By Next Gen Even 360 Fans will Have Seen MS for What They Really Are.

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#1 genaroll
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I agree with the blind cow destroy microsoft gather up the cow bells its lemming hunting time.
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#3 jasonharris48
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too long, didn't read

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You're sig was too distracting.

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#7 hyperjayson
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

too long, didn't read

jasonharris48

You're sig was too distracting.

3242347238th post of the day regarding my sig lol

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#8 Duckyindiana
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Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.
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#10 davidkamayor
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Suits in an industry for creative minds. All these companis needs to run a good business, make profit, survive, prosper. There is however a difference between being simply a suit, and being a business that balances creativity and vision with it's business plans. The gaming industry doesn't need Microsoft's and Activisions, it needs Sony's, Nintendo's, Valve's, Blizzard's and so on, companies that know how to take your money and still make you feel like they deserve it, give you your money's worth, not nickle and dime you and throw you into situation where you either give up your moral ideal or miss out on important aspects of gaming this generation.

Just like what happened in the PC gaming world, evenutally everyone caught on to MS's shady way of doing business, and everyone started to hate them, I firmly believe by next gen a HUGE part of 360 fans will follow the same route.

What do you guys think? You like the way MS does things? Already hate them? Agree? Disagree?

NubTub_of_Win

I agree with the cow here

Microsoft may have a nice console, but they exist just to profit and milk the consumer, but sony isn't that type I mean they make some brilliant games, but they'll milk you all the same. And Blizz once cared about games, but now there some sort of half Kotic Abomination

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#11 Chrome-
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doubt it.
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#12 ohthemanatee
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Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.Duckyindiana
that´s impossible everyone knows sony makes games out of the kindness in their hearts

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#13 hyperjayson
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[QUOTE="hyperjayson"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] You're sig was too distracting.

NubTub_of_Win

3242347238th post of the day regarding my sig lol

Jailbait imo... :?

shes 20 years old, DURRRR

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#14 Casboof
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Can't tell if troll or stupid cow?

NubTub_of_Win

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No its just you bash MS every chance you get. I don't mind people defending something they like but I hate when others attack something they dislike because they are ignorant and know nothing about it.

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#15 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.ohthemanatee

that´s impossible everyone knows sony makes games out of the kindness in their hearts

yep I didn't actually pay for my ps3, or the games I do own...or the blurays I've purchased, Sony sent them to me as a free gift...
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#18 Gundamforce
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Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.Duckyindiana

This post pretty much sums it up. The fanboy bias and double standards never cease to amaze me.

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#19 genaroll
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.ohthemanatee

that´s impossible everyone knows sony makes games out of the kindness in their hearts

I know right during the cutscene of a ps3 game i saw kevin butler holding a kitten.Sony sure is nice.
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#21 johnlennon28
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ms is ruining gaming
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#22 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.ohthemanatee

that´s impossible everyone knows sony makes games out of the kindness in their hearts

Sorry i forgot they care about my happyness more than money silly me:P And that MS are EVIL:twisted:

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#23 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] that´s impossible everyone knows sony makes games out of the kindness in their hearts

NubTub_of_Win

yep I didn't actually pay for my ps3, or the games I do own...or the blurays I've purchased, Sony sent them to me as a free gift...

:lol: wow ya that's the arguement. :lol:

Infact just today I wanted a game, so I called up Kaz Harai and said hey man hook me up, and they used the sony teleportation system and I had a copy of heavy rain waiting for me when I got home.

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#25 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="Casboof"]

Can't tell if troll or stupid cow?

NubTub_of_Win

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Probably your 2nd alt. This being your first.

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#26 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]] yep I didn't actually pay for my ps3, or the games I do own...or the blurays I've purchased, Sony sent them to me as a free gift...WilliamRLBaker

:lol: wow ya that's the arguement. :lol:

Infact just today I wanted a game, so I called up Kaz Harai and said hey man hook me up, and they used the sony teleportation system and I had a copy of heavy rain waiting for me when I got home.

they wanted money for my copy...but they sent it to unicef so they can feed puppies.... puppies with diseases.

THAT's how good sony is

damn that evil knevil microsoft:evil:

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#27 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="johnlennon28"]ms is ruining gamingNubTub_of_Win
They pretty much single handidly started the DLC craze this gen, all started with Live fee and grew from there. Imho they are in a very big way the creators of Activion, you can tell Kotick is heavily inspired by MS.

system wars fact#705 there never existed before microsoft on consoles exntended content for purchase for games..never...infact you could never buy a game online or other methods via download before microsoft and the console buisness. *atari 2600 had downloadable games, sega had em for the genesis. you could buy extended content in the store for pc games...ect*
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#28 Casboof
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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="Casboof"]

Can't tell if troll or stupid cow?

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Probably your 2nd alt. This being your first.

What? I am no alt.

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#30 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.Gundamforce

This post pretty much sums it up. The fanboy bias and double standards never cease to amaze me.

I think MS screws gamers over more than Sony, but I guess that's just me.
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#31 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="johnlennon28"]ms is ruining gamingWilliamRLBaker
They pretty much single handidly started the DLC craze this gen, all started with Live fee and grew from there. Imho they are in a very big way the creators of Activion, you can tell Kotick is heavily inspired by MS.

system wars fact#705 there never existed before microsoft on consoles exntended content for purchase for games..never...infact you could never buy a game online or other methods via download before microsoft and the console buisness. *atari 2600 had downloadable games, sega had em for the genesis. you could buy extended content in the store for pc games...ect*

and let's not forget that the dreamcast already had DLC. hell, some of the DLC that sega net was selling was already on the game disc itself
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#32 jasonharris48
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ms is ruining gamingjohnlennon28
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#34 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"] They pretty much single handidly started the DLC craze this gen, all started with Live fee and grew from there. Imho they are in a very big way the creators of Activion, you can tell Kotick is heavily inspired by MS.

system wars fact#705 there never existed before microsoft on consoles exntended content for purchase for games..never...infact you could never buy a game online or other methods via download before microsoft and the console buisness. *atari 2600 had downloadable games, sega had em for the genesis. you could buy extended content in the store for pc games...ect*

Downloadable games are good. DLC and Live fees are bad.

hm 20 million people or 20 million downloads for mw2 map packs disagree with you.
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] system wars fact#705 there never existed before microsoft on consoles exntended content for purchase for games..never...infact you could never buy a game online or other methods via download before microsoft and the console buisness. *atari 2600 had downloadable games, sega had em for the genesis. you could buy extended content in the store for pc games...ect*NubTub_of_Win
and let's not forget that the dreamcast already had DLC. hell, some of the DLC that sega net was selling was already on the game disc itself

Kind of like killswitch had cover but gears gets most of the credit because it made it popular right? Ohhh burn. That's my point. MS made it widespread, they proved how easy it was to take our money.

kind of like killswitch has lame cover, was ineffective and it was just as easy to just run around never in cover or just hide behind a few objects to reload...where as cover is essential in gears of war, and its near impossible even on easy difficulty to get through the entire game without using cover alot.

and wait...Microsoft game studios made gears of war? no they just published it.

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#36 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="Gundamforce"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Wow is almost all i can say, for a person that claims to be a gamer you love bashing MS. They care as much as the rest at the end of the day all they want is your money.RogueShodown

This post pretty much sums it up. The fanboy bias and double standards never cease to amaze me.

I think MS screws gamers over more than Sony, but I guess that's just me.

The thing is they don't, they all do it just in different ways. Hell it was not that long ago Sony wanted us to all rush out and buy HDTV's now they want us all to buy 3dtv's. Yeah you don't have to get one but you don't have to pay for live or pay for extra content. At the end of the day they are here to take your money thats it!!
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#37 genaroll
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[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] system wars fact#705 there never existed before microsoft on consoles exntended content for purchase for games..never...infact you could never buy a game online or other methods via download before microsoft and the console buisness. *atari 2600 had downloadable games, sega had em for the genesis. you could buy extended content in the store for pc games...ect*

and let's not forget that the dreamcast already had DLC. hell, some of the DLC that sega net was selling was already on the game disc itself

Kind of like killswitch had cover but gears gets most of the credit because it made it popular right? Ohhh burn. That's my point. MS made it widespread, they proved how easy it was to take our money.

Hope you know we were getting ripped off even before microsoft came.
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#38 ohthemanatee
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Kind of like killswitch had cover but gears gets most of the credit because it made it popular right?

Ohhh burn.

That's my point. MS made it widespread, they proved how easy it was to take our money. NubTub_of_Win

Oh I see, so it's Sega isn't to blame because Sega isn't Microsoft.

got it

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#39 Keiji993
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[QUOTE="johnlennon28"]ms is ruining gamingjasonharris48

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M$ makes companies charge for DLCs, makes you buy their products, paying to play online when people already have to pay for internet monthly, etc.

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#40 PAL360
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ms is ruining gamingjohnlennon28

It´s more like MS ruining Sony.

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#41 Bus-A-Bus
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Yes...ok...you can make those threads when millions of people play Reach 24/7 enjoying the MS console ;)

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#44 ohthemanatee
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Lol you just sort of owned yourself because that's exactly my point. MS did it better too... lol.NubTub_of_Win

Yes, Microsoft did it better by giving us free DLC last gen.

As far as I remember it was the third party companies that decided to charge for DLC

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#45 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="johnlennon28"]ms is ruining gamingKeiji993

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M$ makes companies charge for DLCs, makes you buy their products, paying to play online when people already have to pay for internet monthly, etc.

So in that case Sony MAKE you pay for DLC as well its not all free on PSN you know.
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#46 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="NubTub_of_Win"]

Kind of like killswitch had cover but gears gets most of the credit because it made it popular right?

Ohhh burn.

That's my point. MS made it widespread, they proved how easy it was to take our money. NubTub_of_Win

Oh I see, so it's Sega isn't to blame because Sega isn't Microsoft.

got it

Sega? What does Sega have to do with any of this? If your going to tell me that they charged for DLC last gen or soemthing, noone even knows about that... MS made it an every game thing.

oh, so it's all about perception then? :lol:

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#47 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="johnlennon28"]ms is ruining gamingKeiji993

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M$ makes companies charge for DLCs, makes you buy their products, paying to play online when people already have to pay for internet monthly, etc.

MS charges consumers if the developer refuses to pay, it costs money to host, test, and make sure all DLC works and is constantly up. if a developer says hey we want the consumer to have it for free heres a check for how much it cost to host, test and all that...=consumers get it for free. Microsoft MAKES you buy their products? really? you mean I some how have this urge to buy microsoft products and none other? or just not buy the product at all? hmm I did not know that.
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#48 Keiji993
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] ?

Duckyindiana

M$ makes companies charge for DLCs, makes you buy their products, paying to play online when people already have to pay for internet monthly, etc.

So in that case Sony MAKE you pay for DLC as well its not all free on PSN you know.

The point is that microsoft MAKES the companies charge for DLC so M$ can make extra money.

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#49 AlphaJC
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ummm so when Sony was charging me extra for hard drives, multitaps, and memory cards last gen that was ok?
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#50 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="Gundamforce"]

This post pretty much sums it up. The fanboy bias and double standards never cease to amaze me.

Duckyindiana

I think MS screws gamers over more than Sony, but I guess that's just me.

The thing is they don't, they all do it just in different ways. Hell it was not that long ago Sony wanted us to all rush out and buy HDTV's now they want us all to buy 3dtv's. Yeah you don't have to get one but you don't have to pay for live or pay for extra content. At the end of the day they are here to take your money thats it!!

When you're buying a 3DTV, you're just adding to the experience; when you choose to stick to your HDTV, you're still getting the full game. When you choose not to pay for XBL Gold, you only get part of the game(unless it's single player only)-- maybe even the smaller part depending on how much value is assigned to the multi-player. Games like COD4 would be useless to me without online multi-player.