CoD Black Ops 2 Wii U has more players than KZ Shadow Fall

Because Killzone got top billing in all the promotion and hype.

Don't take that up with me, take it up with Sony.

And what of it? Why would I need to play the game to know that it's impossible for it to compete with the best console version of BF 4 as well as CoD Ghosts?

Farming Simulator > Killzone Shadow Fall

irrelevant, but i thought it would be funny to point out

CoD and BF have huge marketing campaigns and are by far the 2 most popular multiplat mp shooter franchises.

Zombie u got top billing in all the promotion and hype. Hows about we compare sales of it to KZ?

Why didn't you check the online community of Ghosts on WiiU?

CoD and BF4 got promotion from third parties; Sony itself billed Killzone, Nintendo pimped out Black Ops 2 at Wii U's launch. Again, take it up with Sony if this means this much to you.

Also, why bring up sales of those games at all? I already admitted sales of Wii U and Wii U games are shit- in fact, that's what my argument is predicated on. Why bring them up? Are you that insecure that you are attempting to make a completely different unrelated argument in order to make yourself feel better about PS4? This seems to be bothering you a lot. Tell me how you really feel.

As I have noted, I checked the online community of nothing. I have neither Black Ops 2 Wii U nor Shadow Fall (or Ghosts on any of these two either, for that matter)- this was a thread on NeoGAF, that I decided to share with System Wars.

woodcutter simulator > KZSF

easy to explain ps4 users have more options to play even with its crappy line up

And once again, this argument would hold water if the ratio of sales for Shadow Fall vs Blops 2 Wii U was not literally 10:1.

And it's not like Wii U owners have nothing to play either, the console has amassed an impressive library of games at this point.

Black ops 2 got promotion from 3rd parties as well.

How did Nintendo pimp out Black Ops 2?

Your argument might hold water if people actually bought Killzone for anything more than checking out the graphics. Why play KZ mp when you can play Ghosts and BF 4?

but....look at this rock

look at it!

Those numbers change all the time, i don't really think this proves anything. You could probably say the same thing with Halo 4 compared to a Wii U game like Mario Kart

lol at Cows

lol at Killzone

lol at Finalstar

and lol Wii U

Wat? Get it nao!

...and this is where you fail. KZ is not the premier launch shooter for PS4. BF4 is the premier launch shooter followed closely by COD. I own all three games since launch and even when KZ was new it barely went above 2000 players. BF4 and COD have always had more players. People enjoy KZ for the graphics and the campaign, hardly anyone touches the MP because BF4 is just way better in every regard when it comes to MP.

Why don't yoo compare BF4 and COD PS4 numbers to the pitiful WiiU numbers. Oh because you're a desperate sheep struggling to stay relevant in SW and doing so would embarrass you lol.

So much for all that talk about MP being the best part by butthurt ppl after it flopped.

Because of Nintendo's absolute, thorough incompetence, I cannot get it for a bit.

Which is maddening as ****.

It's taken me 4 months to get around to finally finishing it... it starts out really slow but I've began enjoying it since I picked it back up.

@Cranler: we would put ZombiU up since that would make much more sense (exclusive vs exclusive) but Ubisoft opt out in giving that game online Multiplayer. (Which is a shame because ZombiU's multiplayer is awesome!) and this isn't a thread about sales, its about the depressing state of Killzone's multiplayer

@Shewgenja: main point Blops 2 on WiiU is being the show boy is because when that game showed up for the console many of you (GAF included) were showing off the absymal numbers at launch and laughing about it. When it was reported that Shadowfall became the best selling Killzone ever, Cows cheered. This is to show case a WEAKER INFERIOR VERSION of Call of Duty BLOPs 2 is getting WAY MORE ATTENTION than the HIGHEST SELLING KILLZONE OF ALL TIME on the FASTEST SELLING GAME SYSTEM OF ALL TIME. Thats saying a lot and its sad.

I've had more fun with Outlast, Assassin's Creed 4, Fez, Child of Light, Wolfenstein, and Transistor. I haven't got to Infamous yet, but yeah it's pretty bleak for exclusives titles lol

Woah this thread has been active!:-P

At the end of the day, why do you care TC? I assume you own a Wii U so why don't you go play it and let the developers worry about those online numbers.

As a gamer, as long as i can quickly find a game, I could care less about the number.

Yes!They need to do that because they pretty much destroyed any chance of killzone being a successful online shooter franchise in the future with past killzone games. The franchise has always been known as a mediocre franchise and the reputation of the franchise has been hurt even further by the last two killzone game. I hope guerrilla uses there creative talent to create a game(or franchise) that appeals to more people.If guerrilla ever does create another killzone game they need to look at went wrong with the past two killzone games and try to create a game that still has it's own identity, but it appeals to more people without being mediocre.

its call of duty.Its super popular why are shocked by this?

Next KZ game skip MP and just make a good SP campaign :P

I own both a PS4 and a Wii U, actually :)

250 k...what a shltty console the wii ewww is. Yuck.

Sony and Guerrilla should stop making FPS games seriously.

Killzone's mp popularity isn't depressing and it's totally expected. The game came out same time as the two biggest mp games of the year. The game sold incredibly well when you consider that.

Also that pic compares Blop 2's total online numbers which includes bot play and people simply idling in the lobby, editing loadouts, changing settings etc.

The KZ pic shows people who are actually playing the game.

For shits and giggles I just loaded up Blops 2 on pc and there's 1332 people online, 850 people actually playing an online match with 351 in core tdm and 140 people playing hardcore tdm.

They are both pathetic, having 1,500 players online for black ops 2 is nothing to brag about,

Problem is even if they did manage to make a really good mp it would still probably have a small player count. As an example: Gears of War mp is quite good yet each entry in the series only had high player counts during the first few weeks.

Oh...I don't know lets see my ps4 games list....

Watch Dogs

Wolfenstien

Daylight

Child of Light

Transistor

Thief

Outlast

Strike Suit Zero

Battlefield 4

Mercanary Kings

Contrast

Resogun

Sound Shapes

Fez

Zen Pinball 2

Pinball Arcade

Assassins Creed 4

Lego Marvel

Infamous Second son

Don't Starve

Resogun

War thunder

DCUO

Warframe

Super Motherload

And i traded in Killzone shadowfall to get watch dogs.... only becuase the game was not a real killzone. the Killzone on the vita is a better killzone game.. that game had the same dark weighty feel as KZ2 and 3, KZ:Sf felt like Crysis on all the bad levels. If I wanted crysis I would play that.

All my list here is a mix of AAA and indies ... why did you leave out all these games... they don't exist to you? I wouldn't be playing them anywhere else unless on vita (oh but wait I can and have played most on vita - remote play rocks!!!!)

What do you expect from the sheep king who doesn't play games because he is to busy posting on syswars with his super high post count. My god he is top of the list. How do people manage to do that and have a life? Also the killzone games were also enjoyed by people for single player only, by people like me. I only dabled in mp, as battlefield is my mp game of choice. Not to mention the game was not really a killzone game. If you want a real one, play mercanry on the vita. That game rocks!

@charizard1605:

Unfortunately this happens with all the Killzone games.

Great numbers shortly after release, but once the hype dies down, so do the people actually playing the game online.

@ps4hasnogames: very true.

@Cranler: I wasn't aware of Call of Duty online containing bots.

@Midnightshade29: your list means nothing because you can say the same for WiiU.

Wiiu doesn't have 100k people playing CoD and BF like the PS 4 does.

It's the custom game mode. The original Black Ops and Ghosts has bot modes also.

To further illustrate how meaningless that Blops 2 online number is: 360 version currently shows 41,000 players online but only 22,000 are actually playing and the current core tdm count is 6,500 players.

Like I have said many times Guerrilla Games never made a decent game in their life. They made crap from Shellshock to Crapzone: Shadow Fail. Worst investment by Sony.

Hardcore gaming community knows that the Killzone series is lacklustre at best, however stupid casual Sony fanboys worldwide are still under the superficial spell of this brand.

Apparently not, hence the numbers in this thread...

That was kinda my point, not worth waste money/resourses on mp. I rather see devs not mix SP/MP and just focus on one of them to make the game better.

Ha. Good point, but it's funny how Sony fanboys were flocking to Killzone Shadow Fall before it was released, hyping it to be their Holy Grail. Power of Sony exclusives, I guess. They generate a lot of interest even if they end up being disappointing and then they are quickly forgotten but the brand always attracts.

Gears mp was worth it since it was fun and unique. Half Life 2 and Uncharted 2 are widely considered the best sp shooters of all time and both had mp.

l o l at the people in this thread making personal attacks because they're butthurt over toys wars. About the most pathetic thing I've ever seen...

Yeah but MP in Halflife and Uncharted was not "good", Gears was just an exception from the rule.

Half Life 2 came with Counterstrike Source which happens to be one of the most popular pc mp shooters of all time. HL 2 dm was a free download a few weeks after release and was quite good as well.

Gamespots synopsis of Uncharted 2 :

With an exhilarating campaign, intense cooperative mode, and addictive multiplayer competition, Uncharted 2 is a complete game that is completely awesome.

Counter Strike is a mod, the developer of HL didnt make it.

Counter strike is a mod, Counter Strike Source is not.

Shadow Fall has servers in the US UK Turkey Singapore. And those are just the ones I know of. Each region plays on their own to prevent lag.

Unfortunately it splits the player base and makes it seem like nothing

Stop spreading lies.

@charizard1605 said:

So, just a couple of reminders here:

• PS4 has sold more than Wii U
• Killzone Shadow Fall sold way more than Black Ops 2 on Wii U (2.1 million for Killzone versus less than 250,000 for Black Ops II on Wii U)
• Black Ops 2 is a two year old game versus seven months for Killzone Shadow Fall
• Killzone: Shadow Fall was just clowned. 'Active online community' my ass.

NeoGAF

Just a couple of reminders.

Killzone has never everrrrr been big online or have a big community.

Sales of the game matter little when people don't care for its online part.

COD games are played for years,in fact look on xbox live activity and you will see several of them.

Killzone has never been big online.

Your desperate..hahahaa