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#51 MetroidPrimePwn
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What's that game with the car and it says "picking up the hitchhiker"?nyoroism

That's a screen from Alan Wake.

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#52 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]What's that game with the car and it says "picking up the hitchhiker"?MetroidPrimePwn

That's a screen from Alan Wake.

Thanks. I had already been interested in that game before.
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#53 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

You definatly posted some of the worst pics for those games,

saolin323

and yet they look better than the fable 2 shots that youve posted all over the place.

Do they look better really now ? Apart from Crysis and far Cry 2, i do not see grasses in any of them, those games can't even handle the ammount of grass Fable 2 does, as for the lighting and volumetric light beams fltered throught the trees, there games might run them in 1 frame per ... hour

Nice try, but you have to try harder proving those pics look better, they look everything from more empty, with less stuff around, worst lighting, no volumertic lighting, not so amazing shadows etc etc as Fable 2, that is, miles behind in every way, and if you add the art factor, then you have an overkill iMO

sorry, i didnt realize you counted strands of grass as your overall teh graphics winnar. but if you insist, i recommend cod4 or mgs3 snake eater, both have amazing grass that you can see. INDIVIDUALLY.i know i know wow thats like 100x next gen right there.

Secondly, the other screenshots dont have volumetric lighting or whatever the hell that is, but i can tell you that they have characters onscreen, i can see the individual hairs in re5. as for lighting, the lighting in killzone has been explored, why dont you see what fanboys of other games have to say about it, just search the sw board.

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#54 Riverwolf007
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I didn't like the first Fable but all you guys talking about it constantly got my curiosity up a little bit.

The graphics look pretty sweet maybe I can put aside my bias about the first one and give it a try.

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#55 p2rus
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have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!
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#56 GnR-SLaSh
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*waits for saolin*Lemmywinks_360

LOL. I don't think the graphics of Fable are necessarily more realistic than those, I just like the artwork..

What picture is it where it says *Picking up Hitchhiker*?>?!

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#57 saolin323
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have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!p2rus

PC gamers used it to hype Crysis, with the amazing god rays etc, now it is minor ALL OF THE SUDDEN, because a 360 game does it ?

HAHAHAHA, how pathetic

Same goes for shadows, when Crysis was hyped for the amazing stretching with the sun shadows, it was ok, best hting on earth, now that Fable 2 does it, it is nothing to talk about !!!

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[QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!saolin323

PC gamers used it to hype Crysis, with the amazing god rays etc, now it is minor ALL OF THE SUDDEN, because a 360 games does it ?

HAHAHAHA, how pathetic

Almost every next gen game does it. Uncharted Drakes Fortune did it last year btw.
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#59 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!saolin323

PC gamers used it to hype Crysis, with the amazing god rays etc, now it is minor ALL OF THE SUDDEN, because a 360 games does it ?

HAHAHAHA, how pathetic

well i could come back with 2 arguments: if the 360 can do it then yes, it is minor

or...

pc gamers who hype crysis based on volumetric lighting are fanboys. i wonder what that makes 360 gamers who hype games based on volumetric lighting...

you pick.

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#61 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!numba1234

PC gamers used it to hype Crysis, with the amazing god rays etc, now it is minor ALL OF THE SUDDEN, because a 360 games does it ?

HAHAHAHA, how pathetic

Almost every next gen game does it.

Amost every, like Crysis ONLY, and now Fable 2, maybe Far cry 2, MAYBE

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#62 smokeydabear076
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have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!p2rus
I disagree, Fable 2 puts a lot more emphasis on grass than anything else. We should be talking about the grass not the lighting.
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#63 p2rus
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!numba1234

PC gamers used it to hype Crysis, with the amazing god rays etc, now it is minor ALL OF THE SUDDEN, because a 360 games does it ?

HAHAHAHA, how pathetic

Almost every next gen game does it.

cod4 has shadows!

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#64 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!smokeydabear076
I disagree, Fable 2 puts a lot more emphasis on grass than anything else. We should be talking about the grass not the lighting.

oh please...the grass is nothing. you just wait, peter promised that the grass will grow, and that one of the jobs you can get is a gardener. then just watch the amazing cutting animation, all done procedurally. 100x times better than crysis! more next gen then far cry! a TRILLION times better than kameo's grass!

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#65 numba1234
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[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!saolin323

PC gamers used it to hype Crysis, with the amazing god rays etc, now it is minor ALL OF THE SUDDEN, because a 360 games does it ?

HAHAHAHA, how pathetic

Almost every next gen game does it.

Amost every, like Crysis ONLY, and now Fable 2, maybe Far cry 2, MAYBE

Like oblivion, Uncharted Drakes Fortune, and many other games. This tech is so old that I could make fun of it. UNreal Engine 3 even had volumetric lighting. That means games like turok, and mass effect had that tech. You just change how much light goes through fog. That is it.
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#66 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!numba1234

PC gamers used it to hype Crysis, with the amazing god rays etc, now it is minor ALL OF THE SUDDEN, because a 360 games does it ?

HAHAHAHA, how pathetic

Almost every next gen game does it.

Amost every, like Crysis ONLY, and now Fable 2, maybe Far cry 2, MAYBE

Like oblivion, Uncharted Drakes Fortune, and many other games. This tech is so old that I could make fun of it. UNreal Engine 3 even has volumetric lighting.

Sorry, get a clue first, Oblivion has no volumetric effects, or even dynamic real shadows

Maybe you have no idea what you are talking about ? Drake has nothing like it too, sorry

UE3.0 has no volumetric lighting at all, just some faked one

Try learning some things first, if you think there are volumes of light that move in Drake or UE3.0, then some PC expert will fill you in, that you have no idea what you are talking about

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#67 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!p2rus

I disagree, Fable 2 puts a lot more emphasis on grass than anything else. We should be talking about the grass not the lighting.

oh please...the grass is nothing. you just wait, peter promised that the grass will grow, and that one of the jobs you can get is a gardener. then just watch the amazing cutting animation, all done procedurally. 100x times better than crysis! more next gen then far cry! a TRILLION times better than kameo's grass!

If I recall correctly, Fable 1 was supposed to have an amazing grass growth engine, like if you cut a blade of grass with your sword it would grow back in real time....if they actually do this in Fable 2 it will be amazing. For the first time in a video game we will actually be able to watch grass grow...and it will look a trillion times better than any other game.
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#68 p2rus
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Sorry, get a clue first, Oblivion has no volumetric effects, or even dynamic real shadows

Maybe you have no idea what you are talking about ? Drake has nothing like it too, sorry

UE3.0 has no volumetric lighting at all, just some faked one

Try learning some things first, if you think there are volumes of light that move in Drake or UE3.0, then some PC expert will fill you in, that you have no idea what you are talking about

saolin323

in oblivion when you have a torch it casts a shadow on everything, the shadow of your body changes as your hand goes back and forth in stride.

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#69 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!smokeydabear076

I disagree, Fable 2 puts a lot more emphasis on grass than anything else. We should be talking about the grass not the lighting.

oh please...the grass is nothing. you just wait, peter promised that the grass will grow, and that one of the jobs you can get is a gardener. then just watch the amazing cutting animation, all done procedurally. 100x times better than crysis! more next gen then far cry! a TRILLION times better than kameo's grass!

For the first time in a video game we will actually be able to watch grass grow...and it will look a trillion times better than any other game.

Tell me, would it look more realistic than golf? cause if video game grass growing > real grass growing...my god.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!p2rus

I disagree, Fable 2 puts a lot more emphasis on grass than anything else. We should be talking about the grass not the lighting.

oh please...the grass is nothing. you just wait, peter promised that the grass will grow, and that one of the jobs you can get is a gardener. then just watch the amazing cutting animation, all done procedurally. 100x times better than crysis! more next gen then far cry! a TRILLION times better than kameo's grass!

For the first time in a video game we will actually be able to watch grass grow...and it will look a trillion times better than any other game.

Tell me, would it look more realistic than golf? cause if video game grass growing > real grass growing...my god.

It is going to be more realistic, now you can clearly understand why people like saolin are so excited for this game.
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#71 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Sorry, get a clue first, Oblivion has no volumetric effects, or even dynamic real shadows

Maybe you have no idea what you are talking about ? Drake has nothing like it too, sorry

UE3.0 has no volumetric lighting at all, just some faked one

Try learning some things first, if you think there are volumes of light that move in Drake or UE3.0, then some PC expert will fill you in, that you have no idea what you are talking about

p2rus

in oblivion when you have a torch it casts a shadow on everything, the shadow of your body changes as your hand goes back and forth in stride.

Hahahaha, this effect is a JOKE, have you ever played Oblivion ? Have you gone to the woods ? Do shadows move as the sun sets and rises ? Maybe in your dreams they do, same for towns etc

And there is no such thing as god rays and volumetric lighting in Oblivion

What a joke, you actually think you are right, don't you ?

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[QUOTE="freakn3ss"]

Rpg vs fps and driving game ?? that's a weird comparison

digi198816

Hes doing graphics comparasion, not genre comparasion. I didnt know there was a rule saying two games of different genres couldnt be compared graphically :S

Well, if you compare Crysis to some other game that renders a lot less then it is not fair.

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#73 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Sorry, get a clue first, Oblivion has no volumetric effects, or even dynamic real shadows

Maybe you have no idea what you are talking about ? Drake has nothing like it too, sorry

UE3.0 has no volumetric lighting at all, just some faked one

Try learning some things first, if you think there are volumes of light that move in Drake or UE3.0, then some PC expert will fill you in, that you have no idea what you are talking about

saolin323

in oblivion when you have a torch it casts a shadow on everything, the shadow of your body changes as your hand goes back and forth in stride.

Hahahaha, this effect is a JOKE, have you ever played Oblivion ? Have you gone to the woods ? Do shadows move as the dun sets and rises ? Maybe in your dreams they do, same for towns etc

And there is no such thing as god rays and volumetric lighting in Oblivion

What a joke, yo uactualyl think you are right, don't you ?

sorry i play games not shadows

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#74 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="p2rus"]have you guys heard? the word of the day is volumetric lighting!smokeydabear076

I disagree, Fable 2 puts a lot more emphasis on grass than anything else. We should be talking about the grass not the lighting.

oh please...the grass is nothing. you just wait, peter promised that the grass will grow, and that one of the jobs you can get is a gardener. then just watch the amazing cutting animation, all done procedurally. 100x times better than crysis! more next gen then far cry! a TRILLION times better than kameo's grass!

For the first time in a video game we will actually be able to watch grass grow...and it will look a trillion times better than any other game.

Tell me, would it look more realistic than golf? cause if video game grass growing > real grass growing...my god.

It is going to be more realistic, now you can clearly understand why people like saolin are so excited for this game.

there are other people excited for this game? well ive just joined their ranks, and i hope you do too! volumetric lighting and grass that grows!

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#75 saolin323
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sorry i play games not shadowsp2rus

So, why are you in this thread posting things that are not real ? To bash Fable 2 maybe ?

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[QUOTE="p2rus"]sorry i play games not shadowssaolin323

So, why are you in this thread posting things that are not real ? To bash Fable 2 maybe ?

wait what isnt real? grass that grows in real time! damn i was so hyped.
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It's a very pretty game, but it's not as technically impressive as those games on your list, except KZ2, because that game has poor textures on the environment.
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#78 saolin323
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It's a very pretty game, but it's not as technically impressive as those games on your list, except KZ2, because that game has poor textures on the environment.BioShockOwnz

It is comparable to Far cry 2 and Crysis, but it is totally ahead of any of the other games, in detail, volumetric lighting, real 3D forests, vast landscapes etc

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fable 2 isnt even done...
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fable 2 isnt even done...SaintsRowSam
neither are those games...
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]It's a very pretty game, but it's not as technically impressive as those games on your list, except KZ2, because that game has poor textures on the environment.saolin323

It is comparable to Far cry 2 and Crysis, but it is totally ahead of any of the other games, in detail, volumetric lighting, real 3D forests, vast landscapes etc

you obviously have NEVER played crysis.. please just stop already..

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#82 p2rus
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]It's a very pretty game, but it's not as technically impressive as those games on your list, except KZ2, because that game has poor textures on the environment.Arsenal325

It is comparable to Far cry 2 and Crysis, but it is totally ahead of any of the other games, in detail, volumetric lighting, real 3D forests, vast landscapes etc

you obviously have NEVER played crysis.. please just stop already..

nono dont discourage him...

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#83 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]sorry i play games not shadowsp2rus

So, why are you in this thread posting things that are not real ? To bash Fable 2 maybe ?

wait what isnt real? grass that grows in real time! damn i was so hyped.

Yeah Fable 2 is gonna suck now.
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#84 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]It's a very pretty game, but it's not as technically impressive as those games on your list, except KZ2, because that game has poor textures on the environment.Arsenal325

It is comparable to Far cry 2 and Crysis, but it is totally ahead of any of the other games, in detail, volumetric lighting, real 3D forests, vast landscapes etc

you obviously have NEVER played crysis.. please just stop already..

I have played it, all the main graphical attractions like the moving stretching shadows, the vast ammounts of trees and grass, that receive those shadows, the volumetric lighting from the sun filtering through trees, are ALL to be found in that pic of Fable 2 forest i posted.

So, you have something more to say ?

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#85 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Arsenal325"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]It's a very pretty game, but it's not as technically impressive as those games on your list, except KZ2, because that game has poor textures on the environment.saolin323

It is comparable to Far cry 2 and Crysis, but it is totally ahead of any of the other games, in detail, volumetric lighting, real 3D forests, vast landscapes etc

you obviously have NEVER played crysis.. please just stop already..

I have played it, all the main graphical attractions like the moving stretching shadows, the vast ammounts of trees and grass, that receive those shadows, the volumetric lighting from the sun filtering through trees, are ALL to be found in that pic of Fable 2 forest i posted.

So, you have something more to say ?

Can you chop down trees in Fable 2 and watch them grow back in real time?
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#87 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]sorry i play games not shadowssmokeydabear076

So, why are you in this thread posting things that are not real ? To bash Fable 2 maybe ?

wait what isnt real? grass that grows in real time! damn i was so hyped.

Yeah Fable 2 is gonna suck now.

i think ill go back to hyping lair's revamped control scheme.

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It's the different art stlye and presentation. That's all.
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#89 p2rus
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Can you get std's in Fable 2?
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Sorry, Fable 2 doesn't look as good as Far Cry 2 or Crysis, not even close. It's artistic design is beautiful, though.
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Nobody really cares.
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#92 p2rus
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Sorry, Fable 2 doesn't look as good as Far Cry 2 or Crysis, not even close. It's artistic design is beautiful, though.BioShockOwnz

if you squint real hard and spray some windex in your eyes...worked for solin. read it on his fable 2 blog, really quite innovative.

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#93 saolin323
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Sorry, Fable 2 doesn't look as good as Far Cry 2 or Crysis, not even close. It's artistic design is beautiful, though.BioShockOwnz

- dynamic real time shadows from each tree leaf on everything CHECK

- amazing shadows on grass, full gras coverage CHECK

- amazingly detailed 120.000 leaves trees CHECK

- amazing light beams, volumetric effects that move as the sun moves CHECK

- amazing detail around, ground full of grass, flowers, rocks, trees CHECK

- great textures CHECK

- amazing HDR CHECK

- amazing lighting CHECK

- day/night cycles that make everyhting look different at each time of day, and make shadows and light beams move and filter throught the foliage etc CHECK

Are you SURE Fable 2 is nothing like Far Cry 2 and Crysis ? I see a HOST of the main things that make those games amazing, fully implemented in Fable 2, all shown in the latest forest pic, posted a few days back !!!!

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#94 p2rus
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry, Fable 2 doesn't look as good as Far Cry 2 or Crysis, not even close. It's artistic design is beautiful, though.saolin323

- full gras coverage CHECK

back up...rehyping fable 2.

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#95 Vandalvideo
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Fable is an amazing looking game with a great deal of style, but its hardly as good as many of the people here are making it out to be. You would think fable fans [I myself am one] would realize this hype is working against them.
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#96 WARxSnake
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How something looks != graphics. Fable's universe is more beautiful. THE END, get over it and go hump your PC parts.Pro_wrestler

go hump your xbox you defend so valiantly.

goes both ways.

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#97 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry, Fable 2 doesn't look as good as Far Cry 2 or Crysis, not even close. It's artistic design is beautiful, though.saolin323

- dynamic real time shadows from each tree leaf on everything CHECK

- amazing shadows on grass, full gras coverage CHECK

- amazingly detailed 120.000 leaves trees CHECK

- amazing light beams, volumetric effects that move as the sun moves CHECK

- amazing detail around, ground full of grass, flowers, rocks, trees CHECK

- great textures CHECK

- amazing HDR CHECK

- amazing lighting CHECK

- day/night cycles that make everyhting look different at each time of day, and make shadows and light beams move and filter throught the foliage etc CHECK

Are you SURE Fable 2 is nothing like Far Cry 2 and Crysis ? I see a HOST of the main things that make those games amazing, fully implemented in Fable 2, all shown in the latest forest pic, posted a few days back !!!!

no one gives a crap if it gives the same effect as in other games. in fact there are other games that look better.

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#98 WARxSnake
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and saolin

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seriously get some doctor to transplant Falcon or Hawk eyes for you, you desperately need help.

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#99 saolin323
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[QUOTE="saolin323"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sorry, Fable 2 doesn't look as good as Far Cry 2 or Crysis, not even close. It's artistic design is beautiful, though.Arjdagr8

- dynamic real time shadows from each tree leaf on everything CHECK

- amazing shadows on grass, full gras coverage CHECK

- amazingly detailed 120.000 leaves trees CHECK

- amazing light beams, volumetric effects that move as the sun moves CHECK

- amazing detail around, ground full of grass, flowers, rocks, trees CHECK

- great textures CHECK

- amazing HDR CHECK

- amazing lighting CHECK

- day/night cycles that make everyhting look different at each time of day, and make shadows and light beams move and filter throught the foliage etc CHECK

Are you SURE Fable 2 is nothing like Far Cry 2 and Crysis ? I see a HOST of the main things that make those games amazing, fully implemented in Fable 2, all shown in the latest forest pic, posted a few days back !!!!

no one gives a crap if it gives the same effect as in other games. in fact there are other games that look better.

Itr is ONLY opinion thereafter, fact is Fable 2 uses all those features, and they look so stunning that make it the absolutly best looking game on the market, coming or out so far to me

If you like more realistic art, Crysis is for you though, but technically Fable 2 DOES have all the above graphical features Crysis uses

So, that is a fact for you, Fable 2 is the best looking game for me, let's leave it at that

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#100 Vandalvideo
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, but technically Fable 2 DOES have all the above graphical features Crysis usessaolin323
Does fable have fully destructible, fully free roam enviroments? Nope.