Calling Killzone 2 a Halo killer is like calling Fable 2 a FF killer

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#1 jrhawk42
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Why do cows keep on hyping this game.  It's obviously crap, and probably always will be.  I'll admit the trailers do look good, but making a good game is completely different from making a good game trailer.

A few other points.

If a game is being previewed it will never be shown in a negative manner.  It's is a rule of game journalism that you never say something negative about a game that isn't released.

Screen shots do not give a accurate portrayal of actual graphics.  Expect screen shots to show the best possible situation and hide all the negative aspects of a game.  Some developers even create special screenshot textures, and engines to make a game look way better then it ever will once it is released.  (gameplay movies also tend to follow this pattern)


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#2 Sim_genius
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I know it's so dumb!
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#3 Spartan070
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Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...
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#4 lawlessx
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"If a game is being previewed it will never be shown in a negative manner. It's is a rule of game journalism that you never say something negative about a game that isn't released." you know what? im very glad you said this...did anyone else notice how postive ign's preview of oblivion was compared to others?
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#5 tonemd_basic
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Who called Killzone 2 a Halo killer? That dream died after Killzone's first review. The game is hyped because of the trailer, of course. But not as much as lemmings would have you believe. Lemmings love to resurrect old hype to prove some kind of ridiculous point.
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#6 magus-21
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Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
Only if Molyneux finally implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely). Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.
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#7 lawlessx
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Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as "the best RPG ever" by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.
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#8 Hoffgod
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And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...
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And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...Hoffgod

An endless Cycle.

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#10 Gamer46
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And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...Hoffgod


:lol:  Good point, but that's the cows for you.
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#11 Imallvol7
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i know that there are alot of jokes about killzone 2. I am not excited about it either. HOwever, I hope they take this doubt and turn it into productivity and motivation to surprise us.
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[QUOTE="tonemd_basic"]Who called Killzone 2 a Halo killer? That dream died after Killzone's first review. The game is hyped because of the trailer, of course. But not as much as lemmings would have you believe. Lemmings love to resurrect old hype to prove some kind of ridiculous point.

Umm I'm looking at your sig and I see Spawn. Where can I get that spawn. The only Spawn I found was this tiny one from the SNES game. That game was good but he sucked in MUGEN.
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#13 Imallvol7
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And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...Hoffgod
everyone laughs at anyone hyping sonic, have you played any of the last 40 failures. Killzone wasnt bad, it just was not halo good.
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Is FFXIII going to be turn-based rpg?

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Is FFXIII going to be turn-based rpg?

xLegend24
...actually, I don't know.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...lawlessx
please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as "the best RPG ever" by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...magus-21
Only if Molyneux finally implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely). Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.

Guys, Fable was AAA at most sites WITH the absence of all that stuff, this time he isn't himself hyping it and I guarantee he will want to make a bigger impression. Fable was amazing if you just ignored the hype...
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#17 HarryMason319
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Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
I own a 360 and even I know thats false.
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#18 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as "the best RPG ever" by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...magus-21
Only if Molyneux finally implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely). Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.

Guys, Fable was AAA at most sites WITH the absence of all that stuff, this time he isn't himself hyping it and I guarantee he will want to make a bigger impression. Fable was amazing if you just ignored the hype...

im not saying it was a bad game..just that i couldn't understand the hype it was getting even after news released about the game missing alot of features promised.
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[QUOTE="xLegend24"]

Is FFXIII going to be turn-based rpg?

Hewkii

...actually, I don't know.

Yes, but there's no time to rest between inputting actions, basically, expect the fastest turn based battles ever.  Versus 13 on the other hand is real time like Kingdom Hearts.

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as "the best RPG ever" by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...magus-21
Only if Molyneux finally implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely). Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.

Guys, Fable was AAA at most sites WITH the absence of all that stuff, this time he isn't himself hyping it and I guarantee he will want to make a bigger impression. Fable was amazing if you just ignored the hype...

It averaged an AA at Gamerankings actually. The hype did hurt it a lot, and it was a good game, but it wasn't anything sensational. It had major problems which had nothing to do with the hype; it was far too linear and short and the levelling system had quite a few flaws in promoting pure specialisation and being complex. Most of that has nothing to do with the hype of features like child raising and other roaming heroes whom you compete with that was originally planned.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...lawlessx
please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as "the best RPG ever" by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.

Fable is under-rated. I really enjoyed Fable, the only thing that disappointed me was the fact that it was too short. It was a great game and I can't wait for the second one. The only RPG's I've enjoyed more were Morrowind and Oblivion. I've never played a FF game but thats because turn-based combat doesn't appeal to me, but if I ever get a PS3 I'll try FF13, because I've heard that 12 didn't have turn-based and 13 wont either.
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#22 HaloFan77
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
please..no. i still remeber when fable was being hype as "the best RPG ever" by alot of lemmings..i was one of the few lemmings on the board bashing fable at the time of its release because i really didnt understand why the hyped kept getting stronger when more and more news were releasing stating the game was missing alot features that were promised.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...magus-21
Only if Molyneux finally implements all those ideas he's been promising (i.e. not too damned likely). Molyneux is the Kutaragi of game development: over-promising and under-delivering.

Guys, Fable was AAA at most sites WITH the absence of all that stuff, this time he isn't himself hyping it and I guarantee he will want to make a bigger impression. Fable was amazing if you just ignored the hype...

I agree.
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#23 Hot_Potato
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Personally, on the topic of console fps games, nothing will be Halo.
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#24 coolguy1111
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You saying it wil be bad is as ignorant as them saying it will be good...
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#25 xLegend24
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Ya, count me out on FFXIII because I hate turn-based combat. How do you guys have fun with that? I don't care if it has the greatest story or graphics whatever, at the end of the day i'm looking for solid gameplay and FFXIII ain't what I'm looking for. I will try out FFXII, because it's like Kingdom Hearts I guess. So, ya I'll probably like Fable 2 better, I guess.

Btw, have the devs confirmed that FFXIII will be turn-based?

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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...HarryMason319
I own a 360 and even I know thats false.

How so? You know nothing aboutthe game, neither do I, all I said is that it could happen, speculation =/= false...
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#27 HarryMason319
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[QUOTE="HarryMason319"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
I own a 360 and even I know thats false.

How so? You know nothing aboutthe game, neither do I, all I said is that it could happen, speculation =/= false...

.... I know that the Fanbase of FF is about 20 times the size of that of Fable. Thats enough.
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#28 rockydog1111
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Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...Spartan070
Right didnt Peter M. promise everything he is promising for the second game in the first as well. If I remember didnt the first game do none of what it was supposed to do other than you could scare villiagers if you got a bunch of tatoos. I am very skeptikal about Fable 2 as I considered the 1st one a flop. It was my most anticipated title for the XBOX.
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#30 SpinoRaptor
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Killzone isn't a Halo killer.

Never was, never will be.

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#31 Krigon
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Killzone isn't a Halo killer.

Never was, never will be.

SpinoRaptor

The fun part was Guerilla never mentioned Killzone 1 to be a halo killer. Guess who did..... the media.

No one is saying Killzone 2 will be a halo killer either. It's kinda hard to kill a franshise that's on a different system. But trust me that the media once again will try to spin this to a Halo killer when we reach near the release of the game.

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#32 Il_Exile_lI
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I am saving this thread for when both Killzone 2 and Fable 2 get AAA and FFXIII flops.
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#33 SpinoRaptor
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

Killzone isn't a Halo killer.

Never was, never will be.

Krigon

The fun part was Guerilla never mentioned Killzone 1 to be a halo killer. Guess who did..... the media.

No one is saying Killzone 2 will be a halo killer either. It's kinda hard to kill a franshise that's on a different system. But trust me that the media once again will try to spin this to a Halo killer when we reach near the release of the game.

Don't listen to the media :)

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#34 angelkimne
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Fable was only .4 away from FF XII.
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#35 Krigon
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[QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

Killzone isn't a Halo killer.

Never was, never will be.

SpinoRaptor

The fun part was Guerilla never mentioned Killzone 1 to be a halo killer. Guess who did..... the media.

No one is saying Killzone 2 will be a halo killer either. It's kinda hard to kill a franshise that's on a different system. But trust me that the media once again will try to spin this to a Halo killer when we reach near the release of the game.

Don't listen to the media :)

System wars feeds on the media. It craves stuff like this!

:P I rarely do actually.

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#36 superjim42
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no one called it a halo killer.

thread failed

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#38 ff7isnumbaone
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lol TC name the cows that said what your claining. No pic or it didn't happen lol.
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#39 ff7isnumbaone
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person who said what your claiming is either, a lemmings dressed as a cow or some casual gamer who types random stuff.
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#40 Utensilman
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Fable >>>>>>>>>>>>> any recent FF's
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#41 fabz_95
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I think it would be quite foolish to call Killzone 2 a Halo killer :?
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Actually no because Fable is amazing, Fable 2 could easily out do FFXIII...rockydog1111
Right didnt Peter M. promise everything he is promising for the second game in the first as well. If I remember didnt the first game do none of what it was supposed to do other than you could scare villiagers if you got a bunch of tatoos. I am very skeptikal about Fable 2 as I considered the 1st one a flop. It was my most anticipated title for the XBOX.

But this time mr. Molyneux has shown on videos that at least some of the promised features are in the game. So I think Fable 2 will be the game that first Fable should've been.

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#43 ff7isnumbaone
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Fable >>>>>>>>>>>>> any recent FF's Utensilman

in your mind. Somethings are better off not typed and that was one of them lol.

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#44 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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[QUOTE="Utensilman"]Fable >>>>>>>>>>>>> any recent FF's ff7isnumbaone

in your mind. Somethings are better off not typed and that was one of them lol.

In my mind: worst WRPG >>>>>>>> best JRPG. ;)

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#45 wally2nv
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dude its cows its what they do
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#46 Utensilman
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[QUOTE="Utensilman"]Fable >>>>>>>>>>>>> any recent FF's ff7isnumbaone

in your mind. Somethings are better off not typed and that was one of them lol.

only good FF games- 6, 7, 9. Fable is better than the rest by far.

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#47 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]And cows laugh at Nintendo fans hyping Sonic...Gamer46


:lol: Good point, but that's the cows for you.

Not exactly. That's SW for you ;).

KZ2 has never been hyped a a Halo killer. That died after the KZ1 review.

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#48 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]

[QUOTE="Utensilman"]Fable >>>>>>>>>>>>> any recent FF's Utensilman

in your mind. Somethings are better off not typed and that was one of them lol.

only good FF games- 6, 7, 9. Fable is better than the rest by far.

That's your opinion. But this is GS and your opinion really doesn't matter when comparing games here.

All recent Final Fantasy games have been AAA and outscored Fable.

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#49 MojondeVACA
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The only thing KZ2 is going to kill is itself..and TMLO stop bumping year old threads moderators can still see the messages even if you deleted the post.
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#50 MotoJ19
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Killzone isnt an halo killer, it's not even an AAA title.