C'mon guys, face it, nothing on Consoles beats Crysis!

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Why do console owners continue to try and claim Crysis has been beaten by games like MGS4 and Gears 2???

If you have a fully beefed up PC (which i dont), nothing can touch Crysis. There are certain games that maybe slightly better it in terms of art style but, on a technical level, it blows most other stuff out the water.

Also, enough with the MGS4 argument! Yes, during cutscenes MGS4 has some great animation, but during gameplay (which is what is most important), the movements look rigid and unrealistic.

Yes, it's nice that other games got a chance at the graphics award this year, but don't go thinking that MGS4 and Gears 2 have some how beaten Crysis.

Oh, and I am not a PC fanboy type... I own a reasonable system but it's not a gaming PC. I do most my gaming on the PS3

The only bad thing you can say about crysis is that MOST pc gamers have not experienced it in its full glory due to hardware limitations.

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why do you consider the graphics department to be so important? i find console-level graphics to be quite acceptable, and cheaper, as i only possess about 5 games, with maybe one or two to come in the next year, and old ones to be sold.

so, to summarize, pc is great, yes. but consoles are fine with me.

and to actually answer your question, anyone who fools themselves into thinking consoles are more powerful than pcs, are fools themselves.

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I don't see the point of this thread. If you are sane then you would know that Crysis beats everything out their:)
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why do you consider the graphics department to be so important? i find console-level graphics to be quite acceptable, and cheaper, as i only possess about 5 games, with maybe one or two to come in the next year, and old ones to be sold.

so, to summarize, pc is great, yes. but consoles are fine with me.

and to actually answer your question, anyone who fools themselves into thinking consoles are more powerful than pcs, are fools themselves.

thesmiter
even without it's graphics crysis is still one of the best shooters and graphics along don't win soty 07 and runner up to goty 07
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Dude, the horse is dead...stop kicking it. Everyone knows Crysis has the best graphics, even the fanboys who deny it. :P
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MGS4 looks better because it won the graphics award.
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Why do console owners continue to try and claim Crysis has been beaten by games like MGS4 and Gears 2???

If you have a fully beefed up PC (which i dont), nothing can touch Crysis. There are certain games that maybe slightly better it in terms of art style but, on a technical level, it blows most other stuff out the water.

Also, enough with the MGS4 argument! Yes, during cutscenes MGS4 has some great animation, but during gameplay (which is what is most important), the movements look rigid and unrealistic.

Yes, it's nice that other games got a chance at the graphics award this year, but don't go thinking that MGS4 and Gears 2 have some how beaten Crysis.

Oh, and I am not a PC fanboy type... I own a reasonable system but it's not a gaming PC. I do most my gaming on the PS3

The only bad thing you can say about crysis is that MOST pc gamers have not experienced it in its full glory due to hardware limitations.

thetruespin

1. The art of Crysis is not good for me, thus many other games are vastly more appealing to look at

2. Crysis is not the end of all gaming, it is a boring shooter, i like RPGs, so any RPG and their epic art is better than a the generic jungles of Crysis to me

So, what are you talking about ? An good engine does not make a game the best evar, just a good looking game for those that like that art i hate that is

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[QUOTE="thesmiter"]

why do you consider the graphics department to be so important? i find console-level graphics to be quite acceptable, and cheaper, as i only possess about 5 games, with maybe one or two to come in the next year, and old ones to be sold.

so, to summarize, pc is great, yes. but consoles are fine with me.

and to actually answer your question, anyone who fools themselves into thinking consoles are more powerful than pcs, are fools themselves.

imprezawrx500

even without it's graphics crysis is still one of the best shooters and graphics along don't win soty 07 and runner up to goty 07

i'm sure it is a good game. i am ignorant in the matter of how good it is, though, as i have been unable to play it. i answered as to the graphics, which are universally accepted to be top quality, and usually bring up the biggest nonsensical arguments.

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MGS4 looks better because it won the graphics award.Lto_thaG
I agree
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]MGS4 looks better because it won the graphics award.bethwo
I agree

Yes I agree too, because GS said so.

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[QUOTE="bethwo"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]MGS4 looks better because it won the graphics award.EZs

I agree

Yes I agree too, because GS said so.

Exactly. Hermits are just jealous.
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[QUOTE="EZs"]

[QUOTE="bethwo"] I agreebethwo

Yes I agree too, because GS said so.

Exactly. Hermits are just jealous.

I'll have to concur with you guys. MGS4 > Crysis.
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There's a lot more to graphics than people even think about as far as awards go. At first glance , it is easy to see the eyecandy of crysis and know that the resolution or "photo-realism" is higher ...... but when you play both games in their entirety you start to understand and process what's being rendered , how it looks as a cohesive experience , how it performers within the world and gameplay scenarios , and everything about the visual experience. Awards aren't probably just meant to just shine light on some technical feats in games or certain superiority in spots , but how well it all works together and performers for the game itself.

Nobody is denying that Crysis looks great or better than MGS4 on the surface if you show a screenshot of a section of a game , but it doesn't feel like a very cohesive game in comparison .... with inconsistent visual design .... not to mention the pop-in , bugs/gliches , and weird animations/physics anomalies over a 5 hour experience. Those might not have been in abundance to make the game not great technically , but it doesn't feel as polished and cohesive as it should given the surface wow factor when you're actually playing it as MGS4.

What MGS4 gives up is resolution or photo-realism or a texture comparison.... it supersedes that with striking visuals , terrific design and renders , cohesion and immersion , great effects , high polish , smooth performance , impressive transitions .... all through an epic 20+ hour game with so many different kinds of gameplay aspects for the platfrom they are working with. The kind of engine that they had to put together to pull off the war scenarios with lots of enemies battling each other , otoc-camo design , vehicle chase scenes , shooting and effects , Gekko encounters , hand to hand combat , mech battle , split screen (gameplay/cutscenes) , cutscene to gameplay transitions , boss battles , AI and animations , codec visuals , character models ..... all while looking impressive and cohesive over a 20+ hour game is just completely bananas.It was a stunning achievement.

But hey , I'm not graphics expert .... just a casual observer giving people another angle to put the best graphics awards in a bit of context.

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why do you consider the graphics department to be so important? i find console-level graphics to be quite acceptable, and cheaper, as i only possess about 5 games, with maybe one or two to come in the next year, and old ones to be sold.

so, to summarize, pc is great, yes. but consoles are fine with me.

and to actually answer your question, anyone who fools themselves into thinking consoles are more powerful than pcs, are fools themselves.

thesmiter
In his defence there are so many threads every day arguing that *insert conole* is the king of graphics, if these console fanboys are really so obsessed with graphics they should just join the PC crowd were graphics really set the standard.
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why do you consider the graphics department to be so important? i find console-level graphics to be quite acceptable, and cheaper, as i only possess about 5 games, with maybe one or two to come in the next year, and old ones to be sold.

so, to summarize, pc is great, yes. but consoles are fine with me.

and to actually answer your question, anyone who fools themselves into thinking consoles are more powerful than pcs, are fools themselves.

thesmiter
Sheer technical power can vastly improve your gaming experience. And that "technical power" is a very broad spectrum.
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[QUOTE="bethwo"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]MGS4 looks better because it won the graphics award.EZs

I agree

Yes I agree too, because GS said so.

I, too, agree. I used to think Crysis looked better than MGSIV after playing both, but Gamespot showed me the error of my ways. ALL HAIL GAMESPOT.

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#17 pp222
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If you look past the graphic buzz Crysis is just another FPS that looks nice. You need more than awesome graphics to make an awesome game.
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We know, for the last time, Crysis is graphics king, period.
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If you look past the graphic buzz Crysis is just another FPS that looks nice. You need more than awesome graphics to make an awesome game.pp222

Luckily, Crysis was awesome gameplay as well!

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#20 EuroMafia
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If you look past the graphic buzz Crysis is just another FPS that looks nice. You need more than awesome graphics to make an awesome game.pp222
It also has great gameplay, but your sig explains it all, and you also gave Metroid Prime a 4/10
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This is quite sad. Hermits have so little to be proud of...
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This is quite sad. Hermits have so little to be proud of...skektek
Indeed.In a time where SW is all about graphics,hermits have the game that beats it all. :(
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[QUOTE="thesmiter"]

why do you consider the graphics department to be so important? i find console-level graphics to be quite acceptable, and cheaper, as i only possess about 5 games, with maybe one or two to come in the next year, and old ones to be sold.

so, to summarize, pc is great, yes. but consoles are fine with me.

and to actually answer your question, anyone who fools themselves into thinking consoles are more powerful than pcs, are fools themselves.

Stevo_the_gamer

Sheer technical power can vastly improve your gaming experience. And that "technical power" is a very broad spectrum.

i'm quite fine with the technical power of the games i play on consoles. cod4, oblivion, those are basically the only games i play. i don't need this 'technical power' you're refering to. i really don't. games are games.

i play on a crappy 6 year-old tv that blacks out for a second whenever a flashbang is thrown. this really doesn't make a difference to me. i don't understand why some people absolutely can't play unless they're playing the most advanced, graphically stunning pcs and games on the best hd screens with ridiculous sound set-ups, and over $35-$40 on a mouse and keyboard. wow...

i guess i'll never understand.

slower loads and downgraded graphics are fine. they're faster and prettier than last gen, so i'm happy.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="thesmiter"]

why do you consider the graphics department to be so important? i find console-level graphics to be quite acceptable, and cheaper, as i only possess about 5 games, with maybe one or two to come in the next year, and old ones to be sold.

so, to summarize, pc is great, yes. but consoles are fine with me.

and to actually answer your question, anyone who fools themselves into thinking consoles are more powerful than pcs, are fools themselves.

thesmiter

Sheer technical power can vastly improve your gaming experience. And that "technical power" is a very broad spectrum.

i'm quite fine with the technical power of the games i play on consoles. cod4, oblivion, those are basically the only games i play. i don't need this 'technical power' you're refering to. i really don't. games are games.

i play on a crappy 6 year-old tv that blacks out for a second whenever a flashbang is thrown. this really doesn't make a difference to me. i don't understand why some people absolutely can't play unless they're playing the most advanced, graphically stunning pcs and games on the best hd screens with ridiculous sound set-ups, and over $35-$40 on a mouse and keyboard. wow...

i guess i'll never understand.

slower loads and downgraded graphics are fine. they're faster and prettier than last gen, so i'm happy.

Some people want top-of-the-line graphics and expensive input devices. I don't see why it's so hard to understand that not everybody is like you.

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I don't see the point of this thread. If you are sane then you would know that Crysis beats everything out their:)JangoWuzHere

There's your problem :P

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Another Crysis thread?? It got beat this year there is no changing that fact no matter how it's worded.:roll:
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Another Crysis thread?? It got beat this year there is no changing that fact no matter how it's worded.:roll:jasonheyman

Nobody mentioned any award, they are just saying how Crysis has the best graphics. Which it does.

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[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Another Crysis thread?? It got beat this year there is no changing that fact no matter how it's worded.:roll:steve17989

Nobody mentioned any award, they are just saying how Crysis has the best graphics. Which it does.

And if it had the best graphics wheres it's award stating that?

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#30 mo0ksi
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Enough with the Crysis threads already. There are better PC exclusives.
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[QUOTE="steve17989"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Another Crysis thread?? It got beat this year there is no changing that fact no matter how it's worded.:roll:jasonheyman

Nobody mentioned any award, they are just saying how Crysis has the best graphics. Which it does.

And if it had the best graphics wheres it's award stating that?

THINK for YOURSELF
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It's true...
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hermit talk about crysis graphics for how long now? is there any other pc dev who want to challenge it ?
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Why do console owners continue to try and claim Crysis has been beaten by games like MGS4 and Gears 2???

If you have a fully beefed up PC (which i dont), nothing can touch Crysis. There are certain games that maybe slightly better it in terms of art style but, on a technical level, it blows most other stuff out the water.

Also, enough with the MGS4 argument! Yes, during cutscenes MGS4 has some great animation, but during gameplay (which is what is most important), the movements look rigid and unrealistic.

Yes, it's nice that other games got a chance at the graphics award this year, but don't go thinking that MGS4 and Gears 2 have some how beaten Crysis.

Oh, and I am not a PC fanboy type... I own a reasonable system but it's not a gaming PC. I do most my gaming on the PS3

The only bad thing you can say about crysis is that MOST pc gamers have not experienced it in its full glory due to hardware limitations.

thetruespin

Why would a PC gamer care what console gamers do?

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There's a lot more to graphics than people even think about as far as awards go. At first glance , it is easy to see the eyecandy of crysis and know that the resolution or "photo-realism" is higher ...... but when you play both games in their entirety you start to understand and process what's being rendered , how it looks as a cohesive experience , how it performers within the world and gameplay scenarios , and everything about the visual experience. Awards aren't probably just meant to just shine light on some technical feats in games or certain superiority in spots , but how well it all works together and performers for the game itself.

Nobody is denying that Crysis looks great or better than MGS4 on the surface if you show a screenshot of a section of a game , but it doesn't feel like a very cohesive game in comparison .... with inconsistent visual design .... not to mention the pop-in , bugs/gliches , and weird animations/physics anomalies over a 5 hour experience. Those might not have been in abundance to make the game not great technically , but it doesn't feel as polished and cohesive as it should given the surface wow factor when you're actually playing it as MGS4.

What MGS4 gives up is resolution or photo-realism or a texture comparison.... it supersedes that with striking visuals , terrific design and renders , cohesion and immersion , great effects , high polish , smooth performance , impressive transitions .... all through an epic 20+ hour game with so many different kinds of gameplay aspects for the platfrom they are working with. The kind of engine that they had to put together to pull off the war scenarios with lots of enemies battling each other , otoc-camo design , vehicle chase scenes , shooting and effects , Gekko encounters , hand to hand combat , mech battle , split screen (gameplay/cutscenes) , cutscene to gameplay transitions , boss battles , AI and animations , codec visuals , character models ..... all while looking impressive and cohesive over a 20+ hour game is just completely bananas.It was a stunning achievement.

But hey , I'm not graphics expert .... just a casual observer giving people another angle to put the best graphics awards in a bit of context.

Nike_Air
This cohesion and polished look are more down to the art style of MGS4 than anything technical. Yes, the game looks great but not 'technically' better than crysis. There is no single graphical process that MGS2 does that Crysis Warhead doesn't do far better. Including anything else into the comparison is steering the discussion away from the 'technical' and into something that is based on peoples tastes and opinions. On a side note, the TC should have made it clear he was talking about graphics and not gameplay. I have no problem MGS4 winning GOTY but I still am puzzled by it winning best graphics: technical lol
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Crysis has no graphic design halo is a much better game. Halo is really good, shame you PC gamers have never had the chance to try it. Crysis has like no players cause it's bad, halo has loads. Halo is the best game to ever be released.
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Crysis has no graphic design halo is a much better game. Halo is really good, shame you PC gamers have never had the chance to try it. Crysis has like no players cause it's bad, halo has loads. Halo is the best game to ever be released.
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This is so true. Most PC games like Crysis has no absolute artistic design and are just looking flatout realism. While you have games on consoles like Okami which are true works of art. This is why I prefer consoles.

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[QUOTE="xboxfan990"]Crysis has no graphic design halo is a much better game. Halo is really good, shame you PC gamers have never had the chance to try it. Crysis has like no players cause it's bad, halo has loads. Halo is the best game to ever be released.
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This is so true. Most PC games like Crysis has no absolute artistic design and are just looking flatout realism. While you have games on consoles like Okami which are true works of art. This is why I prefer consoles.

What about Warsow?

Its a PC game with amazing art

Oh and its free.

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nah man halo is way better than warsow
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Another Crysis thread?? It got beat this year there is no changing that fact no matter how it's worded.:roll:jasonheyman
Coming from the guy that creates endless anti-PC threads that are all pretty much the same thing.
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Why do console owners continue to try and claim Crysis has been beaten by games like MGS4 and Gears 2???

If you have a fully beefed up PC (which i dont), nothing can touch Crysis. There are certain games that maybe slightly better it in terms of art style but, on a technical level, it blows most other stuff out the water.

Also, enough with the MGS4 argument! Yes, during cutscenes MGS4 has some great animation, but during gameplay (which is what is most important), the movements look rigid and unrealistic.

Yes, it's nice that other games got a chance at the graphics award this year, but don't go thinking that MGS4 and Gears 2 have some how beaten Crysis.

Oh, and I am not a PC fanboy type... I own a reasonable system but it's not a gaming PC. I do most my gaming on the PS3

The only bad thing you can say about crysis is that MOST pc gamers have not experienced it in its full glory due to hardware limitations.

graphics, yes, you're absolutely right. and yes, even the gameplay, for shooters, is quite good. personally, however, i enjoy the experiences of MGS4 and Gears2 more. but that's just my opinion. but, yes, also, Crysis got robbed for graphics GOTY at GS.
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#43 clone01
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Another Crysis thread?? It got beat this year there is no changing that fact no matter how it's worded.:roll:jasonheyman
what's wrong with that? MGS4 getting graphics GOTY is a hot button topic here right now. TC has every right to create this thread, just like you have every right to create your anti-PC threads.
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#44 GTR2addict
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[QUOTE="bethwo"][QUOTE="EZs"]

Yes I agree too, because GS said so.

Floppy_Jim

Exactly. Hermits are just jealous.

I'll have to concur with you guys. MGS4 > Crysis.

screw gamespot, and crysis >>>> all

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#46 The_Game21x
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Beating a Dead Horse

Stop beating it. It's dead.

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#47 Lto_thaG
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Stop beating it. It's dead.

The_Game21x
I thought it was a kangaroo :(
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#48 shakmaster13
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my sig shows how i feel about all of this
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#49 Lto_thaG
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my sig shows how i feel about all of thisshakmaster13
Pretty much,yea.
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#50 Vexx88
Member since 2006 • 33342 Posts
Oooo look at crysis graphics there so amazing. Don't mind the shallow gameplay and lack of modes. >_>