CD Projekt revealed sale (and profit) numbers of The Witcher 2

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Link?

lundy86_4

My bad, it was a little less than 50, though for some reason I remember "over 50%".

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/21/npd-pc-retail-and-digital-distribution-sales-reaching-parity/

Glitchspot

Evidence accepted 8) Though that doesn't tell us much about Europe, but yeah, for me the overall sales numbers isn't surprising. The 20% DD is more surprising for me as someone mentioned before.

Glad to hear it...I really enjoyed Witcher 2 up until the ending (which really isn't their fault)

that makes me happy

I'm confused at the amount of people comparing The Witcher 2's sales to the sales of some of the most hyped-up console franchises that get tens of millions of dollars poured into advertising.

Evidence accepted 8) Though that doesn't tell us much about Europe, but yeah, for me the overall sales numbers isn't surprising. The 20% DD is more surprising for me as someone mentioned before.

StrifeDelivery

Europe is pretty much a learn by experience kinda thing. Though it isn't exactly evidence, many people on this board grew up in Europe (myself included, I grew up in England). People still line up for the hard copy release of PC games (Stalker as an example). It's kinda crazy lol.

20% WW is pretty nifty accoutning for the lack of movement in places like Eastern Europe, though places such as Russia are catching on with Valve/Steam.

Great now put that money into The Witcher 3 or They with built from the ground up DX11 graphics!!! Imagine tessellation on them sex scenes :P

NoodleFighter

I still need to download The Witcher off of GoG and then purchase the physical copy of The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings.

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Great now put that money into The Witcher 3 or They with built from the ground up DX11 graphics!!! Imagine tessellation on them sex scenes :P

jettpack

No way man. They gotta tessellate DAT TRISS! :D

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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Great now put that money into The Witcher 3 or They with built from the ground up DX11 graphics!!! Imagine tessellation on them sex scenes :P

ChubbyGuy40

No way man. They gotta tessellate DAT TRISS! :D

Cd Projekt: With Tessellation Triss merigolds front and back increase by 10 inches, Letho with tessellation on turns into a giant mountain of meat, and Geralt extends by 12 inches.

absolutely pathetic sales for a game hyped so much, hopefully 360 version will make up for PC failure.

Harisemo

Funny considering what Epic is doing now. And while we are at it, who was the developers of that homefront game?

Make good game with non intrusive DRM and lots of content, people will buy it. Simple as that.

Wasdie

not to mention free dlc and good patching so far

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

absolutely pathetic sales for a game hyped so much, hopefully 360 version will make up for PC failure.

slimjimbadboy

Funny considering what Epic is doing now. And while we are at it, who was the developers of that homefront game?

Harisemo is a troll don't bother arguing with him.

absolutely pathetic sales for a game hyped so much, hopefully 360 version will make up for PC failure.

Harisemo

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

absolutely pathetic sales for a game hyped so much, hopefully 360 version will make up for PC failure.

lundy86_4

Fantastic sales, considering the game had noto very little marketing. You should understand a market more before commenting. The hype here and in general gaming circles is not indicative of a buying trend within the general public :roll:

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

That's pretty damn impressive. The Witcher has been a great series for them, and with little advertising has raked in a large amount of sales.

Kinthalis

That's the thing.

Not a single TV commercial and the overall marketing budget of essentially an indie title on a console and they sold 1 million copies in a month.

I'm very suprised by the low number of digital sales. I know the digital sales span is shorter, but still, only 20%?

Still, pretty good for ahardcore RPG.

The game it gets to compared most on the consoles is Demon Souls which only sold half that amount in a MUCH longer time scale. Hopefulyl nothign a TV commecrial can't take care of. Go CDProject!

Retail is still much bigger than DD in Europe. That explains the lower digital sales, since the game was most popular in Europe.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

That's pretty damn impressive. The Witcher has been a great series for them, and with little advertising has raked in a large amount of sales.

Kinthalis

That's the thing.

Not a single TV commercial and the overall marketing budget of essentially an indie title on a console and they sold 1 million copies in a month.

I'm very suprised by the low number of digital sales. I know the digital sales span is shorter, but still, only 20%?

Still, pretty good for ahardcore RPG.

The game it gets to compared most on the consoles is Demon Souls which only sold half that amount in a MUCH longer time scale. Hopefulyl nothign a TV commecrial can't take care of. Go CDProject!

You got a lot of goodies in the retail version though, it was like what youd expect in an LE version of a game for the price of a normal one. That would probably explain the amount of retail vs digital sales.

absolutely pathetic sales for a game hyped so much, hopefully 360 version will make up for PC failure.

Harisemo

You can't be more wrong.

The Witcher 2 is a very elitist game designed with top tier hardware requirements in mind and released towards a hardcore niche segment, and still was able to reach the 1 million units sold, whereas a lot of console games, shiped to a potential purchasers numbers in oders of dozens of players with (sometimes) tens of millions invested in marketing floped so hard that is not even fun (in example: Bulletstorm).

Outside COD, Halo, Gears, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted and FIFA/Madden most of console games are struggling to top 1-2 million units sold, and in ypu take the Mass Effect 2 or Dragon Age 2 sales in consoles and you see the potential customers of those games and the potential ones for The Witcher 2 in PC and then take a look over the final sales then the only logic conclusion is that DA2/ Mass Effect 2 were a huge faiure in sales, specially in consoles.

Those numbers also reveal how hard is renting and second hand sales hitting the sales of single player games in consoles. The Witcher 2 is a technical masterpiece and still was able to reach the 1 million unit sold milestone and to provide massive benefits to CD Projeck.

I don't think it's about the marketing. The Witcher 2 had plenty of marketing. More or less, The Witcher series has always been illusive to many gamers. Let's face it. Not that many gamers know about this game. They're just too fixated on other games, that are way more popular. I hope they go on to sell at least 3-4 million, but I feel like they won't get there. And that makes me kinda angry.Elann2008

Where did they get marketing? I don't doubt that parts of Eastern Europe got some, but North America got none, AFAIK.

I think it'll sell close to 3 million, which is great. I think they only had a budget of around $10 million to create the game.

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Good sales for a game on any system. Outliers are hardly any indication of how the vast majority of games will sell (i.e. Gears/Halo/GT5 etc). This was in 1.5-3 months. That's damn impressive.

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"Aww..look at all those jaggies. Wait...THOSE ARENT JAGGIES--..."

Oh my word lol! She must have small... Wait a second... Kid friendly forum here!

I got the game retail for $40 around the time it came out. Don't know why so many hermits go gaga for digital download. I'll take the physical disk with the pretty box and zero hours of download time anyday.

As for the game it's pretty good but too short, and the controls are kinda clunky. Actually just clunky compared to demon's souls. Better then Oblivion though.

I got the game retail for $40 around the time it came out. Don't know why so many hermits go gaga for digital download. I'll take the physical disk with the pretty box and zero hours of download time anyday.

As for the game it's pretty good but too short, and the controls are kinda clunky. Actually just clunky compared to demon's souls. Better then Oblivion though.

Pray_to_me

I had it preloaded days in advance so on the midnight of release I was able to play it. I also have it backed up on a disk and an external hdd.

Great news. Still If I'm reading it correctly...

20% of the sales were digital, which means 80% are retail...and they are missing data from last two months retail.

Doesn't that mean that the game sold quite more?

Make good game with non intrusive DRM and lots of content, people will buy it. Simple as that.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Make good game with non intrusive DRM and lots of content, people will buy it. Simple as that.

WilliamRLBaker

So now PC gamers can stop claiming DD makes up over 50% of PC sales to rebut poor retail figures from devs. I'm a PC gamer too but you have to face the truth. Anyway, great sales figures for TW2.

So now PC gamers can stop claiming DD makes up over 50% of PC sales in rebut poor retail figures from devs. I'm a PC gamer too but you have to face the truth. Anyway, great sales figures for TW2.ocstew

I believe the 50% DD numbers were solely NA.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Make good game with non intrusive DRM and lots of content, people will buy it. Simple as that.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="ocstew"]So now PC gamers can stop claiming DD makes up over 50% of PC sales in rebut poor retail figures from devs. I'm a PC gamer too but you have to face the truth. Anyway, great sales figures for TW2.lundy86_4

I believe the 50% DD numbers were solely NA.

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[QUOTE="ocstew"]So now PC gamers can stop claiming DD makes up over 50% of PC sales in rebut poor retail figures from devs. I'm a PC gamer too but you have to face the truth. Anyway, great sales figures for TW2.ocstew

I believe the 50% DD numbers were solely NA.

that could be around a £30 million profit.

nice.

absolutely pathetic sales for a game hyped so much, hopefully 360 version will make up for PC failure.

Harisemo

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]I don't think it's about the marketing. The Witcher 2 had plenty of marketing. More or less, The Witcher series has always been illusive to many gamers. Let's face it. Not that many gamers know about this game. They're just too fixated on other games, that are way more popular. I hope they go on to sell at least 3-4 million, but I feel like they won't get there. And that makes me kinda angry.lundy86_4

Where did they get marketing? I don't doubt that parts of Eastern Europe got some, but North America got none, AFAIK.

I think it'll sell close to 3 million, which is great. I think they only had a budget of around $10 million to create the game.

So now PC gamers can stop claiming DD makes up over 50% of PC sales to rebut poor retail figures from devs. I'm a PC gamer too but you have to face the truth. Anyway, great sales figures for TW2.

ocstew

Are we still pretending this is impressive? a game with a massive backround, which clearly isnt indie. as only yet to break a million? its good. but nothing to write home about in the slightest.....PC360Wii

Are we still pretending this is impressive? a game with a massive backround, which clearly isnt indie. as only yet to break a million? its good. but nothing to write home about in the slightest.....PC360Wii

Tell me how many games with the level of TW2 marketing campaign sold a million in less than two months please,because that´s already more than what the majority of console games sell.

If this was Alan Wake(that had a pretty big marketing campaign and way higher expectations)it would be another thing,and basically TW2 sold about as much as it in less than two months,and will sell a lot more,and same goes to Demons Souls,GOTY and all. By the end of the year it will have sold a lot more,and this is not a huge release like other games,it´s a niche RPG so what were you expecting,CoD numbers?

Learn to be realistic and don´t say nonsense.

PS: It has already broke a million by now easily.

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Are we still pretending this is impressive? a game with a massive backround, which clearly isnt indie. as only yet to break a million? its good. but nothing to write home about in the slightest.....Arach666

Tell me how many games with the level of TW2 marketing campaign sold a million in less than two months please,because that´s already more than what the majority of console games sell.

If this was Alan Wake(that had a pretty big marketing campaign and way higher expectations)it would be another thing,and basically TW2 sold about as much as it in less than two months,and will sell a lot more,and same goes to Demons Souls,GOTY and all. By the end of the year it will have sold a lot more,and this is not a huge release like other games,it´s a niche RPG so what were you expecting,CoD numbers?

Learn to be realistic and don´t say nonsense.

It was a direct competitor to Bioware's style RPG, with industry leading graphics (RPGs), copying the now not niche Demon Souls.

I think peopel forget when a company stops going indie.

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Are we still pretending this is impressive? a game with a massive backround, which clearly isnt indie. as only yet to break a million? its good. but nothing to write home about in the slightest.....PC360Wii

Tell me how many games with the level of TW2 marketing campaign sold a million in less than two months please,because that´s already more than what the majority of console games sell.

If this was Alan Wake(that had a pretty big marketing campaign and way higher expectations)it would be another thing,and basically TW2 sold about as much as it in less than two months,and will sell a lot more,and same goes to Demons Souls,GOTY and all. By the end of the year it will have sold a lot more,and this is not a huge release like other games,it´s a niche RPG so what were you expecting,CoD numbers?

Learn to be realistic and don´t say nonsense.

Hype on internet boards is not the same as have marketing campaigns on tv and all over the place like some games have and TW2 most certainly did not.

The comparision with console games was mostly about Demos Souls,a game that is also a niche game(and in the same genre) that is also pretty hyped on internet boards but not in the "real world",and TW2 even managed to sell about as much as DS did in less than two months(and DS came out in 2009),so it´s pretty darn impressive,and considering the game will sell a lot more(first one is over 2M already and had even less hype than this one)...

Again,how many games with the level of marketing and advertising sell as much as TW2 in the same relative time? Very,very few. The only ones remotely similar that may sell more are Bethesda and Bioware games,and simply because those games have huge marketing behind them from EA and Bethesda.

Also,Diablo 3 is in general the most hyped PC exclusive RPG,and for obvious reasons it will sell much,much more than TW2.

Are we still pretending this is impressive? a game with a massive backround, which clearly isnt indie. as only yet to break a million? its good. but nothing to write home about in the slightest.....PC360Wii

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Are we still pretending this is impressive? a game with a massive backround, which clearly isnt indie. as only yet to break a million? its good. but nothing to write home about in the slightest.....PC360Wii

Tell me how many games with the level of TW2 marketing campaign sold a million in less than two months please,because that´s already more than what the majority of console games sell.

If this was Alan Wake(that had a pretty big marketing campaign and way higher expectations)it would be another thing,and basically TW2 sold about as much as it in less than two months,and will sell a lot more,and same goes to Demons Souls,GOTY and all. By the end of the year it will have sold a lot more,and this is not a huge release like other games,it´s a niche RPG so what were you expecting,CoD numbers?

Learn to be realistic and don´t say nonsense.

It was a direct competitor to Bioware's style RPG, with industry leading graphics (RPGs), copying the now not niche Demon Souls.

I think peopel forget when a company stops going indie.

Profit is more important than sales. Right now the witcher 2 is probably more profitable than crysis2.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

Tell me how many games with the level of TW2 marketing campaign sold a million in less than two months please,because that´s already more than what the majority of console games sell.

If this was Alan Wake(that had a pretty big marketing campaign and way higher expectations)it would be another thing,and basically TW2 sold about as much as it in less than two months,and will sell a lot more,and same goes to Demons Souls,GOTY and all. By the end of the year it will have sold a lot more,and this is not a huge release like other games,it´s a niche RPG so what were you expecting,CoD numbers?

Learn to be realistic and don´t say nonsense.

topgunmv

It was a direct competitor to Bioware's style RPG, with industry leading graphics (RPGs), copying the now not niche Demon Souls.

I think peopel forget when a company stops going indie.

Profit is more important than sales. Right now the witcher 2 is probably more profitable than crysis2.

That reminds me of all the things Crytek said about single player only games not selling on PC they I wonder how they feel when looking at this :P