Bungie: Sony and Killzone2 Inspired us to make Halo: Reach

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#101 ihazfishsticks
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No wonder Halo reach remind me so much of KillZone 2

finalstar2007
What exactly reminds you of Killzone 2? Reach is a wide open world, where you could use multiple ways to defeat the enemies. Killzone 2 was a corridor shooter. I however am glade that Bungie was inspired by Killzone 2 and Sony. Competition brings out the best. Just look at how much Sports games improved when Sega created 2K Sports (before EA bought out the football rights). Or look at the SIM racing genre between GT and Forza.
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#102 too_much_eslim
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Wow. Bungie never said this. This is straight up BS.
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#103 walkingdream
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Not surprising. Everything SONY does is quality and makes people look up to what they do.pstripl3
i LOLED
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#104 mitu123
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hiphopgamer. :lol: That dude just said Killzone 2 is the best looking FPS on the market right now in his video. Fail. :lol:Stevo_the_gamer
He forgot about Crysis.:P

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#105 GreySeal9
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Wow. Bungie never said this. This is straight up BS.too_much_eslim

It's pretty sad how many people are just accepting the thread title without questioning it.

No wonder it's so easy for politicians to manipulate people.

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#107 RadecSupreme
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Why is he still used as a source? We should keep hip hop gamer out of system wars unless he has the proof.

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#108 djsifer01
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I see no one from Bungie saying this. Why make a thread topic with no proof of Bungie saying anything?
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#109 GreySeal9
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I see no one from Bungie saying this. Why make a thread topic with no proof of Bungie saying anything?djsifer01

Well, he's got alot of people believing it (just look at the thread) without hesitation, so who needs proof?

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#110 Totalgym9000
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Killzone 2 is a great game, funny how lemmins cant admit it but there most beloved devs can.
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#111 HermitGTX
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I don't trust hip hops

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#112 GreySeal9
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Killzone 2 is a great game, funny how lemmins cant admit it but there most beloved devs can.Totalgym9000

They didn't admit anything. Did you not click on the link or read the thread?

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#113 too_much_eslim
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Killzone 2 is a great game, funny how lemmins cant admit it but there most beloved devs can.Totalgym9000
wow do you not see the posts stating that Bungie didn't say this?
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#114 HermitGTX
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Killzone 2 is a great game, funny how lemmins cant admit it but there most beloved devs can.Totalgym9000

Do cowpiles admit to liking Halo?

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#115 ImageChef
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Do people believe anything when you have a link? Do people not realize that "Hip-Hop Gamer" is essentially a bias-Ps3 person who has a website? He quite commonly, in fact perhaps exclusively, makes up stories for his "news."
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#116 jg4xchamp
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According to Hiphopgamer? Or did Bungie actually say this?AAllxxjjnn
Yeah I want the answer to this. Hip Hop Gamer is an idiot. I want a Bungie representative saying this. Not Hip Hop Gamer.
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#117 The_Game21x
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:lol: HipHopGamer

That guy is an embarassment to Hip-Hop and gaming journalism.

TC, a piece of advice. If you want people to take you seriously, don't link HipHopGamer and use anything he's said as the basis of your argument.

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#118 Lethargika
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Even if HHG wasn't just making this up, it's a good thing, opposing companies giving eachother props, and gathering ideas from eachother is a good thing. There is no "ownage" here. Thinking along those lines is kinda juvenile don't ya think?

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#119 J-Stantino
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[QUOTE="fire-dragon-90"]

Bungie Addmits that if it wasnt for Sony's great exclusives and Killzone 2 they wouldnt have thought about Halo: Reach and saying Sony deserves alot of credit.

http://hiphopgamershow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sony-inspired-bungies-halo

batman_is_aweso

lol hiphopgamer

lol /thread

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#120 Blue-Sky
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TC your thread is misleading, replace Bungie with HHG in your topic title, Please.

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#121 ImageChef
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And you know, learn proper formatting: HipHopGamer: "Quote" -Bungie .
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#122 PtothaWHAT
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No wonder Halo reach remind me so much of KillZone 2

finalstar2007

Oh you played it?

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#123 ChiChiMonKilla
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I can see how Ms would have to step up their game after getting outdone by sony comp is good for gamers.

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#124 darthvader1993
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Ib b4 a cow claims ownage

Modern_Unit

oops, one post behind.:roll:

competition really does bring out the best in developers.

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#125 SilentlyMad
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1.) Not sure if HHG has a source on this one. The video won't load for me right now, so I can't watch it...

2.) Whether it's true or not, I'll say that I think Halo Reach's visuals do remind me of KZ2 in ways. Dark, gritty, and pretty :).

Episode_Eve
So did Killzone influence Gears of War, Half Life, Doom, Quake,and on and on? OMG Killzone invented the dark and gritty feel. Oh wait Hiphopgamer said this so it must be true
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#126 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Did you guys hear that? It was the sound of Lemmings everywhere dying a little inside.

Chutebox

Because some clown said he thinks Bungie used KZ2 as inspiration, lol. Do you know what inspired KZ and therefore KZ2? think of it this way, Halo 3 has sold 11 million copies, KZ2 hasn't even sold 3 million, which is the game to copy?

You got me before I deleted that. I was hasty lol.

Lol tried to delete that crazy spew when you found out you were wrong. Do not worry hiphopgamer will say some other crazy thing you can believe right off the bat soon enough.

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#127 oajlu
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Bungie Addmits that if it wasnt for Sony's great exclusives and Killzone 2 they wouldnt have thought about Halo: Reach and saying Sony deserves alot of credit.

http://hiphopgamershow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sony-inspired-bungies-halo

fire-dragon-90

then it's going to be horrible...

killzone 2=poor frame rate, screen tearing, and slow loading.

yes, lighting is beautiful, but slow frame rate makes it bad in front of cod/mw

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#128 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="fire-dragon-90"]

Bungie Addmits that if it wasnt for Sony's great exclusives and Killzone 2 they wouldnt have thought about Halo: Reach and saying Sony deserves alot of credit.

http://hiphopgamershow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sony-inspired-bungies-halo

oajlu

then it's going to be horrible...

killzone 2=poor frame rate, screen tearing, and slow loading.

yes, lighting is beautiful, but slow frame rate makes it bad in front of cod/mw

It doesn't have a bad frame rate. It runs at 30 FPS which is what most games do. CoD is one of the few console games that runs at 60 FPS but it's visuals don't touch Killzone 2's.

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#129 oajlu
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[QUOTE="oajlu"]

[QUOTE="fire-dragon-90"]

Bungie Addmits that if it wasnt for Sony's great exclusives and Killzone 2 they wouldnt have thought about Halo: Reach and saying Sony deserves alot of credit.

http://hiphopgamershow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sony-inspired-bungies-halo

BPoole96

then it's going to be horrible...

killzone 2=poor frame rate, screen tearing, and slow loading.

yes, lighting is beautiful, but slow frame rate makes it bad in front of cod/mw

It doesn't have a bad frame rate. It runs at 30 FPS which is what most games do. CoD is one of the few console games that runs at 60 FPS but it's visuals don't touch Killzone 2's.

20-30 fps is horrible frame rate for fps...unlike tps, ppl can easily tell the difference of frame rate speed on fps. kz2 is so laggy if you play it right after mw/mw2/waw/halo 3.

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#130 Kickinurass
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

then it's going to be horrible...

killzone 2=poor frame rate, screen tearing, and slow loading.

yes, lighting is beautiful, but slow frame rate makes it bad in front of cod/mw

oajlu

It doesn't have a bad frame rate. It runs at 30 FPS which is what most games do. CoD is one of the few console games that runs at 60 FPS but it's visuals don't touch Killzone 2's.

20-30 fps is horrible frame rate for fps...unlike tps, ppl can easily tell the difference of frame rate speed on fps. kz2 is so laggy if you play it right after mw/mw2/waw/halo 3.

I'm sure Halo 3 runs at 30 FPS. Even if it doesn't, Halo's gameplay isn't what I would called fast paced...

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#131 boredy-Mcbored
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HHG is a joke. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if KZ2's graphics did make them push a little harder on Reach's new engine.

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#132 _SWAG_
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hiphopgamer is a very reliable source. he always gets it right n bungie should be thankful becoz if it wasnt for sony the xbox wouldnt exist

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#133 Modern_Unit
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hiphopgamer is a very reliable source. he always gets it right n bungie should be thankful becoz if it wasnt for sony the xbox wouldnt exist

_SWAG_

Your post is as credible as your quote in my sig..

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#134 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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wow i never thought i'll be looking foward to a halo game now

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#135 Doolz2024
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Good, maybe this inspiration will lead to me actually liking Reach. for whatever reason, Halo games just never appealed to me. odst was ok though.
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#136 Shattered007
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HHG: "Killzone 2 is the best looking and technical FPS you can buy on the market right now"! I was done there...
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#137 t3hTwinky
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I'm fairly certain Bungie's inspiration came in the form of a briefcase full of money.

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#138 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

hiphopgamer is a very reliable source. he always gets it right n bungie should be thankful becoz if it wasnt for sony the xbox wouldnt exist

Modern_Unit

Your post is as credible as your quote in my sig..

I think he is just being sarcastic

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#139 FloWeN-UK
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competition brings out the best

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I wouldn't say their trying to compete if they find it an inspiration.
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#140 istreakforfood
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hiphopgamer is a very reliable source. he always gets it right n bungie should be thankful becoz if it wasnt for sony the xbox wouldnt exist

_SWAG_

Yes that is true in bizarro world :D

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#141 Merex760
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Oh god I clicked play on the video. Help :s

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#142 tonitorsi
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And Halo inspired Gorrilla to make Killzone... OMG TEH FULL CIRCLE

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Yes because Halo is the first, 1st person shooter to have ever been created :P

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#143 killerfist
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Well, yeah..Halo is the Killzone-killer after all. Oh wait... :P J/P
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#144 Tessellation
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that video is full of bs and lies,he has nothing to back him up,like always hiphopgamer lying to get traffic on his blog.
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#145 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

And Halo inspired Gorrilla to make Killzone... OMG TEH FULL CIRCLE

tonitorsi

Yes because Halo is the first, 1st person shooter to have ever been created :P

technically speaking. I do think the persistance in sticking with the Killzone series is because of the success Microsfot has had with Halo. I would assume Sony looks at it this way, if we negate Microsoft's biggest weapon(Halo in this case) than we can stampede them. Not saying Killzone is a halo clone or anything, but I do think Sony is wanting to have a FPS mega seller ala Halo.
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#146 R3FURBISHED
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competition brings out the best

CDUB316
Too true. Why would you not look towards the competition and/or other studios for inspiration?
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#147 racing1750
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KZ2 is a incredible game, so i'm not surprised.
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#148 Fizzman
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If i had one "freebie" murder, I would probably use it on hiphop gamer.

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#149 shabab12
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

I don't understand this thread.

Bungie said they wanted to make Halo Reach a great game and they wanted to up the ante on visuals for the game, so they rewrote the engine, looked at what a bunch other top looking games were doing, set themselves some higher benchmarks than Halo 3 or ODST, etc. They are on the record a dozen times saying things like this.

Hiphopgamer is saying that they must of lookedat KZ2, since it is the best looking FPS. Well, duh...of course they did. Why wouldn't they? Just like I imagine they looked at UC, GeOW etc etc.

How exactly is this news or ownage? Or do you believe that developers lock themselves in caves and ignore what everyone else is doing?

Vadamee
Except KZ2 is not the best looking FPS... I hate KZ2's art direction and its over use of blur and bloom to masks rough edges and low texture resolution. I personally thought Gears of War 2 looked better. GOW also used motion blur for its edges, but it was no were near the degree of what Gorilla Games did for KZ2. I don't see how you can compare a game the size of Halo 3/Reach to a game with a much more linear world like Killzone 2. Even Gears 2 was larger in scale than Killzone 2 was and it still manages to stand out graphically. It seems like the PS3's best games are all linear, whereas PC and 360 games seems to be much larger and still manage to look amazing and in some cases, look better.

Joke post? Play Killzone 2 before comparing it to Gears of War 2 which it absolutely destroys. Also, sine when was killzone 2 linear? Its huge multiplayer levels even look better than gears/halo single player.
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#150 Arach666
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Hip Hop gamer?

[spoiler] LOL [/spoiler]