Can we finally admit the Wii U is last generation now?

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

The CEO of the biggest game company in the world?

GD1551

The CEO of Nintendo said the Wii U is last generation?

But even then EA isn't the biggest third-party video game company.

Activision/Blizzard is, and after them is Nexon, and after them is Zynga.

EA comes in at #5

rotflol,  the wiiu has 2 gigs of ram , xbox360 only has 512mb ,  xbox360 also uses inferior disc drive-dvd9 vs a high density 50 gig nintendo oem optical disc 

a new touch screen controller, with all the bells and whistles of a 360 controller plus a ds and motion all into one ,

even the kenict like front facing camera now you tell me thats last gen to you in fact it does not use a disc drive ,

and you can use external hard drives of up to 3 tb whats 360s highest-without modification voiding warranty----320 gigs ,

tell me wiiu is not next gen when it also has a specail gpu/cpu ,

that take the load off processor allowing for low power consumption and look at need for speed most wanted -vs ps3 360 

and you tell me its last gen 

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

If you don't know what a generation is sure. Otherwise, no lol.

GD1551

What is a generation?

I'll just define what a gaming generation is to you so we don't have our time wasted because I'm not really into playing games with you. Generations in gaming are defined by the period in which new major hardware is released to succeed the pevious major hardware released by the 1st party developers. Thus this generation started with the release of the 3DS, followed by the Vita and then the WiiU and the PS4 and nextbox this holiday. As the GBA, NGC, Xobx, PS2  generation was the sixth and the past generation of releases were the 7th, any hardware succeeding the 7th gen is classified as 8th generation. It has nothing to do with power, nothing at all.

The damage control for the wiiu is pathetic, What is wrong with you peoplem you will defend anything nintendo as long as you can play mario huh? Your like a bunch of childern, oh wait, thats exactly who nintendo caters to these days. There is no reasoning with kids.

Nope, it's next-gen. Just because the graphics aren't as impressive as the PS4, it is the successor to the Wii therefore it is next-gen.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

If you don't know what a generation is sure. Otherwise, no lol.

ActicEdge

What is a generation?

I'll just define what a gaming generation is to you so we don't have our time wasted because I'm not really into playing games with you. Generations in gaming are defined by the period in which new major hardware is released to succeed the pevious major hardware released by the 1st party developers. Thus this generation started with the release of the 3DS, followed by the Vita and then the WiiU and the PS4 and nextbox this holiday. As the GBA, NGC, Xobx, PS2  generation was the sixth and the past generation of releases were the 7th, any hardware succeeding the 7th gen is classified as 8th generation. It has nothing to do with power, nothing at all.

EA says that's their definition of it, reading it they're not saying that's THE definition of it. Capcom doesn't say it's not, they're talking about waiting until the more powerful consoles come out, not saying that the WiiU isn't next gen. The last one doesn't even give a clear yes or no, they say no and then say yes. Patcher just says No.soulitane

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

The CEO of the biggest game company in the world?

GD1551

There is no debate, just you being wrong lol. A generation is defined by time. Capcom, EA etc can say whatever they want, they don''t get to rewrite history or how it works. Hell, EA defined generations based on 3D which in itself is wrong.

The damage control for the wiiu is pathetic, What is wrong with you peoplem you will defend anything nintendo as long as you can play mario huh? Your like a bunch of childern, oh wait, thats exactly who nintendo caters to these days. There is no reasoning with kids.

Advid-Gamer

[QUOTE="BlueVigor"]

I think the fact that the PS3 and 360 being more powerful than the WiiU already confirmed that.

Link3301

Too bad that's not a fact.

Too bad you can not prove other wise. The WiiU looks like a child's toy, but Nintendo is a TOY company. No one over the age of 17 should be such HUGE Nintendo fans. I still enjoy Zelda, but theur are better options.

But even then EA isn't the biggest third-party video game company.

Activision/Blizzard is, and after them is Nexon, and after them is Zynga.

EA comes in at #5

Ly_the_Fairy

Which list are you looking at? Either way, EA is still one of the largest in the world, so it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] EA says that's their definition of it, reading it they're not saying that's THE definition of it. Capcom doesn't say it's not, they're talking about waiting until the more powerful consoles come out, not saying that the WiiU isn't next gen. The last one doesn't even give a clear yes or no, they say no and then say yes. Patcher just says No.ActicEdge

There is no debate, just you being wrong lol. A generation is defined by time. Capcom, EA etc can say whatever they want, they don''t get to rewrite history or how it works. Hell, EA defined generations based on 3D which in itself is wrong.

Authority on this?

The damage control for the wiiu is pathetic, What is wrong with you peoplem you will defend anything nintendo as long as you can play mario huh? Your like a bunch of childern, oh wait, thats exactly who nintendo caters to these days. There is no reasoning with kids.

Advid-Gamer

I'm just not an idiot who wants to rewrite history. Clearly you are though which you have proven repeatedly.

Nope, it's next-gen. Just because the graphics aren't as impressive as the PS4, it is the successor to the Wii therefore it is next-gen.

PhazonBlazer

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="GD1551"] As for capcom, they took the wait and see approach, and now that they have seen I'm sure they think it's not. If the Wii U was in the same ball park as the PS4 this debate wouldn't even come up.Cranler

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

If you don't know what a generation is sure. Otherwise, no lol.

ActicEdge

What is a generation?

I'll just define what a gaming generation is to you so we don't have our time wasted because I'm not really into playing games with you. Generations in gaming are defined by the period in which new major hardware is released to succeed the pevious major hardware released by the 1st party developers. Thus this generation started with the release of the 3DS, followed by the Vita and then the WiiU and the PS4 and nextbox this holiday. As the GBA, NGC, Xobx, PS2  generation was the sixth and the past generation of releases were the 7th, any hardware succeeding the 7th gen is classified as 8th generation. It has nothing to do with power, nothing at all.

So the 3DS was when next gen started? So why are some people saying the Wii U?

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

The damage control for the wiiu is pathetic, What is wrong with you peoplem you will defend anything nintendo as long as you can play mario huh? Your like a bunch of childern, oh wait, thats exactly who nintendo caters to these days. There is no reasoning with kids.

ActicEdge

I'm just not an idiot who wants to rewrite history. Clearly you are though which you have proven repeatedly.

[QUOTE="Link3301"]

[QUOTE="BlueVigor"]

I think the fact that the PS3 and 360 being more powerful than the WiiU already confirmed that.

BlueVigor

Too bad that's not a fact.

Too bad you can not prove other wise. The WiiU looks like a child's toy, but Nintendo is a TOY company. No one over the age of 17 should be such HUGE Nintendo fans. I still enjoy Zelda, but theur are better options.

And yet Nintendo has some of the highest rated games of all time ;)

The generation a game console belongs in should be determined by the games its capable of playing.

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

Nope, it's next-gen. Just because the graphics aren't as impressive as the PS4, it is the successor to the Wii therefore it is next-gen.

Cranler

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

The damage control for the wiiu is pathetic, What is wrong with you peoplem you will defend anything nintendo as long as you can play mario huh? Your like a bunch of childern, oh wait, thats exactly who nintendo caters to these days. There is no reasoning with kids.

kingtito

Discredit the WiiU? The WiiU is not at all impressive. Its funny that people are down playing the PS4 which is not even out yet and the WiiU dispite being out and seeing what is to come is not anything special. Not even an original Zelda game or 3D Mario game in the near future.Really Smash Bros should have launched with the console and the gamepad is useless with devs not even supporting it or the WiiU at all. EA just pulled their support of the console, but youa re going to sit here and deny that the Wiiu looks really bad? OK!

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

Nope, it's next-gen. Just because the graphics aren't as impressive as the PS4, it is the successor to the Wii therefore it is next-gen.

kingtito

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"] As for capcom, they took the wait and see approach, and now that they have seen I'm sure they think it's not. If the Wii U was in the same ball park as the PS4 this debate wouldn't even come up.

GD1551

There is no debate, just you being wrong lol. A generation is defined by time. Capcom, EA etc can say whatever they want, they don''t get to rewrite history or how it works. Hell, EA defined generations based on 3D which in itself is wrong.

Authority on this?

Because basing a generation of anything on anything other than time makes no sense at all? Generations of basketball players aren't defined on skill, generations of pokemon cards aren't based on usefulness of the cards or power, generations of CEO aren't based on success. They are all based on being the successor to the previous lineage and its the same for consoles. Why are you trying so hard?

Look in Webster.

If the official definition isn't enough, then I don't know what would be.

If I remember correctly, we tend to go by the original definitions for things. Even with multiple definitions they all are still fairly absolute on their meanings.

Nowhere in there does it say anything about an advantageous evolution of anything when it comes to tech. You can imply it, but you can never say its there.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

What is a generation?

GD1551

I'll just define what a gaming generation is to you so we don't have our time wasted because I'm not really into playing games with you. Generations in gaming are defined by the period in which new major hardware is released to succeed the pevious major hardware released by the 1st party developers. Thus this generation started with the release of the 3DS, followed by the Vita and then the WiiU and the PS4 and nextbox this holiday. As the GBA, NGC, Xobx, PS2  generation was the sixth and the past generation of releases were the 7th, any hardware succeeding the 7th gen is classified as 8th generation. It has nothing to do with power, nothing at all.

So the 3DS was when next gen started? So why are some people saying the Wii U?

Because a new generation handhelds and a new generation consoles don't necessarily fall under the same gen because handhelds have weird lifespans.

Gameboy lasted for over a decade spanning 2 console gens, GBA lasted for 3 years before DS released.

3DS and Vita are definitely 8th gen systems and 3DS kicked off the 8th gen.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

What is a generation?

GD1551

I'll just define what a gaming generation is to you so we don't have our time wasted because I'm not really into playing games with you. Generations in gaming are defined by the period in which new major hardware is released to succeed the pevious major hardware released by the 1st party developers. Thus this generation started with the release of the 3DS, followed by the Vita and then the WiiU and the PS4 and nextbox this holiday. As the GBA, NGC, Xobx, PS2  generation was the sixth and the past generation of releases were the 7th, any hardware succeeding the 7th gen is classified as 8th generation. It has nothing to do with power, nothing at all.

So the 3DS was when next gen started? So why are some people saying the Wii U?

Because they're wrong? It has nothing to do with power, I don't get why people have this so screwed up. Anyone thinking next gen started with the WiiU is also incorrect.

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

The damage control for the wiiu is pathetic, What is wrong with you peoplem you will defend anything nintendo as long as you can play mario huh? Your like a bunch of childern, oh wait, thats exactly who nintendo caters to these days. There is no reasoning with kids.

BlueVigor

Discredit the WiiU? The WiiU is not at all impressive. Its funny that people are down playing the PS4 which is not even out yet and the WiiU dispite being out and seeing what is to come is not anything special. Not even an original Zelda game or 3D Mario game in the near future.Really Smash Bros should have launched with the console and the gamepad is useless with devs not even supporting it or the WiiU at all. EA just pulled their support of the console, but youa re going to sit here and deny that the Wiiu looks really bad? OK!

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I'll just define what a gaming generation is to you so we don't have our time wasted because I'm not really into playing games with you. Generations in gaming are defined by the period in which new major hardware is released to succeed the pevious major hardware released by the 1st party developers. Thus this generation started with the release of the 3DS, followed by the Vita and then the WiiU and the PS4 and nextbox this holiday. As the GBA, NGC, Xobx, PS2  generation was the sixth and the past generation of releases were the 7th, any hardware succeeding the 7th gen is classified as 8th generation. It has nothing to do with power, nothing at all.

ActicEdge

So the 3DS was when next gen started? So why are some people saying the Wii U?

Because they're wrong? It has nothing to do with power, I don't get why people have this so screwed up. Anyone thinking next gen started with the WiiU is also incorrect.

:lol: No one thinks that it did. Even the sheep that defend it.

WHAT THE HELL DOES DAMAGE CONTROL MEAN ANYWAY?faizan_faizan

In this case not damage control but being misinformed or pretending to be misinformed for your so called damage control. Big difference.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="soulitane"]So in other words, assumption? Also, to whoever said the TV thing, not the same, new TV sku's come out all the time, consoles do not.kingtito

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

So the 3DS was when next gen started? So why are some people saying the Wii U?

Advid-Gamer

Because they're wrong? It has nothing to do with power, I don't get why people have this so screwed up. Anyone thinking next gen started with the WiiU is also incorrect.

:lol: No one thinks that it did. Even the sheep that defend it.

Yeah cause it started with the 3DS.

WilliamRLbAKER IN DA HOUSE!!!!!

WHAT THE HELL DOES DAMAGE CONTROL MEAN ANYWAY?faizan_faizan

it means Nintendo fanboys are covering for the mediocre WiiU like the did for the past 3 Nintendo consoles that failed to deliver. man I miss the SNES Nintendo.

Because basing a generation of anything on anything other than time makes no sense at all? Generations of basketball players aren't defined on skill, generations of pokemon cards aren't based on usefulness of the cards or power, generations of CEO aren't based on success. They are all based on being the successor to the previous lineage and its the same for consoles. Why are you trying so hard?

ActicEdge

I'm not trying hard at all, because console generations have always been defined by increasing hardware capabilities. As I said earlier this was never an issue before the Wii because most consoles were in the same ballpark of power, but with the Wii and Wii U the issues arises. If a 1960 camry was built exactly like how it was in 1960, today.. would you consider it a modern car?

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Cranler"] So if Sega got back into the console business and launched a uber console that destroys ps 4 it would be 7th gen then? It would be the successor to their 6th gen Dreamcast. What about a newcomer? Would theirs be a 1st gen console?Advid-Gamer

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Because they're wrong? It has nothing to do with power, I don't get why people have this so screwed up. Anyone thinking next gen started with the WiiU is also incorrect.

ActicEdge

:lol: No one thinks that it did. Even the sheep that defend it.

Yeah cause it started with the 3DS.

Look in Webster.

If the official definition isn't enough, then I don't know what would be.

If I remember correctly, we tend to go by the original definitions for things. Even with multiple definitions they all are still fairly absolute on their meanings.

Nowhere in there does it say anything about an advantageous evolution of anything when it comes to tech. You can imply it, but you can never say its there.

AznbkdX

next-generation

adjective[before noun]

Definition

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

 

 

:lol: No one thinks that it did. Even the sheep that defend it.

Advid-Gamer

Yeah cause it started with the 3DS.

There is no difference, you're clueless.

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Cranler"] New console skus come out too. Theirs been at least 4 360 skus that have different size hdd's and some have wifi. Cranler

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] The time frame of release date will also determine the generation. is it really that hard for you to grasp? Power has NOTHING to do with determining a consoles generation and never has.kingtito

You were last place deal with it. No miraculous comeback guesstamation by outside idiots will change it either.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Because basing a generation of anything on anything other than time makes no sense at all? Generations of basketball players aren't defined on skill, generations of pokemon cards aren't based on usefulness of the cards or power, generations of CEO aren't based on success. They are all based on being the successor to the previous lineage and its the same for consoles. Why are you trying so hard?

GD1551

I'm not trying hard at all, because console generations have always been defined by increasing hardware capabilities. As I said earlier this was never an issue before the Wii because most consoles were in the same ballpark of power, but with the Wii and Wii U the issues arises. If a 1960 camry was built exactly like how it was in 1960, today.. would you consider it a modern car?

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Yeah cause it started with the 3DS.

ActicEdge

There is no difference, you're clueless.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]No, it's not determined by power. GD1551

Then what is it determined by? It seems quite clear at least to the industry, that it's determined by capabilities of the system.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Because basing a generation of anything on anything other than time makes no sense at all? Generations of basketball players aren't defined on skill, generations of pokemon cards aren't based on usefulness of the cards or power, generations of CEO aren't based on success. They are all based on being the successor to the previous lineage and its the same for consoles. Why are you trying so hard?

kingtito

I'm not trying hard at all, because console generations have always been defined by increasing hardware capabilities. As I said earlier this was never an issue before the Wii because most consoles were in the same ballpark of power, but with the Wii and Wii U the issues arises. If a 1960 camry was built exactly like how it was in 1960, today.. would you consider it a modern car?

Except the U uses 10 year old parts.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]WHAT THE HELL DOES DAMAGE CONTROL MEAN ANYWAY?BlueVigor

it means Nintendo fanboys are covering for the mediocre WiiU like the did for the past 3 Nintendo consoles that failed to deliver. man I miss the SNES Nintendo.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]No, it's not determined by power. delta3074

Then what is it determined by? It seems quite clear at least to the industry, that it's determined by capabilities of the system.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

There is no debate, just you being wrong lol. A generation is defined by time. Capcom, EA etc can say whatever they want, they don''t get to rewrite history or how it works. Hell, EA defined generations based on 3D which in itself is wrong.

Authority on this?

Because basing a generation of anything on anything other than time makes no sense at all? Generations of basketball players aren't defined on skill, generations of pokemon cards aren't based on usefulness of the cards or power, generations of CEO aren't based on success. They are all based on being the successor to the previous lineage and its the same for consoles. Why are you trying so hard?

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] Your a idiot, consoles are been generally equal in power for as long as I can remember till the wii, and now the wiiu. Post is fail.Advid-Gamer