Castlevania: Lords of Shadow will destroy God of War III

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Just like Dante's Inferno, amirite?

texasgoldrush

Kojima is only overseeing the project and giving pointers to the team thats developing it while he's busy off with KojiPro.

IF it was a Koji Pro developed game i would be on the bandwagon but it aint.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Really, I see a game that may be better than God of War IIIin almost every aspect of the game

Graphics: So GOW III may be better techinically, but Castlevania will be better artistically. There is greater value in art design than in techincal graphics.

Gameplay: Other than the boss fights, GOW III is a complete borefest. Hack slash hack slash. From the looks of it, Castlevania will have more varied gameplay with no QTE's.

Sound: Ummmm...its Castlevania. No contest here.

Story and Characters: Now this is where complete destruction of God of War III occurs. Castlevania has substance, even looking at the trailer. God of war III, or the series of that matter, has very little substance. From the looks of it, this new Castlevania may deal with the loss of a loved one and about death in general, GOW III...smash...torture...blood...guts...YEAH!!!!! Protagonists...Kratos, an adolescent boys wet dream, a shallow unniteresting character that tortures and kills anyone that crosses him in the most violent manner. No substance, very little depth, very little intellegence. Gabriel Belmont on the other hand looks to be a very likable protagonist who we care for...always trying to do the right thing, but kills when he has to. He also seems intellegent, as he is aware his quest to restore his wife to life may be a trap.Surrounding him will be a memorable cast of supporting characters and antagonists. Patrick Stewert FTW. While the story could ultimately dissappoint, a disappointing Castlevania story is better than a well executed GOW story.

From the looks of it however, it should easily trump the highly underrated Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness as the best story in the series(the N64 game starring werewolfCornell, in which, somehow there is also a Cornell in the new game)

Hopefully, Castlevania will make us forget about the grossly overrated and idiotic GOW III when it comes for GOTY awards.

After_Math

You're basing your theory on a trailer lol. Do you not realize this?darthogre

I hope so. I found GOW3 to be pretty boring/bland (it was the exact same game as parts 1 and 2...just better graphics and weaker story)rawsavon

I think there is a strong possibility that I may enjoy it more than GOW as well, but I am not running around claiming that it will destroy it, lol. I am with you in thinking it will be a great game, but please don't over hype it, man. All this does is give haters ammo, even if it were to score a great score of around 8.0-8.5. The higher you hype this game, the more the GOW fangirls will shoot it down if it does not receive a higher review score.

No matter how good it is, it will be shunned as another GOW clone around here, like every other hack n' slash game that happens to use similar gameplay mechanics. The fact that it has over 50 levels, is over 20 hours long, has an exploration component and let's you revisit old levels whenever you want to look for secrets will be totally ignored merely because it has a few similar basic gameplay mechanics.

It's funny, if shooters were viewed like this then games like Halo and Call of Duty would be labeled as clones of Doom and Wolfenstein and would be cast to the side as well. GOW did not invent the genre and it even 'borrows' elements from other games that came before it. Go play Prince of Persia: Warrior Within and tell me that GOW did not lift the platforming and puzzles straight from that game. I guess GOW is a 'clone' of sorts as well. I digress, but my point still stands.

I think there is a strong possibility that I may enjoy it more than GOW as well, but I am not running around claiming that it will destroy it, lol. I am with you in thinking it will be a great game, but please don't over hype it, man. All this does is give haters ammo, even if it were to score a great score of around 8.0-8.5. The higher you hype this game, the more the GOW fangirls will shoot it down if it does not receive a higher review score.

No matter how good it is, it will be shunned as another GOW clone around here, like every other hack n' slash game that happens to use similar gameplay mechanics. The fact that it has over 50 levels, is over 20 hours long, has an exploration component and let's you revisit old levels whenever you want to look for secrets will be totally ignored merely because it has a few similar basic gameplay mechanics.

It's funny, if shooters were viewed like this then games like Halo and Call of Duty would be labeled as clones of Doom and Wolfenstein and would be cast to the side as well. GOW did not invent the genre and it even 'borrows' elements from other games that came before it. Go play Prince of Persia: Warrior Within and tell me that GOW did not lift the platforming and puzzles straight from that game. I guess GOW is a 'clone' of sorts as well. I digress, but my point still stands.

ironcreed

[QUOTE="After_Math"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Really, I see a game that may be better than God of War IIIin almost every aspect of the game

Graphics: So GOW III may be better techinically, but Castlevania will be better artistically. There is greater value in art design than in techincal graphics.

Gameplay: Other than the boss fights, GOW III is a complete borefest. Hack slash hack slash. From the looks of it, Castlevania will have more varied gameplay with no QTE's.

Sound: Ummmm...its Castlevania. No contest here.

Story and Characters: Now this is where complete destruction of God of War III occurs. Castlevania has substance, even looking at the trailer. God of war III, or the series of that matter, has very little substance. From the looks of it, this new Castlevania may deal with the loss of a loved one and about death in general, GOW III...smash...torture...blood...guts...YEAH!!!!! Protagonists...Kratos, an adolescent boys wet dream, a shallow unniteresting character that tortures and kills anyone that crosses him in the most violent manner. No substance, very little depth, very little intellegence. Gabriel Belmont on the other hand looks to be a very likable protagonist who we care for...always trying to do the right thing, but kills when he has to. He also seems intellegent, as he is aware his quest to restore his wife to life may be a trap.Surrounding him will be a memorable cast of supporting characters and antagonists. Patrick Stewert FTW. While the story could ultimately dissappoint, a disappointing Castlevania story is better than a well executed GOW story.

From the looks of it however, it should easily trump the highly underrated Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness as the best story in the series(the N64 game starring werewolfCornell, in which, somehow there is also a Cornell in the new game)

Hopefully, Castlevania will make us forget about the grossly overrated and idiotic GOW III when it comes for GOTY awards.

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Just like Dante's Inferno, amirite?

texasgoldrush

God of War 3 sucks. But I feel like Lords of Shadow is going to suck too, because Castlevania doesn't work in 3d. You hear that, devs? IT DOESNT WORK! STOP DOING IT!

From the looks of it however, it should easily trump the highly underrated Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness

texasgoldrush

I'm 100% agree here, LoD is incredible underrated.

Anyway, i think that it could easily beat GOWIII in several aspects, it actually looks really good, graphics and everything, the only thing that keeps me worried, is that long campaign that could take you from 15 hours to 20 (i think), i'm not against a long campaign, i just hope is not boring.

But TBH, while it looks awesome and i would definitely keep an eye on it, i don't think it can beat the best action game this gen, at least in terms of gameplay, Bayonetta.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

From the looks of it however, it should easily trump the highly underrated Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness

madsnakehhh

I'm 100% agree here, LoD is incredible underrated.

Anyway, i think that it could easily beat GOWIII in several aspects, it actually looks really good, graphics and everything, the only thing that keeps me worried, is that long campaign that could take you from 15 hours to 20 (i think), i'm not against a long campaign, i just hope is not boring.

But TBH, while it looks awesome and i would definitely keep an eye on it, i don't think it can beat the best action game this gen, at least in terms of gameplay, Bayonetta.

No arguing that, Bayonetta has mind boggling gameplay. Of course Lords of Shadow is not trying to be a game that is all bout insane, liquid smooth flowing combos either. In that respect, a comparison is not even feasible.

I have high hopes for castlevania Lords of Shadows but it will not destroy God of War.

I have high hopes for castlevania Lords of Shadows but it will not destroy God of War.

ShishcabobShig

GOW 3 was amazing. C:LoS has some big shoes to fill. But the same was said about dantes Inferno destroying GOW 3 and look how that turned out. Just wait until the game is out before making statements like this.

Castlevania may deal with the loss of a loved one

texasgoldrush

Singling out GOW3 because it's the game to beat, or just because it's an exclusive? Watched the whole gameplay trailer, looks decent but nothing out out the box.

I can't wait to try it. The only problem I have is Kojima. I like him and all but I just find it strange he's involved in a Castlevania game.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

I played this at E3, and I can't really think of any way in which it was better than GOW3.

texasgoldrush

Castlevania is one of my favorite franchises of all time. Unfortunately, I have yet to enjoy a 3D title. Harmony of Despair is fun though. This is one of my most anticipated games currently.

But I don't see the point in comparing it to God of War. Everything is subjective. I actually like the artistic style in GoW, and also the sounds/gameplay/characters. It all conveys brutality. From Kratos' two-dimensional, barbaric personality to the insane blood to the bone crunching sounds. It gets the job done.

I don't see the point in comparing the two. I get that they look to play similar but it's essentially the same as comparing Halo to Wolfenstein. There's just too many differences.

(And Lords of Shadow has QTE)

IndianaPwns39

All well and good they said that. But according to this videohttp://comic-con.gamespot.com/video/6270674/?tag=embedded_video#generic_commentsand other various gameplay videos, it is in there. "Little quick time event" says Giancarlo Varanini, so it won't be on the scale of GoW QTE surely.

Really, I see a game that may be better than God of War IIIin almost every aspect of the game

Graphics: So GOW III may be better techinically, but Castlevania will be better artistically. There is greater value in art design than in techincal graphics.

Gameplay: Other than the boss fights, GOW III is a complete borefest. Hack slash hack slash. From the looks of it, Castlevania will have more varied gameplay with no QTE's.

Sound: Ummmm...its Castlevania. No contest here.

Story and Characters: Now this is where complete destruction of God of War III occurs. Castlevania has substance, even looking at the trailer. God of war III, or the series of that matter, has very little substance. From the looks of it, this new Castlevania may deal with the loss of a loved one and about death in general, GOW III...smash...torture...blood...guts...YEAH!!!!! Protagonists...Kratos, an adolescent boys wet dream, a shallow unniteresting character that tortures and kills anyone that crosses him in the most violent manner. No substance, very little depth, very little intellegence. Gabriel Belmont on the other hand looks to be a very likable protagonist who we care for...always trying to do the right thing, but kills when he has to. He also seems intellegent, as he is aware his quest to restore his wife to life may be a trap.Surrounding him will be a memorable cast of supporting characters and antagonists. Patrick Stewert FTW. While the story could ultimately dissappoint, a disappointing Castlevania story is better than a well executed GOW story.

From the looks of it however, it should easily trump the highly underrated Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness as the best story in the series(the N64 game starring werewolfCornell, in which, somehow there is also a Cornell in the new game)

Hopefully, Castlevania will make us forget about the grossly overrated and idiotic GOW III when it comes for GOTY awards.

texasgoldrush

Graphics: Until LOS is released, we won't know how good the graphics are. However, we do know as a FACT that GoW3 is an amazing looking title

Gameplay: LOS could be just as "boring" as GoW3. If I remember correctly, almost ALL 3D Castlevanias suck. Also, try playing GoW on something OTHER than Easy mode (Spartan). While it may technicially be "Normal" mode, it's still the easiest mode in the game.

Sound: You're right, no contest. Castlevania is nothig but MIDI tracks and horrible voice acting. God of War 3 has already won that category.

Story/Characters: This section is a joke, because both GoW AND Castlevania are both pretty poor in this category. However, there's no denying that Kratos is one of the most iconic gaming heroes made, and his character concept (expecially in GoD3) is almost perfect for the Action/Hack n' Slash genre. As far as "substance" is concerned, I don't see how Gabriel trying to revive his wife is any more deep/meaningful than Kratos seeking revenge against the gods for tricking him into killing his own wife and kid. The end result of both ends with both Kratos and Gabriel killing lots of monsters for reasons of dead loved ones, so I don't see your justification for claiming this is "God of Wars complete destruction". In a lot of ways it's basically the same story, with the difference being the vessel/universe it's told through.

You should try hoping that it will be as good as Dante's Inferno, but all of these games have the same shallow storylines. Lose loved one(s), seek revenge, spill blood, with angsty cutscenes scattered throughout. There's ZERO reason to expect anything different from a new Castlevania game.

Trying to build up a game by tearing down one of the greatest 3D action adventure series of all timeis a poor way to handle it. If anything , you should just be focusing on the positives and any similarities to the great God of War series. You'll catch more flies with honey.

[QUOTE="Upparoom"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Beaten all three.....so what it had puzzles....it is still a very dumb game series. Its nothing I haven't seen before either.

Its Lowest Common Denominator

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Just like Dante's Inferno, amirite?

texasgoldrush

I dont know why you posted all these points when they're all your opinion. On a side note, I dont care for either series.

God of War 3 sucks. But I feel like Lords of Shadow is going to suck too, because Castlevania doesn't work in 3d. You hear that, devs? IT DOESNT WORK! STOP DOING IT!

JonSnow777

I have not played all 3D-Castlevania but Castlevania Lament of Innocence was fun. 3D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2D

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Really, I see a game that may be better than God of War IIIin almost every aspect of the game

Graphics: So GOW III may be better techinically, but Castlevania will be better artistically. There is greater value in art design than in techincal graphics.

Gameplay: Other than the boss fights, GOW III is a complete borefest. Hack slash hack slash. From the looks of it, Castlevania will have more varied gameplay with no QTE's.

Sound: Ummmm...its Castlevania. No contest here.

Story and Characters: Now this is where complete destruction of God of War III occurs. Castlevania has substance, even looking at the trailer. God of war III, or the series of that matter, has very little substance. From the looks of it, this new Castlevania may deal with the loss of a loved one and about death in general, GOW III...smash...torture...blood...guts...YEAH!!!!! Protagonists...Kratos, an adolescent boys wet dream, a shallow unniteresting character that tortures and kills anyone that crosses him in the most violent manner. No substance, very little depth, very little intellegence. Gabriel Belmont on the other hand looks to be a very likable protagonist who we care for...always trying to do the right thing, but kills when he has to. He also seems intellegent, as he is aware his quest to restore his wife to life may be a trap.Surrounding him will be a memorable cast of supporting characters and antagonists. Patrick Stewert FTW. While the story could ultimately dissappoint, a disappointing Castlevania story is better than a well executed GOW story.

From the looks of it however, it should easily trump the highly underrated Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness as the best story in the series(the N64 game starring werewolfCornell, in which, somehow there is also a Cornell in the new game)

Hopefully, Castlevania will make us forget about the grossly overrated and idiotic GOW III when it comes for GOTY awards.

Graphics: Until LOS is released, we won't know how good the graphics are. However, we do know as a FACT that GoW3 is an amazing looking title

Gameplay: LOS could be just as "boring" as GoW3. If I remember correctly, almost ALL 3D Castlevanias suck. Also, try playing GoW on something OTHER than Easy mode (Spartan). While it may technicially be "Normal" mode, it's still the easiest mode in the game.

Sound: You're right, no contest. Castlevania is nothig but MIDI tracks and horrible voice acting. God of War 3 has already won that category.

Story/Characters: This section is a joke, because both GoW AND Castlevania are both pretty poor in this category. However, there's no denying that Kratos is one of the most iconic gaming heroes made, and his character concept (expecially in GoD3) is almost perfect for the Action/Hack n' Slash genre. As far as "substance" is concerned, I don't see how Gabriel trying to revive his wife is any more deep/meaningful than Kratos seeking revenge against the gods for tricking him into killing his own wife and kid. The end result of both ends with both Kratos and Gabriel killing lots of monsters for reasons of dead loved ones, so I don't see your justification for claiming this is "God of Wars complete destruction". In a lot of ways it's basically the same story, with the difference being the vessel/universe it's told through.

You should try hoping that it will be as good as Dante's Inferno, but all of these games have the same shallow storylines. Lose loved one(s), seek revenge, spill blood, with angsty cutscenes scattered throughout. There's ZERO reason to expect anything different from a new Castlevania game.

hellhund

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

God of War 3 sucks. But I feel like Lords of Shadow is going to suck too, because Castlevania doesn't work in 3d. You hear that, devs? IT DOESNT WORK! STOP DOING IT!

aroxx_ab

I have not played all 3D-Castlevania but Castlevania Lament of Innocence was fun. 3D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2D

Ha ha. Oh wow.

I care about everything except story in games like these, hopefully Lords of Shadow will not disappoint.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

God of War 3 sucks. But I feel like Lords of Shadow is going to suck too, because Castlevania doesn't work in 3d. You hear that, devs? IT DOESNT WORK! STOP DOING IT!

JonSnow777

I have not played all 3D-Castlevania but Castlevania Lament of Innocence was fun. 3D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2D

Ha ha. Oh wow.

[QUOTE="JonSnow777"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

I have not played all 3D-Castlevania but Castlevania Lament of Innocence was fun. 3D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2D

Ha ha. Oh wow.

IT could happen (I doubt though considering who's working on it) I was disappointed in God of War 3 (got really boring after three hours in). The big question is can Castlevania:LoD top Bayonetta as the best action game to come out this gen?

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]

That happened in both games you mentioned. lol

telefanatic

Its just an excuse for Kratos to kill everyone in his way in the most violent manner....its never trully explored.

Castelvania looks a bit EMO.

Maybe we should set the bar even lower and hope that its better than the last Castlevania game.

let me guess you just own a 360.

I swear people said the same thing about danti craperno

sounds like someone is bitter 360 can't match an exclusive action title like GoW3.

sounds like someone is bitter 360 can't match an exclusive action title like GoW3.

argetlam00

sounds like someone is bitter 360 can't match an exclusive action title like GoW3.

argetlam00

In fact, I also called Gears of War a dumb game.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

sounds like someone is bitter 360 can't match an exclusive action title like GoW3.

texasgoldrush

In fact, I also called Gears of War a dumb game.

I seriously doubt it.