By SW standards, 360 only has two AAA exclusives...

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

too bad we don't go by SW standards, whatever that is , we go by gamespot reviews, so your thread is uselesscwalters

HAHAAHAH thats the funniest thing ive herd all day

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]grawREVOLUTIONfreak

*sigh*

If it's any consolation, I can see where you're coming from. Note that the 360 version of GRAW scored a 9.2 while the PC version scored a 7.8.

i'm not talking about the score difference. it's the game itself. but yeah, that does lend a bit of credibility towards them being different.

[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]grawCaseyWegner

*sigh*

If it's any consolation, I can see where you're coming from. Note that the 360 version of GRAW scored a 9.2 while the PC version scored a 7.8.

i'm not talking about the score difference. it's the game itself. but yeah, that does lend a bit of credibility towards them being different.

[QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]grawCaseyWegner

*sigh*

If it's any consolation, I can see where you're coming from. Note that the 360 version of GRAW scored a 9.2 while the PC version scored a 7.8.

i'm not talking about the score difference. it's the game itself. but yeah, that does lend a bit of credibility towards them being different.

so why isnt NGS a exclusive... jw because by ur standerds it should be because the game its self is vary differant from the xbox game

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]GRAW is on PS2 also. No, it's not a Xbox360 exclusive.IbukiNinja

Well, the mods have spoken, I guess it's not...oh wait. The game is different on the 360, it's an AAA exclusive, despite what Shungo here thinks.

First of all, I'm not Shungo. Secondly, mods are enforcers not law makers. Logically, I see that GRAW is on the PS2, PC, Xbox360. Defintion states that it's not an exclusive.

Funny how your "logic" doesnt work as far as NG is concerned ... NG, NG: B are on Xbox, NG: S is on the PS3, oh i see what your doing, exclusivity is determined by the name of the game now, not the content:roll:

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="FinalEvil"]Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't GRAW on the PC also?trix5817

yup

it's not the same game. only the name is the same.

if what you say is true, than NGS is a PS3 exclusive. Which it's not.

No, I don't think you understand. They are nothing alike. Sigma was just a remake, GRAW PC is a totally different game made by different devs with a different engine. The only thing they share in common is the name and the storyline.

wouldn't that make GRAW a remake as well because both use the same storyline...i mean if a game copies the same storyline, that pretty much the biggest copy you can make...i consider it a remake

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]grawmattyomo99

*sigh*

If it's any consolation, I can see where you're coming from. Note that the 360 version of GRAW scored a 9.2 while the PC version scored a 7.8.

i'm not talking about the score difference. it's the game itself. but yeah, that does lend a bit of credibility towards them being different.

so why isnt NGS a exclusive... jw because by ur standerds it should be because the game its self is vary differant from the xbox game

Ninja Gaiden Sigma is still the same core game found on Xbox, but with enhancements such as improved graphics and extra content. Significant enhancements, yes.. but still the same core game as before. There's a reason the game is called Ninja Gaiden Sigma, as opposed to Ninja Gaiden 2.

so why isnt NGS a exclusive... jw because by ur standerds it should be because the game its self is vary differant from the xbox game

mattyomo99

how very different is it? it's basically ninja gaiden with better graphics and some exclusive content.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]grawPdiddy105

And my faith in mankind takes yet ANOTHER hit...

[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

so why isnt NGS a exclusive... jw because by ur standerds it should be because the game its self is vary differant from the xbox game

CaseyWegner

how very different is it? it's basically ninja gaiden with better graphics and some exclusive content.

wait, theres a game called Ninja Gaiden Sigma on another platform?!?!?

i never knew this :o

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="FinalEvil"]Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't GRAW on the PC also?CaseyWegner

yup

it's not the same game. only the name is the same.

Honestly, all you Sony fanatics saying that Casey should consider Sigma a PS3 exclusive because he considers GRAW a 360 exclusive. It's both sad AND hilarious at the same time. Here's a list of the differences the 360 version of GRAW has from its PC counterpart;

1) Different dev

2) Different engine

3) Different viewpoint

4) Each and every level

5) Different sounds

6) Different HUD

etc.

The differences between Sigma and Black;

1) Sigma has a few extra levels

2) Sigma's graphics have an upgrade

That's about it.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

so why isnt NGS a exclusive... jw because by ur standerds it should be because the game its self is vary differant from the xbox game

Pdiddy105

how very different is it? it's basically ninja gaiden with better graphics and some exclusive content.

wait, theres a game called Ninja Gaiden Sigma on another platform?!?!?

i never knew this :o

Another cow that thinks a games name determines its exclusivity rather than the content of the game.

Imagine (hypothetically) back in the old days there was a game called Karate on the Spectrum 48k which was basically a side scrolling beat 'em up like Double Dragon, then on the C64 there was also a game called Karate but it was more like Street Fighter (the original), by your standards they'd be considered the same game?.

Content determines whether a game is unique/remake/port not the name.

I don't care about exclusives. If I can play __ many AAA games on the 360, regardless of them being exclusives or not, I'm happy. Who cares if other systems have it or not? I have it and that's all I care about. Judge the system by them all you want. I don't have a gaming PC and don't plan on getting one. I think alot of people are on the same boat. They have a PC for purposes other than gaming and it's cheaper, easier and faster to buy a $400 console over a PC that cost triple that.manningbowl135

If you already have a PC, then you can just get a 8800 GTS for $280 maybe spend another $70-$80 on 2GB memory and you are ready to play most of the games out today on med-high settings. Now you will be able to play all those 360/PC multi-plats and a lot of the PC AAAe and AAe games.....

i applaude you for not mentioning a new character, weapons, new testures and 1080p. good job. if i can play the same game on pc, 360, or wii, then its not exclusive. but i cant, so it is. p2rus

that falls under improved graphics and extra content.

[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

so why isnt NGS a exclusive... jw because by ur standerds it should be because the game its self is vary differant from the xbox game

Snugenz

how very different is it? it's basically ninja gaiden with better graphics and some exclusive content.

wait, theres a game called Ninja Gaiden Sigma on another platform?!?!?

i never knew this :o

Another cow that thinks a games name determines its exclusivity rather than the content of the game.

Imagine (hypothetically) back in the old days there was a game called Karate on the Spectrum 48k which was basically a side scrolling beat 'em up like Double Dragon, then on the C64 there was also a game called Karate but it was more like Street Fighter (the original), by your standards they'd be considered the same game?.

Content determines whether a game is unique/remake/port not the name.

the game is still PS3 exclsuive. if it were just a shiny port of the xbox version, lemmings, sheep, and hermits would have the right to say its not exclusive. Many posters here think of NGS as nothing but a port with a few new additions, but the game has more new additions than ever before. of course, most people here have yet to play the game which is why they assume its nothing but a port, but the people that have played it know how wrong the assumptions of the people of SW are.

so why isnt NGS a exclusive... jw because by ur standerds it should be because the game its self is vary differant from the xbox gamemattyomo99

Maybe if they let you play it in a first person veiw (and gave it to another team) it would be exclusive.

Also look at the scores, it got a 9, the ones on the X-Box got 9.4.

GRAW got 9.2(AAA)on the 360. 7.8 (A) on the PC, 5.9 on the X-Box, and 4.4 on the PS2. That kinda shows that they are pretty differnt.

the game is still PS3 exclsuive. if it were just a shiny port of the xbox version, lemmings, sheep, and hermits would have the right to say its not exclusive. Many posters here think of NGS as nothing but a port with a few new additions, but the game has more new additions than ever before. of course, most people here have yet to play the game which is why they assume its nothing but a port, but the people that have played it know how wrong the assumptions of the people of SW are.

Pdiddy105

I have NGS aswell as NG, NGB and there's not enough extra content to completely seperate itself from the other two games.

The only missions i definately hadnt done before were the Rachel missions and we all know how tiny they were compared to the rest of the game (that can be played on the Xbox with NGB).

Its not exclusive, but it is awesome.

if what you say is true, than NGS is a PS3 exclusive. Which it's not.

HoldThePhone

Honestly, all you Sony fanatics saying that Casey should consider Sigma a PS3 exclusive because he considers GRAW a 360 exclusive. It's both sad AND hilarious at the same time. Here's a list of the differences the 360 version of GRAW has from its PC counterpart;

1) Different dev

2) Different engine

3) Different viewpoint

4) Each and every level

5) Different sounds

6) Different HUD

etc.

The differences between Sigma and Black;

1) Sigma has a few extra levels

2) Sigma's graphics have an upgrade

That's about it.

Verge_6

I'l pull all my quotes from the Gamespot reviews.

First the summary of the PC version.

"While the PC version of GRAW offers the most impressive and expansive campaign, the extreme system requirements and multiplayer headaches make this tactical shooter feel rougher around the edges than it should."

This would seem to imply that there are multiple versions of this game, which would make it multi-platform. It also explains the difference in the score, unless glitches are considered a core design of a game.

Now each of your points.

1) Not all developement teams are large enough to handle versions of a game for multiple systems. A similar argument could be made for NG:S, it wasn't the same core team that was behind NG or NGB.

2) New engine? Really? Is there any surprise that a game on completely different hardware would require a different engine to be made? NG:S has a different engine too, reworked to function on the PS3.

3) So shifting the POV 2 feet makes the game a completely different game? Is this the line? If the camera isn't in the exact same spot on multiplats, they are different games? So all these games that the POV shifts and changes are actually multiple games in one (ie. Gears of War now counts as 2 games)?

4) Ah, I get it. "It's the journey, not the destination." Here's GS's take on this.

"The story arc in the PC version of the game is the same as all the others, but the way the levels are laid out and structured is noticeably different than any of the other versions of GRAW."

The PS2 and Xbox reviews don't make a direct comparison to the actual mission order or objectives, instead, noting the expected graphical problems and shortness of each mission (to be expected, really). So where exactly is the line drawn? If one version has a michine gun nest where snipers are in another, does that make them completely different games? How about if one rock is out of place? This sounds like nit-picking. The story is the same, the main objectives are the same, does it really matter each little detail on how you get there? If so, there are quite a few games that have multiple paths and ways to get to each goal, should those be counted as multiple games?

5) Ummm....

"A lot of the voice acting in the game is pulled directly from the Xbox 360 version of the game, and some new lines and parts have been added as well, but the quality remains uniformly excellent all around."

I'm not really sure what you were trying to get at with this point...

6) I think you're nit-picking here too. I think it would be expected that not all the fancy PiP video and tricks from the 360 could be done on the PS2 or Xbox.

This is what NG:S offers, according to Tecmo:

• Superior graphics on PS3 Sigma version with enhanced colors and gameplay speed.
• Three brand new Chapters added to PS3 Sigma, totaling 18 Chapters.
• Rachel is playable character now including updated story line.
• 25 new Missions in Mission Mode for both Ryu and Rachel.
• New enemies and 3 new Boss characters, totaling 70, with retuned and enhanced AI.
• New weapons including dual-wield katanas, double swords, Ninja magic, and others.
• New combos and special action moves such as running and fighting on surface of water.
• New destructible environments and items.
• New innovative six-axis controller functionality to assist in fighting enemies.
• Upload Karma scores on Playstation Network to compare leader boards.
• Additional content made available later in 2007 to further enhance the Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3 experience.
• 5 difficulty levels, including access to easier "Ninja Dog" level at any Chapter during game allows for playability for all skill levels of gamers.

If you want to argue details, there's plenty in both games, Personally, I tend to consider both of these games multi-plats with some changes, improvements and glitches differentiating the different versions.

grawCaseyWegner

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Honestly, all you Sony fanatics saying that Casey should consider Sigma a PS3 exclusive because he considers GRAW a 360 exclusive. It's both sad AND hilarious at the same time. Here's a list of the differences the 360 version of GRAW has from its PC counterpart;

1) Different dev

2) Different engine

3) Different viewpoint

4) Each and every level

5) Different sounds

6) Different HUD

etc.

The differences between Sigma and Black;

1) Sigma has a few extra levels

2) Sigma's graphics have an upgrade

That's about it.

asylumni

I'l pull all my quotes from the Gamespot reviews.

First the summary of the PC version.

"While the PC version of GRAW offers the most impressive and expansive campaign, the extreme system requirements and multiplayer headaches make this tactical shooter feel rougher around the edges than it should."

This would seem to imply that there are multiple versions of this game, which would make it multi-platform. It also explains the difference in the score, unless glitches are considered a core design of a game.

Now each of your points.

1) Not all developement teams are large enough to handle versions of a game for multiple systems. A similar argument could be made for NG:S, it wasn't the same core team that was behind NG or NGB.

2) New engine? Really? Is there any surprise that a game on completely different hardware would require a different engine to be made? NG:S has a different engine too, reworked to function on the PS3.

3) So shifting the POV 2 feet makes the game a completely different game? Is this the line? If the camera isn't in the exact same spot on multiplats, they are different games? So all these games that the POV shifts and changes are actually multiple games in one (ie. Gears of War now counts as 2 games)?

4) Ah, I get it. "It's the journey, not the destination." Here's GS's take on this.

"The story arc in the PC version of the game is the same as all the others, but the way the levels are laid out and structured is noticeably different than any of the other versions of GRAW."

The PS2 and Xbox reviews don't make a direct comparison to the actual mission order or objectives, instead, noting the expected graphical problems and shortness of each mission (to be expected, really). So where exactly is the line drawn? If one version has a michine gun nest where snipers are in another, does that make them completely different games? How about if one rock is out of place? This sounds like nit-picking. The story is the same, the main objectives are the same, does it really matter each little detail on how you get there? If so, there are quite a few games that have multiple paths and ways to get to each goal, should those be counted as multiple games?

5) Ummm....

"A lot of the voice acting in the game is pulled directly from the Xbox 360 version of the game, and some new lines and parts have been added as well, but the quality remains uniformly excellent all around."

I'm not really sure what you were trying to get at with this point...

6) I think you're nit-picking here too. I think it would be expected that not all the fancy PiP video and tricks from the 360 could be done on the PS2 or Xbox.

This is what NG:S offers, according to Tecmo:

• Superior graphics on PS3 Sigma version with enhanced colors and gameplay speed.
• Three brand new Chapters added to PS3 Sigma, totaling 18 Chapters.
• Rachel is playable character now including updated story line.
• 25 new Missions in Mission Mode for both Ryu and Rachel.
• New enemies and 3 new Boss characters, totaling 70, with retuned and enhanced AI.
• New weapons including dual-wield katanas, double swords, Ninja magic, and others.
• New combos and special action moves such as running and fighting on surface of water.
• New destructible environments and items.
• New innovative six-axis controller functionality to assist in fighting enemies.
• Upload Karma scores on Playstation Network to compare leader boards.
• Additional content made available later in 2007 to further enhance the Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3 experience.
• 5 difficulty levels, including access to easier "Ninja Dog" level at any Chapter during game allows for playability for all skill levels of gamers.

If you want to argue details, there's plenty in both games, Personally, I tend to consider both of these games multi-plats with some changes, improvements and glitches differentiating the different versions.

owned 0_o

GRAW PC - FPS

GRAW 360 - TPS

So if their not considered different games than that must mean RE4's gameplay is just like Halo's.

GRAW PC - FPS

GRAW 360 - TPS

So if their not considered different games than that must mean RE4's gameplay is just like Halo's.

0starter0

MGS4 will be able to be played as a FPS or a TPS, does that mean it is 2 games in one? The two modes will play differently but it will still be the same game.

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="FinalEvil"]Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't GRAW on the PC also?Vyse_The_Daring

yup

it's not the same game. only the name is the same.

if what you say is true, than NGS is a PS3 exclusive. Which it's not.

No, because it plays the same as the xbox version, Graw does not.

Did the xbox version run at 60fps and have self shadowing and was displayed in 1080p? Did the xbox version have six axis where u shake the controller to make your nimpo attack alot stronger? Did the xbox version have the double katana swords? Did the xbox version have rachel as a playable character? Were u able to play the cut scenes in the xbox version or were they just cinematic cut scenes, because u now can fight the bosses in the cut scenes in ninja gaiden sigma but were u able to do that in the original? See where im getting at, this is not the same game aswell but more advanced and a tru next gen version of ninja gaiden sigma. So how is it that GRAW is a different game when it is also on the pc and other consoles aswell?

*bunch of text that pretty much confirms my statement*

asylumni

Did you even read the text quotes? They literally directly state that there are significant changes between the two?

1) Except, two ENTIRELY different dev teams made the two GRAW variants. Not merely the 'core' of the team, as you put it for Sigma

2) You don't understand. They don't even share the same color pallet, and even have a different physics engine.

3) Not only does the viewpoint make a difference, but it also affect the gameplay. PC GRAW's view allows for it to take the tactical approach it has, whilst the 360's view lets it go for the arcady approach.

4) ....Read the quote. Slowly. but the way the levels are laid out and structured is noticeably different than any of the other versions of GRAW." That CONFIRMS my statement.

5) I said 'sounds' not voices. The weapons and explosion sound effects are different between the two

6) This isn't about the last-gen variants, it's about the PC and 360 variants.

Honestly, there is no debate here. You can play Ninja Gaiden on the xbox. You can play it on the PS3 with some new weapons and the added Rachel segement, but it's essentially the same game. The 360 GRAW on the other hand, can only be played on the Xbox 360. It's not another version of the same game. It's not new content. It's not added extras; it's an entirely different game.

It runs on a different engine, has completely different gameplay mechanics, a different story, different DEVELOPERS, different missions, different everything.

And honestly; if you guys want to start saying that it simply having the same name makes it multi-platform, i guess we can scratch off Final Fantasy as an exclusive. I can play that game on my phone. Think that's stupid? Yeah me too, but it's the logic you guys seem to be in favour of.

Did the xbox version run at 60fps and have self shadowing and was displayed in 1080p? Did the xbox version have six axis where u shake the controller to make your nimpo attack alot stronger? Did the xbox version have the double katana swords? Did the xbox version have rachel as a playable character? Were u able to play the cut scenes in the xbox version or were they just cinematic cut scenes, because u now can fight the bosses in the cut scenes in ninja gaiden sigma but were u able to do that in the original? See where im getting at, this is not the same game aswell but more advanced and a tru next gen version of ninja gaiden sigma. So how is it that GRAW is a different game when it is also on the pc and other consoles aswell?

squallff8_fan

Dude, the game running at 1080p doesn't suddenly make it exclusive. :| It's the same game. I can play it on the xbox. Get over it. It has some added content like the rachael segment, but the bulk of the game is essentially the same ninja gaiden we've already played. When you get a whole new game, like GRAW, argue that it's exclusive. NG was on the xbox years ago however, regardless of the fact that you can now play the same game with two swords in 1080p.

In regard to your question, i dont know how many times this needs to be said but:

Ninja Gaiden Sigma = ninja gaiden we all played years ago with some improvements; the "more advanced version" as you put it.

GRAW on the 360 = ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GAME. The only similarity to the PC version is the name; THAT'S IT. Gameplay wise they are two different games completely.

If you want to argue details, there's plenty in both games, Personally, I tend to consider both of these games multi-plats with some changes, improvements and glitches differentiating the different versions.

asylumni

That quote alone is proof you dont know what you're talking about. How is the 360 version of GRAW a multi-plat with some changes? What changes? What has been changed?

THE ENTIRE GAME? Are you seriously going to say they're the same game except for the development team... the engine it runs on... the physics engine.... all of the music and sound.... the storyline.... the gameplay mechanics... the realism... the missions you actually play through... the environments... the ai....

Give me a break. THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT GAMES. Not one game with differences between two versions - TWO GAMES.

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

ghettocheeze

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

[QUOTE="ghettocheeze"]

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

ilovesandrine

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

Until then, they're exclusive. ;)

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]GRAW is on PS2 also. No, it's not a Xbox360 exclusive.Vyse_The_Daring

Well, the mods have spoken, I guess it's not...oh wait. The game is different on the 360, it's an AAA exclusive, despite what Shungo here thinks.

So what if the mods have spoken? You make it seem as if they were gods or something. :?

[QUOTE="ghettocheeze"]

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

ilovesandrine

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

Huh, funny, as there are NO announcements of said games doing that. Can I go ahead and claim MGS4 to be ported to the 360?

[QUOTE="ilovesandrine"][QUOTE="ghettocheeze"]

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

Verge_6

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

Huh, funny, as there are NO announcements of said games doing that. Can I go ahead and claim MGS4 to be ported to the 360?

But they most likely will. And you can claim MGS4 being ported, but you'll sound like a moron.

Halo 1=pc halo 2 = pc ok so halo 3will go on pc some day like in 4 years or 2 maybilovesandrine

So, if we can consider a game that MIGHT be ported to the PC in about 3 years or so a multpplat, can we not start counting games like Dead Rising 2, MGS5, etc. as exclusives for their respective consoles?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ilovesandrine"][QUOTE="ghettocheeze"]

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

Harden_hawk

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

Huh, funny, as there are NO announcements of said games doing that. Can I go ahead and claim MGS4 to be ported to the 360?

But they most likely will. And you can claim MGS4 being ported, but you'll sound like a moron.

Why? If someone can make claims that games will be ported with NO official whatsoever being made about said act, why can't I do the same with MGS4?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ilovesandrine"][QUOTE="ghettocheeze"]

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

Harden_hawk

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

Huh, funny, as there are NO announcements of said games doing that. Can I go ahead and claim MGS4 to be ported to the 360?

But they most likely will. And you can claim MGS4 being ported, but you'll sound like a moron.

MGS2:S, MGS:TS were on other consoles so him saying MGS could be ported is no more moronic than someone saying Halo 3 or ME could be ported.

:roll:

[QUOTE="Harden_hawk"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="ilovesandrine"][QUOTE="ghettocheeze"]

SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

Verge_6

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

Huh, funny, as there are NO announcements of said games doing that. Can I go ahead and claim MGS4 to be ported to the 360?

But they most likely will. And you can claim MGS4 being ported, but you'll sound like a moron.

Why? If someone can make claims that games will be ported with NO official whatsoever being made about said act, why can't I do the same with MGS4?

Because Kojima said himself that. "Metal Gear Solid 4, will be coming to the PS3 exclusively."

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SW RULES:AAA TITLES ONLY

Halo 3 - Exclusive

Mass Effect - Exclusive

Bioshock - PC

Assassin Creed - PS3

Grand Theft Auto IV - PS3 and PC (future)

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - PS3 and PC

Rock Band - PS3

Not many as EXCLUSIVES as Microsoft would have you believed especially stuff that is suppose to be AAA.

Harden_hawk

Halo 3 will go on the pc some day and so will mass effect .

Huh, funny, as there are NO announcements of said games doing that. Can I go ahead and claim MGS4 to be ported to the 360?

But they most likely will. And you can claim MGS4 being ported, but you'll sound like a moron.

Why? If someone can make claims that games will be ported with NO official whatsoever being made about said act, why can't I do the same with MGS4?

Because Kojima said himself that. "Metal Gear Solid 4, will be coming to the PS3 exclusively."

Old,butstillrelevent:http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706251p1.html

"Microsoft saved the big shot for last and just announced Halo 3 exclusively for the Xbox 360..."

Youlose.

MGS2:S, MGS:TS were on other consoles so him saying MGS could be ported is no more moronic than someone saying Halo 3 or ME could be ported.

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Kojima said it's exclusive.

Harden_hawk

MGS2:S, MGS:TS were on other consoles so him saying MGS could be ported is no more moronic than someone saying Halo 3 or ME could be ported.

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Kojima said it's exclusive.

And Microsoft said Halo 3 was exclusive to the 360. Your point?

U guys make no damn sense, so your saying that its the same game with the orginal when it aint. How the hell is it the same game if there are weapons, levels, characters, playable cutscenes, new bosses and enemies, that u never played in the original? How the hell u gonna sit here and say that is the same exact game when none of this is even in the damn original? Make some damn sense man. U guys make no damn sense man. All I keep hearing is your ass saying that u already played it on my xbox when u really didnt. The game is not named Ninja Gaiden Sigma for nuttin. Its a different game with more added content to it that makes it the complete game. The package u played was the unfinished package. So right there alone says it is not the same game u played on the xbox, Ninja Gaiden Sigma takes u more into the story telling it from rachels side aswell and new levels ppl that played the old version have never played before, so how in the hell u gonna tell me its the same game if u dont even know how the new added levels are? Man come back see me when u can make sense because u guys seem to make it as if ninja gaiden sigma is the same exact game as the original when it really aint.squallff8_fan

Paragraph's are your friend, they're also very nice for people who actually try to read your rants.

I've played all 3 NG games, i'm on Chapter 14 of NGS at the moment, and there's no denying its a new take on the game, but all the extra's dont make the game as different as you think it is. Rachel missions are miniscule in comparison to the rest of the game, the few cutscenes that you get to play out in Sigma (e.gGoku in chapter 1) add a few more minutes play time at the most.

The new weapons dont make a whole lot of impact as there's really only a few new weapons, not "OMG completely new inventory".

Graphics dont make it exclusive either, sure they spruced up alot of area's, but they also left some alone and the spruce up was just texture replacements not an entirely new graphics engine.

The simple truth is, the extra content at most qualifies as an small expansion pack, i'd say 85 - 90% of the content is what i played in NGB, which isnt a bad thing in any way as the game is awesome and NGS is the definitive version (i bought every version afterall so you know i love the game).