By the time 8GB DDR5 RAM actually means something the PS4 will be a gen behind

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

The average Joe who are gaming on PC and are'nt sitting here and bragging of how great PC gaming is at 8000x8000 res with 80xAA, is probably using a PC or laptop with those kind of specs or worse, which means PC gaming will probably get lower gamesales when the PS4 arrives and multiplats gets more demanding.

Bebi_vegeta

Yes PC will stop evolving from now on.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I don't have it yet. Not until I finish playing Crysis 3 with No HUD. Besides, TressFX is optional, not mandatory. Not having TressFX on will not affect my enjoyment of a game. If TressFX is required to play Tomb Raider, then you have a point.

tormentos

I havent upgraded anything my pc in nearly two years all I would need to do is spend $300 then I will be kicking the PS4 in balls. believe it or not a gtx 560ti is on par with a 7850.

thats still cheaper then buying another $400+ console

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] On my 560 tomb raider with tressfx runs fine in most cases until you start fighting waves of those crazy cult people. But really tressfx in many ways is not even realistic and hair reacts way to dramatically with very little action done to move the hair. There's clipping issues with the hair, and seems very unnatural the way the hair reacts in general. So its not a big loss with not having tressfx on. And when Nvidia and the dev patch the issues you will see major improvements.

04dcarraher

I havent upgraded anything my pc in nearly two years all I would need to do is spend $300 then I will be kicking the PS4 in balls. believe it or not a gtx 560ti is on par with a 7850.

thats still cheaper then buying another $400+ console

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Developers have stated many times that you can never have enough ram,don't pay attention to some Hermits they are just sour grapes about the PS4 scenario,and since most of them have 560TI and integrated intel graphics they get mad..:lol:tormentos

What's wrong with the GTX 560 Ti? It plays at 1080p just fine.

What's so sourgrapes about my question? Why the reference to the 560 Ti. You're making it sound like it's a crippling handicap or something. 

Edit:

If you think that way, then you might want to consider that the only comparison that can be made right now to the 560 Ti is the current-gen consoles. You don't have a PS4. I don't have a PS4.

[QUOTE="crippledmachine"]

I do believe that PS4 memory is a single pool of storage for everything, including the OS and other processes. I can see why it's so big.

Wasdie

Exactly. Remeber, the PS4 is also doing in-game video recording on a dedicated video encoding chip (to save CPU), so that will suck up a good chunk of that 8 gigs of RAM. 

I imagine that most games will have like 4-5 gigs allocated to them. This is more than enough really. Even Planetside 2 runs with 3ish gigs of RAM total (about 2 gigs for system ram, 1 gig for vRAM).

No your 580 gtx cannot run any game at 1080p and 60 fps along with the highest settings.

Your the one butthurt since you have to live with the POS PS3

I havent upgraded anything my pc in nearly two years all I would need to do is spend $300 then I will be kicking the PS4 in balls. believe it or not a gtx 560ti is on par with a 7850.

thats still cheaper then buying another $400+ console

04dcarraher

What's so sourgrapes about my question? Why the reference to the 560 Ti. You're making it sound like it's a crippling handicap or something. 

Edit:

If you think that way, then you might want to consider that the only comparison that can be made right now to the 560 Ti is the current-gen consoles. You don't have a PS4. I don't have a PS4.

jun_aka_pekto

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]What's so sourgrapes about my question? Why the reference to the 560 Ti. You're making it sound like it's a crippling handicap or something. 

Edit:

If you think that way, then you might want to consider that the only comparison that can be made right now to the 560 Ti is the current-gen consoles. You don't have a PS4. I don't have a PS4.

tormentos

I'll stay from the damage control part since I'm quite sure the PS4 has a stronger GPU than the one in my PC. I'm not sure about the PS4's CPU yet. But, I am intrigued with the thought of all 8 cores working hard even at a lower clock speed. That one I'm keeping a close eye on.

You have to remember though that participation in Steam's Hardware Survey is completely optional. I've never participated in it ever and I'm sure there are many PC gamers like me who have no interest in such things. I keep Steam online just long enough to buy a game or get an update and then it's back offline. The Steam Hardware Survey is a good measurement for those who participated. But, we don't really know how accurate it is.

That's like here in Gamespot. I know quite a few flight simmers and they all have very godly PCs. But, you'll never see them here (at GS) because they don't consider the genre as "gaming." To them, it's a serious "hobby." I shake my head at that thought. I just go along with them rather than argue semantics. But, you get the idea. I believe the Steam Hardware Survey may not be representing some segments accurately.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

The average Joe who are gaming on PC and are'nt sitting here and bragging of how great PC gaming is at 8000x8000 res with 80xAA, is probably using a PC or laptop with those kind of specs or worse, which means PC gaming will probably get lower gamesales when the PS4 arrives and multiplats gets more demanding.

Martin_G_N

Yes PC will stop evolving from now on.

So this is the crystal ball predictions wars again ?

I'll stay from the damage control part since I'm quite sure the PS4 has a stronger GPU than the one in my PC. I'm not sure about the PS4's CPU yet. But, I am intrigued with the thought of all 8 cores working hard even at a lower clock speed. That one I'm keeping a close eye on.

You have to remember though that participation in Steam's Hardware Survey is completely optional. I've never participated in it ever and I'm sure there are many PC gamers like me who have no interest in such things. I keep Steam online just long enough to buy a game or get an update and then it's back offline. The Steam Hardware Survey is a good measurement for those who participated. But, we don't really know how accurate it is.

That's like here in Gamespot. I know quite a few flight simmers and they all have very godly PCs. But, you'll never see them here (at GS) because they don't consider the genre as "gaming." To them, it's a serious "hobby." I shake my head at that thought. I just go along with them rather than argue semantics. But, you get the idea. I believe the Steam Hardware Survey may not be representing some segments accurately.

   

jun_aka_pekto

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Your the one butthurt since you have to live with the POS PS3

I havent upgraded anything my pc in nearly two years all I would need to do is spend $300 then I will be kicking the PS4 in balls. believe it or not a gtx 560ti is on par with a 7850.

thats still cheaper then buying another $400+ console

tormentos

your such a fool about hardware. I got my card on sale for $180 and can play current games near max or maxed with 2x the resolution of the current consoles. Go cry some more

you have no idea.....  5% difference thats on par..... and the fact the card is only on average is 15% slower then 7870 is funny since the PS4 gpu is slower then a 7870.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]What's so sourgrapes about my question? Why the reference to the 560 Ti. You're making it sound like it's a crippling handicap or something. 

Edit:

If you think that way, then you might want to consider that the only comparison that can be made right now to the 560 Ti is the current-gen consoles. You don't have a PS4. I don't have a PS4.

jun_aka_pekto

I'll stay from the damage control part since I'm quite sure the PS4 has a stronger GPU than the one in my PC. I'm not sure about the PS4's CPU yet. But, I am intrigued with the thought of all 8 cores working hard even at a lower clock speed. That one I'm keeping a close eye on.

You have to remember though that participation in Steam's Hardware Survey is completely optional. I've never participated in it ever and I'm sure there are many PC gamers like me who have no interest in such things. I keep Steam online just long enough to buy a game or get an update and then it's back offline. The Steam Hardware Survey is a good measurement for those who participated. But, we don't really know how accurate it is.

That's like here in Gamespot. I know quite a few flight simmers and they all have very godly PCs. But, you'll never see them here (at GS) because they don't consider the genre as "gaming." To them, it's a serious "hobby." I shake my head at that thought. I just go along with them rather than argue semantics. But, you get the idea. I believe the Steam Hardware Survey may not be representing some segments accurately.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Is not that is cripple is actually a good GPU. But most people by steam stats have 560Ti,550Ti and integrated graphics,since the arguments here and in many other places is that PC are so powerful and that the PS4 is under power,is just basically silly that most gamers on Steam actually have hardware under power vs the PS4. People like 04dcarraher are the biggest joke such a strong damage control and all is because his PC us under power vs the PS4.JamDev

I'll stay from the damage control part since I'm quite sure the PS4 has a stronger GPU than the one in my PC. I'm not sure about the PS4's CPU yet. But, I am intrigued with the thought of all 8 cores working hard even at a lower clock speed. That one I'm keeping a close eye on.

You have to remember though that participation in Steam's Hardware Survey is completely optional. I've never participated in it ever and I'm sure there are many PC gamers like me who have no interest in such things. I keep Steam online just long enough to buy a game or get an update and then it's back offline. The Steam Hardware Survey is a good measurement for those who participated. But, we don't really know how accurate it is.

That's like here in Gamespot. I know quite a few flight simmers and they all have very godly PCs. But, you'll never see them here (at GS) because they don't consider the genre as "gaming." To them, it's a serious "hobby." I shake my head at that thought. I just go along with them rather than argue semantics. But, you get the idea. I believe the Steam Hardware Survey may not be representing some segments accurately.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Is not that is cripple is actually a good GPU. But most people by steam stats have 560Ti,550Ti and integrated graphics,since the arguments here and in many other places is that PC are so powerful and that the PS4 is under power,is just basically silly that most gamers on Steam actually have hardware under power vs the PS4. People like 04dcarraher are the biggest joke such a strong damage control and all is because his PC us under power vs the PS4.JamDev

I'll stay from the damage control part since I'm quite sure the PS4 has a stronger GPU than the one in my PC. I'm not sure about the PS4's CPU yet. But, I am intrigued with the thought of all 8 cores working hard even at a lower clock speed. That one I'm keeping a close eye on.

You have to remember though that participation in Steam's Hardware Survey is completely optional. I've never participated in it ever and I'm sure there are many PC gamers like me who have no interest in such things. I keep Steam online just long enough to buy a game or get an update and then it's back offline. The Steam Hardware Survey is a good measurement for those who participated. But, we don't really know how accurate it is.

That's like here in Gamespot. I know quite a few flight simmers and they all have very godly PCs. But, you'll never see them here (at GS) because they don't consider the genre as "gaming." To them, it's a serious "hobby." I shake my head at that thought. I just go along with them rather than argue semantics. But, you get the idea. I believe the Steam Hardware Survey may not be representing some segments accurately.

There's more non enthusiasts games on Steam then anything else.

@iamrob7: And how much are you paying for all this?

Who expects consoles to keep up with computers? What's the purpose of this thread? Computers are upgradeable, consoles are not. We get it.

Why did you bring up this dead thread?

Who bumped this zombie thread?