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#1 Rahnyc4
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when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

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They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.
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It only has bad software sales because so many people pirate games on it. I bet if all those people who pirate games actually bought them instead then the sales would at least double if not treble.
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the PSP isnt that bad, nintendo just struck gold with the DS

but for the first ever effort in the handheld market i doubt sony have many regrets

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still has better games then DS ... so who cares about software sales?

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It only has bad software sales because so many people pirate games on it. I bet if all those people who pirate games actually bought them instead then the sales would at least double if not treble.bobbetybob

Sales need more BASS, not treble :roll:

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They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.thrones

Basically what he said.

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They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.thrones
they took a large share from who? because the nintendo ds is the fastest selling handheld ever created. you see the mounds of games constantly announced for the ds. the GBA/GB didnt even had that kind of success. the psp still havent done what sony claim it was suppose to do. yeah, it manage to sell a good amound of console, but it fails to provide sales to its third parties, which basically makes it a failure.
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They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.thrones

The problem is that they really didn't take any thing from Nintendo though...the DS is a greater sucess than what Nintendo has had in the past and has more serious support behind it than previous handhelds (though part of that can be attributed to the cost of developing for home consoles which has rising again).

The PSP is only a faliure if Sony failed to get their foot in the door. When the next PSP comes around if Sony carries foward most of their fanbase then it is a sucess. If they essentially have to start from scratch again to win people over then the PSP would have been a painful learning excersize.

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They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.thrones
And? The Playstations brand is hardly small, it's not the Gizmondo we're talking about.
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Isn't it the only non Nintendo handheld to not die in a burning pile of wasted money?
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I've been finding myself playing the PSP much more than the DS. And my fav PSP game is third party (GTA:LCS).
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It only has bad software sales because so many people pirate games on it. I bet if all those people who pirate games actually bought them instead then the sales would at least double if not treble.bobbetybob

Basically. Some people fail to realize that the PSP is a beast with all the features.

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still has better games then DS ... so who cares about software sales?

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that made me laugh, because thats far from true.
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The PSP has gotten farther than any other handheld has against Nintendo. Without the PSP I don't think the DS would have been as good as it is today. The PSP actually did just as good, if not better than the DS in its first year. Nintendo got scared and upped the anti 10 fold. I really hope Sony or Microsoft has another handheld in the works because it's very healthy for the industry to have competition. Handhelds have a longer life and cost much less, so I find them at a much higher value than any console this gen.
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#16 thrones
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[QUOTE="humber_matus"]

still has better games then DS ... so who cares about software sales?

Rahnyc4

that made me laugh, because thats far from true.

For the core gamer who enjoys more traditional genres..it probably does :|

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#17 Luigi_Vincetana
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It only has bad software sales because so many people pirate games on it. I bet if all those people who pirate games actually bought them instead then the sales would at least double if not treble.bobbetybob
Probably not. Remember will Pirate games they would never spend money on. Also you must remember piracy is pretty bad for the DS too.
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I still prefer it over the DS. If you want to consider it a failure, then I'm calling Nintendo a blight on the industry.
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lol of course not, just like to cows the original xbox was a failure even though it came in 2nd and set the stage for the 360 to take a large amount of the ps2 user base away from the ps3, we cannot admit the psp was a failure right? cause hey it actually survived againest the DS and the GBA.

hypocracy!!!!

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Nah. Its cool.
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Isn't it the only non Nintendo handheld to not die in a burning pile of wasted money? pieatorium
its from sony. doesnt sony have other sectors that make money, other than gaming? that could be your reason why the handheld still around. the other companies didnt have that much money to sustain there console, not even sega.
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[QUOTE="thrones"]They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.Rahnyc4
they took a large share from who? because the nintendo ds is the fastest selling handheld ever created. you see the mounds of games constantly announced for the ds. the GBA/GB didnt even had that kind of success. the psp still havent done what sony claim it was suppose to do. yeah, it manage to sell a good amound of console, but it fails to provide sales to its third parties, which basically makes it a failure.

that was the point i was trying to make - sonys 1st entry in to the handheld market vs nintendos most succesful ever entry

you cant criticise sony for losing but you can commend them for what they achieved - decent sales and a few very good games

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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="humber_matus"]

still has better games then DS ... so who cares about software sales?

thrones

that made me laugh, because thats far from true.

For the core gamer who enjoys more traditional genres..it probably does :|

the psp does have better games, which would you rather play? Cooking mama and imagine vets? Or GTA VCS, SOCOM, GOW, MOH, COD and so on.

the psp is a MANS console, the DS is for little kids who are interested in pokemon. :P

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I've been finding myself playing the PSP much more than the DS. And my fav PSP game is third party (GTA:LCS).shaggygrosser
yeah? wonder why psp is losing all its exclusives? Hint: its not cause its games sell good.
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]It only has bad software sales because so many people pirate games on it. I bet if all those people who pirate games actually bought them instead then the sales would at least double if not treble.Luigi_Vincetana
Probably not. Remember will Pirate games they would never spend money on. Also you must remember piracy is pretty bad for the DS too.

Yeah but there are a large number of people that have DS's who are older people or young children, they don't know how to pirate do they, the majority of PSP's audience is between 12 and 30, which I'd suspect to be the main ages that use torrent sites etc.

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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="thrones"]They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.villa4europe

they took a large share from who? because the nintendo ds is the fastest selling handheld ever created. you see the mounds of games constantly announced for the ds. the GBA/GB didnt even had that kind of success. the psp still havent done what sony claim it was suppose to do. yeah, it manage to sell a good amound of console, but it fails to provide sales to its third parties, which basically makes it a failure.

that was the point i was trying to make - sonys 1st entry in to the handheld market vs nintendos most succesful ever entry

you cant criticise sony for losing but you can commend them for what they achieved - decent sales and a few very good games

using the sony playstation brand for them to gain instant success? they could of atleast took a risk and gave the portable a original name so it wouldnt be associated with the playstation brand. im not giving sony anything, since they came into the handheld market overly confident, as if everything they touch turns gold.
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="humber_matus"]

still has better games then DS ... so who cares about software sales?

NinjaMunkey01

that made me laugh, because thats far from true.

For the core gamer who enjoys more traditional genres..it probably does :|

the psp does have better games, which would you rather play? Cooking mama and imagine vets? Or GTA VCS, SOCOM, GOW, MOH, COD and so on.

the psp is a MANS console, the DS is for little kids who are interested in pokemon. :P

only exclusive game on the psp. anyway, you know the ds doesnt only have cook mama. the difference between the ds and the psp, is the ds has way more original games, that you wont even find anywhere else.
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[QUOTE="thrones"]They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.Rahnyc4
they took a large share from who? because the nintendo ds is the fastest selling handheld ever created. you see the mounds of games constantly announced for the ds. the GBA/GB didnt even had that kind of success. the psp still havent done what sony claim it was suppose to do. yeah, it manage to sell a good amound of console, but it fails to provide sales to its third parties, which basically makes it a failure.

You must be crazy, the PSP is doing everything Sony wanted it to do, share pictures, take pictures (Japan), GPS (Japan), MP3, movies, games, connect remotely to your PS3, web browers, and Skype and claim the PSP is not doing its thing? Sony know Nintendo is king of the handhelds.

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Nintendo quite litterally own the handheld market! Good attempt off sony though to put up competition! Ok its not a competition its a battering but still they attempted it.

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As a game system yeah its a failure. But Its functionalities like remote play are truely amazing.
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lol of course not, just like to cows the original xbox was a failure even though it came in 2nd and set the stage for the 360 to take a large amount of the ps2 user base away from the ps3, we cannot admit the psp was a failure right? cause hey it actually survived againest the DS and the GBA.

hypocracy!!!!

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Ever considered the cows last gen and the cows this gen may be totally different people?

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when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

Rahnyc4
can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="thrones"]They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.CubanBlunt

they took a large share from who? because the nintendo ds is the fastest selling handheld ever created. you see the mounds of games constantly announced for the ds. the GBA/GB didnt even had that kind of success. the psp still havent done what sony claim it was suppose to do. yeah, it manage to sell a good amound of console, but it fails to provide sales to its third parties, which basically makes it a failure.

You must be crazy, the PSP is doing everything Sony wanted it to do, share pictures, take pictures (Japan), GPS (Japan), MP3, movies, games, connect remotely to your PS3, web browers, and Skype and claim the PSP is not doing its thing? Sony know Nintendo is king of the handhelds.

"The PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto," said Kaz Hirai

you actually think the psp done everything sony expected it to do? if anything the nintendo ds took gaming out of the handheld ghetto, though i didnt think it was in a ghetto to begin with.
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[QUOTE="Luigi_Vincetana"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]It only has bad software sales because so many people pirate games on it. I bet if all those people who pirate games actually bought them instead then the sales would at least double if not treble.bobbetybob

Probably not. Remember will Pirate games they would never spend money on. Also you must remember piracy is pretty bad for the DS too.

Yeah but there are a large number of people that have DS's who are older people or young children, they don't know how to pirate do they, the majority of PSP's audience is between 12 and 30, which I'd suspect to be the main ages that use torrent sites etc.

It's not just DS owners who pirate DS games (Emus). Though yes it's only a very small percentage of the DS owning teens/young adults who would bother loading roms to a mass storage; you have to remember that a large number of kids - young adults will use PC emus (trust me, Kids know about emus too) whether they own a DS or not. Also pirated DS carts are easy to find in mainland Asia/Ebay.
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

too_much_eslim

can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

Overall: Yes it has been so far. Is it improving though that is the main question! I dont know the PSP 3rd party is though.

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#36 Rahnyc4
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

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can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

Rahnyc4
can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.

They are so good they make me want to go out and buy the game /sarcasm Please there isn't one worthwhile Third party that will set the gaming world on fire on the wii. there have been a couple for the psp.
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#38 pieatorium
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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="thrones"]They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.Rahnyc4

they took a large share from who? because the nintendo ds is the fastest selling handheld ever created. you see the mounds of games constantly announced for the ds. the GBA/GB didnt even had that kind of success. the psp still havent done what sony claim it was suppose to do. yeah, it manage to sell a good amound of console, but it fails to provide sales to its third parties, which basically makes it a failure.

You must be crazy, the PSP is doing everything Sony wanted it to do, share pictures, take pictures (Japan), GPS (Japan), MP3, movies, games, connect remotely to your PS3, web browers, and Skype and claim the PSP is not doing its thing? Sony know Nintendo is king of the handhelds.

"The PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto," said Kaz Hirai

you actually think the psp done everything sony expected it to do? if anything the nintendo ds took gaming out of the handheld ghetto, though i didnt think it was in a ghetto to begin with.

In the ghettoooo (in the ghetto)

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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"]

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="thrones"]They made a large entry into the handheld market, they took away a large share. Previous Nintendo handhelds had total domination, now they're actually challenged.Rahnyc4

they took a large share from who? because the nintendo ds is the fastest selling handheld ever created. you see the mounds of games constantly announced for the ds. the GBA/GB didnt even had that kind of success. the psp still havent done what sony claim it was suppose to do. yeah, it manage to sell a good amound of console, but it fails to provide sales to its third parties, which basically makes it a failure.

You must be crazy, the PSP is doing everything Sony wanted it to do, share pictures, take pictures (Japan), GPS (Japan), MP3, movies, games, connect remotely to your PS3, web browers, and Skype and claim the PSP is not doing its thing? Sony know Nintendo is king of the handhelds.

"The PSP will elevate portable entertainment out of the handheld gaming ghetto," said Kaz Hirai

you actually think the psp done everything sony expected it to do? if anything the nintendo ds took gaming out of the handheld ghetto, though i didnt think it was in a ghetto to begin with.

Use your own words, not someone elses.

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A flop of what it could have been yes but far from a failure. The PSP did take a huge marketshare from Nintendo and has lots of great games.
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="humber_matus"]

still has better games then DS ... so who cares about software sales?

NinjaMunkey01

that made me laugh, because thats far from true.

For the core gamer who enjoys more traditional genres..it probably does :|

the psp does have better games, which would you rather play? Cooking mama and imagine vets? Or GTA VCS, SOCOM, GOW, MOH, COD and so on.

the psp is a MANS console, the DS is for little kids who are interested in pokemon. :P

I know more adults with the DS than PSPs

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

Rahnyc4

can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.

you're kidding..right? if good third party support means tons and tons of horrible shoverlware and VERY FEW good games then I'm glad psp doesn't have that. I mean is that all you sheep care about it? "original games"? since most of these third party original wii games are terrible. oh and PSP had 2 games in latest NPD top10.

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A flop of what it could have been yes but far from a failure. The PSP did take a huge marketshare from Nintendo and has lots of great games.JLF1

Hmmm... You sure about that?

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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

too_much_eslim
can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.

They are so good they make me want to go out and buy the game /sarcasm Please there isn't one worthwhile Third party that will set the gaming world on fire on the wii. there have been a couple for the psp.

:lol: thats your opinion. the wii just had a couple of worth wild games, that cause people to run out and buy it and it still has a few in the future, that will continue to cause people to run out and buy it. i'll say the psp has nothing that, cause me to run out and buy a psp, since those games may end up on the ps2 anyway.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

Rahnyc4
can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.

They are so good they make me want to go out and buy the game /sarcasm Please there isn't one worthwhile Third party that will set the gaming world on fire on the wii. there have been a couple for the psp.

:lol: thats your opinion. the wii just had a couple of worth wild games, that cause people to run out and buy it and it still has a few in the future, that will continue to cause people to run out and buy it. i'll say the psp has nothing that, cause me to run out and buy a psp, since those games may end up on the ps2 anyway.

obviously you are talking about first party
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I'm a techy person, I like features. I can do a lot more with the PSP then I can with the DS, so for me its PSP all day.
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Nah thats ok, In my books I would totally prefer a PSP over a DS, there isn't one game that would tempt me to buy a DS
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

Rahnyc4
can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.



Good third party support on Wii without ports and remakes:

Zack and Wiki
No More Heroes

Yeah the tons of great games there.

Easily countered with Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core and Crush.
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[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

qewrewq

can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.

you're kidding..right? if good third party support means tons and tons of horrible shoverlware and VERY FEW good games then I'm glad psp doesn't have that. I mean is that all you sheep care about it? "original games"? since most of these third party original wii games are terrible. oh and PSP had 2 games in latest NPD top10.

so how many good exclusive psp games are there? like 6? yeah, the wii has shovelware, but do does any big successful gaming machine. hell the ds has shovelware as well, the ps2 has also. the fact is the wii does have great exclusive titles for it, not including anything from wiiware. the bold comment also helps my argument a bit, which basically prevent piracy as being a good argument as to why psp games arent selling.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]

when it actually comes to third party support now? i mean seriously, whats coming out in the future? it seems as if support for the psp is actually dropping and dropping which each new year. sony basically screwed itself by making it a all in one media device, which is whats actually killing the handheld.

hardware sales are decent, but software sales are exteremly lackluster around the world. yeah, psp has a charted game in the top 20 japanese games sold, but its only 2 games? for a console that sold 9 million in japan? for example the wii has sold less than the psp, yet it has 6 wii games in the top 20 and i wont even mention the Ds.

the fact that the psp has poor software sales is a reason why a lot of western developers are backing out on supporting the psp, which basically proves that the psp is actually a failure. you wanna call the gamecube a failure, cause it didnt sell that many games for the console? well the psp is a failure as well, if not worst than the gamecube when it comes to games, since psp games sells far worst than gamecube games. on the plus side. the psp is selling well, but the software sales blows.

bad software sales = bad games. psp's 2009?


note to self sony: innovation doesnt come from how much media playback you stuff into your handheld, but how new and fresh you can make your handheld when it comes to gaming. next time i hope sony can focus on making the psp2 a more gaming device than anything else, instead of shoe horning all funtional media device into there handheld expecting it to sell.

Rahnyc4

can we admit the wii is a failure then in third party support?

that made me laugh, because the wii is actually getting good third party support and actually getting more original content thats only exclusive to its console as well. so no the wii isn't a failure. ill go and say its pretty far from a failure, since its games actually appear on the top 20 gaming charts, compare to the psp.

I wonder how many of those 20 top games in gaming charts are first party Nintendo titles, cause I highly doubt Ninjabread man is up there.

Before you even respond take this point of adive, get over yourself. You have this dillusional idea that Sony must be Hemeroging money on the PSP when you have no proof to show that the PSP is actually not making profit...Why would Sony support a system thats costing them money rather than making it? Wether they have pockets full of cash they would not use it to support a "Failed" System...so that leaves one logical conclusion Sony is doing fine in the handheld market just because it's not a DS does not make it a failure, I personally prefer my PSP over the DS due to a good ratio of good games to crap games.

The DS suffers much like the Wii where it has awesome games...but then a load of **** till the next great game.

So again get over yourself until you can actually proove something besides blindly trying to call the PSP "The only system to ever stand up to Nintendo in the handheld market and make profit" a failure, I'm sure Sony gaming revenue would love to disagree with you. The PSP would just not be worth supporting if it had 0 prospect at generating revenue, while I'm sure Nintendo is swimming in cashvaults full of cash from the DS I doubt Sony is wallowing in poverty.