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#102 web966
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#103 ice144
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what the...why is lair beating Twilight princess?

That was the only game in the world to put System Wars in a Depression state for an extremely long time compared to normal...wtf...lair doesnt even come close to what I witnessed then.

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#104 BioShockOwnz
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what the...why is lair beating Twilight princess?

That was the only game in the world to put System Wars in a Depression state for an extremely long time compared to normal...wtf...lair doesnt even come close to what I witnessed then.

ice144

Because while TP was a small flop, it was still a great game. Lair was a huge flop and a horrible game.

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#105 XturnalS
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In terms of failing to meet the target score, Lair.

In terms of SW reaction, TP.

the-very-best

Nailed it.

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#106 t3hTwinky
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Hellgate London, but no Doom 3?

Doom 3 was an epic flop.

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#107 Gator08
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What!? Mass Effect, Metroid, Zelda, Resistance, NG2, Motorstorm are all good and are nowhere near the "biggest flops". LAIR IS THE BIGGEST FLOP!!
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#108 naval
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Lair definitely, killzone comes close though
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#109 6matt6
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what the...why is lair beating Twilight princess?

That was the only game in the world to put System Wars in a Depression state for an extremely long time compared to normal...wtf...lair doesnt even come close to what I witnessed then.

ice144

I think people have actually forgotten how much that game was hyped. It was supposed to be the thing to cure cancer and the first AAAA game to come along for a long time. It was supposed to be game of the century, turn water into wine and discover the meaning of life.

Jeff took a beating for that score and so did GS. People say sheep are well behaved well they're the most pleasant fanboys until you say one of their games suck or it flops.They win most rabid fanboys for me.

(For the record I love Zelda and loved TP just happen to agree it was over-hyped and didn't deliver)

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#110 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE! :D

yes, most of the posters on here probably don't remember that >.>

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#111 ice144
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[QUOTE="ice144"]

what the...why is lair beating Twilight princess?

That was the only game in the world to put System Wars in a Depression state for an extremely long time compared to normal...wtf...lair doesnt even come close to what I witnessed then.

BioShockOwnz

Because while TP was a small flop, it was still a great game. Lair was a huge flop and a horrible game.

Yes, but the TP score ravaged through System Wars, Nintendo fanboys were falling out of the sky spewing nonsense over this rating, something that I've yet to see happen again to any other game that flops(didnt see mario sunshine though).

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#112 6matt6
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="ice144"]

what the...why is lair beating Twilight princess?

That was the only game in the world to put System Wars in a Depression state for an extremely long time compared to normal...wtf...lair doesnt even come close to what I witnessed then.

ice144

Because while TP was a small flop, it was still a great game. Lair was a huge flop and a horrible game.

Yes, but the TP score ravaged through System Wars, Nintendo fanboys were falling out of the sky spewing nonsense over this rating, something that I've yet to see happen again to any other game that flops(didnt see mario sunshine though).

I also remember a few threads where sheep said they were going to murder Jeff :lol:

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#113 ringuzi
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the biggest flop would be a game that flops hard not just lightly like mass effect or zelda

im thinking lair, killzone, or red steel

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#114 facebooker
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idk about sw but killzone was hyped all over the internet, and beyond
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#115 Dreams-Visions
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Twilight Princess and Resistance, based on System Wars reaction.

Lair maybe by hyped score vs. final score.

So it depends on what criteria you want us to judge by?

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#116 PAL360
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Killzone, haze and lair!!!
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#117 waynehead895
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Killzone. I remember thinking that it could possibly be better than Halo. And then it was released. Lair I sort of knew it wasn't gonna be fun I just think it was gonna be that bad.

Resistance, NG2, and ME... if they are mentioned then so should Heavenly Sword and Shadowrun, they only barely missed the mark. In honesty none of these games should be mentioned. Or TP.

I can see why some would vote TP though. The day it happened was just unlike any other day on SW.

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#118 tman93
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SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE! :D

yes, most of the posters on here probably don't remember that >.>

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Lol darkspineslayer you just made your account last year... I remember you posting for your first or second time on SW bets.
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#119 SSJ_Nega
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All those games are actually rather good, except Lair, and Red Steel.

My vote goes to Lair.

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#120 BatmanBegins24
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Lair, by far. Mass Effect wasn't that big of a flop. It got an 8.5 for the 360 version and a 9 for the PC version. I wouldn't consider Resistance a flop either.
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#121 tman93
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But yea, the_very_best nailed it.

Of all time, Lair scorewise.

And in my time on Gamespot, I have never seen anything bigger than TP, I was part of that hate, now I feel embarrased about what I said but now I look back on it and wish SW could be that crazy every day.... fun times.

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#122 Shenmue_Jehuty
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This thread sucks big time; first of all Mass Effect didn't flop, it sold well over a million copies since its release. And second, where isAssassinsCreed? Given my options I'll choose Lair.
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#123 Acemaster27
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lair takes the cake.

And although it pains me as a sheep to say it, you forgot Super Mario Sunshine.

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#124 gonzalezj1
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This thread sucks big time; first of all Mass Effect didn't flop, it sold well over a million copies since its release. And second, where isAssassinsCreed? Given my options I'll choose Lair.Shenmue_Jehuty

You must not understand SW.

Mass Effect is considered a flop because there were a LOT of people hyping it as AAA and it didn't get AAA. It has nothing to do with sales.

Also, AC wasn't a flop. It scored AAA here on GS.

Anyway, my vote is for Red Steel. The sheep were hyping is so hard it was ridiculous. I had high hopes myself - it just seemed like such a good idea...

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#125 killab2oo5
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For those of you saying ":cry: That game isn't a flop!" or ":evil:This thread sucks!You don't have -instert flop here-!". I listed those games from the top of my head and just poste them to remind you of them. I began posting here when it was all about next-gen and I know of only a few flops from last gen. T_T They are only "honarable mentions"...feel free to choose your own game.
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#126 abdu4
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lair, but why isnt Haze in the list
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#127 killab2oo5
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lair, but why isnt Haze in the listabdu4
Lol just added...how the heck did I miss that. :?
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#128 killab2oo5
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Killzone. I remember thinking that it could possibly be better than Halo. And then it was released. Lair I sort of knew it wasn't gonna be fun I just think it was gonna be that bad.

Resistance, NG2, and ME... if they are mentioned then so should Heavenly Sword and Shadowrun, they only barely missed the mark. In honesty none of these games should be mentioned. Or TP.

I can see why some would vote TP though. The day it happened was just unlike any other day on SW.

waynehead895
Heavenly Sword was hyped AA wasn't it?I don't even remember if Shadowrun was hyped,but I'll add it just because I need two more for another row.
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#129 lolag
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ill pitch in over 9000! votes for the Wii drummer dude.


My vote goes to Liar.
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#130 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]

Killzone. I remember thinking that it could possibly be better than Halo. And then it was released. Lair I sort of knew it wasn't gonna be fun I just think it was gonna be that bad.

Resistance, NG2, and ME... if they are mentioned then so should Heavenly Sword and Shadowrun, they only barely missed the mark. In honesty none of these games should be mentioned. Or TP.

I can see why some would vote TP though. The day it happened was just unlike any other day on SW.

killab2oo5

Heavenly Sword was hyped AA wasn't it?I don't even remember if Shadowrun was hyped,but I'll add it just because I need two more for another row.

HS was hyped AAA

I would say R&C was a big flop too as it caused a storm.

Biggest flops to choose from I'd say a decent list would be:

Doom 3, Brute Force, Killzone, Lair, Haze, Red Steel, TP (becuase of reaction).

There are plenty of flops but I reckon those are the big ones.

(How has Brute force got no votes?)

EDIT don't remember if anyone actually hyped shadowrun, but i do remember it got a TON of hate from those who'd played the paper game/read the books.

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#131 Mau-Justice
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How can you even put NG2 in there with games like Haze and Lair. NG was high end AA. It may have flopped to fanboys, but it didn't even flop it's still a great game. Unlike Haze and Lair, which are just brutal.
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#132 killab2oo5
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How can you even put NG2 in there with games like Haze and Lair. NG was high end AA. It may have flopped to fanboys, but it didn't even flop it's still a great game. Unlike Haze and Lair, which are just brutal.Mau-Justice
Because some people may think it's the biggest flop. Mass effect has what...2 votes?Do you see how many people have said "Why is ME up there???". Because different people have different opinions. A lot of those are great games,but a flop is a flop.
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#133 dissonantblack
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lair and then red steel
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#134 FinalGeneration
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If you are talking about this generation, then it is Lair. If you are talking about gaming history, then that title is reserved for the dreamcast. Shame too :(
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#135 rockguy92
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Lair.

Bioshockownz actually called Lair and Haze the 3rd and 4th most overrated games for this gen.

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#136 sakura_Ex
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I'll say it again... where is Blue Dragon?
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#137 killab2oo5
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I'll say it again... where is Blue Dragon?sakura_Ex
Did you look?
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#138 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]I'll say it again... where is Blue Dragon?killab2oo5
Did you look?

Ok I see it now,my bad.

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I'll say it again... where is Blue Dragon?sakura_Ex
How can a game which got AA hype (and even then most Lems will tell you they don't care about JRPG's) and a got 6.5 if i remember rightly, compare to games hyped AAA that could only register a 4.5.

You can tell by the lack of interest in it, including cows saying it was a major flop, that no one really cared then and no one really cares now.

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#140 I_Helios_I
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Wow by a landslide who knew.....lol
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#141 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]I'll say it again... where is Blue Dragon?blue_hazy_basic

How can a game which got AA hype (and even then most Lems will tell you they don't care about JRPG's) and a got 6.5 if i remember rightly, compare to games hyped AAA that could only register a 4.5.

You can tell by the lack of interest in it, including cows saying it was a major flop, that no one really cared then and no one really cares now.

I guess you weren't around for all the BD----------->FF threads.

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#142 JPOBS
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the true list of biggest flops ever in Systemwars history.

1) Zelda TP: hyped as the best game ever. period. When it got 8.8, the sheep literally sent death threats to the reviewer.

2) Killzone: halo killer. failed

3) Blinx the Time sweeper: hyped as mario killer. Failed.

4) Fable: hyped as best rog ever. failed.

5) Doom 3: hyped as best shooter ever, failed, and the hermit faction had to leave systemwars due to a ban bet.

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#143 MojondeVACA
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Killzone sucks more than lair, disgusting gameplay,ugly graphics,horrible controls,full of bugs,horrible framerate, boring story,and i could go on..
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#144 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]I'll say it again... where is Blue Dragon?sakura_Ex

How can a game which got AA hype (and even then most Lems will tell you they don't care about JRPG's) and a got 6.5 if i remember rightly, compare to games hyped AAA that could only register a 4.5.

You can tell by the lack of interest in it, including cows saying it was a major flop, that no one really cared then and no one really cares now.

I guess you weren't around for all the BD----------->FF threads.

I've been around longer than most posters my friend, and I don't need to hide my profile to prove it. BD received pretty minimal hype on the board. Anyone can create a thread. (For example i can create a thread saying HAZE>HALO can i then say that cows say Haze is greater than halo?) If it was such a big deal as you claim where was the fuss when BD flopped? It was almost non-existant.
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#145 angelkimne
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Sorry, Mass Effect and Resistance were not flops...
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#146 killab2oo5
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Sorry, Mass Effect and Resistance were not flops...angelkimne
Mass Effect was hyped AAA and GOTY by many. Resistance was hyped AAA and a Gears of War killer. Technically yes,both are flops.
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#147 beast667
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Lair score-wise, but LoZ:TP had a much worse fallout afterwards. Friggin' Jeff almost made teh internetz asplode with that review.
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#148 wiistation360
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i was going to say killzone but i think lair wins here
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#149 thegoldenpoo
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lair, some hardcore cows are still waiting under a rock somewhere for that to blow over.