Casual gamers drive me insane......

They are really starting to annoy me. I know alot of people who own 360's and a few of them good PC's but every one of them is what i'd call a casual gamer.

Not one of them buys a gaming mag or uses forums like this or checks reviews. They buy games based on TV ads or other hype sources. This is why i call them casual. If any game is difficult in any way they don't wanna know. All they have played for the last several months is CoD4 on live. Now they are all getting bored of it and have pretty much stopped gaming until the next hyped game is launched. They all bought Kayne and Lynch and other poor games as they were advertised everywhere and honestly think these games are what is great at the moment.

I have suggested some great games for them, Mass Effect etc but they just won't listen.

I gave my Free trial cd of World on Conflict pc that came with my game to one of them. They tried it and claimed it was just too difficult.

for me these ar the type of gamers making many games the short, unoriginal crapfests we see so often, the games that receive bad reviews yet still top charts across the globe. Simpsons, Kayne and Lynch, Turok the list goes on. If people keep buying this crap they will continue to make this crap.

It's rare when people don't buy what is advertised strongly. Same thing with TV, we get like a million ads for The Biggest Loser and American Idol and people continue to watch that crap.

ITA anyway, I wish people would look at reviews before buying, but sadly, it ain't gonna happen anytime soon. As internet usage continues to grow though, I'm sure most gamers will fall on a nice site called Gamespot... and hopefully take time to look at a review or two.

100% true, nearly all my friends are like this except one, he actually enjoys games with depth and stratagy, games that require you to think or make difficult choices.

Most of my other friends cant enjoy a good game when it kicks them in the balls, i even brought my mate Stalker shadow of Chernobyl hoping he would enjoy this underated gem, but no insted he complained about how the guns were inaccurate, oh the guns get damaged, oh my armor get damaged, the A.I. sucked.

you may hate casuals but they make up 80% of the market and there is no changing that and companies will continue to cater to casuals long before the hard cores.

you may hate casuals but they make up 80% of the market and there is no changing that and companies will continue to cater to casuals long before the hard cores.

WilliamRLBaker

Maybe so. I don't class myself as hardcore though. I just love great games. I never buy based on tv ads either. It's just these people miss so many great games as they buy the advertised rubbish instead. Thats why most don't understand why i play games on a PC, they have never even heard of a mod, or games like Crysis or Company of Heroes. They didn't even know CoD4 was on PC.

my causal friends play counter strike source and age of empires 3, some good games in my opinionSonir77

oh and why? cause i tell them what games to buy, AHAHHAHAHAAHa

People that think they are 'hardcore' drive me insane. householdman

Right on .. it doesn't drive me insane as much as it makes me laugh.

[QUOTE="householdman"]People that think they are 'hardcore' drive me insane. X_Evo

Right on .. it doesn't drive me insane as much as it makes me laugh.

Did i say i was Hardcore? i wouldn't even know what makes a hardcore gamer. I play games for about 15 hours a week and buy games based on reviews and demo's, if that makes me hardcore then so be it.

Casuals play casual games. It's as simple as that. They're not going to go out and buy Crysis. So they go and buy spiderman 3 or barbie horse adventure. While we gamers get to play real games.dragon_master11

No they don't, they buy what looks cool. That's the biggest factor in their decision to buy a game. When it comes to enjoying a game, the biggest factor becomes how easy the game is. If it's easy, they like it.

[QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="householdman"]People that think they are 'hardcore' drive me insane. Frozzik

Right on .. it doesn't drive me insane as much as it makes me laugh.

Did i say i was Hardcore? i wouldn't even know what makes a hardcore gamer. I play games for about 15 hours a week and buy games based on reviews and demo's, if that makes me hardcore then so be it.

Did I say you said you were hardcore? It was a blanket statment.

[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="householdman"]People that think they are 'hardcore' drive me insane. householdman

Right on .. it doesn't drive me insane as much as it makes me laugh.

Did i say i was Hardcore? i wouldn't even know what makes a hardcore gamer. I play games for about 15 hours a week and buy games based on reviews and demo's, if that makes me hardcore then so be it.

Did I say you said you were hardcore? It was a blanket statment.

Oh lol, sorry, my bad. Kinda got all defensive there didn't i.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

you may hate casuals but they make up 80% of the market and there is no changing that and companies will continue to cater to casuals long before the hard cores.

Frozzik

Maybe so. I don't class myself as hardcore though. I just love great games. I never buy based on tv ads either. It's just these people miss so many great games as they buy the advertised rubbish instead. Thats why most don't understand why i play games on a PC, they have never even heard of a mod, or games like Crysis or Company of Heroes. They didn't even know CoD4 was on PC.

Which is why talk of mods, and such by hermits makes no change on the current scenes of games, Casuals make up 80% of the entire games market, which is why CS 1.6 and such might be one of the highest played computer games, but it still sucked for sales compared to all the other stuff out there.

Which is why cows claims of mods and user made maps mean nothing cause the casuals wont even use the function.

The casual market will exist forever in every entertainment category. Movies, music, and now games are driven by uneducated lowest common denominator appeal.

Halo is that summer blockbuster movie we all love or hate. Kane and Lynch is the Nickelback of our cursed existance.

God, Nickelback sucks.

[QUOTE="householdman"][QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="householdman"]People that think they are 'hardcore' drive me insane. Frozzik

Right on .. it doesn't drive me insane as much as it makes me laugh.

Did i say i was Hardcore? i wouldn't even know what makes a hardcore gamer. I play games for about 15 hours a week and buy games based on reviews and demo's, if that makes me hardcore then so be it.

Did I say you said you were hardcore? It was a blanket statment.

Oh lol, sorry, my bad. Kinda got all defensive there didn't i.

No worrys buddy, all in good humor :D

People that think they are 'hardcore' drive me insane. householdman

Agreed, I tend to look at reviews on metacritics before buying games but in the end I only get to play it like one or two hours a day, three on weekends.

lol hardcore gamers what a joke.

Children with high pitched squeely voices on Xbox Live drive me insane. Even if they aren;t being annoying their voices irritate me greatly. I just want to bash my head against the wall until I can't hear them anymore. Lucky for me the headphones come with the option to take them off during these incredibly annoying times *phew*

People that think they are 'hardcore' drive me insane. householdman

they need to feel hardcore/ better for some reason.. i know the reason.. but i'll let them fimd out inthe course of their life

Yeah all of my friends (except one) are casuals. They hate strategy games because they'd "rather be the one fighting". They all bought Halo as their first 360 game. Hell they're so casual that Oblivion is too much for them, oh and one of them bought Transformers for the Wii for $60 at our overpriced electronics store.Juggernaut140

I like what you did there.

Not one of them buys a gaming mag or uses forums like this or checks reviews.

Frozzik

Yeah you just pretty much lost all your respect there especially in the bolded.

They are really starting to annoy me. I know alot of people who own 360's and a few of them good PC's but every one of them is what i'd call a casual gamer.

Not one of them buys a gaming mag or uses forums like this or checks reviews. They buy games based on TV ads or other hype sources. This is why i call them casual. If any game is difficult in any way they don't wanna know. All they have played for the last several months is CoD4 on live. Now they are all getting bored of it and have pretty much stopped gaming until the next hyped game is launched. They all bought Kayne and Lynch and other poor games as they were advertised everywhere and honestly think these games are what is great at the moment.

I have suggested some great games for them, Mass Effect etc but they just won't listen.

I gave my Free trial cd of World on Conflict pc that came with my game to one of them. They tried it and claimed it was just too difficult.

for me these ar the type of gamers making many games the short, unoriginal crapfests we see so often, the games that receive bad reviews yet still top charts across the globe. Simpsons, Kayne and Lynch, Turok the list goes on. If people keep buying this crap they will continue to make this crap.

Frozzik

I think a "hardcore" gamer saying he doesn't like "casual" gamers is akin to an adult saying he doesn't like children. The former was once the latter, and it takes the latter to produce the former.

I have a few similar friends. They all started calling Orange box crap because it actually had a ****ing story to it. When they were playing TF2 online they couldn't get pass the cartoon look,and they didn't like the graphics because it wasn't up to par with some other games, and also there wasn't enough blood for them (there Gears of war freaks its all they ever play.) I like GEOW also but man there's a point when enough is enough try some new games. I gave one of them Bioshock he said he couldn't play it because its to scary. They piss me off sometimes because if your playing another game they get on your back about it, like OMG he's playing OB lmao *** get on gears. There so ****ing annoying sometimes there taste in games suck so bad.Hockey_Slayer

Get new friends seriously :D or come on the pc where the OB and tf2 are godlike

But I'm actually going to reply to this thread because I have something interesting to input.

Umm there is a world outside of video games. The reason people don't play games like The Witcher, Shin Megami Tensei, Red Orchestra, Supreme Commander, and others is because they just don't give a damn; they have their own lives and their own hobbies to catter to.

People act like video games is the only hobby where this happens but inr eality it happens in nearly every other hobby. Take music for example, me and some of my friends are huge metal heads and we can't believe the crap people think.

AC/DC great? :lol: @ a band that uses the same riff for nearly the enitre song.

Metallica? Yeah just listen to RAGE's The Missing Link.

Pantera? Yeah here's their biggest song. Na-Nana-Na *repeat that throughout their entire song and that's it*

Jimmy Hendrix the greatest guitarist ever? :lol:

Even when I post the music from more talented and original bands on this site people just sit there saying "I don't understand, what makes him a better guitarist?" While everyone in the Metal Community does similar things that I do and just scratches there head like "WTF?".

It's simple people don't care, they aren't as intreseted enough in that kind of music or apperciate it enough to actually care and overall they could just have different opinions and like music simple then complex, and there is nothing wrong with that.

People act like they are so "elite" when in reality they probably watch shallow anime, listen to untalented cookie cutter bands, watch mainstream crappy movies, know nothing about cars, and as far as books come they only read Dr. Seus.

This is where the term "Hardcore Gamer" comes in as well as "Metal Head", "Otaku", "Bookworm", and "Movie Goer". These things are more then just names they are a certain group of people who buy and catter to certain things that usually tend to have more meat then potatoes as some would say.

So overall who cares because you're just a "casual" towards something else.

[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]I have a few similar friends. They all started calling Orange box crap because it actually had a ****ing story to it. When they were playing TF2 online they couldn't get pass the cartoon look,and they didn't like the graphics because it wasn't up to par with some other games, and also there wasn't enough blood for them (there Gears of war freaks its all they ever play.) I like GEOW also but man there's a point when enough is enough try some new games. I gave one of them Bioshock he said he couldn't play it because its to scary. They piss me off sometimes because if your playing another game they get on your back about it, like OMG he's playing OB lmao *** get on gears. There so ****ing annoying sometimes there taste in games suck so bad.Franko_3

Get new friends seriously :D or come on the pc where the OB and tf2 are godlike

People enjoy games at different levels. What makes you superior to someone who really has a good time with Wii Sports versus you enjoying Crysis or some RTS game on PC?Videodogg

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]People enjoy games at different levels. What makes you superior to someone who really has a good time with Wii Sports versus you enjoying Crysis or some RTS game on PC?Hockey_Slayer

Like i said, people enjoy games at different levels than you do, Bad taste ? Thats is subjective. Turok provide some thrills and entertainment much the same as a summer action movie. Just because there are other better games does not mean people cant play and enjoy these other games too.

[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]People enjoy games at different levels. What makes you superior to someone who really has a good time with Wii Sports versus you enjoying Crysis or some RTS game on PC?Videodogg

Like i said, people enjoy games at different levels than you do, Bad taste ? Thats is subjective. Turok provide some thrills and entertainment much the same as a summer action movie. Just because there are other better games does not mean people cant play and enjoy these other games too.

Well then by golly. you better stay far away from me.

:|

So because they enjoy games you dont like and dont go on forums makes them casual ?

Maybe they have diferent taste then you not every one love Mass effect or some of the other "great" games you suggested.

I hate this, just be quiet and play games, who cares if your hardcore or not?

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]Yeah all of my friends (except one) are casuals. They hate strategy games because they'd "rather be the one fighting". They all bought Halo as their first 360 game. Hell they're so casual that Oblivion is too much for them, oh and one of them bought Transformers for the Wii for $60 at our overpriced electronics store.mabris

I like what you did there.

What did I do there?

But I'm actually going to reply to this thread because I have something interesting to input.

Umm there is a world outside of video games. The reason people don't play games like The Witcher, Shin Megami Tensei, Red Orchestra, Supreme Commander, and others is because they just don't give a damn; they have their own lives and their own hobbies to catter to.

People act like video games is the only hobby where this happens but inr eality it happens in nearly every other hobby. Take music for example, me and some of my friends are huge metal heads and we can't believe the crap people think.

AC/DC great? :lol: @ a band that uses the same riff for nearly the enitre song.

Metallica? Yeah just listen to RAGE's The Missing Link.

Pantera? Yeah here's their biggest song. Na-Nana-Na *repeat that throughout their entire song and that's it*

Jimmy Hendrix the greatest guitarist ever? :lol:

Even when I post the music from more talented and original bands on this site people just sit there saying "I don't understand, what makes him a better guitarist?" While everyone in the Metal Community does similar things that I do and just scratches there head like "WTF?".

It's simple people don't care, they aren't as intreseted enough in that kind of music or apperciate it enough to actually care and overall they could just have different opinions and like music simple then complex, and there is nothing wrong with that.

People act like they are so "elite" when in reality they probably watch shallow anime, listen to untalented cookie cutter bands, watch mainstream crappy movies, know nothing about cars, and as far as books come they only read Dr. Seus.

This is where the term "Hardcore Gamer" comes in as well as "Metal Head", "Otaku", "Bookworm", and "Movie Goer". These things are more then just names they are a certain group of people who buy and catter to certain things that usually tend to have more meat then potatoes as some would say.

So overall who cares because you're just a "casual" towards something else.

Gunraidan

There's nothing wrong with Metallica or Pantera

There is something wrong however, with the 13 girls who say that Enter Sandman is their favorite song and when you ask them what other songs they like, they can't ******* think of another one

my casual friends are turning me casual :( I havent finished No More Heroes because i keep playing Halo 3 online with them. the bastards!