2. the x1950xt eats games alive what are you talking about

I own a X1950XT you ignorant pc fanboy and I can tell you it does not "eat games alive." Hello, earth to hermits have you never seen Gears of War? I would dare to say it looks better than most PC games today. Look at reviews for the 8600GT and even people with an E6600 and 2 gigs of ram struggle to play current games on the highest settings. Sure a 8600GT is not too bad right now, but only if you have the other hardware to back it up and what happens when Bioshock, Gears of War,Crysis, or UT3 come out? I seriously doubt a 8600GT is going to offer a greater experience over that of console. Why don't you quote the rest of my post next time instead of making it look like I am here just to bash the PC. Take a look at the unions I am in, I think I know what I am talking about. If it was extremely evident that a 500 somewhat PC offered an experience far superior to that ofa console then why are we even debating this subject. Consoles would not be taking over the gaming market because everyone could afford a great gaming PC and do other stuff on it too. Too bad most of us live in reality.

Lol obviously you know NOTHING about Epic and a little game they created called Unreal Tournament. All Unreal Tournament games have been otpimized to provide a broad user base. I was able to enjoy UT2004 with a 2000 Dell Optiplex (which had an "amazing" Intel 8mb integrated grfx chip, 800mhz Intel P3, 256mb ram, and 18 HDD) and on my brother's Dell laptop (Nvidia 5200 series).

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

You guys shouldn't take out the monitor as part of the price.

You need a decent monitor to play games in a great resolution.

mastershake575

Add's price of Decent HDTV to console becuse you need it to plays games in a great resolution. PS3 now = $1499

Wasn't talking about a PS3.

This thread is about a $2000 setup.

Why leave out the price of a monitor?

You do need a monitor to play games, don't you?

And you need a good one to play it at those ridiculous resolutions.