CNN host tries and fails to link videogames to violence, David Jaffe Responds

Agreeing with him isn't placing importance on it. You are however making it seem like he was trying to convince people otherwise with his rant, when it was really just a rant full of good points.

GD1551

For a post that wasn't meant to convince anyone, it sure was written that way. And he did tag her and CNN, so obviously he did intend for her to see it. 

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Then what was he looking for? Catharsis? Not very constructive.GD1551

It's a twitter post, and his points are very constructive no matter how they come across. 

Can you imagine what fuel he adds to this stupid fire when they find out that he is indeed an adult who designs games? Then, god forbid they take a look at God Of War?I can see it now, "Not only do video games cause you to become a mass murderer, they also turn our kids into blithering idiots."

Way to go Jaffe.

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Agreeing with him isn't placing importance on it. You are however making it seem like he was trying to convince people otherwise with his rant, when it was really just a rant full of good points.

Cherokee_Jack

For a post that wasn't meant to convince anyone, it sure was written that way. And he did tag her and CNN, so obviously he did intend for her to see it. 

Of course he intended her to see it but do you really think he's stupid enough to think that he'd be trying to change her mind by calling her an idiot straight out of the gate? 

The staggering level of stupidity displayed by all parties in this makes me laugh.  I'm not sure what exactly blinds people to the truth, be it religion, culture, philosophy or just the wiring in our brains but it's pretty obvious that video games have nothing to do with violence in our culture.  In fact they are a product of us, the human being.

We are, at our heart, violent and savage.  We are animals after all and if history has taught us anything (and it should have) it is that no matter the time, the place, the culture, the philosophy or the people, violence of the highest order has always existed.  Your country, my country and every other nation on earth is guilty of it.  Not just now but throughout all of the time we have existed.

Have people forgotten that there we times we turned out in our droves to see people executed in the most vicious and unforgiving of manners? That we cheered it and made it a social event? No, it's not that we are violent at heart, it's that product of our innate violence (video games) that are causing our societal problems :roll:.

Funny how here guest says twice "there is no proof that video games make people kill people" and the **** reporter tries to change the subject to something else quickly and when he says it again at the end.. she says "thank you for taking your time and giving us some ugh uugh ugh provicative answers there" as she makes a squinched upset face , probably thinking "well that backfired".

The biotc2 was making things up. How horrifying it was to kill prostotiutes... well, you can kill anyone in GTA4, anyone, and take their cash, you never get points for it. And secondly you don't have to kill anyone but bad guys if you don't want to... its all up to you. The game never forces killing innocent people on you. Did this Biot_ch ever play a game in her life? Probably not , the stuck up snot, probably a rich girl who went to a top school on daddy's dime and looked down on all who didn't have a 6 figure salary or look like a model (just speculation as this lady makes me sick!!!)

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Agreeing with him isn't placing importance on it. You are however making it seem like he was trying to convince people otherwise with his rant, when it was really just a rant full of good points.

GD1551

For a post that wasn't meant to convince anyone, it sure was written that way. And he did tag her and CNN, so obviously he did intend for her to see it. 

Of course he intended her to see it but do you really think he's stupid enough to think that he'd be trying to change her mind by calling her an idiot straight out of the gate? 

Facts won't change opinions as strong and ignorant as hers no matter how polite

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

For a post that wasn't meant to convince anyone, it sure was written that way. And he did tag her and CNN, so obviously he did intend for her to see it. 

wis3boi

Of course he intended her to see it but do you really think he's stupid enough to think that he'd be trying to change her mind by calling her an idiot straight out of the gate? 

Facts won't change opinions as strong and ignorant as hers no matter how polite

Erin Burnett = Gamespot Fanboy

David Jaffe = Multicore

I would pay money to see a talkshow where David Jaffe and Hideki Kamiya just talk. preferably about things that piss them off.

crimsonman1245

Epic good sh!t!! Sombody tell them, the ownage would ogasmic.:shock:

you just know way back in the dim past some guy was blaming cave paintings for corrupting the youth of the paleo world.

nice comeback, but i think his response should have been a lot more respectful because  as much as we know what we are talking about, acting hostille or combatative isn't going to get the other side to understand video games and gamers

jsmoke03

Very good response, but to put Erin Burnett in her place is something of cakewalk proportions. She's an awful journalist with an awful show.drinkerofjuice

I've done my own reading into the scientific literature to see if there really is evidence for video game-induced violence. There have been dozens of studies done which have shown that adolescents do show increased agression after playing violent video games due to a variety of factors such as stress whilst playing the game, education, and their own personality traits (i.e. agression varies from person to person). I found one interesting study that actually correlates the amount of time playing GTA4 to moral disengagement (convincing oneself that certain morals no longer apply). I have yet to find a study which shows a direct relationship between video games and violence, but I do find the evidence pretty convincing that such a correlation could exist.

On the other hand, it has been found that co-op games have the opposite affect - they usually cause people to feel calmer.

The point isn't to change her opinion, it's to not make the industry and the people that enjoy it's products not look like fools. It's one thing for someone to think about you in a certain way, but there is certainly no reason to prove them right by acting like an ass.

heretrix

Prove them right how? I don't see why anchors should be above hostile criticism, especially looking at the baggering this one was doing. If people care about the way he presented his argument than his actual points then that's their business. This isn't a first time mistake from the media, this has been going on since mortal kombat, and yet they still imply nonsense despite how much evidence says contrary. They deserve the harshest criticism possible, because they have enormous amounts of power and abuse it solely for self gain.

The News causes more problems with them glorifying the Killers for Ratings then any Video Game. I agree that a Violent Video Game could be the tipping point for someone but that could be said for anything, it doesn't matter what that thing is if someone is that mentally unsound that something like a Violent video game triggers them to massacre people then ANYTHING could tip them off be it by a Violent movie or book, or hell maybe someone said their a freak in the streets. David Jaffe Posted some Valid points however he conveyed them in a Childish way, if we are to educate people that the News is wrong then we need to rise above them and not join their Ranks by getting Angry and using words like *Your a Idiot* it doesn't help. Hes a Average guy that clearly has alot of passion for this Media I don't blame him for going alittle off like this, sure anyone would be annoyed if idots for bagging on your work and saying *It turns People Into Killers* thats horrible.

that b!tch needs some serious facef*cking

I think Erin Burnett is the worst thing CNN owns. I've never liked her, even before this.

I don't see why anchors should be above hostile criticism

GD1551

You're missing the point.

Obviously the host doesn't deserve much respect, but insulting her while laying out an argument that's supposed to be logical is counterproductive. Staying impersonal always gives you an advantage in a debate, no matter how bad the other side is or how strong your points are. Getting hostile serves no purpose.

It's not like Erin Burnett gives a sh*t if she gets "the harshest criticism" anyway. Being on TV makes you numb to it. 

I've never liked David Jaffe before, but today I like him.layton2012

B^U

To the people saying how Jaffe's tone will not change the reporter's mind: obviously she made up her mind a long time ago, and I doubt any rational arguement will change her mind no matter how politely it is presented to her. Jaffe made the right call IMO in making an example out of her, because people far too readily lap up the garbage fed to them by the MSM without questioning the motives behind their coverage.Timstuff

An example to who, other mass media people who will never read it and wouldn't bat an eyelid if they did?

Or her viewers, who would be completely unsurprised that some guy who makes video games is calling her stupid?

As I wrote in my last blog, we are getting sick of repeating ourselves. We're getting sick of bring up valid points and statistics that show violence in video games does not correlate with violence in real life (aggression maybe, but not instilling the will to kill). It's frustrating to continuously go through this year after year, so I don't blame Jaffe for not conducting himself in a professional manner. However, he is a professional, and really should have thought it over before he clicked send. It's different when you just blurt something like that out over the air, but typing up something like that, you always have a minute to read it first.JustPlainLucas

Jaffe is and always will be...THE MAN!

"You win points."

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XD

That's all I need.

You haven't even played GTA. Shut your damn mouth.

She has no credibility in this debate.

David Jaffe owned that B*tch, hard :lol:

lundy86_4

B^U

Slashless

But we dont out number them, I bet most of the world would Lap up violence in Video games is to blame.

No, I think what he did was professional. He could have done far worse, he could have sent hate mail he could have insulted her more than he did the media. It was an aggressive letter, but done in a tasteful wayIantheone

Yeah, he could have sent her a dead ferret in the mail, but instead he just called her an idiot on Twitter.

You know, classy name-calling.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]No, I think what he did was professional. He could have done far worse, he could have sent hate mail he could have insulted her more than he did the media. It was an aggressive letter, but done in a tasteful wayCherokee_Jack

Yeah, he could have sent her a dead ferret in the mail, but instead he just called her an idiot on Twitter.

You know, classy name-calling.

I wonder how many of these people pointing the finger at games have tried playing them for a while. It might give them a different point of view. It's like when Mass Effect was being criticized for the little "sex scene" and Geoff Keighley asks the author critizing it if she's actually played the game, then she just laughs and says "Noo!" The host who was worried about the game hadn't played it either.

Furthermore, I'm getting sick of the gaming community's mob mentality. I hate the "off with their head!" mantra. Seriously guys, if you wanna school the anti-gaming agenda properly, be more tactful and compassionate.FrozenLiquid

I find it so damn annoying. Had to explain to my parents that this simply wasn't true. Fvcking news man

I find it so damn annoying. Had to explain to my parents that this simply wasn't true. Fvcking news man

OB-47

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I find it so damn annoying. Had to explain to my parents that this simply wasn't true. Fvcking news man

Crossel777

I wouldn't say weak minded. They don't really care much for games. Why would they go and research it if it didn't really concern them. They have more important things to do

However, I can imagine this leading many others to shun video games in their household. 

Does anyone even watch TV?
I stopped listening to these weirdos many years ago and it has only done me good.

KungfuKitten

This, thanks to the internet, on demand TV and cable/satellite recording devices i never have to watch **** like this nowadays. Which is why these broadcasters/networks are on such an offensive against any other media but their own.

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Pedro"]This thread is proof that gamers are generally viewed as teenage idiots and is the reason why David Jaffe and the majority of gamers opinions are void outside of the confines of their social network.Pedro

As I wrote in my last blog, we are getting sick of repeating ourselves. We're getting sick of bring up valid points and statistics that show violence in video games does not correlate with violence in real life (aggression maybe, but not instilling the will to kill). It's frustrating to continuously go through this year after year, so I don't blame Jaffe for not conducting himself in a professional manner. However, he is a professional, and really should have thought it over before he clicked send. It's different when you just blurt something like that out over the air, but typing up something like that, you always have a minute to read it first.JustPlainLucas