By the time nextgen comes out midrange GPUs will be capable of 4k-1600p gaming

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

Also: Sushingtton has mentioned virtual reality, like the Oculus rift which requires resolutions above 1080p at least twice.

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

NoodleFighter

I'll be pissed if console devs try to push for higher resolutions this gen.

So many struggled last gen just trying to get 720p at the expense of performance and other more important visual aspects. If they can nail 1080p this gen then that's good enough. No more shooting themselves in the foot trying to squeeze an ocean out of a rock.

Let PCs be PCs, console games dont have to strive for the high end.

*boom*clyde46

Yeah...

And who here has a 4K television to play at that resolution? Zeviander

I think people would be happy with 1080P for the next 5 years, just sayin.

I doubt it, since the 8000 series is going to be a refresh, and it's rumored the 700 series will be too. Probably won't see much of a performance boost this year. Ofcourse this is assuming 720/PS4 come out this holiday.

I think people would be happy with 1080P for the next 5 years, just sayin.

crimsonman1245

Exactly. 1080p with solid performance would be great and would already be a big step up from last gen.

Besides that, these higher resolutions will yield diminishing results at very much expense. Not really worth the trade off. The difference is there, 4K is really a sight to see, but unless you have a massive set the difference is almost negligible.

.

I think people would be happy with 1080P for the next 5 years, just sayin.

crimsonman1245

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I think people would be happy with 1080P for the next 5 years, just sayin.

mitu123

I throw ridiculous amounts of money towards my many custom builds every year (its a hobby) and I would still be more than satisfied with 1080p gaming for some time to come.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

I think people would be happy with 1080P for the next 5 years, just sayin.

sandbox3d

I throw ridiculous amounts of money towards my many custom builds every year (its a hobby) and I would still be more than satisfied with 1080p gaming for some time to come.

Lol good luck having a midrange 2013 GPU run demanding games at that resolutionGioVela2010

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Lol good luck having a midrange 2013 GPU run demanding games at that resolutionclyde46

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

NoodleFighter

From 2011, http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/27/amd-far-future-prototype-gpu-pictured/

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Console owners mainly.:P

mitu123

I throw ridiculous amounts of money towards my many custom builds every year (its a hobby) and I would still be more than satisfied with 1080p gaming for some time to come.

1080p is starting to feel dated to me, so I think in the next 2 years I'll geta 1600p monitor or something, maybe chip in for the family and get a 4k TV

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Console owners mainly.:P

mitu123

I throw ridiculous amounts of money towards my many custom builds every year (its a hobby) and I would still be more than satisfied with 1080p gaming for some time to come.

Fair enough. I'm not opposed to overkill. If you can run it then why not? I just dont see 1080p as some unplayable resolution. ESPECIALLY for console gaming (which I know was your original point anyways).

Then again, I still enjoy plenty of games even as far back as NES titles. So I guess I'm not the most picky when it comes to resolution and gaming.

What Super-HD advocates fail to mention is the importance of viewing distance and display size. And the diminishing returns the higher up you go.Zeviander

Already addressed actually.

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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I throw ridiculous amounts of money towards my many custom builds every year (its a hobby) and I would still be more than satisfied with 1080p gaming for some time to come.

sandbox3d

Fair enough. I'm not opposed to overkill. If you can run it then why not? I just dont see 1080p as some unplayable resolution. ESPECIALLY for console gaming (which I know was your original point anyways).

Then again, I still enjoy plenty of games even as far back as NES titles. So I guess I'm not the most picky when it comes to resolution and gaming.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Lol good luck having a midrange 2013 GPU run demanding games at that resolutionGioVela2010

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] I went 1440p, 1600p and 1800p and don't think about 1080p ever again.>.>

mitu123

Fair enough. I'm not opposed to overkill. If you can run it then why not? I just dont see 1080p as some unplayable resolution. ESPECIALLY for console gaming (which I know was your original point anyways).

Then again, I still enjoy plenty of games even as far back as NES titles. So I guess I'm not the most picky when it comes to resolution and gaming.

F*ck yeah, SoR and old school Sonic!

By then, everybody's current PC will become obsolete and can't run next-generation of console ports. You can't even upgrade your current one because DDR4 and new hardwares will come out at 2013. Time to put that $2000 PC on the garage and pay full price on an yet another entire computer system.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

clyde46

:lol:

I care little about pushing resolutions above 1080P.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

super600

:lol:

I care little about pushing resolutions above 1080P.

Have you seen a game played in over 1080p? It's quite good.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"].BPoole96

:lol:

I care little about pushing resolutions above 1080P.

Have you seen a game played in over 1080p? It's quite good.

Nope.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

clyde46

Hermitz care as if peoplw ant good gfx. My farcry 3 ran and looked just fine, infact as good asPC.

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

clyde46

It's funny how hermits get really restless and make lots of threads about pc gaming superiority when new consoles are on their way._Cadbury_

and resolution means something?
whats funny is how often hermits claims of superior graphics concern only AA and resolution and fps, anything such as high character polygons, textures...etc often dont even come into the equation.

basically if the game is all stick figures as long as its high resolution and those sticks look really smooth then its graphically superior.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

I think people would be happy with 1080P for the next 5 years, just sayin.

mitu123

I'm going with that mostly.

Console gamers just have to deal with what they are given. PC gamers can actually be proactive in improving their gaming experience graphics included.

and resolution means something?
whats funny is how often hermits claims of superior graphics concern only AA and resolution and fps, anything such as high character polygons, textures...etc often dont even come into the equation.

basically if the game is all stick figures as long as its high resolution and those sticks look really smooth then its graphically superior.

WilliamRLBaker

Look there is basically no difference in these screnshtos:

PS3:DirectFed

PC:DirectFed

and resolution means something?
whats funny is how often hermits claims of superior graphics concern only AA and resolution and fps, anything such as high character polygons, textures...etc often dont even come into the equation.

basically if the game is all stick figures as long as its high resolution and those sticks look really smooth then its graphically superior.

WilliamRLBaker

and resolution means something?
whats funny is how often hermits claims of superior graphics concern only AA and resolution and fps, anything such as high character polygons, textures...etc often dont even come into the equation.

basically if the game is all stick figures as long as its high resolution and those sticks look really smooth then its graphically superior.

WilliamRLBaker

Not worth it next gen IMO. Especially since most console games will likely be 1080p or a bit lower. Even for PC gaming, I would prefer to use the extra resources needed for ultra-high resolution to go towards better performance and graphics settings. It works out better in a way because the resolution I'll be used to will be a common standard between my PC gaming and console gaming.

I think people would be happy with 1080P for the next 5 years, just sayin.

crimsonman1245

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

NoodleFighter

On 660 Ti vs GTX 580, it depends on the gamee e.g. GTX 580 beat 660 Ti on Metro 2033. GTX 580 equals 660 Ti on Crysis 2 @ 2560x1600,

Key part with 580 level performance shifting to mid-range price segment is tied with process tech's advancement.

For late 2013/early 2014 launch, Xbox Next or PS4 will be using the current 28nm process tech from either GoFlo or TSMC.

Modern Low end GPUs can already play games in 1080p easily with reasonable graphical quality, toshiba displayed a GTX 680 and HD 7950 playing Dirt 3 in ultra in 4k, so for less demanding games/settings it will be even better performance. By the time the Xbox 720/PS4 come out which probably late 2013 or early 2013, mid range GPUs will be capable of playing games on average in 1600p-4k. GDDR6 has been hinted to release in 2014 so the boost in VRAM speed will make playing in such high resolutions and having even higher res textures more possible.

Mid range GPUs should rival the GTX 680 at least since the GTX 660 performs faster than a GTX 580.

Of course adaption for 4k TVs will take some time but PC gamers are starting to move over to 1600p. So in a year or 2 when every company has a 4k TV line up prices should be cheap enough for the masses to jump ship.

NoodleFighter

You don't seem to understand how things work. It is and was never about absolute capability. Even the ps3 and 360 can do 1080p @ 60fps. However, it's about what you lose from doing that. Devs are not sticking to 720p @ 30fps, like they normally do, because the console hardware can't handle it, it's just that they feel the extra million pixels and 30fps take a backseat compared to say....better textures, dynamic lighting, draw distances etc. etc.

Even on the PC, it's the same thing. I have a GTX 680, and capability wise, my card can handle 2560x1440. But do i want to? Do I really need that extra 2 million pixels? It'll be nice to have of course. But is it worth lowering all my graphic settings from Ultra to Medium? The answer is probably a NO.

In the case of a TV, unlike the PC, people tend to be sitting 10 feet away from it. At that distance, you're not gonna notice the difference between 1080p and 1440p. Why then. would devs waste processing power rendering at 1440p if it's negated by the distance people sit away from the TV? 60fps however, is something that is easily perceptible from 30fps. But even then, the logic is that 45 fps is seemingly smooth enough. So rather than lock it at 60fps, might as well strive for 45fps and use the processing power for texture and lighting instead. It's all opportunity cost. If you'd have spent a whole day tampering with the settings of Crysis 1 to get the best balance of visual quality and performance, you would have understood that automatically.

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"] That's not midrange..GioVela2010

GTX 660 Ti toes the line between upper midrange and high-end. GTX 660 is squarely midrange.