Casey's Guide to not getting Moderated

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#502 ferolune
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casey is out to get me. i swear i've been moderated for the most ridiculous reasons.

so because i'm supposeldly a ban dodger he's moderating me for every little thing. so every new user = ban dodger. :roll: nice work.

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#503 organic_machine
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casey is out to get me. i swear i've been moderated for the most ridiculous reasons.

so because i'm supposeldly a ban dodger he's moderating me for every little thing. so every new user = ban dodger. :roll: nice work.

ferolune

they can see your IP adress and every username that used it, you know. you're only bringing attention to the fact that someone using your adress was banned. which more than likely means that you're ban dodging.

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#504 CaseyWegner
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Why can people post sales without mentioning the PC? Why is that NOT trolling, but not mentioning the PC in a debate is?Heil68

blame npd for not including pc sales.

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#505 CaseyWegner
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casey is out to get me. i swear i've been moderated for the most ridiculous reasons.

so because i'm supposeldly a ban dodger he's moderating me for every little thing. so every new user = ban dodger. :roll: nice work.

ferolune

ban dodgers get banned on sight. i don't even know who you are but i'm going to look into it now.

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#506 thew13
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[QUOTE="thew13"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="thew13"]

No to your question, the statement is basically saying exactly what I shave been saying - it come down to the 'judges' and their opinion. -- and it's especially bad when differnet opinions can lead todifferent rules(if it works like you say it does).

My whole point is everybody finds something insulting - when we get down to nitpicking over little things that aren't mormally considered 'insultin' I think it gets a little ridiculous.

So once again we are arguing Semantics, which in this case comes down to personal opinions which apparently aren't going to change on thsi subject. Why keep saying the same thing over and over?

organic_machine

you keep thinking that my point is "semantics," when I am only using that to make another point. I keep repeating that because you don't seem to get it. my point, crystal clear: no internet forums are ever going to be fair. they are either going to be too restrictive or too lenient. the last thing gs wants is a forum full of obscenities and racial slurs. yes, you got modded. i probably wouldn't have modded you, but you did regardless. the fact is, even if that is technically unfair, the alternative is worse. to make an omlet, you gotta break a few eggs; and in this case you are the egg. sorry you got modded, but that is how things are. like i said, its better than a forum full of obscenities and racial slurs.

I'm not arguing the point. I asked Casey - he said it was and it was the end of the story - you then chirped in to mention the way around was to call the post illogical. My comment was it's the same thing. Who doesn't seem to get it?

i've never gotten modded for calling a post illogical, have i? nope. thats my point. you can say it's the "same thing" all you want, but the rules say otherwise. put this issue to rest. i've tried to give input to make things clear to you and you've done nothing except not listen. give it a rest. now you know the rules and this isn't a complaint forum. good day, sir.

Clueless- now there's a movie I don't like. Never was a Alicia Silverstone fan.

Uh.. sorry back to the point. Don't know if you say you haven't then you haven't. I don't care. It was put to bed - then you piped in with a way to use illogical without being modded - great I'm happy you got around it - good for you.

Listneing to your input is liking getting a speeding ticket and then having another driver tell me a radar detector will help. Great I know, but I decided not to speed instead.

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#507 Bgrngod
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Can we at least get a warning for our very first violation in 7 years before loosing a level? :(
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#508 CaseyWegner
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Can we at least get a warning for our very first violation in 7 years before loosing a level? :(Bgrngod

the two stickied threads and the forum header count as the warning.

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#509 Bgrngod
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[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]Can we at least get a warning for our very first violation in 7 years before loosing a level? :(CaseyWegner

the two stickied threads and the forum header count as the warning.

Dinging a whole level for having 6 quotes seems a bit excessive.

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#510 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]Can we at least get a warning for our very first violation in 7 years before loosing a level? :(Bgrngod

the two stickied threads and the forum header count as the warning.

Dinging a whole level for having 6 quotes seems a bit excessive.

What does the difference between level 26 and 27 mean again?
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#511 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]Can we at least get a warning for our very first violation in 7 years before loosing a level? :(Bgrngod

the two stickied threads and the forum header count as the warning.

Dinging a whole level for having 6 quotes seems a bit excessive.

it was a point loss that just happened to drop your level.

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#512 Bgrngod
Member since 2002 • 5766 Posts
it was a point loss that just happened to drop your level.CaseyWegner

So it's not a full level ding, just a portion of one?

What does the difference between level 26 and 27 mean again?Jandurin

It means I'm not level 27 anymore. I'm level 26 :| I like my levels.

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#513 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

So it's not a full level ding, just a portion of one?

Bgrngod

yep. i can't reveal how much though.

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#514 JiveT
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Hey how about it can I say GOD60 but not Waitstation3? The one is positive the other is negative. Or should I just stick to calling them 360 and PS3? lol

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#515 CaseyWegner
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Hey how about it can I say GOD60 but not Waitstation3? The one is positive the other is negative. Or should I just stick to calling them 360 and PS3? lol

JiveT

i'd just call them what they are. that won't annoy anybody.

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#516 themagicbum9720
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will i get moderated if i get on my account from another computer, because of its different IP address?

it might sound a little noobish but school is coming up soon, and i usually get on GS most of the time there.

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#517 Bgrngod
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will i get moderated if i get on my account from another computer, because of its different IP address?

it might sound a little noobish but school is coming up soon, and i usually get on GS most of the time there.

themagicbum9720

No you won't. I do it all the time. Gamespot has no interest in locking access to their website to only one computer per user. That would be foolish.

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#518 cakeorrdeath
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No you can use your account from any computer you want. Though using a computer associated with a banned/suspended account is a bad idea.
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#519 the_hitman_guy
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Is calling somebody a noob considered abusive?
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#520 themagicbum9720
Member since 2007 • 6536 Posts
[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"]

will i get moderated if i get on my account from another computer, because of its different IP address?

it might sound a little noobish but school is coming up soon, and i usually get on GS most of the time there.

Bgrngod

No you won't. I do it all the time. Gamespot has no interest in locking access to their website to only one computer per user. That would be foolish.

ok...thanks

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#521 shivaskunk9mm
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is it possible to get some sort of link with the notice as to what was a sticky violation? if not is there a way to get a more specific reason? simply saying "ignored sticky thread" isn't helping when after reading though them all, i still can't understand exactly what i did..
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#522 Bgrngod
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is it possible to get some sort of link with the notice as to what was a sticky violation? if not is there a way to get a more specific reason? simply saying "ignored sticky thread" isn't helping when after reading though them all, i still can't understand exactly what i did..shivaskunk9mm

It is probably ignoring a sticky thread about a specific topic. If there is a stick that says "Official Halo 3 hype thread - keep it here" then you need to post all discussions about that game in that thread. this prevents there from being 500+ new threads flooding the forum about the same topic when significant news comes out about a game.

There are usually 1-2 of these types of threads at any given time that are stickied.

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#523 shivaskunk9mm
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the thread dealt with a specific issue about one of the consoles.. i posted it because i hadn't seen it much (if at all) on the forums before.. just want to get an idea of what i did so i don't post more unneccesary topics..
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#524 CaseyWegner
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the thread dealt with a specific issue about one of the consoles.. i posted it because i hadn't seen it much (if at all) on the forums before.. just want to get an idea of what i did so i don't post more unneccesary topics.. shivaskunk9mm

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25809051

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#527 Willy105
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I have a question.

For the 100th edit for the Metroid thread I wanted to have something special.

The guys over there told me to post this:

Donatos wrote:

Man, I wasn't going to post about this...

Like a lot of other people, I was kind of surprised to see the 8.5, especially given IGN's review and the seeming consensus that this is a top-notch game, and probably Wii's finest thus far. But, hey -- I respect a diversity of opinion, and anyways, most people are right: no sense in whining about the score a game gets when we haven't even played it yet. Right?

But then I read the review and... boy, it submarines this game! I'm sure you've heard the expression "damned by faint praise." The idea being that if you call something "fairly good," "decent," or "passable" it has the same negative effect (and sometimes stronger) than calling it "bad." Well the idea of "faint praise" is too strong for this review. It reads almost as though the reviewer wants the game to fail. Conspiracy-theory much? Yeah, I don't want to go down that road, but let's take a look:

The game is an 8.5, right? That's a high score. Should mean that this is a very good game, right? It is, after all, "a high-quality continuation of the series" with "terrific and intuitive" controls. Now... if this is a high-quality continuation of a series that has thus far scored 9.7 and 9.1, it should be pretty darned good. Yet the remainder of the opening paragraph -- more than half -- starts to run negative, saying that the game "does exactly what you expect it to do, no more and no less." Hmm...

The second paragraph digs in hard, comparing this game to its lauded progenitor: "{w}hile Metroid Prime spectacularly ushered Metroid gameplay into a 3D vision, Corruption is content to be a solid successor." "Content" makes the designers sound lazy, and "solid" isn't a very enthusiastic description. Are 8.5s "solid"? Then, the reviewer assures us that "{we} shouldn't let some spurts of predictability dissuade you from checking it out"... well, I should hope not if it's an 8.5... I mean, that's really good, right? "Terrific and intuitive" controls, right? I mean, why does the reviewer start to sense that his review of this 8.5 game might dissuade us from even checking it out? But he can't even let it rest there... not just anyone should check this out, but "particularly if you are a Metroid enthusiast." Here the review starts to insinuate that the game is good, not just for people who enjoy games like Prime, but for those who are specifically Metroid-people. "Enthusiasts," which is a not-too-subtle euphemism for Fanboys.

The reviewer seemingly cannot compliment the game without immediately following up with some sort of an insult or criticism. Check out this from the fourth paragraph: "The obvious change here is in the controls, and Corruption leaves behind the methodical maneuvering of its GameCube brethren with an intuitive and configurable scheme that sets the standard for first-person shooting controls on the Wii, despite Corruption's battles not being all that challenging." Good God, what a sentence. First, he cheapshots the GameCube with its "methodical maneuvering"... which... I guess... would be roughly equivalent to the methodical maneuvering currently found on all the other consoles, right? Then, he states that this control set-up "sets the standard...on the Wii"! Excuse me, but... why the modifier? Consensus seems to be that this control set-up "sets the standard" period. For the 360. For the PS3. For all of them. Then, and despite the fact that it doesn't strictly relate to the quality of the controls, he ends the sentence by slighting the game's challenge. I won't count them all out to you, but I dare you to comb through the article and take a look at the "compliments" -- they almostalways go hand-in-hand with a slight.

Not that the reviewer needs the excuse of balancing a compliment to slam the game. In the third paragraph, in referencing the idea that the reviewer doesn't plan on spoiling us, he takes a gratuitous pot shot: "(Not that the Prime games have ever strived to set standards for gaming fiction.) " Well, great. What does that mean? That the story's weak? No -- the reviewer wouldn't go so far; his goal is, apparently, to make his review seem positive while infusing it with insults and complaints.

All in all, we learn that the control scheme "{has} been done before, of course," that the game is "without a sense of challenge," and that it is too much a FPS (apparently due to the smooth controls) which "keep{s} it from being as special as the other Prime titles." Indeed, that "Corruption loses some of its sense of wonder and strangeness on the Wii. Rather than being a true action adventure, it's hard to lose the sense that it's merely an FPS with trimmings."

Wow. Now... how do we reconcile the idea that it's lost its "sense of wonder" when the game "features superb art direction, so every level is even more incredible to explore than the last"? Or that it's no longer a "true action adventure" when "you'll need to use your wits as much as you use weapons that turn alien scum into goo" and "{e}nvironmental puzzles are generally as good in Corruption as they've ever been"? Furthermore, how do we reconcile any of these serious criticisms with such a high score?

I guess it doesn't matter, that we don't have to worry ourselves about it, because "any fan ought to enjoy this outing in spite of those quibbles" {read "fan" as Metroid enthusiast}, "[t]he exotic worlds of Corruption will excite series fans" and "{i}f you're a Metroid fan, there's no need to convince you to play Metroid Prime 3: Corruption." In other words, the reviewer is saying that Metroid Fanboys will like this game no matter what...

...but the true point of this review is: if you're not already a "series fan," then despite the 8.5, you don't really need to bother with it.

The review is muddled, self-contradictory, and worse: against my better judgment, I walk away thinking that it sets out to intentionally sabotage the game that it purports to praise (remember: 8.5 is "high"). I don't know why; I can't fathom motive; but it's in the review, if you read it carefully.

I know it's been said before, but, do we even have to speculate that, when Halo 3 comes out, its reviewer will talk about how the game "feels familiar"? Or how Halo's controls don't match up to the industry leader (Metroid Prime 3, for the Wii), as Wii reviews nearly always mention how the graphics just can't compare to those of other systems? Will we be told that it's been "done before"?Of course not. We know Halo 3's review won't have any of that. Maybe this isn't a double standard. But, if it's not a double standard, then I guess I just don't know what "double standard" means.

I wanna post it but I feel I should ask you first.

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#529 the_hitman_guy
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Yo, Casey, is it alright to call somebody a n00b?
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#530 CaseyWegner
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Yo, Casey, is it alright to call somebody a n00b?the_hitman_guy

nope.

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#531 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Not to complain, but there are 9 stickied threads in this forum. I think it would be quite easy to miss one of them while scanning through them. The Blue Dragon one was a little hard to see, and I could easily envision someone making a new topic about it without realizing there was a sticky. Any leniency for that?
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#532 xscrapzx
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Casey I was just wondering, I just got modded for saying "Can have your crystal ball? :roll: and I got modded for censor bypassing? I mean am I just not understanding. Can you explain this to me?
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#533 CaseyWegner
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Casey I was just wondering, I just got modded for saying "Can have your crystal ball? :roll: and I got modded for censor bypassing? I mean am I just not understanding. Can you explain this to me?xscrapzx

looks more like a mislabelled "disruptive posting" since your post came up blank. it's a bug but you're still responsible for your posts because you're taken right to it after it's been posted. if it's blank, editing the post and writing your original message again should fix it.

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#534 uglyduck-uk
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Casey is correct - it was a mouse wheel error! Should have been disruptive as stated.
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#535 xscrapzx
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Casey I was just wondering, I just got modded for saying "Can have your crystal ball? :roll: and I got modded for censor bypassing? I mean am I just not understanding. Can you explain this to me?CaseyWegner

looks more like a mislabelled "disruptive posting" since your post came up blank. it's a bug but you're still responsible for your posts because you're taken right to it after it's been posted. if it's blank, editing the post and writing your original message again should fix it.

Thanks

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#536 depresedmichfan
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hey,

what happened to the defective hardware thread? am i blind or is it not there anymore?

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#537 CaseyWegner
Member since 2002 • 70152 Posts

hey,

what happened to the defective hardware thread? am i blind or is it not there anymore?

depresedmichfan

i took it down. there are a lot of stickies right now and things about that issue have died down enough that it's not really needed anymore.

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#538 FusionApex
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Would it be possible to stop people from saying that one consoles multiplat will be better than the others.People don't really know, and the chances are they'll probably be the same unless proof is released (Madden 200 8).

That emoticon won't go away.

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#539 Bgrngod
Member since 2002 • 5766 Posts

Casey is correct - it was a mouse wheel error! Should have been disruptive as stated.uglyduck-uk

Wait what? My mouse wheel is why I have to retype half my threads? (I've gotten in the habit of copying them all to my clipboard before hitting submit, but they always come up blank when I forget to copy)

Is there a trick to avoiding this error?

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#540 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="uglyduck-uk"]Casey is correct - it was a mouse wheel error! Should have been disruptive as stated.Bgrngod

Wait what? My mouse wheel is why I have to retype half my threads? (I've gotten in the habit of copying them all to my clipboard before hitting submit, but they always come up blank when I forget to copy)

Is there a trick to avoiding this error?

no. the "reason for moderation" box is a drop down menu and duck accidently scrolled to the wrong reason.

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#541 apolloluke
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Hi Casey,

Ive just got a few suggestions regarding this forum that I think might help all of the mods out. I think you should make 5 more stickied threads about the rules of System Wars, because I dont think 5 is anywhere near enough. You should also make the warning at the top of each page much bigger - saySIZE36and BIG BOLDBRIGHTPINK- so it is much more eye catching. It would also be a good idea if you took away everyones thread making prividges and make all of us post in stickied threads that you have made. Hope this helps!

apolloluke
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#542 CaseyWegner
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Hi Casey,

Ive just got a few suggestions regarding this forum that I think might help all of the mods out. I think you should make 5 more stickied threads about the rules of System Wars, because I dont think 5 is anywhere near enough. You should also make the warning at the top of each page much bigger - saySIZE36and BIG BOLDBRIGHTPINK- so it is much more eye catching. It would also be a good idea if you took away everyones thread making prividges and make all of us post in stickied threads that you have made. Hope this helps!

apollolukeapolloluke

those are some very good ideas. expect them to go active within a few days.

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#543 fastesttruck
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Casey,

Quoting someone and then posting "QFT" and nothing else is spam right? I ask b/c I didn't see it in the topic here (Maybe I missed it) and I have seen a few people quote a post and just post QFT.

Thanks

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#544 James_Lipton
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So much red tape in a gaming forum. I expect this place to be ancient if this keeps up. My question is why so much dictation on what people can say on an open forum? You have to have a set criteria to post here. Can I have a debate without flaming? Well, how many debates have you seen when people don't undertone there oppenent to make a point? The term "flaming" could mean anything said to offend a person. Being that anything is really...anything For example: Not counting PC as part of the System War is consider "flaming". Again, in an open forum that should be consider nothing more than a point of view. If you wanted to construct such thinking and such rules to a forum than I highly suggest a private forum for posters.
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#545 CaseyWegner
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Casey,

Quoting someone and then posting "QFT" and nothing else is spam right? I ask b/c I didn't see it in the topic here (Maybe I missed it) and I have seen a few people quote a post and just post QFT.

Thanks

fastesttruck

yeah. it's a content-free post. it falls under the "disruptive posting" category, though.

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#546 fastesttruck
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Oh Disruptive. Ok Thanks. I'll remember that for next time I see such a post.
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#547 James_Lipton
Member since 2007 • 156 Posts

So much red tape in a gaming forum. I expect this place to be ancient if this keeps up. My question is why so much dictation on what people can say on an open forum? You have to have a set criteria to post here. Can I have a debate without flaming? Well, how many debates have you seen when people don't undertone there oppenent to make a point? The term "flaming" could mean anything said to offend a person. Being that anything is really...anything For example: Not counting PC as part of the System War is consider "flaming". Again, in an open forum that should be consider nothing more than a point of view. If you wanted to construct such thinking and such rules to a forum than I highly suggest a private forum for posters.James_Lipton

Can I get an answer to my question?

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#548 odin2019
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Do you think there should be a little more room for reasonable-ness and not just insta-modding? I say so because i find quite often that good users end up getting suspended or moderated or even banned for having too many moderations, when rampant trolls continue on as they haven't broken any direct rules by flaming somebody.

For example "haha i'm reporting you!" is something you get moderated for. Its considered trolling. That's cool. But what about "dont bother posting in troll threads guys; i've already reported this, so just leave it alone and it wont be bumped."

Me simply referencing the thread as being reported got me moderated. Because the rule is so concrete, i said something about reporting someone, so that means i get moderated.

Would users and moderators alike be much better off if there were room to simply judge a post on whether or not its harming anyone? Rather than whether, technically speaking, it violates a rule, by a stretch?

Ninja-Vox

yeah what he said. I think the mods are given too much power for one person when it comes to modding someone and then deciding on their own how long the suspension or whatever should last. I would think GS would be a much better site if when a mod finds something that is arguably offensive to another person they bookmark the post and then they discuss with about 6 or 7 other mods and come to a reasonable punishment rather than just the one mod taking action into their own hands.

I have been punished for things that were just stupid and its really not making the site that much better. I have mods punish me for like a whole week long for something that was not even that offensive........when I get punished for something that is not even that offenisve and I can't post for a week it makes it seem like the mods on this site don't really know what they are doing. This doesn't apply to every mod that has ever punished me because sometimes I can see where the punishment was fair and other times its absurd. I don't know exactly what all you have to do to become a mod but some of the mods out there just don't seem like they were trained as well as others.

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#549 metro2692
Member since 2007 • 169 Posts

is it okay for me to talk about a handheld (if its a stupid question, srry) i havent seen too much talk about handhelds on this forum.

also, is it okay for me to say a handheld is unappriciated nd discuss what the handheld needs??