Bungie needs to step up their game and learn from Infinity Ward

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

ODST's biggest change was to make a shorter campaign with no new MP and sell it for $60 that's not positive change imo

vashkey

Well actually... I'd say adding visr mode, firefight and and the open night time level hub was some change.

Charging sixty dollars for a new camapign, a new survival mode and the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience doesn't seem any more dispicable to me than Infinity Ward rereleasing an inferior version of the original Call of Duty on XBLA and PSN only supporting 8-player match at max at a higher price point than what the PC version was at the time...

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]In the days of modern military shooters Halo is becoming an acquired taste.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]In the days of modern military shooters Halo is becoming an acquired taste.The_RedLion

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]In the days of modern military shooters Halo is becoming an acquired taste.The_RedLion

This is how COD MW2 quality may have been recieved

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/11/call-of-duty-black-ops-review-event-press-gifts-detailed.ars

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]In the days of modern military shooters Halo is becoming an acquired taste.The_RedLion

you do know there has been talk of people paid to give MW2 high scores due to the fact bad company 2 was a few months later right?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]In the days of modern military shooters Halo is becoming an acquired taste.The_RedLion

I should also mention that not only the critics are the ones who have noticed the rehash anddecrease of quality of the Halo series, but also the cunsomer:

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Halo&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=call+of+duty&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Halo Reach and Halo ODST sold less than Halo 3, but COD sales have increased.

I should also mention that not only the critics are the ones who have noticed the rehash anddecrease of quality of the Halo series, but also the cunsomer:

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Halo&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=call+of+duty&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Halo Reach and Halo ODST sold less than Halo 3, but COD sales have increased.

The_RedLion

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's kind of sad, really. Just goes to show how little bearing quality has on success.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's kind of sad, really. Just goes to show how little bearing quality has on success.super600

This is how COD MW2 quality may have been recieved

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/11/call-of-duty-black-ops-review-event-press-gifts-detailed.ars

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]In the days of modern military shooters Halo is becoming an acquired taste.The_RedLion

The funniest thing about this whole thread is that Bungie will never make another Halo game, and they are now working for the same company as the reamaining devs from IW (not even close to the caliber of the original team), and are now developing, if I remember right, an RPG.

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

I should also mention that not only the critics are the ones who have noticed the rehash anddecrease of quality of the Halo series, but also the cunsomer:

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Halo&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=call+of+duty&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Halo Reach and Halo ODST sold less than Halo 3, but COD sales have increased.

SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] COD4 and MW2 scored higher than Halo They sold more People play them more If that's not quality, nothing isThe_RedLion

This is how COD MW2 quality may have been recieved

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/11/call-of-duty-black-ops-review-event-press-gifts-detailed.ars

The same technique could havebeen used for MW2 you know.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

I should also mention that not only the critics are the ones who have noticed the rehash anddecrease of quality of the Halo series, but also the cunsomer:

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Halo&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=call+of+duty&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Halo Reach and Halo ODST sold less than Halo 3, but COD sales have increased.

The_RedLion

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's kind of sad, really. Just goes to show how little bearing quality has on success.vashkey

i don't only use sales, i also use scores of games of the same genre. is angry birds a console fps? no. it has nothing to do with this. for a iphone game it's very high quality.

and bungie needs to step their game up because they're no longer the prime fps devs. last gen halo was king, so were they. now they another one of the bunch.

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

This is how COD MW2 quality may have been recieved

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/11/call-of-duty-black-ops-review-event-press-gifts-detailed.ars

super600

The same technique could havebeen used for MW2 you know.

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

I should also mention that not only the critics are the ones who have noticed the rehash anddecrease of quality of the Halo series, but also the cunsomer:

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Halo&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=call+of+duty&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Halo Reach and Halo ODST sold less than Halo 3, but COD sales have increased.

SaltyMeatballs

Sony has the best FPS this gen? :lol:

Sony has the best FPS this gen? :lol:

brickdoctor

Halo Reach: 91

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-reach

MW2: 94

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2

Critics + gamers (sales) agree with me.

The_RedLion

GS disagrees, however

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of-2010/genre-awards/index.html?page=7- one game scored a 9.5 and one didn't

*looks at the amount of content, and polish Bungie puts into Halo games. Also notices the balance the game actually has*

*looks at every other console FPS*

Nope, I still see Bungie as the absolute king when it comes to console FPS games.

Good thing I don't play scores. Halo has always been the better series than Call of Duty IMO. I only play COD For teh Lulz, while I play Halo because I like playing fun games.

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Sony has the best FPS this gen? :lol:

bongpock

If only it played that way as well...

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Sony has the best FPS this gen? :lol:

bongpock

Oh and i'm guessing the overall quality rest of the game doesn't matter ey?

i agree infinity ward is better than bungie. They make wayyy better sp and mp. Only thing the halo games do better are probably the 'community' bungie.net and some features (like forge) but features dont make the core fundamentals better.campzor

Are you kidding... There is nothing behind the MW campaigns.. Go here, shoot this, get this bad guy, Russian got away.

The community isnt that great though.. i'll say that.

i agree infinity ward is better than bungie. They make wayyy better sp and mp. Only thing the halo games do better are probably the 'community' bungie.net and some features (like forge) but features dont make the core fundamentals better.campzor

Halo and Call of Duty are kinda in the same boat. Only difference is COD is multiplat.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Halo and Call of Duty are kinda in the same boat. Only difference is COD is multiplat.

bongpock

[QUOTE="bongpock"][QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

Halo and Call of Duty are kinda in the same boat. Only difference is COD is multiplat.

soulitane

Please don't feed him, he thrives off your attention. Just let the mods deal with the Ban dodger.

truly halo reach and call of duty play almost the same only difference call of duty has a iron sight.bongpock

Cod 4 = Cod 2 + perks + nicer gfx

Waw - Rehash

MW2 - Rehash

Black Ops - Rehash

MW3 - Rehash

Nah, I'm happy Halo was never a laggy hacked mess like MW2 and CoD 4. I like that the only updates Bungie gave us weren't DLC while neglecting problems. IW is a joke.

Are you kidding... There is nothing behind the MW campaigns.. Go here, shoot this, get this bad guy, Russian got away.

The community isnt that great though.. i'll say that.

Hobbsey07

yeah, mw2's mp was so balanced and better.smokingsbad

they made cod 1 + 2 also.... but i guess people forget about that

[QUOTE="Hobbsey07"]

Are you kidding... There is nothing behind the MW campaigns.. Go here, shoot this, get this bad guy, Russian got away.

The community isnt that great though.. i'll say that.

campzor

yeah, mw2's mp was so balanced and better.smokingsbad

they made cod 1 + 2 also.... but i guess people forget about that

Halo Reach: 91

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-reach

MW2: 94

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2

Critics + gamers (sales) agree with me.

The_RedLion

Is that 91 for Reach and it's sales figures a failure is it?

Thats interesting and take that as a very important consideration.