CoD Black Ops 2 Wii U has more players than KZ Shadow Fall

So, just a couple of reminders here:

• PS4 has sold more than Wii U
• Killzone Shadow Fall sold way more than Black Ops 2 on Wii U (2.1 million for Killzone versus less than 250,000 for Black Ops II on Wii U)
• Black Ops 2 is a two year old game versus seven months for Killzone Shadow Fall
• Killzone: Shadow Fall was just clowned. 'Active online community' my ass.

NeoGAF

LOL Dang

Can't play a game that gets traded in so much.

Also inb4 cows use paying for PS+ as an excuse, which would be fucking hilarious after last gen.

Also Char, see if you can pick up a cheap Borderlands 2 Vita code.

Current online players change all the time. Also, Shadow Fall was hugely traded in.

These are both concurrently taken pictures, there really isn't any excuse.

The last point is an indictment of Killzone Shadow Fall, then, as much as its pathetically low player count is.

It doesn't hurt that Shadow Fall is mehlicious.

PS4>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii U.

In any way shape or form. Those numbers are low but like you said, it sold over 2 million copies which is impressive no matter how you spin it.

Makes you wonder what all these PS4 owners are playing.

Infamous and indie games spring to mind.

And cows were telling us how "great" the multiplayer was.

LOL Cows and sheep. Both are hilarious.

Sure.

Not that that has anything to do with this topic, though.

Killzone has never had a huge multiplayer base, not even for Killzone 2. Newb.

Killzone is boring. Not surprised really.

KZ SF never had a large player count. Game was a huge letdown for me and it looks like most other people too.

This is, in fact, exactly my point.

Lol.

@charizard1605:

You conveniently ignored the rest of my post.

Why don't you show COD ghosts ps4 numbers vs Wii U? You conveniently showed a game that supported you. I bet COD ghosts numbers are waaaaay higher.

What exactly is your point? Like what is the point of saying Black Ops 2 Wii U has more online activity? It's one of the greatest selling FPSs and is known mostly for its online. It also came out for the Wii U at launch when the Wii U didn't have shizzle. Killzone has never had a big online community. Just a small dedicated few. I'm missing the essence here lol.

LOL Failzone.

I would say the 250,000 sales of the Wii U version of the biggest multiplat franchise from last gen is a more serious concern and should be the focus of this thread.

I posted nothing- I am linking to something posted by someone else. These aren't my posts.

And all of this is still ignoring the point that a two year old game that sold less than 250k on a console that is dead has hilariously outperformed a seven month game that sold over 2 million on the most successful console of all time.

Oh yes, Black Ops 2 came out for Wii U at launch, when Wii U didn't have anything. Meanwhile, Killzone of course came out for the PS4 at launch, and as we all know, the PS4 launch was loaded with quality games.

LOL Char has the Cows in a tizzy Lol They are Moo'ing from all parts of the barn

It would be, if we hadn't already covered this point extensively two years ago, and if we also had not established the Wii U as a dead console, not worth the effort to put multiplats on.

The fact that such a game on such a console, then, outdid a premier first party game for the most successful game on the market, is what should in fact be the focus of the thread.

The jimmies have been rustled.

If those are indeed concurrent users, well, that's simply sad.

As if Shadow Fail didn't need another one.

People go next gen for a variety of reasons. You may decide to hold off until you find that big next gen blockbuster game. Others like being early adopters. Launch games sell well for that reason. People are excited for next gen and want something to play. I already got a PS4 and yes I bought games like Battlefield 4 and Assassins Creed 4 because they are superior versions. I also have games like Watch Dogs, MLB The Show, KZ Shadow Fall, and Infamous, which are good games. They run very smoothly and display the PS4's hardware really we.. Do I really care that they're not the next must buy? Not really.

Why? What exactly does it say about either game? Or company?

PlayStation gaming is synonymous with single player gaming. Look at the best selling and highest rated games on the platform last gen. Look at the most hyped games for the PS4 on this forum. That conversation is even older than the Wii U's inability to lure 3rd party publishers.

And IIRC, people bitched about KZ numbers last gen too. Probably the same people who weren't playing and never bought it.

Your point, as I understand it, is that the PS4 had more variety at launch, and thus more choices for the purchases (which is debatable, but for the purposes of this discussion, I won't dispute it, and I'll accept it); so sure, your point would actually hold some water if it wasn't for the direct comparison of 2.1 million copies of Shadow Fall sold versus 250k for Black Ops 2 on Wii U.

Oh man, the DC in here. Anyone want some popcorn?

@charizard1605:

Those numbers are crap for a ps4 game. No doubt about it. However I think it's unfair to ignore the fact that the vast majority of people traded it in and play online in other games.

That's pretty sad. I wonder what time both these pictures were taken

I was on BLOP2 on WiiU the other day and all I could think of was that this version got so much flak because it sold the least and had like 300-900 people playing max seeing how this game didn't seem to die off the face of the earth unlike some games on the other consoles, it just seems funny now when I think about it.

Online is dead on WiiU indeed.

I understand. I agree. But the fact that the game was traded in so much is in itself worrying, then.

Good, then Sony fans should give up on posting online population numbers for games like Battlefield in an attempt to establish PS4 as the home of multiplayer gaming this generation.

Oh dear this thread...it's OK to laugh people. Even if it's at a console and game you spent money on.

@charizard1605: Lets be honest. What other game were people going to buy at launch:-P Knack was crap and KZ was the only decent thing available since Driveclub got delayed.

I own a PS3 but I am not a blind fan that can't realise when things are just the way they are.

I won't buy my PS4 until I have at least 5 games that are on it that I simply MUST play that can't be found on my PS3.

I know lol, that was my point here. This is a game that sold a lot- it sold 2.1 million. It's a newer shooter on a high selling console with a community for online shooters. Somehow, it's less active online than a two year old game on a dead console with no community for online shooters, and a console that already has the successor of that game available too.

There's really no excuse for SF doing as badly as it is.

(also, AC4 was probably the best game to get at PS4's launch!)

What does it mean by 'Recommended Warzones'? Wouldn't there be an option to view 'All Warzones'?

Ouch, even cows don't care about that piece of shit franchise.

Dude I kid you not I don't ever remember Killzone 2 having more than 3000 people at a time (at its peak!!). It's never been a big online game. As for my point. I wasn't really trying to argue anything. You just give me the impression that you read too into the numbers sometimes. Killzone Shadow Fall was bundled with many ps4s, so was Knack.

We have no real facts here.

Does Wii U have a single other online FPS?

Yes, Call of Duty: Ghosts.

Welcome to console gaming.... where even CoD is outmatched by singular PC exclusives in player base. 5 vs 1 included.

How does a game with like units approaching 3 million sold have that little people. Wth GG.

and that 007 game. Other than that nothing. :(

does wiiu even have any other online fps games? serious question, because i doubt it does.

@charizard1605 said:

So, just a couple of reminders here:

• PS4 has sold more than Wii U
• Killzone Shadow Fall sold way more than Black Ops 2 on Wii U (2.1 million for Killzone versus less than 250,000 for Black Ops II on Wii U)
• Black Ops 2 is a two year old game versus seven months for Killzone Shadow Fall
• Killzone: Shadow Fall was just clowned. 'Active online community' my ass.

NeoGAF

I'm not surprised by this at all.

Stupidest comparison ever made.. this makes no sense since there is no mention of time so when was this taken exactly? was it when BO2 released on the WiiU? was the Killzone one taken on a monday morning?

this pretty much means nothing if there is no exact time and day of when both were taken and there are peak times and off peak times