CES: Microsoft's LBP will be free, Sony's still costs 60$

Um....where does it say that Kodu will be free? It may not be $60, but I doubt it's free. Lab392

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2009/0107-kodu.htm

Cows please append this cost to your 'REAL Cost of PS3 vs 360.txt' notepad file. You know the one you paste over and over again here, the one that has "Xbox 360 $299 + HD_DVD $199 + 10 yrs of XBOXLIVE $600 + Wireless $100 + 120GB HD $200 + Electricity......yadda yadda ....... + Kodu $0 "

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

Whats next

Microsoft Apartment (Home lool)

savezone2

slave of war 3 :D

thrillh0

Nah, more like Deathzone 2, Dieties of Battle 3, Gran Torino5 (racing), Small Large Globe (featuring Burlap girl), Alloy Cog Liquid 4 (death of Liguid Sepent)

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]What about XBLIVE fees?warmaster670

its rather funny that xbox fans DONT complain about fees, no matter how much they are when other people get the same thing for free.

you can try to rationlize being ripped off all you want but your still being ripped off.

Its funny how PS3 fans pay $57 more dollars a year on electricity to run their PS3's when compared to the 360. Paying $7 more then XBL. They can try to rationalize being ripped off by an energy inefficent machine all you want but in the end your paying more to play your PS3 then a 360 owner is paying for XBL.

http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=106346&catId=100245&tid=100008&p=5&title=Computers%27+energy+costs

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"] what about them? PSN is still behind and if $4.17 a month is too much for you, then how did you ever purchase your PS3 and 250GB HDD for it? Rather funny that you'd complain about a fee that was once surpassed by gasoline for one gallon. Blackbond

its rather funny that xbox fans DONT complain about fees, no matter how much they are when other people get the same thing for free.

you can try to rationlize being ripped off all you want but your still being ripped off.

Its funny how PS3 fans pay $57 more dollars a year on electricity to run their PS3's when compared to the 360. Paying $7 more then XBL. They can try to rationalize being ripped off by an energy inefficent machine all you want but in the end your paying more to play your PS3 then a 360 owner is paying for XBL.

http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=106346&catId=100245&tid=100008&p=5&title=Computers%27+energy+costs

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]

its rather funny that xbox fans DONT complain about fees, no matter how much they are when other people get the same thing for free.

you can try to rationlize being ripped off all you want but your still being ripped off.

munu9

Its funny how PS3 fans pay $57 more dollars a year on electricity to run their PS3's when compared to the 360. Paying $7 more then XBL. They can try to rationalize being ripped off by an energy inefficent machine all you want but in the end your paying more to play your PS3 then a 360 owner is paying for XBL.

http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=106346&catId=100245&tid=100008&p=5&title=Computers%27+energy+costs

How is it grapsing? Do you not have to pay for both? Do you not pay more on the PS3's energy cost compared to XBL in the end? Come on now, everyone's preaching teh hidden feez!

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]

its rather funny that xbox fans DONT complain about fees, no matter how much they are when other people get the same thing for free.

you can try to rationlize being ripped off all you want but your still being ripped off.

munu9

Its funny how PS3 fans pay $57 more dollars a year on electricity to run their PS3's when compared to the 360. Paying $7 more then XBL. They can try to rationalize being ripped off by an energy inefficent machine all you want but in the end your paying more to play your PS3 then a 360 owner is paying for XBL.

http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=106346&catId=100245&tid=100008&p=5&title=Computers%27+energy+costs

[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Its funny how PS3 fans pay $57 more dollars a year on electricity to run their PS3's when compared to the 360. Paying $7 more then XBL. They can try to rationalize being ripped off by an energy inefficent machine all you want but in the end your paying more to play your PS3 then a 360 owner is paying for XBL.

http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=106346&catId=100245&tid=100008&p=5&title=Computers%27+energy+costs

carljohnson3456

LBP looks a lot more intuitive while still being able to do just as much if not more. On a side note, LMAO, microsoft and their circle/360 fetishes :lol:munu9

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="munu9"] Every electronic device uses energy and costs money. It's not a choice of the manufacturer. Paying for online on the other hand is not typically of every online service and the provider CAN make a choice about it. The XBL charges is grasping for straws but energy cost consideration is even more grasping for straws. Dreams-Visions

How is it grapsing? Do you not have to pay for both? Do you not pay more on the PS3's energy cost compared to XBL in the end? Come on now, everyone's preaching teh hidden feez!

Blackbond

[QUOTE="munu9"]LBP looks a lot more intuitive while still being able to do just as much if not more. On a side note, LMAO, microsoft and their circle/360 fetishes :lol:Dreams-Visions

I wouldn't. Energy cost is a function of design choices. they could have rapped down the speed of the CPU or GPU, saving energy, saving cost.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Glad to know MS is ripping off LBP nowThe_Game21x

But you can't deny that Kodu is a direct response to LBP.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] I wouldn't. Energy cost is a function of design choices. they could have rapped down the speed of the CPU or GPU, saving energy, saving cost.munu9

And is that why the Wii uses as much energy as a toaster?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="munu9"]LBP looks a lot more intuitive while still being able to do just as much if not more. On a side note, LMAO, microsoft and their circle/360 fetishes :lol:munu9

Or make a 3 digit calculator.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

How is it grapsing? Do you not have to pay for both? Do you not pay more on the PS3's energy cost compared to XBL in the end? Come on now, everyone's preaching teh hidden feez!

munu9

It's grasping for straws :| Might as well start counting the amount of dust each console collects. The more dust it collects, you have to use energy to clean it up, which requires energy, you need food for energy = higher cost in food :| Plus even more if you use any type of cleaner to clean your console. How maybe if I like the PS3, which causes less stress, which makes more more productive in life = more money saved. Are you getting my point yet?

Facts that are a neccesity with no work around is not grasping for straws.

Dust? Now that's grasping for straws lol. I'm not sure if you pay for dust but I sure as hell don't.

Cleaning your console is not mandatory, stress is not mandatory as I don't stress, paying your electric bill is mandatory. Less you don't want electricity.

Really going at cleaning supplies and stress? Paying bills is mandatory my man. Same as paying to play on XBL. You don't pay then you don't play (er play online in 360's case)

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="munu9"] Lets see them make tetris with it and then we'll see... munu9

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] I wouldn't. Energy cost is a function of design choices. they could have rapped down the speed of the CPU or GPU, saving energy, saving cost.munu9

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Glad to know MS is ripping off LBP nowDealRogers

First, how would you prove that? Do you have a source that justifies the claim that it's a direct response to LBP?

Second, You needn't bother searching for that source because I already know there's no way you could prove that based on teh simple fact that Kodu (known as Boku at the time) has been in development since early 2007, around the same time LittleBigPlanet was announced. Seeing as it was at least in development in such close proximity to LittleBigPlanet's announcement. There's no way Kodu could be a direct response to it.

[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] LBP does nowhere near as much. look again.dream431ca

Or make a 3 digit calculator.

[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] I wouldn't. Energy cost is a function of design choices. they could have rapped down the speed of the CPU or GPU, saving energy, saving cost.Blackbond

And is that why the Wii uses as much energy as a toaster?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="munu9"] Why would any console designer with half a brain design a console around reducing energy cost? Energy cost is an involuntary effect of how they want their console to play. If they want it to be a media powerhouse or a simple game machine. Teufelhuhn

And is that why the Wii uses as much energy as a toaster?

I think it has more potential.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I think it has more potential.Teufelhuhn

you can actually learn the core concepts of programming from Kodu. that gives it more potential all by itself. Kodu has the potential to spur the interest and ultimately create future computer scientists and engineers. I can envision Kodu in K-12 ****ooms. I can see it.

But yes, I agree that it will require more work to get lots out of Kodu. the thing is, it seems to keep the experience entertaining enough for time to just pass.

Aside from the creation aspect, I don't see much in common between the two.

And wasn't this already discussed a few times?

Besides, Gary's mod and LBP are different. Let me show you guys my post from the thread a few days ago.

LittleBIGPlanet is a game, Gary's mod is not.

Don't get me wrong, Gary's mod is really cool. But its not a game. It doesn't have levels, or minigames, or a way to win or ever complete a story. Its just a drop dead awesome application really.

LittleBIGPlanet has levels, rewards, timers, a story (somewhat, I was lost by it as well), and minigames.

Which is why I see LBP as an innovative GAME. Gary's mod is more of an innovative APPLICATION.

verbtex

Aside from the creation aspect, I don't see much in common between the two.

And wasn't this already discussed a few times?

Besides, Gary's mod and LBP are different. Let me show you guys my post from the thread a few days ago.

verbtex

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Aside from the creation aspect, I don't see much in common between the two.

And wasn't this already discussed a few times?

Besides, Gary's mod and LBP are different. Let me show you guys my post from the thread a few days ago.

Dreams-Visions

But some claim this as a rip off of LBP, I fail to see many similarities between them.

Isn't this just like XNA? LBP, is a game, and an amazing one at that.Couth_

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="munu9"] Lets see them make tetris with it and then we'll see... Dreams-Visions

Or make a 3 digit calculator.

You can do that using emitters and certain objects in LBP.

Still, I agree with your point, that Kodu/Boku and LBP aren't really competitors. Kodu is a programming language/environment for creating games, similar in function to Klik 'n Play back in the day. LittleBigPlanet is a platforming game, with an extremely well-developed and accessible tool for creating levels in that platforming game. One is a programming language, the other is a game. They aren't directly comparable, even if they perform a few of the same functions.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Kodu (which is Boku) is a programming language, not really a game.thrillh0

Did you even read the frickin article?? First line:

[QUOTE="Xbox dot com"]

Xbox 360® players become creators with the release of Microsoft's new game, Kodu. Launching on the Xbox LIVE® Community Games Channel, Kodu has easy-to-use game creation techniques that make building personal playgrounds simple for anyone, with the help of an Xbox 360 controller.

I work with .Net and Java, and have to use a keyboard. I dont know of any languages that let you use a 360 controller.

Kodu != XNA.

Glad to know MS is ripping off LBP nowAnimal-Mother

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

Aside from the creation aspect, I don't see much in common between the two.

And wasn't this already discussed a few times?

Besides, Gary's mod and LBP are different. Let me show you guys my post from the thread a few days ago.

verbtex

But some claim this as a rip off of LBP, I fail to see many similarities between them.

[QUOTE="thrillh0"]

Did you even read the frickin article?? First line:

[QUOTE="Xbox dot com"]

Xbox 360® players become creators with the release of Microsoft's new game, Kodu. Launching on the Xbox LIVE® Community Games Channel, Kodu has easy-to-use game creation techniques that make building personal playgrounds simple for anyone, with the help of an Xbox 360 controller.

AdmiralBison

I work with .Net and Java, and have to use a keyboard. I dont know of any languages that let you use a 360 controller.

Kodu != XNA.

You fail. How about we ask Microsoft?

Kodu is a new visual programming language made specifically for creating games.

Since you like it big for effect....

Kodu is a new visual programming language made specifically for creating games.

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/kodu/

Want to try calling me a cow or wrong again?

Bu-but Lemmings HATE making levels! THEY WANNA PLAY REAL GAMES!!!! :cry:TenP

I think we need to see more of this game to find whether it is really in the same league as LBP, its all good saying that your version is free, but i would pay $60 for halo3 before being given say, haze for free so untill then this isnt a 'Free little big planet'sumner1456

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="thrillh0"]

I work with .Net and Java, and have to use a keyboard. I dont know of any languages that let you use a 360 controller.

Kodu != XNA.

SpruceCaboose

You fail. How about we ask Microsoft?

Kodu is a new visual programming language made specifically for creating games.

Since you like it big for effect....

Kodu is a new visual programming language made specifically for creating games.

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/kodu/

Want to try calling me a cow or wrong again?

Pwnage sauce on the double!

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="munu9"] Every electronic device uses energy and costs money. It's not a choice of the manufacturer. Paying for online on the other hand is not typically of every online service and the provider CAN make a choice about it. The XBL charges is grasping for straws but energy cost consideration is even more grasping for straws. Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] I wouldn't. Energy cost is a function of design choices. they could have rapped down the speed of the CPU or GPU, saving energy, saving cost.munu9

Pwnage sauce on the double!

GodofBigMacs

Since when is anything from MS free, I highly doubt it. EmperorSupreme